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zanderaruba
03-22-2007, 07:48 PM
not sure if this would go in stick doctor's forum or this one but..... anyway
are "factory strung" sticks done by machine or by a real person?
dillz18
03-22-2007, 07:51 PM
I don't know. I want to say machine, because how would they get that amount of sticks out in that amount of time. But I want to say human, because how would a machine get all of the knots.
Falconsmikevick
03-22-2007, 07:51 PM
not sure if this would go in stick doctor's forum or this one but..... anyway
are "factory strung" sticks done by machine or by a real person?
Haha, i got a good laugh outta this. Don't take my word for it, but i'm pretty positive people do it. I can't really picture a machine stringing a stick, way too complicated.
KUjayhawks42
03-22-2007, 07:57 PM
People do it. How can you set up a machine to know every type of head and every positioning of every stringing hole? They just hire a bunch of people to string as many sticks they can in as little time as possible, which is why sticks that are factory strung are not as good as if you get someone to take their time and do it.
spike191
03-22-2007, 08:18 PM
I bet those people don't even play lax, I can just see hundereds of workers in sweatshops strings sticks as fast as they can. I find it funny how we love to string our sticks and they probably it.
stinisonfire
03-22-2007, 08:26 PM
Warrior is so rich that they actually built machines to do nothing but string massive amounts of sticks. Imagine an army of AM17's, and that's what they have.
mnlax9
03-22-2007, 08:31 PM
if people do them then they suck.
Conanmonis
03-22-2007, 08:52 PM
^^^ well if people did them, they wouldnt be able to make the perfect stick. It would take too long. I bet those peopel, if any, are so used to it that they can take ten minutes to string one head
RgLax
03-22-2007, 08:53 PM
Warrior is so rich that they actually built machines to do nothing but string massive amounts of sticks. Imagine an army of AM17's, and that's what they have.
an army of AM17'S that dont care about what the finished product looks like
D-MAN
03-22-2007, 08:55 PM
I Would have to say machine. Even a baby couldn't string that bad
the next 'one'
03-22-2007, 08:57 PM
^^^ well if people did them, they wouldnt be able to make the perfect stick. It would take too long. I bet those peopel, if any, are so used to it that they can take ten minutes to string one head
i could speed string a stick in 5:38 seconds and end up with a fairly good pocket. haha yeah i had a friend time me. i am pretty sure if these people are stringings constantly they can do it in probably under 4 minutes.
but i have always wondered this same thing.
spike191
03-22-2007, 09:13 PM
Warrior's factory stuff isn't half bad actually. they string with quality mesh, and they even double up. I bet it is the army of AM17s
bubba
03-22-2007, 10:24 PM
brine has the worst factory strung heads
Mr. Raw
03-22-2007, 10:27 PM
factory stringings are terrible.
the end.
egrlax10
03-22-2007, 10:38 PM
brine and stx tie for worst factory strung heads.
BasicTraining
03-23-2007, 12:52 AM
They are people that string the heads, they pay them by the head. Most people that string the sticks dont even play lacrosse they just do it for the money.
I don't see why anybody cares how well they're strung, it's just a factory stick. I always buy mine unstrung. The beginner sticks should have the best stringing jobs because it's the beginners that don't know how to string up a head. So yeah, we all play, why complain about how well or crappy they're strung? Jeez. It's factory. Do it yourself.
But that's for the complainers. I'm 100% positive that they could get a machine to string the heads. It's not that complex. You underestimate the power of technology. I mean, I could do a factory string job in 3 minutes, or they could just design a machine to do something that requires little precision (those are pretty big holes to stick strings through) with sensors and whatnot. I'm sure an engineer could figure it out.
WezAlmighty
03-23-2007, 03:46 AM
Its a cost thing. The cost of producing a machine capable of stringing heads would far outweigh paying some guy a couple of dollars a head.
Yes the tech exists to make a machine that could string any head, but have you seen the price tags that come with them?
Human labour is cheap.
Factory stringing sucks because its strung in the quickest and easiest way possible so he can get paid and go home.
WHEELAX2
03-23-2007, 05:29 AM
they are strung by people... a lot of my friends would get 40 or 50 heads at a time shipped to them and just start stringing...
... if you get a factory strung head.. please restring it.. I see too many kids at camps, etc.. that have poorly strung sticks, and it's discouraging to them to not be able to catch and throw... most of the time, i think the learning curve could be much less painful if they just had a decent pocket
Valaxman17
03-23-2007, 06:05 AM
warrior factory jobs arent bad but everyone elses is horrible and its done by a person
shakerlax222225
03-23-2007, 06:09 AM
i think they are definately strung by humans, a stringing machine would have be be very complex and its cost would far outweigh the coast of human labor
Meade Lacrosse
03-23-2007, 06:25 AM
brine has the worst factory strung heads
Definately. Warrior is the best IMO. They use extra hard mesh, and I like how they use 2 U's and a straight nylong. I always thought that Brine was cheap because they used one lace and one nylon. I think it has something to do with Mikey powell.
truste1
03-23-2007, 06:39 AM
they are strung by people... a lot of my friends would get 40 or 50 heads at a time shipped to them and just start stringing...
how did they get that job?
I always thought that Brine was cheap because they used one lace and one nylon. I think it has something to do with Mikey powell.
HAHHAH. Great comment. And I completley agree, Brines factory stringgins are terrible. Also, I bet that people string the heads, but I don't really have any reasoning.
zanderaruba
03-24-2007, 12:46 PM
Its a cost thing. The cost of producing a machine capable of stringing heads would far outweigh paying some guy a couple of dollars a head.
Yes the tech exists to make a machine that could string any head, but have you seen the price tags that come with them?
Human labour is cheap.
Factory stringing sucks because its strung in the quickest and easiest way possible so he can get paid and go home.
you may be right but for a large company like warrior they may be thinking to the future for the long run. they probably started that way and from tons of profits have the money to buy a machine like that. although it may be more expensive at the beginning to buy the machine... in the long run the increased speed and productivity will lead to more sticks strung in a shorter time which will lead to more profits for warrior and any other large company that does this
zanderaruba
03-24-2007, 03:53 PM
also. wheelax2 how did ur friends get the job of stringing sticks for them?
cannon_5
03-24-2007, 10:11 PM
I bet those people don't even play lax, I can just see hundereds of workers in sweatshops strings sticks as fast as they can. I find it funny how we love to string our sticks and they probably it.
yes... that is my image but.. ( and I mean NO offense to anyone) hundreds of chinese people of all ages shapes and sizes stringing sticks in a big factory
ByrdDpole
03-25-2007, 02:06 AM
Gait is definitley the worst factory stringing...I took all the shooting strings off a head I have and it still has the worst pocket ever.
Warrior is the best. I use the warrior stringing on my nemesis and it catches like a magical baseball glove. No rebound, once the ball hits my head its stuck like glue until I throw it.
Its a cost thing. The cost of producing a machine capable of stringing heads would far outweigh paying some guy a couple of dollars a head.
Yes the tech exists to make a machine that could string any head, but have you seen the price tags that come with them?
Human labour is cheap.
I never said it didn't cost a thing, I just said it could be done. And considering the rate of growth in our industry, there will be machines. It's an investment. They don't have tons of people standing in line building Model Ts anymore for a reason. What's more complex, stringing a lacrosse head, or building a car? Pretty sure it can be done, and at a cost that isn't nearly as bad as we think. Contract out some engineers, get them to design the mechanics of it, then get a company to build it. Seriously.
Wavelax4
03-27-2007, 06:28 PM
Warrior is so rich that they actually built machines to do nothing but string massive amounts of sticks. Imagine an army of AM17's, and that's what they have.
What are AM17's?
chsattack22
03-27-2007, 06:48 PM
What are AM17's?
hahahaha...that made me laugh :agree:
AM17 is Attackman 17's nickname.
Achilles
03-27-2007, 07:51 PM
man, I love my factory strung K18. No need to restring it. Throws consistent. I tightend the sidewalls but other than that it's good.
skskHeeB
03-27-2007, 08:01 PM
:/ i am ordering a torque/db803 but i dont know how to string nor do i know anyone who can string so am i pretty much outta luck?
the wister
03-27-2007, 11:39 PM
you may be right but for a large company like warrior they may be thinking to the future for the long run. they probably started that way and from tons of profits have the money to buy a machine like that. although it may be more expensive at the beginning to buy the machine... in the long run the increased speed and productivity will lead to more sticks strung in a shorter time which will lead to more profits for warrior and any other large company that does this
Just because you make more heads doesn't mean more people will buy them. Sure you can manufacture all the sticks you want, but you can't manufacture demand.
I never said it didn't cost a thing, I just said it could be done. And considering the rate of growth in our industry, there will be machines. It's an investment. They don't have tons of people standing in line building Model Ts anymore for a reason. What's more complex, stringing a lacrosse head, or building a car? Pretty sure it can be done, and at a cost that isn't nearly as bad as we think. Contract out some engineers, get them to design the mechanics of it, then get a company to build it. Seriously.
You don't need to take offense, he was just pointing out the obvious, they will never have machines stringing sticks, it's such a menial and pointless procedure to industrialize. That would be like inventing a machine to give manicures. Cars are made by machines because there is a much higher demand for them, and because machines can do it much faster. Also, because the reason you listed, cars are more complex. A machine can be programmed, people have to be trained, and even then they are not consistent, nor nearly as precise. A machine would not save a considerable amount of time stringing a stick, it would be faster, but not by much, and you would still need a person to operate it. Besides, there are plenty of cars today still built by hand. And the cost is a lot more than you think, I don't even want to begin to think about the requirements to hold a stretched piece of mesh in place while manipulating a head and sewing at the same time, in fact, the more I think about it, the more I think it is actually nearly impossible.
Dodge UranusOff
03-28-2007, 05:53 AM
:/ i am ordering a torque/db803 but i dont know how to string nor do i know anyone who can string so am i pretty much outta luck?
Where you live? try looking for people who live near you. If you live near Orange, crap your in alotta luck. But if you live in maryland, you can look in the resident's phone book and look for a guy named (l'm not sure this is his real name) Bear.
DutchyLacrosse
03-28-2007, 06:33 AM
:/ i am ordering a torque/db803 but i dont know how to string nor do i know anyone who can string so am i pretty much outta luck?
http://www.kudda.com/clinic/How_to_string_a_lacrosse_stick
Watch all these videos when you are stringing, my stringing almost came out perfect by doing that.
WHEELAX2
03-29-2007, 05:22 AM
how did they get that job?
just by having friends in the business
Dub C lacrosse
03-29-2007, 12:04 PM
http://www.kudda.com/clinic/How_to_string_a_lacrosse_stick
Watch all these videos when you are stringing, my stringing almost came out perfect by doing that.
Dude thanks that actually helped me.
Wavelax4
04-01-2007, 07:36 PM
hahahaha...that made me laugh :agree:
AM17 is Attackman 17's nickname.
Is he like sick at stringing
sammyduelist
04-01-2007, 07:43 PM
Is he like sick at stringing
Naw he is terrible. But he tries. :loser:
Jk. Yeah...he's pretty good :grin:
QBYattackmen15
04-01-2007, 08:06 PM
http://www.kudda.com/clinic/How_to_string_a_lacrosse_stick
Watch all these videos when you are stringing, my stringing almost came out perfect by doing that.
this site is perfect! tells you everything with a video.
laxmasta8804123
04-02-2007, 07:14 PM
I dont really care because i string all my sticks anyway. i just get em unstrung
JAMeSpP_0H_YEsS
04-03-2007, 12:08 AM
warrior factory strung heads arent that bad ..as a matter a fact i used a revo pro factory strung as my main short stick and it passed great and i had a killer shot with it...and i didnt use it casue i dont know how to string sticks ...