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checklax
04-09-2007, 10:32 AM
Well, you always hear the benefits of a lighter stick: quicker checks, can pull the stick back quicker, easier ball handling.

But the only benefits you hear of a (heavier) wooden stick are the benefits when training with it.

How does it help out in an actual game situatuion?

Spartan
04-09-2007, 10:37 AM
pain=good!!

UVAlaxer432
04-09-2007, 10:39 AM
The heavier the stick the more it will hurt someone if you chck them with it.

checklax
04-09-2007, 10:47 AM
yeah, what can you accomplish other than pain?

wwhlax00
04-09-2007, 10:51 AM
you can break more attackmans sticks. :naughty:

dta06
04-09-2007, 11:14 AM
yeah, what can you accomplish other than pain?
Nothing. Defensmen that use heavy sticks are just hurting themselves. The game of lacrosse is a matter of seconds. With a lighter stick you can throw faster and stronger checks. Then if you use a heavy stick, what good would it do if you hurt a attackmen, but he still has the ball? Defensmen that think heavy sticks are better for D are sadly mistaken

atxlax07
04-09-2007, 11:16 AM
I guess it can hurt worse, you may be more defensively sound with holding your ground.

Longpole5435
04-09-2007, 12:01 PM
Nothing. Defensmen that use heavy sticks are just hurting themselves. The game of lacrosse is a matter of seconds. With a lighter stick you can throw faster and stronger checks. Then if you use a heavy stick, what good would it do if you hurt a attackmen, but he still has the ball? Defensmen that think heavy sticks are better for D are sadly mistaken
CAN I GET AN AAAAAAAAAAAMEN?

sailorslax88
04-09-2007, 12:13 PM
it hurts a lot more when i get hit. we have a guy on our team who benches around 350, so the old brine Aluminum is nothing for him to swing around.. im telling you it hurts

jasonkim
04-09-2007, 02:34 PM
Because your poke checks are harder, etc... There are pros and cons to both. If you are strong enough to wield a woody around like a krypto pro, then why not use a woody? It is intimidating, pain inflicting, etc..

GatorPole
04-09-2007, 02:42 PM
I met a kid once who filled his d shaft with concrete. It would break your arm. Anyone know if that's legal?

DutchyLacrosse
04-09-2007, 03:15 PM
I met a kid once who filled his d shaft with concrete. It would break your arm. Anyone know if that's legal?

It's illegal to fill your shafts with anything, it's called altering your equipment.
And i'm pretty sure you can't wield the pole fast enough to hit somebody.

dta06
04-09-2007, 05:15 PM
Because your poke checks are harder, etc... There are pros and cons to both. If you are strong enough to wield a woody around like a krypto pro, then why not use a woody? It is intimidating, pain inflicting, etc..
No matter how strong any you are, you will always perform better with a lighter stick. I am able to bench more then my wieght and squat double my wieght. I am very capable of using a woody, ti, etc; But I choose not to because I'd rather not settle with fast when I can be faster, ti's are far more expensive then light shafts. Its ok to practice with a heavy pole, but when you get beat one day in a game and and miss your final check by a second, you'll wish you had a lighter shaft. Like I said before the game of lacrosse is a game of seconds.

lax39er
04-09-2007, 07:23 PM
More mass the more force you can put out. Also it really do not slow me down.

Crimdad
04-09-2007, 07:30 PM
Everyone who is saying heavier is better is mistaken, like said before many times, you can throw quicker checks, handle better, feel the ball better, and recover from a check faster.

What would you rather have 1 hard check that takes some time to wind up and pretty hard to place, or 2-3 quick checks that are easier too place?

"lacrosse is a game of seconds"- dta06 couldm't have been said better and very true

THALAX
04-09-2007, 08:35 PM
Some of you guys are over exaggerating this a little. We are not swinging around a lead weight, and you are not going to have to "wind up" or whatever you say to throw a check. A 2lb stick shouldn't be severely detrimental to your game opposed to a 1/2lb one.

jasonkim
04-09-2007, 08:52 PM
I never understood concrete being a good filler. No matter how much you filled, it would always expand, and probably have a good chance of breaking/weakening the outer metal shell. And if you did leave room for it to expand parallel (like with the length of the pole) to the pole, it would be imbalanced unless you had the absolute perfect amount.

st.joslax10
04-09-2007, 09:11 PM
easy strips :thumbsup:

fenderDman23
04-09-2007, 09:11 PM
personnally i love using a wooden pole not so much for inflicting pain as for an intimidation factor...
and i do agree that lacrosse is about speed which is why i always keep a super light metal pole on the sidelines incase i find a need to switch but to this point i have seen no need for because as soon as you adjust to the pole it seems like any other stick....

THALAX
04-09-2007, 09:40 PM
personnally i love using a wooden pole not so much for inflicting pain as for an intimidation factor...
and i do agree that lacrosse is about speed which is why i always keep a super light metal pole on the sidelines incase i find a need to switch but to this point i have seen no need for because as soon as you adjust to the pole it seems like any other stick....
I do the exact same thing. Wooden sticks definitely has an intimidation factor. Every single attackman I've guarded has always given me the same exact question: "Is that thing legal?" thinking it is some kind of weapon, and I can tell they are hesitant to play me 1on1.

I also agree on the part where you hardly even notice the extra weight when that adrenaline starts pumping.

Conanmonis
04-09-2007, 09:46 PM
yes, i use a ti with an x2. itsa heavy combo, i kinda wished i didnt dish out that much money for a heavy shaft. BUT, i still love it and now too used to it. I can't catch or throw better with say my friends db 803 and his motive.

FlucoDpole
04-10-2007, 01:56 PM
I never understood concrete being a good filler.
It seems somewhat permanent.
I filled mine with sand when I was in HS. It worked well as a training tool, so long as the butt was secure and the stick was completely full in order to prevent a shifting center of gravity. It also had the virtue of being temporary; pop the cap,pour out the sand,and you're legal for the game.
I think it added speed to my checks,and taught me not to overcommit with my stick.

crazzyD
04-10-2007, 02:36 PM
just get stronger so the added weight doesnt affect you, while you still get the satisfaction of busting up an attackmen. win win

WIlax
04-12-2007, 04:46 PM
Theres really no benifit unless you just use it to train..like during the summer I use a super heavy aluminum pole when im training with a bionic on the end..a heavy combo..but when the season comes i go back to my klyte razer combo..and it feels like theres nothing in my hands..

ftDpole35
04-12-2007, 04:54 PM
It seems somewhat permanent.
I filled mine with sand when I was in HS. It worked well as a training tool, so long as the butt was secure and the stick was completely full in order to prevent a shifting center of gravity. It also had the virtue of being temporary; pop the cap,pour out the sand,and you're legal for the game.
I think it added speed to my checks,and taught me not to overcommit with my stick.

I really like that Idea, to learn not to over-commit with checks. It doesnt make the shaft so heavy that you cant lift it when your tired (ahem. concrete) but give you less time to recover after throwing a heavy check. regular sand all the way to the brim. I guess that Ill have to be using a legal but end then :nofear:

fallingupstairs
04-12-2007, 05:08 PM
i think the only good thing is the intimidation factor.
u cant aim checks as well, and they arent as fast.
i love it when d men try to do big huge wind up take away checks
one quik face dodge and that things going in top corner at around 108 mph (i wish)
im a midi and i use my wooden shaft all summer.
when i get abck into the season with a levitation it feels like nothing