College Lacrosse

[BossDj]

How many of you guys on here play in college? and if you do, do you have any tips on getting recruitec?

[sumSum]

There are a lot of recruiting guidelines, etc. that one should follow. I dont know if men's rules are the same so I wont delve into the complications. What year are you, what posistion, where are you from, etc? There are so many things to say but it would be best if you talked with your high school coach about it because they'll be able to tell you everything.

I just send out 12 letters to my top choices two hours ago. I should start hearing back (cross your fingers) in September. After that, I'll send out more letters to more schools that I'm not as intrested in.

I'm glad I got the hard part over. Although now all I can do is sit and wait, which is pretty darn nerverecking too.

[BossDj]

Im going into my junior year and i play midfield. I got to Garnet Valley in PA. Its not a major lacrosse school but we had a good team last year and have some kids getting recruited but mostyl for division 3

[WingsFan]

Originally posted by BossDj
Im going into my junior year and i play midfield. I got to Garnet Valley in PA. Its not a major lacrosse school but we had a good team last year and have some kids getting recruited but mostyl for division 3

garnet valley? we might see each other during the season, I go to Coatesville.

[sumSum]

Okay, all this is advice will be based on what I know and I only know women's but hopefully it is the same.

Since your a junior you should make a list of all the schools you think even remotely intrest you. Then, go online, do a little research on each, see if they have majors that intrest you, if you like their location, their girl/boy ratio, etc. Then you should be able to knock off a bunch based on all of that info you find. After that, make up a resume and send it off to each coach asking for more info on their program and school, etc.

After that, they should all send you info and a questionare. Fill it out as soon as possible and send it back. Then your "in the system." You should hear more if you like them. Its even appropriate, I've been told, to send the coach an email a little after you send the questionare asking if your the right fit for the program. You dont want to waste time on a school that doesnt want you.

After that, it all goes from there depending on if the coaches like what they see. Remember, you could always try out as a walk on.

[midman17]

Originally posted by BossDj
Im going into my junior year and i play midfield. I got to Garnet Valley in PA. Its not a major lacrosse school but we had a good team last year and have some kids getting recruited but mostyl for division 3

you guys were amazing in 2003 this year you guys did ok we played you guys I am from conestoga also did you guys beat malvern prep this year because they did horrible also you shouldnt worry about this stuff till a little further into junior year.

[sumSum]

Actually thats not true. At least for girls, coaches can start contacting you on September 1st of your junior year in the form of letters and info on the school, etc. The earlier start you get in you junior year. You'll have more time to look at colleges and decide what you want. You can go on junior days, etc. and not be worried about grades and doing all your resumes, etc. during the school year.

[midman17]

in mens lacrosse coaches cant start contacting you until the summer after junior year I think.

[DukeLax2]

im pretty sure u can contact ppl b4 the summer of the jr year
also camps ive gone to coaches say that they hate those liek websites that say get urself rectruited n ****, they dont look at those usually, coahces like it when i player emails them very eartly and says im interested in ur program and all that kinda crap

[spenny]

Originally posted by sumSum
Actually thats not true. At least for girls, coaches can start contacting you on September 1st of your junior year in the form of letters and info on the school, etc.

i think the way it works is that if you contact the coach they can write or email back. i dont think they can talk on the phone with you untill the july before your Sr season.

i dont believe they can contact you before that date unless you have contacted them first

and i have no idea what the rules are (if they are different) for div 3

[sumSum]

I've heard Div. 3's rules are crazy different. I've even heard it said "Division 3 has no rules." Especially compared to D1.

I think I said that they cant phone until the summer before your senior year but if not others did.

I've also been told recruiting services, and professional videos, are a waste of money. That some coaches will just throw the letters away.

You can contact a coach whenever you want, you could do it in middle school! But I dont reccomend it because the coach will be unable to say anything until Sept 1st of your Junior year.

[BossDj]

Can Division III give out scholarships?

[BTlaxripper]

^^uh.... I think so, who not? Is there a rule or something against it?

[DukeLax2]

i dont think ucant get 1 in d 3, liek in d1 a school is allowed to give i think like 12(spread thru every sport not jus lax) full schlorships or sumin n then less for d2

[spenny]

D3 does not offer scholarships, they also limit off season participation.

D2 offers scholarships, but i dont know about playing rules. the quality of play seems to be about that of the top D3 schools (D2 lax didnt exist when i was in college, so i dont know much about it.)

D1 lax has scholarships, it has coach directed workouts/practices/games year round.
for lax the max number of scholarships a school can offer is 12.6
many schools do not even offer than many. (delaware) many D1 schools dont offer any. (all the ivys, hobart).

fwiw: few lax players are on full rides, most are only getting partial scholarships

[WingsFan]

unless your name is Powell, lol.

[sumSum]

In women's lacrosse I've been told the total amount a fully-funded program has for scholarships is 12. This means that they have 12 full scholarships to either give out as is or to break up between their team. Usually the amounts are broken up to allow more players an athletic scholarship.

DukeLax2, the 12 scholarships (or 12.6 in mens) is not for the whole athletic program. That would be crazy. It is for each team. Men's football and basketball are very different, for example, though. They have a crazy amount of scholarships. The bring in the money for the other sports in terms of attendance though so I'm not complaning.

[spenny]

football is a huge problem for the growth of lax.
95 full scholarships for a fully funded FB team. typically only 60 kids make the travel squad. which means that there are kids getting full rides that dont even dress for away games...

[XKoskinenXdrmzX]

wouldn't it differ from school to school depending on the regular tuition for the school, though? Becuase it's harder to give away full rides to a school where the regular tuition is $40,000 compared to a school where the tuition is like $15,000? Am I right or am I totally our of it lol?

[spenny]

wouldn't it differ from school to school depending on the regular tuition for the school, though? Becuase it's harder to give away full rides to a school where the regular tuition is $40,000 compared to a school where the tuition is like $15,000? Am I right or am I totally our of it lol?

no. the cost of tuition makes no difference in how many scholarships a school gives out. as said elsewhere, there are a max of 12.6 allowed for mens lax. (the number is similar for WLax, but i dont know what it is exactly)

some schools dont give any (the ivys, hobart) i also believe that some conferences cap the number of scholarships that can be given out

some schools dont offer the max for many other reasons, including title IX compliance issues or simply the athletic dept chooses to spend that money elsewhere

[raykessler]

no one should plan on getting a full ride in lacrosse, think about it this way Kyle Harrison was on 3/4 of a full scholorship, the thing is lots of scholorships are filled in with academic scholorships. lots of D3 schools can offer people money with academic scholorships.

[XKoskinenXdrmzX]

ohhh...ok so wait...lets say you get 1/2 an athletic scolarship...so now they can fill it in with an academic scolarship if your a fairely good student?

[lilaxgurl23]

ohhh...ok so wait...lets say you get 1/2 an athletic scolarship...so now they can fill it in with an academic scolarship if your a fairely good student?

Yes. I think there is a point though where if you don't meet certain academic criteria, it will count against the program even if it is merit based. Pretty sure it's a 1200 SAT score, 3.5 GPA or top 10% of graduating class.

EDIT- Check out the NCAA Bylaw 15, a lot of the scholarship stuff is explained in there. What I was talking about was in 15.5.3.2.1.1.

[berger1227]

sorry for the off topic question but what is title IX?

and dukelax, i'd appreciate if you took some effort in your post and typed clearly

[rhicks10]

i play at the Univ. South Carolina.... Im a sophmore attackman this year, our team is actually considered club and is pretty much walk on unless we go over 50 (i think)
the best advice is to just play and practice as much you can and if you do get your shot in front of some college coaches is to not try and do everything on your own... good luck

[The Doors]

i play at the Univ. South Carolina.... Im a sophmore attackman this year, our team is actually considered club and is pretty much walk on unless we go over 50 (i think)
the best advice is to just play and practice as much you can and if you do get your shot in front of some college coaches is to not try and do everything on your own... good luck

this thread is like 2.5 years old, im pretty sure hes made his decision and what not

[Marty Dawg]

i dont think ucant get 1 in d 3, liek in d1 a school is allowed to give i think like 12(spread thru every sport not jus lax) full schlorships or sumin n then less for d2

That is completely untrue! D1 A football teams ( ohio state) get 43 scholarships a year. The way they distribute those is completely up to them. Almost, everybody that gets recruted to a D1 A football team is getting a good scholarship.

Now, lacrosse is completely different. I've heard that D1 A lacrosse teams (Virginia) get only 7 scholarships. And, only usually one maybe two has the full ride so they can split up the scholarships to the other teammates.

[lilaxgurl23]

That is completely untrue! D1 A football teams ( ohio state) get 43 scholarships a year. The way they distribute those is completely up to them. Almost, everybody that gets recruted to a D1 A football team is getting a good scholarship.

Now, lacrosse is completely different. I've heard that D1 A lacrosse teams (Virginia) get only 7 scholarships. And, only usually one maybe two has the full ride so they can split up the scholarships to the other teammates.

Where did you pull those numbers from?

15.5.5.1 Division I-A Football I-A

There shall be an annual limit of 25 on the number of initial counters (per Bylaw 15.02.3.1) and an annual limit of 85 on the total number of counters (including initial counters) in football at each Division I-A institution. (Revised: 1/10/91 effective 8/1/92)

Pretty much all that's saying is that D I-A football teams get a total of 85 scholarships to hand out. They are only allowed to hand out 25 initial counters, or scholarships to first time recipiants, per year.

Also, I'm pretty sure football only hands out full scholarships. So everyone who has been recruited for football (and accepts) is getting a good scholarship, not almost everyone.

Now lacrosse is different, you are right about that. Men's lacrosse is allowed a maximum 12.6 scholarships and women's lacrosse is allowed a maximum of 12 scholarships. These are not like football, so they can be split up however the coach feels like. Some coaches don't even believe in full scholarships and rosters are starting to get huge, so it's rare to come accross a player who is on a full ride.

[LymanLax28]

i think the way it works is that if you contact the coach they can write or email back. i dont think they can talk on the phone with you untill the july before your Sr season.

i dont believe they can contact you before that date unless you have contacted them first

and i have no idea what the rules are (if they are different) for div 3
I know that for DI, coaches can send you e-mails/letters starting in Sept. of your Junior year. I'm not sure if they can call you, but if they give you their phone number, you CAN call them, and they can answer. I'm pretty sure DII can send letters/e-mails at the same time, but I have no experience with the phone aspect of recruiting for DII. I'm not sure about DIII, all I know is that they have totally different guidelines.

[berger1227]

i dont know about you but if i got recruited to play at hopkins and didnt get a scholarship and had no money id sell my HOUSE to go

more closely related to the topic- why are there so few to lacrosee? i would assume football and basketball make more money and are more well known but it doesnt cost the schools much at all to teach one or two more

[Eclipse]

i dont know about you but if i got recruited to play at hopkins and didnt get a scholarship and had no money id sell my HOUSE to go

more closely related to the topic- why are there so few to lacrosee? i would assume football and basketball make more money and are more well known but it doesnt cost the schools much at all to teach one or two more

Schools can allocate so many scholarships to major college sports like football and basketball because those sports make the school alot of money. When Lacrosse games start packing 80,000 seat stadiums, then maybe we will get 95 scholarships too. Until then, lacrosse simply does not bring the school enough revenue for them to give out more.

I beleive right now Division 1 schools offer 12.5 scholarships per Lacrosse Team or $250,000, Whichever comes first.

[lilaxgurl23]

Schools can allocate so many scholarships to major college sports like football and basketball because those sports make the school alot of money. When Lacrosse games start packing 80,000 seat stadiums, then maybe we will get 95 scholarships too. Until then, lacrosse simply does not bring the school enough revenue for them to give out more.

I beleive right now Division 1 schools offer 12.5 scholarships per Lacrosse Team or $250,000, Whichever comes first.

It's actually 12.6 (for men's, 12 for women) as I posted earlier. There is no monetary limit though.

Also, the numbers for scholarships really don't have all of that much to do with the income. Most schools lose money on football and basketball programs. Basketball only gets 15 scholarships so it's really based off of the number of players that play. I know there aren't that many people on a basketball team, but lacrosse will never get 95 scholarships, its unrealistic with the number of athletes on a team (I know you might have been exagerating, but to my point, the scholarship limits aren't going to increase all that much, even if there was a huge income that a school recieved).

[DukeLax2]

ya i was lunchin i dunno what i meant, my bad

[HoosLax1]

i actually know a guy who is in high school right now in Charlottesville Va. ( UVA territory ) and Dom himself has met with the kid on many many occasions, starting at the very beginning of his junior year. so with rules put aside, if the coach wants a commitment early, and especially if its close to home, that coach will do anything in his power to recruit the player.

[Eclipse]

It's actually 12.6 (for men's, 12 for women) as I posted earlier. There is no monetary limit though.

Also, the numbers for scholarships really don't have all of that much to do with the income. Most schools lose money on football and basketball programs. Basketball only gets 15 scholarships so it's really based off of the number of players that play. I know there aren't that many people on a basketball team, but lacrosse will never get 95 scholarships, its unrealistic with the number of athletes on a team (I know you might have been exagerating, but to my point, the scholarship limits aren't going to increase all that much, even if there was a huge income that a school recieved).


Oh yes very big exageration. If we were allocated 95 scholarships we could bring a friend to school with us on scholarship too.

Your argument can realisticly go hand in hand with mine. The final statement being that..although basketball teams have half the players..they offer more scholarships then for lacrosse. Lacrosse isnt as high demand and cannot bring the school enough revenue. Unlike Basketball which is very popular at the college level.

[stinisonfire]

How many of you guys on here play in college? and if you do, do you have any tips on getting recruitec?

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