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CoachFauss
05-16-2007, 12:51 AM
Here's the playoff picture:
1. Rockhurst
2. MICDS
3. CBC
4. Lafayette
5. Kirkwood
6. Desmet
7. Parkway South
8. Parkway Central
9. Pembroke Hill
10. SLUH
11. Parkway West
12. Aquinas
Kirkwood beat Aquinas and will play at Lafayette on Friday at 6 pm
Pembroke Hill plays at Parkway Central on Wednesday at 5 pm with the winner playing at Rockhurst on Saturday at 1 or 2 pm
The winners of those games will meet in the semifinals next Wednesday at 6 pm. The semifinals are at Wash U.
If SLUH won over Parkway South (I haven't seen anything except here) then they will play at MICDS. Date and time TBD.
Desmet and Parkway West are going to play (date and time TBD) with the winner of that game playing at CBC on Friday at 7 pm.
The winners of those games will meet in the semifinals next Wednesday at 8 pm.
The state championship will be Saturday, May 26th at 1 pm. This game will also be at Wash U.
kwlacrosse11
05-16-2007, 09:40 AM
for the 8 middies that made all state i know five, jehling, smith, looby, koeneman, hopfer, and who are the other three??
kwlacrosse11
05-16-2007, 09:41 AM
and who else made all state goalie besides lauber?
roadlax
05-16-2007, 09:49 AM
what is the whole list of all state and all conference?
drnkndakoolaid
05-16-2007, 09:55 AM
Is that playoff schedule right? I heard that pembrook is plying rock on today.
roadlax
05-16-2007, 10:18 AM
there is no way Pembroke is playing Rockhurst...part of he responsibility of success is going where you need to to play ESPECIALLY in the playoffs. I'm sure they're traveling to St. Louis to do what is right and play over here.
pshlax18
05-16-2007, 11:59 AM
i know self got all state
TURNUVA
05-16-2007, 01:33 PM
MICDS is playing SLUH I think.
laxmaster008
05-16-2007, 03:21 PM
If you go here and click the playoff link they have the bracket up http://molax.org/MSLA/index.htm
desmetlax33
05-16-2007, 03:40 PM
there is no way Pembroke is playing Rockhurst...part of he responsibility of success is going where you need to to play ESPECIALLY in the playoffs. I'm sure they're traveling to St. Louis to do what is right and play over here.
Pembroke is playing rockhurst. Pembroke didnt want to take the 4 hour drive to St. Louis to play us. In turn we switched places with Rockhurst and now we have a bye and are playing cbc on fri @ cbc
STLGURU
05-16-2007, 04:25 PM
i wonder how coaches are going to handle the goalie all-state all-american situation.
mark prey has been solid for a few years now, but Jack Burkhardt, in his first year as a goalie, has a ridiculous number of saves and a crazy save percentage this year. Plus i've seen him play in 2 games and he is totally legit.
my guess is they'll probably give the all-american nod to Mark Prey and 1st team all-state, and burkhardt will get 2nd team all-state, even though he deserves 1st team all-state and possibly all-american. anyone who has seen him this year knows what i'm talking about.
CoachFauss
05-16-2007, 08:02 PM
i wonder how coaches are going to handle the goalie all-state all-american situation.
mark prey has been solid for a few years now, but Jack Burkhardt, in his first year as a goalie, has a ridiculous number of saves and a crazy save percentage this year. Plus i've seen him play in 2 games and he is totally legit.
my guess is they'll probably give the all-american nod to Mark Prey and 1st team all-state, and burkhardt will get 2nd team all-state, even though he deserves 1st team all-state and possibly all-american. anyone who has seen him this year knows what i'm talking about.
There is only one all state team this year and it included 2 goalies. I believe the rest of the breakdown is 5 attack, 8 middies, 5 defense and 1 or 2 specialists. I didn't write down the list and I don't know when it's going to be posted.
fenderstrat3578
05-16-2007, 08:13 PM
for the 8 middies that made all state i know five, jehling, smith, looby, koeneman, hopfer, and who are the other three??
who is hopfer, I have never even heard his name mentioned
the ice box
05-16-2007, 09:13 PM
cbc's goalie is pretty good too.... you have to include his name on there
fenderstrat3578
05-16-2007, 09:27 PM
so can we get a new bracket seeing as the MOLAX.org one is wrong...
Pwest lost to Pcentral, and pembroke plays rock? what is going on
CoachFauss
05-16-2007, 09:35 PM
so can we get a new bracket seeing as the MOLAX.org one is wrong...
Pwest lost to Pcentral, and STA plays rock? what is going on
Aquinas is out - they lost to Kirkwood.
I received an email earlier today with the following schedule. I guess Rockhurst gave up their first round bye and it went to DeSmet so CBC and DeSmet get each other at the quarterfinals. It's becoming tough to keep track of what's going on. :WTF:
Wed, tonight
5:30 Parkway West at Parkway Central
6:00 Pembroke at Rockhurst
Friday (winners advance to semifinals)
6:00 Kirkwood at Lafayette Senior High School
7:00 DeSmet at CBC
Saturday (winners advance to semifinals)
1:00 SLUH at MICDS
1:00 winner PKW/PWC at Rockhurst
DeSmet/CBC winner gets SLUH/MICDS winner
Kirkwood/Lafayette winnter gets Rockhurst/PKC? winner
kwlacrosse11
05-16-2007, 09:47 PM
me, i play for kirkwood....this is awkward
fenderstrat3578
05-16-2007, 10:08 PM
this is awkward...sorry, i guess i just dont pay much attention to k'woods conference overall, or the teams in it really, my bad
michaelfiggy69
05-16-2007, 10:46 PM
yeah...
Pwest lost to Pcentral sadly.
12-6.
oh well.
theres always next year when CBC doesnt have 25 seniors on their team.
QPLax11
05-16-2007, 11:50 PM
haha dang, 25 seniors. next year hickman is gonna have 35+ seniors. we didnt graduate any varsity starters this year, so we will be the same team. just so everyone has something to look forward to. ;) haha
stloulax
05-17-2007, 02:27 AM
im pretty sure 3 of the 5 all state defenders are paul rentjes, kevin pfotenhauer, andy howell, and im guessing turner holthouse from micds is a 4th. the 5th probly is a rockhurst kid
cmriocsdsse09
05-17-2007, 01:05 PM
to bad hickman isnt good with the 35+ juniors they have now...they didnt even make the playoff bracket
kwlacrosse11
05-17-2007, 03:09 PM
Luke fallstrom from kirkwood is also all state
gjjjjt
05-17-2007, 05:22 PM
haha dang, 25 seniors. next year hickman is gonna have 35+ seniors. we didnt graduate any varsity starters this year, so we will be the same team. just so everyone has something to look forward to. ;) haha
Hey QPLax11,
Where are those 35+ seniors coming from? I see barely 35+ on your entire roster. I don't doubt Hickman will be a playoff contender next season, but you better do a lot of recruiting if you want to get to 35+ seniors.
hurst022
05-17-2007, 05:29 PM
we already have that.......look at our JV roster it is all jrs who havent had the amount of time to get used to the game as the starters.
HawkletLax
05-17-2007, 06:17 PM
off topic but:
rockhurst beat pembroke 18-3 lastnight
QPLax11
05-17-2007, 06:28 PM
haha my bad. overshot by a lil. our roster has 22 seniors. but there are supposed to more joining. idk why so late...but im sure itll be more than 25.
Laxgoalie54
05-17-2007, 08:20 PM
that's funny that people want to talk about young teams cause i heard that MICDS has a freshman that got more pt than just about all the other non starting senior middies against rockhurst, they have a freshman goalie that will take burkhardt's place and he has some relationship with teddy potter idk wat so he's got that sick goalie ability in his blood, then not to mention the two goals against rock were put up by two sophmore attack, then the other sophmore attack they have that was a middie convert is fourth on the team in scoring, then all the d except three ppl is seniors and then a middie that starts right now is a sophmore. MICDS will in my opinion, over the next two years take back the thrown of the best team in MO lax from rockhurst. But Phsouth is on its way ya SOUTH!. But ya MICDS, i dont know how is always amazing but they have got some hidden treasures that will be amazing next year. I scouted their practice once and they looked really good. Also, there jv came second to cbc. The reason MICDS always has such a good team is because as freshman and sophmores, most players are playing juniors and sophmores and people called down from varsity on the jv level. There is no freshman team at MICDS, so basically if MICDS' jv runs with almost any other teams jv that means that MICDS should be dominate in the future as well. Also MICDS never brings down players to play on JV unlike most teams. Coach Hopkins is a no cutting the corners type of guy, and he shows class just like how he did by giving up the pick. Not to mention MICDS won the freshman tourny.
Laxgoalie54
05-17-2007, 08:21 PM
also, if Burkhardt gets robbed of AA or all state it is a very sad day for missouri lacrosse, that we can not recognize the few great talents we have.
LAXAF
05-17-2007, 08:32 PM
im pretty sure 3 of the 5 all state defenders are paul rentjes, kevin pfotenhauer, andy howell, and im guessing turner holthouse from micds is a 4th. the 5th probly is a rockhurst kid
I know Austin Birner from Lafayette is all State D.
stloulax
05-17-2007, 10:05 PM
i guarantee if all of these JV kids willbe playing first year on varsity and more are joining, i highly doubt you will make it anywhere close to the quarterfinals next season
yallaintgood
05-17-2007, 10:13 PM
i guarantee if all of these JV kids willbe playing first year on varsity and more are joining, i highly doubt you will make it anywhere close to the quarterfinals next season
now is that really nesaccary? who knows if they ll get better over the summer and if they dont oh well they ll suck next year.
pshwarriorlax17
05-17-2007, 10:26 PM
What are you attacking South for? When did we come into it?
TURNUVA
05-17-2007, 11:37 PM
Can SLUH beat MICDS?
They have size on them but MICDS has the goalie.
the midfield for micds doesnt seem to be working together well not sure what is happening with that but against West they just fell apart couldnt get anything in at all.
They are pretty small with pretty much all seniors holding it together.
QPLax11
05-17-2007, 11:41 PM
i guarantee if all of these JV kids willbe playing first year on varsity and more are joining, i highly doubt you will make it anywhere close to the quarterfinals next season
who is this targetted to?
CoachFauss
05-18-2007, 01:03 AM
Coach Hopkins is a no cutting the corners type of guy, and he shows class just like how he did by giving up the pick.
Coach Hopkins is leaving after this year to take a job at a school in Cleveland but I'm sure MICDS will still be strong.
TURNUVA
05-18-2007, 12:14 PM
that's funny that people want to talk about young teams cause i heard that MICDS has a freshman that got more pt than just about all the other non starting senior middies against rockhurst, they have a freshman goalie that will take burkhardt's place and he has some relationship with teddy potter idk wat so he's got that sick goalie ability in his blood, then not to mention the two goals against rock were put up by two sophmore attack, then the other sophmore attack they have that was a middie convert is fourth on the team in scoring, then all the d except three ppl is seniors and then a middie that starts right now is a sophmore. MICDS will in my opinion, over the next two years take back the thrown of the best team in MO lax from rockhurst. But Phsouth is on its way ya SOUTH!. But ya MICDS, i dont know how is always amazing but they have got some hidden treasures that will be amazing next year. I scouted their practice once and they looked really good. Also, there jv came second to cbc. The reason MICDS always has such a good team is because as freshman and sophmores, most players are playing juniors and sophmores and people called down from varsity on the jv level. There is no freshman team at MICDS, so basically if MICDS' jv runs with almost any other teams jv that means that MICDS should be dominate in the future as well. Also MICDS never brings down players to play on JV unlike most teams. Coach Hopkins is a no cutting the corners type of guy, and he shows class just like how he did by giving up the pick. Not to mention MICDS won the freshman tourny.
I think the goalie is teddy potters brother whose a freshman. The freshman getting more PT is this kid Theodoro everyone said he is or will be the best in Missouri. Has D1 potential they say. They guy above is right Hopkins is leaving and they will have a problem on D not sure how big the guys are coming up/
CoachFauss
05-18-2007, 01:40 PM
I think the goalie is teddy potters brother whose a freshman. The freshman getting more PT is this kid Theodoro everyone said he is or will be the best in Missouri. Has D1 potential they say. They guy above is right Hopkins is leaving and they will have a problem on D not sure how big the guys are coming up/
Bryce is Teddy's little brother. He'll be a sophomore next year and I expect him to be a great goalie for them (he played for us as an 8th grader). We'll also have a sophomore starting in goal next year. I'm not sure about the younger goalies at Vianney, Central or Clayton but our conference should have some great goalies for the next couple of years to carry on the tradition we've had over the last few years.
CoachFauss
05-18-2007, 04:24 PM
All State Players and other award winners are posted at http://www.molax.org/MSLA/2007%20Honors.html
Only players that make all-state are eligible for all-american and that will be announced at the end of year awards banquet.
hurst022
05-18-2007, 04:42 PM
do you know when all conference will be annouced?
Laxgoalie54
05-18-2007, 07:37 PM
no offense to pray or lauber but this was burkhardts year he was the best goalie in stlouis by far and I can't believe how the commitee can't tell that. I mean he was the reason MICDS has probably won against Kirkwood, Lafayette, and CBC. He is very dominant and he makes the biggest saves when you need them the most. my friend knows him and says he is a good guy that doesnt care about any of these awards, but nevertheless that is why he deserves it more, a guy that plays his heart out for the team and not for himself. He has the most saves, best save percentage and he plays for the second best team. Also these awards should be given to players who are on contending teams that will make it to the semifinals or beyond. I mean Kirkwood is decent but they did not beat MICDS and all Kirkwood players know that they could have won that game if it was not for the MICDS goalie. I just hope that all the coaches keep the teams in consideration, I mean it is the smart thing to do that a player wins the recognition if his team is really good. It should be team first and if they think that lauber and pray and burkhardt are close they should check the teams as well, which team is better and not to mention the 80% save percentage burkhardt has and the most saves while playing less games than most teams. MICDS only had like 12 games that they played and ten with stats. So there is like another two games worth of saves that Burkhardt has. Could someone make an argument of why he didnt get all state if not than give him all american to make up for it
Laxgoalie54
05-18-2007, 07:43 PM
and how does dejohn not get all state the d-pole for MICDS and then the long pole middie from lafayette.
CoachFauss
05-18-2007, 07:43 PM
do you know when all conference will be annouced?
I don't know if that will be posted or not. The all conference teams were selected before the all state voting.
Laxgoalie54
05-18-2007, 07:47 PM
if lauber and his team can shut down jerry than they earn respect but in my opinion lafayette will defeat Kirkwood and jerry will have atleast a hattrick.
goalie33fan
05-18-2007, 09:23 PM
lafayette over kirkwood 10-9
CoachFauss
05-18-2007, 10:35 PM
Also these awards should be given to players who are on contending teams that will make it to the semifinals or beyond.
I just hope that all the coaches keep the teams in consideration, I mean it is the smart thing to do that a player wins the recognition if his team is really good.
Could someone make an argument of why he didnt get all state if not than give him all american to make up for it
These are INDIVIDUAL awards, not team awards. Sometimes a great individual doesn't play on a great team and he deserves to be recognized. When coaches, myself included, pick the all-conference teams they tend to favor the best teams but that doesn't mean that a great player will always be on the best team. The playoffs are a chance to recognize great teams but these awards are for the individuals.
As far as making an argument for all american, it won't happen. The coaches pick the all-state team (not just a committee) but the all-americans are selected by a committee who only look at the qualifications of kids that have already been voted to the all-state team.
On another note, I want to applaud the kids from CBC and DeSmet on a great game. DeSmet showed tons of heart fighting back from that deficit and CBC showed why they are one of the top seeds by holding on at the end.
You guys played a great game and it's too bad that one team had to end their season tonight.
kojak89
05-18-2007, 10:50 PM
how did the p west faceoff guy not get all state...no one could beat him
pshlax18
05-18-2007, 11:34 PM
I guess you guys dont realize it by now-all state and all americans are all based on politics. I know no one that can argue the fact that players are not just rewarded for their skill. It's all about what your name is and if it is recognized or not. I know a defenseman that should have been all-state on my team, but did not recieve it because his name was not known. Even drew koenamenn did not make all conference last year when he should have been all state. The same goes for the defenseman from ladue last year-should have made all state but did not because our all state ballots and what not are all decided upon who is known best. So for anyone that thinks they should have made all state and did not, don't get down on yourself. The PLAYERS in the state know who are the legite kids, and give their own respect towards them in their own way.
roadlax
05-19-2007, 08:59 AM
who won CBC vs DeSmet???
CoachFauss
05-19-2007, 09:13 AM
who won CBC vs DeSmet???
CBC won 13-11 Great game
TURNUVA
05-19-2007, 10:18 AM
SLUH plays micds today and the winner plays cbc?
it should be a good game...
WestCountyLax
05-19-2007, 11:47 AM
Burkhart not getting all state is the biggest load of garbage I have seen in a while. ridiculous.
Chaminademid
05-19-2007, 01:08 PM
how did the p west faceoff guy not get all state...no one could beat him
Not only that but he creates a lot of fast breaks and doesnt just win the ball behind himself.
What position does the specialist from DeSmet play that made all state? If he's a faceoff man that's horribly rigged.
goalie33fan
05-19-2007, 04:51 PM
who won the p. central vs rock game?
goalie33fan
05-19-2007, 04:59 PM
SLUH plays micds today and the winner plays cbc?
it should be a good game...
sluh lost 16-6 i think.
CoachFauss
05-19-2007, 05:25 PM
What position does the specialist from DeSmet play that made all state? If he's a faceoff man that's horribly rigged.
How could it be "rigged"? The vote was done on Monday night by every coach in attendance. There were probably 20 coaches there, including Coach Stirling, voting on these.
It's possible that of the players on the ballot for all state (chosen by the coaches in that conference) he was the only non-senior. When it comes down to excluding one player, that's one thing a lot of coaches look at. If I remember correctly, there were only 3 kids on the ballot at specialist and 2 were chosen.
HawkletLax
05-19-2007, 06:05 PM
who won the p. central vs rock game?
rock won 10-3
TURNUVA
05-19-2007, 11:29 PM
Burkhart was robbed. Saw the game today and SLUH played real dirty.
HawkletLax
05-20-2007, 12:13 AM
what players are goin where to play lacrosse in college?
jw
TURNUVA
05-20-2007, 12:15 AM
koeneman-washington & lee
pdstirling
05-20-2007, 12:16 AM
I did unintentionally screw West face off mid Mike Grosz over. In voting for the All Conference team, I put Mike at just middie instead of at "specialist". I did nominate him for All State, but he was listed as just a middie, and not a specialist. He probably would have had a good shot at All State at specialist. I won't make the same mistake next year, if he plays as well as he did this year again.
Pete Stirling
Head Coach Parkway West
PCLaxAttack
05-20-2007, 01:19 AM
mark prey-fontbonne
TURNUVA
05-20-2007, 01:35 AM
one of the loobys I think kevin
Trinity
POCK3Ts
05-20-2007, 02:44 AM
Burkhart was robbed. Saw the game today and SLUH played real dirty.
i dunno what game you were at today but the one i saw sluh didnt play dirty. they got rapped. i mean even after micds put in there jv they couldnt even score. burkhart played ok. but nothing amazing. werent that many shots for him to even save.
TURNUVA
05-20-2007, 01:49 PM
does lafayette have a shot against rockhurst?
CBC should be able to beat MICDS if they do what parkway west did and take koeneman out early and control saltman. If they are physical early on they should be able to win.
Madman lax
05-20-2007, 08:05 PM
I heard there a few from CBC their mid smith Manhattan College - their d pole #32 is going to Wittenburg, their attackman #9 St.Leo in Florida and I think I heard someone say the goalie might be going to St.Leo as well if not Lindenwood.
HawkletLax
05-20-2007, 10:15 PM
ya i know one looby is goin to trinity, the other to Navy
reilly hannapel is goin to ursinus and reintjes is going to Hobart
pshwarriorlax17
05-21-2007, 07:03 PM
Congrats to Koenoman for getting invited to try out for the U-19 USA team.
hurst022
05-21-2007, 08:01 PM
thats pretty impressive, way to respresent the midwest
yallaintgood
05-21-2007, 09:01 PM
Congrats to Koenoman for getting invited to try out for the U-19 USA team.
i dont know if this is the case with him, but you do realize that anyone who goes to lax.com can get invited if you are a member, say you re interested, then send in money... and that qualifies you to be in a pool to be selevted to go tryout for the team which is only about 30 guys actually making it...
fenderstrat3578
05-21-2007, 09:42 PM
according to this: http://www.laxpower.com/laxnews/news.php?story=7275
he was selected by US Lacrosse
fenderstrat3578
05-21-2007, 09:46 PM
and it says that coaches choose players from their areas to nominate, and US Lacrosse cuts it down. So basically, he was CHOSEN, and didn't PAY to be invited on lax.com.
cmriocsdsse09
05-21-2007, 09:51 PM
yallaintgood u have no idea what your talking about do you because obviously he was chosen, us lacrosse isnt gonna chosse a ****ty player if they pay money
CoachFauss
05-21-2007, 11:12 PM
i dont know if this is the case with him, but you do realize that anyone who goes to lax.com can get invited if you are a member, say you re interested, then send in money... and that qualifies you to be in a pool to be selevted to go tryout for the team which is only about 30 guys actually making it...
Just wanted to make sure that everyone knows that this isn't true. You do have to be a member of US Lacrosse to be eligible but MSLA submitted a list and he was selected by US Lacrosse. These are the top U-19 players in the country and I would imagine that the list of colleges these players are attending would be a list of the top programs in the country.
This an an extremely presitigious recognition and I'm not sure why someone else in this area would try to cut him down. Congrats and good luck Drew!
Coach_Lee
05-22-2007, 11:02 AM
Coach Fauss is correct.
Congratulations Drew.
I had the great opportunity to play in the 2003 U-19 World Championships in Baltimore and the US U-19 team was absolutely stellar... great group of guys. A roster link to 2003 is below:
http://www.uslacrosse.org/national_teams/rosters/u19men_2003.phtml
If you do your research, you will find that most of these guys are multiple-time Div1 All-Americans and it is a great honor to be considered in a field of 120 players to try out for this squad.
My hope is to get a player from Missouri out to the tryout every 4 years (and get a few on the final squad as well!), so to the young'ns out there... start workin on your game because it can be done.
Good luck to all 4 playoff teams.
Laxgoalie54
05-23-2007, 12:00 AM
if i recall correctly no rockhurst players were chosen.... suprising.... i think not, Rockhurst has great great great players that can play really good, but no team has the player that has the potential to single-handedly win a game against a tough opponent like koeneman does. Koeneman can potentialy take over games and defeat teams a basketball analogy would be like michael jordan kind of. I don't think there is a more important individual to a team in the whole state than Koeneman.
TURNUVA
05-23-2007, 11:03 AM
Any thoughts on the games tonight?
Heard MICDS has a few out.
Pottyboy55
05-23-2007, 12:04 PM
Kannonballs
hurst022
05-23-2007, 12:25 PM
i think that there is no i in team and that rockhurst is overall a way better program, many average teams in the state have good players but becuase the support players are merly average or less they cant win, agasint a good opponenet
oldno24
05-23-2007, 01:04 PM
Does anyone know definitively the times for tonight's semi's? I had heard that MICDS-CBC is 5pm, and Rockhurst-Lafayette is 7:30. But the bracket on molax.com has it the other way around.
LAXAF
05-23-2007, 02:30 PM
Bracket is wrong. MICDS vs. CBC is first. Lafayette vs. Rockhurst second.
HawkletLax
05-23-2007, 07:06 PM
ive never seen lafayette play...do they have good enough players to win?
i think itll be closer than people think
TURNUVA
05-23-2007, 08:01 PM
any idea of the score of Micds and CBC?
CBCLAX13
05-23-2007, 08:24 PM
CB won 10-7
Laxgoalie54
05-23-2007, 08:44 PM
CBC wanted it more, but koenoman got his 5 or 6 goals and to quote the coach from two-a-days "there's nothing about you a loser you go out as a winner", and barely any slides from MICDS but to there defense about 10 micds shots hit the post. Great game but not MICDS' best game if MICDS played like they did against SLUH it would have been a different story. Anyways great job CBC and good luck against rockhurst ur gonna need it.
fenderstrat3578
05-23-2007, 11:10 PM
laf rock score?
goalie33fan
05-24-2007, 12:07 AM
18-9 rockhurst
Madman lax
05-24-2007, 11:32 AM
Your wrong - MICDS played as well against SLUH as they did CBC. Yes it appeared CBC wanted it more but SLUH did not show up. They got destroyed on fast breaks and man ups. At least 10 goals. face offs were key. SLUH lost a majority of them to Drew. CBC won the majority.
TURNUVA
05-24-2007, 12:59 PM
CBC got off to a better start than MICDS.They came out slow and the MICDS goalie who has been amazin all year was off his game. Rapp had some major flags for micds at bad times. It will be interesting to watch with koeneman and those other seniors gone who micds really has? The only positive is they have a freshman goalie who didnt get much playing time on V but looked good at the cbc freshman tourney.
fenderstrat3578
05-24-2007, 02:22 PM
I would say that MICDS played better than CBC in the 2nd half, but dug themselves a hole in the 1st. MICDS played horribly in the first half, I mean they just didn't show up until the second half. CBC owned the gb's and Walczyk scored a lot off of backdoor cuts.
I doubt that next year will be a rebuilding year, I think that this year was their rebuilding year. They will lose their goalie, koeneman, saltman, morley, moltoun, and two dpoles, but they seem to have a LOT of depth. They only lose 1 attackman, 3 dpoles, two of which who started but they do have tons of younger dpoles who are talented, and three middies and a goalie. I think that MICDS will actually lose the least of all the top contenders this year.
Rockhurst and CBC are both losing important people, and they are losing large numbers as well.
On another note, who all do you think will be the AA's and Academic AA? does the Academic AA have to be All-state?
drnkndakoolaid
05-24-2007, 05:46 PM
CBC looked sharp last night. How does that translate to the championship? Was MICDS physical? Didn't look like it. MICDS's goalie had a REALLY off night. It's a shame too. He was asolid all year. Does CBC have a face off guy?
CBCLAX13
05-24-2007, 07:51 PM
"and barely any slides from MICDS"
-Laxgoalie54
Uhh they were in a zone brah
QPLax11
05-24-2007, 10:29 PM
i have an off topic question, but i was wondering how many ppl were chosen for all conference? like how many at each position or what?
goalie33fan
05-24-2007, 11:07 PM
a bunch...
TURNUVA
05-25-2007, 07:29 AM
too many.....just an example micsds players lyss,koeneman,morley,burkhardt, dejohn, holthaus, saltman all seniors i think but i dont think lyss is.
cbc... barrett, smith, rawley, walczyk,jones plothenhauer.
lafayette... fudakowski, eising, jehling, mcKibben,birner
rockhurst... hannapel, fryer, kevin and colin looby,becker, o;brien. balderston, reintjes,rhoades,gude,ferber
parkway south...baker, wendling, steveson,gould,self
just a sampling seems like a lot.
did the loobys get a bid for the U-19 team?
seniors leaving
micds-9
layafette-11
cbc=23
desmet-15
kirkwood=16
parkway west 9
sluh= 8 look to be pretty good with 3 all conf players returning next year
rockhurst=18
LAXAF
05-25-2007, 09:57 AM
23 from cbc. Thats a big hole to fill.
PshLax12
05-25-2007, 10:04 AM
congrats drew. that's awesome.
Coach Lee,
After looking at that 2003 u-19 roster, i am officially impressed.
hurst022
05-25-2007, 12:07 PM
hickman has 7 all conference players returning...
the ice box
05-25-2007, 02:56 PM
any predictoins on tomorrows game?
HawkletLax
05-25-2007, 03:29 PM
Rockhurst 11-8
QPLax11
05-25-2007, 04:53 PM
ill predict Rockhurst 14-5
fenderstrat3578
05-25-2007, 05:23 PM
how did hickman even have 7 all conference players, that makes no sense to me if they are in the same conf as rock
pshlax18
05-25-2007, 09:02 PM
im thinking its gonna be a close game tomorrow. should be a good one
PhilMicrevis
05-26-2007, 12:47 AM
The dynasty that is Rockhurst lacrosse is about to climax tomorrow night. my prediction: 36-0 blue storm. We may bring in some fans to keep the game interesting. I've got to go spend some money but bring the key to the city tomorrow.
Fortune favors the bold,
Phill Micrevis (midfield)
P.S. Hawkletlax is brilliant
Dashlock
05-26-2007, 12:59 AM
yea we get it... rockhurst is really good. woo-hoo.
fenderstrat3578
05-26-2007, 01:00 AM
What dynasty...you've won 2 state titles in your teams history, possibly three tomorow. Don't flatter yourself too much, I don't know if you know this but DeSmet went through a pretty serious phase of domination for 4-5 years and MICDS did too. Sweet, rock has been good this year and last, but that is no dynasty my friend
fenderstrat3578
05-26-2007, 01:03 AM
and fyi: by saying that rockhurst will climax tomorow implies that that will be the highest point for the program ever, and that it's all downhill from their, so unless you consider tomorrow to be rock's last stand, then it isn't their "climax"
pshwarriorlax17
05-26-2007, 01:04 AM
Don't be too humble. 36-0 yeah good prediction.
I think it should be a good game though, score 11-9 rockhurst
PhilMicrevis
05-26-2007, 01:16 AM
what do any of u forum junkies know about climaxing :agree:
you can't logically say i'm wrong about anything because I am intellectually, physically, and sexually better than all
rock state 88
ps watch out for number 5 (Phil Micrevis) storming through the midfield
PhilMicrevis
05-26-2007, 01:19 AM
what do any of u forum junkies know about climaxing
you can't logically say i'm wrong about anything because I am intellectually, physically, and sexually better than all
rock state 88
ps watch out for number 5 (Phil Micrevis) storming through the midfield
fenderstrat3578
05-26-2007, 01:57 AM
what do any of u forum junkies know about climaxing
you can't logically say i'm wrong about anything because I am intellectually, physically, and sexually better than all
rock state 88
ps watch out for number 5 (Phil Micrevis) storming through the midfield
probably a whole lot more than the kid who goes to an all boys school
apparently you aren't even on rock's varsity roster, so why would we look out for you
pshwarriorlax17
05-26-2007, 01:59 AM
Yeah I was just about to say something about you not being on rockhurst's varsity roster. Storming alright.
PCLaxAttack
05-26-2007, 03:25 AM
who do u guys think will get AA? i think it will be jehling and prey. both have been dominant all year. and also, how does matt schenk from p central not get all state? i know hes only a sophomore but he led the state in goals, he should have gotten it.
pshlax18
05-26-2007, 04:00 AM
once again, all state all american-all of that stuff=politics. everyone that is on the all state/all american list knowns that. schenk should have been all state and if he's on this forum, then i'll tell him personally, he deserves it. but so do other players that were not awarded the honor. you don't get ur respect from the awards you receive, you get it from the players you face.
TURNUVA
05-26-2007, 09:26 AM
this could be the last year of your "dynasty".You are graduating a lot next year and if i remember your jv or freshman team lost in the cbc tourney to a team from indiana and your jv barely got by micds in the beginning of the year. I gusess Rockhurst will do what they do in football go out and "recruit" their players so it should all be good...lol.
CBC is a turf team so dont write them off just yet.
laxmonster54
05-26-2007, 10:18 AM
how did hickman even have 7 all conference players, that makes no sense to me if they are in the same conf as rock
I play for Hickman and some of those all conference players are 2nd year players!
I know its amazing. :bartmoon:
HawkletLax
05-26-2007, 02:29 PM
this could be the last year of your "dynasty".You are graduating a lot next year and if i remember your jv or freshman team lost in the cbc tourney to a team from indiana and your jv barely got by micds in the beginning of the year. I gusess Rockhurst will do what they do in football go out and "recruit" their players so it should all be good...lol.
CBC is a turf team so dont write them off just yet.
rockhurst doesnt have to recruit, it is the only jesuit and all guys high school in KC so people throughout the kc metro area come. plus there are very few youth lacrosse teams in kc so, recruiting doesnt really work.
hurst022
05-26-2007, 03:03 PM
thats combined first and second team though for hickman....
fenderstrat3578
05-26-2007, 04:06 PM
CBC wins 9-8 OT
So much for the rockhurst "dynasty" huh? btw, I didnt see you #5, too busy watching CBC take it home.
BTW: that dpole who got a penalty that went into OT was dumb
the ice box
05-26-2007, 05:00 PM
CBC BEATS HURST 9-8 IN OT WAY TO BRING THE TROPHY BACK TO OUR SIDE BOYS! CONGRATS
goalie33fan
05-26-2007, 05:27 PM
nice job cbc
glad someone from stl finaly won
nice season rockhurst
Laxgoalie54
05-26-2007, 05:27 PM
CBC is an STL team where, Missouir LAX started and if anyone should win state it should be a stlouis team and CBC played their heart out and played just about a perfect game and was able to play the best CBC could and any short of that they would not have been able to beat the "unstoppable" rockhurst team. Apparently the nations number 20 something country can be beat by just another MO team. Also, this defeat leads to the fact that a MO team beat rockhurst when rockhurst had the loobys and reijentes and there other great seniors and there goalie i think.... what will happen without the seniors next year, I believe this win is a sign of things to come over the next 4 or 5 years and that is that the top tier of stlouis teams will be on an equal level if not better than rockhurst and will no longer have to be intimidated. Also to tell more about rockhurst's demise their JV lost to Lindbergh in the JV tourny, no knock on lindbergh but it wasnt even a good enough team to be on MICDS schedule.
goalie33fan
05-26-2007, 05:32 PM
I think it also proves that there isnt a sport that CBC cant win a championship in.
fenderstrat3578
05-26-2007, 05:53 PM
CBC BEATS HURST 9-8 IN OT WAY TO BRING THE TROPHY BACK TO OUR SIDE BOYS! CONGRATS
glad someone from stl finaly won
You guys are speaking as if rock has been winning the state trophy every year.
They have only won it twice, and last year was one of the only years, other than last year, they haven't won it since like 2002
hurst022
05-26-2007, 05:55 PM
congrats cbc, good season rockhurst...both these teams deserve credit because they both did some tight stuff this season......quality end to a good 07 season
Laxgoalie54
05-26-2007, 06:34 PM
CBC enjoy the victory but next year will be alot tougher for you guys to come back and win again without smith and the other seniors.
returning Varsity players:
CBC:8 returning players cockings is among them and so is the coaches son nick condon One thing positive for next year that CBC has to look forward to is the maturity of the JV state champions, even though there was some controversy that they pulled a couple players down for the tourny.
MICDS:-Sure Koeneman and Holthaus and Burkhardt are gone and they were a huge part of this year's MICDS team. Burkhardt for one was not even highly thought of before the season (the reason he didnt win all state PREY was overrated). But MICDS is returning a large amount of players to they have about20 players from their varsity team who werent seniors. Astonishingly they had a freshman who started sometimes and played alot in every game. They're backup goalie was a freshman as well and his brother won two state titles for their varsity. The other aspect that makes MICDS's 20 returning players dangerous is that 10 of them were in the top two lines for their teams or the next guy in at the starting job if one got hurt, in fact all of them started atleast two games. four guys from their top 8 scoring leaders are coming back and their assist leader Brendan Lyss as well as a Crease attack who is a soph who was fourth on the team in goals.
Parkway West: has a long list of players(around 20) coming back and could be a very very dangerous team as the teams top 5 points leaders besides the senior charlie Brodsky are coming back, including there face-off guy. West could break the long drought of a non-cbc, micds, desmet team to make the finals.
Rockhurst-about 15 players coming back but barely any starters or players that got time maybe a few. Not the same team as the past don't be suprised if teams like parkway west or lafayette beat them next year.
Kirkwood-Also has about over 15 returning players could be one of those teams than can give the upper tier some trouble and can pull of upsets.
Parkway Central: Prey is gone which means basically a really bad d for Central but something to look forward to is the tandem of the Schenk brothers the sophmore, Matt led STL in goals and will be a force for the next two years.
Laxgoalie54
05-26-2007, 06:37 PM
also a note for MICDS in that last post, they won the freshman tournament and came second in the jv tournament but there was some controversy of CBC bringing down players not sure how many but ya.
Laxgoalie54
05-26-2007, 06:39 PM
I think it also proves that there isnt a sport that CBC cant win a championship in.
wow could this be a more incorrect assumption, all girls sports for one they can not win and second of all they can't win in Golf either or hockey and other sports.
Laxgoalie54
05-26-2007, 06:42 PM
next years top ten teams:
1. MICDS
2.Parkway West
3.Rockhurst
4.Desmet
5.CBC
6.Kirkwood
7.Sluh
8.Vianney
9.Columbia Hickman
10.Lafayette
TURNUVA
05-26-2007, 07:04 PM
the freshman you are talking about is theodoro that started. He was a not a factor in the playoffs. He is not a koeneman. Potter is good and he is humble, unlike theodoro
I will give him props for being the only freshman to make varsity but there was some talk about how that happened???? There were better players that should have been on the field during playoffs and some big games during the season. He should be better next year if he keeps his ego in check.
pshwarriorlax17
05-26-2007, 07:10 PM
How is Prey overrated he had the second best save percentage in Missouri. He led his team through the whole season. He is far from overrated.
Laxgoalie54
05-26-2007, 07:48 PM
turnuva i kno exactly what ur talking about courtney or should i say nick needs to let his play do the talking for him but he does have potential to be a koeneman or close to it other than that mclaughlin will be great but not a koeneman, rapps a defensive player first.... i could see that attack for MICDS get moved back to middie because if he learns how to play average level d he will be the best offensive middie in the state, koeneman worked with him all winter long and wanted him to be on the starting middie line with him, thats y that sophmore attack started as a middie for micds for the first 4 games. But ya um the goalie will b filthy next year I heard he made a sick save on a bouncer which was shot with 3 seconds left when MICDS was winning by one to win the freshman tourny for MICDS. I wonder who his back up will be I heard there are like 2 or three sophmores going after that job. Their defense is returning two starters if u count long pole mid. They are the favorites for next year I think so
Laxgoalie54
05-26-2007, 07:49 PM
How is Prey overrated he had the second best save percentage in Missouri. He led his team through the whole season. He is far from overrated.
you're right he is not ovverrated at all but he did not deserve it over Burkhardt and you know that, he is actually a very good goalie that Central would have clearly not won half of their games without
Laxgoalie54
05-26-2007, 07:52 PM
turnuva r u brookes.....
laxdefense5
05-26-2007, 08:11 PM
wow could this be a more incorrect assumption, all girls sports for one they can not win and second of all they can't win in Golf either or hockey and other sports.
they won state in hockey brah...
and thanks for telling everyone cbc cant win state in girls sports, its not like we didnt already know, but thanks anyway.
quit ranting about how amazing you think MICDS is. its obvious you go there. MICDS would have been a crap team offensively if they didnt have koeneman. he set up everything on offense and scored probably pretty close to half, if not more, of their goals. maybe micds will be a top contender next year but who knows not to mention your also losing your head coach. a reason why you guys are so good is because your players start playing together in junior high.
Laxgoalie54
05-26-2007, 08:20 PM
i meant field hockey brah..
laxdefense5
05-26-2007, 08:22 PM
i meant field hockey brah..
all guys school moron of course they cant win state in girls sports
we know burkhardt is a great goalie, but dont tear down other great goalies to prove your point. i can think of 5 or 6 teams who had phenominal goalies. most of them didnt get recognition, like burkhardt, i agree that sucks
lauber, prey, burkhardt, gould, barnett, rocks goalie, were all studs. im probably leaving out a few but theres a list of solid goalies from missouri this year
Laxgoalie54
05-26-2007, 10:01 PM
bro no need for animosity congrats on winning u obviously seem like ur from CBC and i kno that was the joke u guys r an all guys school and it must suck at times not having any hot girls at school but ya um burkhardt unlike all ur other great goalies lead in all the major stats and played less gamecuz micds didnt play as many games against teams like ft.zumwalt like the CADETS.
Madman lax
05-26-2007, 10:51 PM
Brah.. there is 100% absolutely no controversy on the jv tournament. There were only 2 players from the varsity team on the CBC jv team. jack Walsh, third line mid and Nick Condon 5 attackman after his choulder injury. That was it. They were not the decision makers nor this they have an outcome of the come. Take away the goals they scored and CBC still wins each of those games. Get the facts correct. Oh they by the way are 10th graders vs. some teams that had juniors. Get real.
TURNUVA
05-27-2007, 01:19 AM
laxgoalie54 so u are sayin that koeneman coached theodoro all summer? I guess it shows what kind of a player koeneman is that he would take him under his wing. Lets be honest it isnt a bad gig having to play on a line with koeneman as a freshman he makes people look good. maybe theodoro or courtney jp should play attack? hes not real big and has decent speed but i heard he is the best conditioned player on the team and blows everyone else out with his speed. Rapp is a total D specialist and heard mckormick wasnt bad either. with harbison and rapp on d and potter in goal they look pretty solid but offense ??? I agree with the guy a few posts up that koeneman and saltman were solid on working the plays. As far as goalies go Potter is the only decent one and I think the have a kid named faraz? no clue about his skills?
STLLAX1
05-27-2007, 10:44 AM
Congrats CBC No one thought you guys could do it.
Bottom line: CBC kept their cool and Rockhurst did not and started getting cheap shot penalties.
CBC goalie played a crazy game, CBC defense #32 shut down Looby, Smith had a great game and that attack #3 had some great goals.
So much for the Rockhurst dynasty.
STLLAX1
05-27-2007, 10:49 AM
CBC Awesome job. So much for the Rockhurst dynasty.
The goal was crazy good, #32 shut down Lobby and Smith played a tuff game 4pts.
Awesome goal by the attackman peterson, and he come back.
Bottom line CBC kept their cool and Rockhurst fell apart.
STLLAX1
05-27-2007, 11:21 AM
LY with the so called perfect season the Rock play only 1 team with a LAX power rating of 90 or better. This year they played 11 games with teams having a power rating of 90+ Guess what they went 5-6. Makes u wonder about 2006?
HawkletLax
05-27-2007, 11:29 AM
stllax1 rockhurst was much better last year that is a fact, they won the state championship by about 9...also 2 of those 5 losses came from 2 of the top teams in the nation(georgetown prep and loyola) and one of those wins also came from a great east coast team in Gonzaga. last year we didnt schedule these games because we did not know the potential of the team. this year we saw what we could do and scheduled them even though the coach probably knew they had a more talented team last year.
cdslax
05-27-2007, 04:30 PM
Everyone, i am very sorry about laxgoalie54. He goes to a school called principia where there is no lax team. For some reason he knows alot about our school.
cdslax
05-27-2007, 04:37 PM
everyone i am very sorry about laxgoalie54. He is a kid who goes to a small school called principia where they dont have a lax team. For some reason, he knows alot about our lax team. He is really a nice guy when u meet him. lol
the ice box
05-27-2007, 04:59 PM
from watching the game i decided that #32 for cbc (pfotenhauer) blake barnett, drew peterson, and erich definitely held that game up.... you cannot forget the other d pole #18 tyler rawley
goalie33fan
05-27-2007, 05:38 PM
i went to middle school with drew
Laxgoalie54
05-27-2007, 05:56 PM
laxgoalie54 so u are sayin that koeneman coached theodoro all summer? I guess it shows what kind of a player koeneman is that he would take him under his wing. Lets be honest it isnt a bad gig having to play on a line with koeneman as a freshman he makes people look good. maybe theodoro or courtney jp should play attack? hes not real big and has decent speed but i heard he is the best conditioned player on the team and blows everyone else out with his speed. Rapp is a total D specialist and heard mckormick wasnt bad either. with harbison and rapp on d and potter in goal they look pretty solid but offense ??? I agree with the guy a few posts up that koeneman and saltman were solid on working the plays. As far as goalies go Potter is the only decent one and I think the have a kid named faraz? no clue about his skills?
no i was talking about that attack mcormick who koeneman kinda took under his wings and played attack and started with hiim. not theodoro
Laxgoalie54
05-27-2007, 06:07 PM
k fine i dont play lax and i am from principia and watever if i did play goalie i'd b just like loftus, my boy did u see how he stayed in like a warrior and made a key save with 3 minutes left
STLLAX1
05-27-2007, 08:33 PM
9-8 dude
CBC State Champ
PCLaxAttack
05-27-2007, 08:40 PM
wow could this be a more incorrect assumption, all girls sports for one they can not win and second of all they can't win in Golf either or hockey and other sports.
i think this guy is retarded cbc wins the state hockey championship EVERY YEAR. and central is returning every dpole and the schenk thats a junior will be a stud goalie. central will be even better than they were this year matt schenk will be one of the top attack in the midwest for the next two years.
12&20sDad
05-28-2007, 01:09 AM
CBC Awesome job. So much for the Rockhurst dynasty.
The goal was crazy good, #32 shut down Lobby and Smith played a tuff game 4pts.
Awesome goal by the attackman peterson, and he come back.
Bottom line CBC kept their cool and Rockhurst fell apart.
Kevin had 4 assists and Colin had 4 goals. Not sure what Looby was shut down, but it wasn't the 2 on the field.
Hats off to CBC - they came ready to play. Let the positive light shine on them.
I hope you all realize the competition is not just MO. For us to be take seriously (Missouri, that is), we have to elevate our level of play. Keep that spirit up here - very important - but keep your sights on the bigger prize. The more we can elevate competition here, the better we will be against the rest of the country. It should not be a big deal when a MO all star team goes east and does well - it should be expected. So keep your rivalries going, but make sure you keep the sport growing. Thank god coach Sinnet came from ND to Desmet. Thank god the McGilley family moved from STL to KC in the mid-90's to get things started here. Thank god folks like coachs Pettinelli and Coleman are willing to deal with keeping the administrative crap going - no big reward for that, but without it, the league dies. Newer coaches like coach Fauss help keep the excitement going. We have so much to be proud of, but so much farther to go.
Our four years are unfortunately done, but I truly believe in our Missouri ability to become a premier LAX state, if we can just keep it growing. Looking forward to keeping an eye on you stars of the future!
p.s. Not sure why this info is not available, but in response to an earlier post, a good number of excellent Missouri players from both sides of the state were not eligible for the 19 and under team because of the strict age limits. Kevin was nominated, but not selected (nominations nationally were overweighted at attack, I am told). Colin was not eligible due to his commitment to the Naval Academy. Let's all get behind Drew as he heads off to do battle with the 120 best in the country!.
MOLax08
05-28-2007, 03:58 AM
CBC was my underdog pick. Defense stuck in there very nicely for CBC. Rock had the ball in their possession much more than CBC. The game could have gone either way. It went to the team that obviously just wanted the victory a little more. It was packed on the CBC side. intimidation factor...Let's name some key players.
TURNUVA
05-28-2007, 10:30 AM
were those twins from rockhurst looby effective @ all in the state game?
POCK3Ts
05-28-2007, 11:56 AM
#25 on cbc i think was a HUGE factor in the game (jones i think) he has a few key assists and a goal and started most of their setteled situtations that led to goals. i thought he hsould have gotten the mvp personally cause i thought it was a large part his effort that led to the win. If not him most other drives led from eric smith who played his heart out in that game offense and defense and all the other goals were lead by him. Even though blake played well i still think this kid deserved it but hey congrats blake you played a great game also
cdslax
05-28-2007, 06:19 PM
Does anyone know who the all-americans are this year. I know Drew K. was.
cdslax
05-28-2007, 06:21 PM
Does anyone know who the all- americans are for this year. I know Drew K is one.
MOLax08
05-28-2007, 07:16 PM
who all had hat-tricks?2 from Rockhurst and 2 from CBC
Madman lax
05-28-2007, 10:16 PM
All Americans have not been decided yet. Drew has not been awarded the title at this time.
Madman lax
05-28-2007, 10:20 PM
I agree #25 Jones played awesome, I have watched all three of CBC's play off games and he game he played out of his mind. Did anyone see the cross check to Erich Smith in the OT? The gash above his eye was incredible. He had blood all over his face and still came back into the game. Blake made 20 saves. He deserved it no question.
Dashlock
05-29-2007, 02:59 AM
So whos trying out for summer samurai? Any other goalies besides me?
TURNUVA
05-29-2007, 03:03 PM
Is everyone playing the Irish Elite or not? Wondering if it is worth the time?
hurst022
05-29-2007, 05:34 PM
im doing the QC lax leauge. i dont have to pay 1200 bucks for it to have custom shorts and 2 trips out of state.( samuris) its tight though that your doing it dan good luck. Whos going out of state for camps this summer??? im going to the peak goalie school and possibly players choice @ UMASS and the penn state goalie camp
Dashlock
05-29-2007, 06:06 PM
the players choice at UMAss Dartmouth is really good. I went there last summer and i improved alot. The goalie camp run by billy daye has alot of cannons players. they also have good prizes. i won a cannons cpx
Madman lax
05-30-2007, 01:53 AM
Lax54 don't know squat about lacrosse - Here's the scoop, 5 out of the 9 goals were scored by under classman. Not the 25 seniors you seemed to be so down on. Just chill and worry about stopping the ball even if you attend principia. Rockhurst played well all year. The Looby's are legit, Reilly is legit and Reinjtes is good but lost his cool he had to resort to playing dirty and cheap against #12. Self control is necessary to do well. Throwing the stick in mid air is a unsportsman conduct foul. Obviously the response above is from Mr. Looby who is dead on. The key is to grow and improve Missouri lacrosse. It would be awesome to see the top 12 teams talk this kind of trash about players and rivalaries. The bottom, work on your game. Camps are a great place to start, not the first week of practice. Missouri needs to improve, states like Texas, Florida, Colorado are blowing past us in boys playing in college.
roadlax
05-30-2007, 10:17 AM
if you want any team to play a tougher schedule how about you get off this forum, get a couple of team members together and raise the level of your school's game and power rating? Make you wonder what YOU"RE thinking???
molax92
05-30-2007, 10:24 AM
Irish Elite is the best opportunity in the state of MO to get exposure to college coaches. Read the brochure to see who is coming, but there are many D1, D2 and D3 schools represented. This is way better than going to one of the big east coast camps where there's 500 guys, and it is tough to stand out. You get one on one time with coaches, and the results are real. Listed D1 schools are ND, Fairfield, Yale, UMass, Robert Morris, Sacred Heart (CT) and I think there will be some others there also. There are MO kids at almost all these schools, and that's why they come here.
They also pick a team from this camp to attend the Notre Dame Challenge camp in July. Another great opportunity for exposure, although you won't get the close contact you get here. The supply of coaches may be limited, but there's no better chance close to home at a good price.
stllax888
05-30-2007, 02:52 PM
I heard Nick Theodoro is the future of the MICDS team? Are they really building the team around him since Hopkins and many Seniors are leaving or is that a rumor?
the ice box
05-30-2007, 04:44 PM
What underclassmen does CBC have coming up? i read on here that they have like 25 seniors leaving or something?
fenderstrat3578
05-30-2007, 05:22 PM
I heard Nick Theodoro is the future of the MICDS team? Are they really building the team around him since Hopkins and many Seniors are leaving or is that a rumor?
That would be a joke/rumor
cdslax
05-30-2007, 09:12 PM
thats biggest bunch of BS
stllax888
05-30-2007, 09:42 PM
came from the horses mouth if you catch my drift how good he is.
fenderstrat3578
05-30-2007, 09:42 PM
yeah that was a pretty rediculous statement
wolfie8914
05-31-2007, 03:31 AM
The dynasty that is Rockhurst lacrosse is about to climax tomorrow night. my prediction: 36-0 blue storm. We may bring in some fans to keep the game interesting. I've got to go spend some money but bring the key to the city tomorrow.
Fortune favors the bold,
Phill Micrevis (midfield)
P.S. Hawkletlax is brilliant
I'm slowly realizing how ridiculous this statement is.
fenderstrat3578
05-31-2007, 10:48 AM
came from the horses mouth if you catch my drift how good he is.
No I don't, because he is not good enough to base a team around. There are many more, way better underclassmen who will be juniors and sophmores next year who will be just as good or better. That is the dumbest statement I have heard in a while about any team. You sir, have no idea what you are talking about
the ice box
05-31-2007, 11:06 AM
hey guys you dont have to rip him a new one, he was just asking if it was true or not
TURNUVA
05-31-2007, 11:28 AM
listen there is no way micds is going to build their team around a freshman. Biggest mistake they made is putting a freshman on the team who has a big mouth. They will build their team around juniors/sophmores and their goalie, who i understand is a freshman and has skills. Waterbury, McCormick, Lyss, Rapp. Theodoro didnt do anything against CBC or Ladue so he can talk all he wants.
cdslax
05-31-2007, 06:13 PM
Theodoro is good and he works hard so in the future i cud see him being an asset to our team in the next couple of years. But there are also many other players that we have that will make large contributions within the next couple years.
lax_dude0123
05-31-2007, 06:39 PM
whos mccormick and waterbury? I know rapp is a really good d middie and lyss is just awesome behind the goal..
MOLax08
06-03-2007, 02:56 PM
I can see another CBC v Rockhurst Final next year, too.
fenderstrat3578
06-03-2007, 06:34 PM
I can see another CBC v Rockhurst Final next year, too.
i dont see that
hurst022
06-03-2007, 09:25 PM
i dont see that either. next year will be interesting. i think a few schools will come out a lot tougher then most people would think. but the core 4 will still be top 10 of course
cmriocsdsse09
06-03-2007, 11:58 PM
who do you consider the core 4?
Eclipse
06-04-2007, 12:09 AM
Rockhurst
Desmet
MICDS
CBC
Likely the core 4 he is speaking of
Madman lax
06-04-2007, 12:12 AM
Watch out for SLUH they have some really good underclassman.
HawkletLax
06-04-2007, 12:55 AM
I can see another CBC v Rockhurst Final next year, too.
i agree. i hear cbc has some good juniors coming up...i know rock does.
id love to see a rematch.
but on the otherhand both teams are losing key players, but like any solid program, they will overcome them. that is why i think rock and cbc will meet in the finals
pshlax18
06-04-2007, 03:53 AM
so i guess we dont really need to have a stl all star team vs rockhurst...
fenderstrat3578
06-04-2007, 11:54 AM
i don't see rock being a huge power like the past 2 years. i dont see cbc being a huge power either. I might not be surprised if one of them makes finals, but i think both of them making it is wishful thinking. They both are losing alot.
stllaxer
06-04-2007, 12:52 PM
so i guess we dont really need to have a stl all star team vs rockhurst...
why would you say that?
i personally like the idea because it give my team, along with most of the other schools, especially the public ones like the parkway district and ladue any chance of competeing with the rockhurst team.
just my opinion, but i would sure like to beat them
HawkletLax
06-04-2007, 01:06 PM
why would you say that?
i personally like the idea because it give my team, along with most of the other schools, especially the public ones like the parkway district and ladue any chance of competeing with the rockhurst team.
just my opinion, but i would sure like to beat them
you shouldnt need an all star team. in fact you dont.
BIGDGOALIE
06-04-2007, 05:50 PM
Who's goin to Irish Elite?
Who's playing in the Elite League?
hurst022
06-04-2007, 11:54 PM
im going to the camp......but since im from columbia i have to stay in a hotel or drive back everyday......anyone got an extra room? ill pay 50 bucks for the stay
the ice box
06-05-2007, 12:28 AM
your right... and cbc proved that by beating rockhurst... cbc proved that the underdog can win... and even if your team isnt stacked you can still overcome the odds and win
stllaxer
06-05-2007, 04:33 PM
o i know that schools like cbc have a chance, but we (lafayette) are the only public school with a chance. the rest of the public schools seem to get run off the field every time they play them. i was just thinking it would be nice for some of the better players on those teams to play on a team that has a chance
pshwarriorlax17
06-05-2007, 05:09 PM
Psouth gave them there closest Missouri game last year. But we didn't play them this year.
Also isn't the awards banquet tonight, where they are going to announce AA?
fenderstrat3578
06-05-2007, 07:55 PM
i already know the AA and Academic AA
HawkletLax
06-05-2007, 08:59 PM
i know a looby, hannipel, and reinjetes are all americans
pretty sure, thats what the Rockhurst coach told me...
QPLax11
06-05-2007, 11:31 PM
lafayette apparently has the only chance for a public school...im sure there will be more.
laxmaster008
06-06-2007, 03:17 AM
all americans - both loobys, rentejes, koenemen, gehling
Academic AAs - burkhardt and snively
cmriocsdsse09
06-06-2007, 12:27 PM
whos snively? whos he play for
TURNUVA
06-08-2007, 06:24 AM
I think Theodoro MICDS was asked to do Irish Elite as a freshman?
Not sure who else is?
hurst022
06-08-2007, 12:31 PM
i dont think people are asked to do that, i think there are requirements for the elite camp. if hes a freshman he might not meet those even though he may be good enough to attend.....
the ice box
06-08-2007, 01:45 PM
i played the elite camp as a freshman... all you do is sign up
hurst022
06-08-2007, 05:15 PM
oh ok...it had soe kind of requirements on the sign up thing. maybe it isnt followed...ill see yall on sunday whom ever is attending.
fenderstrat3578
06-09-2007, 08:23 PM
turnuva, why do you CONSTANTLY talk about theodoro, damn, hes not worth talking about constantly, there are better freshman in the area
Dashlock
06-10-2007, 01:28 PM
maybe he is thedoro?
TURNUVA
06-11-2007, 12:27 AM
ahhh no sry
fenderstrat3578
06-11-2007, 02:22 AM
then leave it alone with theodoro
TURNUVA
06-11-2007, 12:50 PM
Obviously he is better than u so I can see why u have a problem....
He is a great TEAM player.
TURNUVA
06-11-2007, 01:08 PM
Players for Elite meet the following criteria:
Any returing Varsity player, or,
Any incoming Junior or Senior who has played two years of High School lacrosse, or,
Seniors who grauated in 2007
fenderstrat3578
06-11-2007, 02:52 PM
all i am saying is you basically talk about him nonstop, I have no problem with him...i think its random to call him a great team player when he wasn't really a large contributer...
TURNUVA
06-11-2007, 04:58 PM
did u even see him play at irish today?
he dominated
POCK3Ts
06-11-2007, 05:31 PM
so really you are obviously him. otherwise you for real need to get a life you being absolutely ridiculous. he may be good and we all understand that but get off your knees my man and have some self respet
the ice box
06-11-2007, 06:08 PM
how is irish camp looking? whos the guys that will make the team at each position? attack midfield and D?
cmriocsdsse09
06-11-2007, 06:26 PM
turnuva...theodoro isnt that great trust me...hes gonna get alot better in his next 3 years but he didnt do a lot this year. he wont ever be like a jono hiemenz or drew koenoman i can tell you that
TURNUVA
06-11-2007, 08:01 PM
he might not be that great yet... but he has the potential to be. He is a coaches player.
Hopkins loved his work ethic and attitude.Why would he be the only freshman to make Varsity if he wasn't good? He got a fair amount of PT on Koenemans line.
POCK3Ts
06-11-2007, 08:41 PM
yeah but the thing is hopkins is gone so he will have to earn his time now
fenderstrat3578
06-11-2007, 09:19 PM
he might not be that great yet... but he has the potential to be. He is a coaches player.
Hopkins loved his work ethic and attitude.Why would he be the only freshman to make Varsity if he wasn't good? He got a fair amount of PT on Koenemans line.
he wasn't, bryce potter was another freshman who was full time varsity. Clearly you are him. No, nobody saw him at irish, because, not many people do irish. you are being so rediculous, there are better freshman in the area, and players who have way more potential, and people to look forward to who ARENT nick theodoro. talk about something else
cdslax
06-11-2007, 09:33 PM
TURNUVA is obviously Nick. He knows everything about him. If you are not Nick then wat is your name TurnUVA and who do u play for?
cdslax
06-11-2007, 09:34 PM
TURNUVA is obviously Nick. He knows everything about him. If you are not Nick then wat is your name TurnUVA and who do u play for?
HawkletLax
06-12-2007, 12:31 AM
theres were 2 freshmen at rockhurst on varsity...thats harder to do than make varsity on micds(i think thats where turnuva goes right?) since rock was better than them this year.
plus i am sure there are a lot of others. ive been reading this board for awhile and turnuva always tries to bring that kid up, coincidence? i think not..
QPLax11
06-12-2007, 12:56 AM
it depends on the team, but playing varisty as a freshman isnt much to brag about. unless you make all conference or state as a freshman, NO ONE CARES.
CBCLAX13
06-12-2007, 01:04 AM
This is probabally why CBC doesn't let freshman on Varsity, and can only go up to JV... because then they will run their mouths and think they are goin D1
MOLax08
06-12-2007, 10:18 PM
ok so back to the point; who are the best players from this Irish Elite Camp at AB Soccer Park?:
1. attack
2. mids
3. d-poles
4. 'tenders
MOLax08
06-12-2007, 10:20 PM
ok so back to the subject. who are the best players from this irish elite camp?
starting with:
attack
mids
defense
goalies
the ice box
06-12-2007, 10:38 PM
maybe like the top 5-10 attack middies and poles.. then goalies just say whose the best
hurst022
06-12-2007, 11:06 PM
on teams 6 (team im on) id have to say keegan ( PWC) and mike (sluh) are some of the better long poles at the camp..
cmriocsdsse09
06-13-2007, 01:51 PM
he might not be that great yet... but he has the potential to be. He is a coaches player.
Hopkins loved his work ethic and attitude.Why would he be the only freshman to make Varsity if he wasn't good? He got a fair amount of PT on Koenemans line.
first of all, theodoro never tried his hardest. he always jogged through drills and stuff. he never tried to learn the defenses and offenses. he wasnt coachable at all, coach would always tell him to put his shot on the ground and he never did, he was a showboat. and second of all everybody got pt on koenemans line, all middie. we only started the game in certain lines, but during the game he just put people in as they needed.
fenderstrat3578
06-13-2007, 02:40 PM
leave it alone, hes a freshman, and wasn't a particularly important player in the grand scheme of the season for anybody. calm down and stop talking about him
fenderstrat3578
06-13-2007, 02:41 PM
nobody cares at all about him so lets leave it alone
MOLax08
06-13-2007, 06:09 PM
so who all made it on the ALL-STAR team going to Notre Dame?
the ice box
06-13-2007, 09:21 PM
rockhurst any good this year?
hurst022
06-13-2007, 10:26 PM
me and jeff D are the goalies....
the ice box
06-13-2007, 11:10 PM
hurst... your the hickman goalie right?
TURNUVA
06-14-2007, 12:48 AM
first of all, theodoro never tried his hardest. he always jogged through drills and stuff. he never tried to learn the defenses and offenses. he wasnt coachable at all, coach would always tell him to put his shot on the ground and he never did, he was a showboat. and second of all everybody got pt on koenemans line, all middie. we only started the game in certain lines, but during the game he just put people in as they needed.
Just wondering if he was so bad how he made varsity and got more PT than some seniors. His stats were better than Rapp and Saltman so guess he was ok?
fenderstrat3578
06-14-2007, 12:55 AM
really, Theodoro's 9 points were better than Zach Saltman's 35 points? don't be an idiot. Oh yeah, rapp and salty drew the better d-mids every time too, so keep that in mind. Also, rapp is a d-middie, and he is highly regarded for his outstanding defense and huge hits, i didnt see anything defensively special out of theodoro, or offensively for that matter.
I make a motion that we stop talking about theodoro, what's the point, turnuva is obviously him and hes just writing about himself. SHUT UP. nobody cares
HawkletLax
06-14-2007, 12:56 AM
Just wondering if he was so bad how he made varsity and got more PT than some seniors. His stats were better than Rapp and Saltman so guess he was ok?
dude thanks for proving his point about having a big ego... :thumbsdow
hurst022
06-14-2007, 01:22 AM
yea man im the hickman goalie (the ice box).....and TURNUVA please stop building yourself up, its not impressive, respect is gained by the humblest of talented...not the loudest. so if you can continue to grow and learn about the sport and shrink your head you will be a good player, but until then, you will be disliked and disregarded as a quality player...
MOLax08
06-14-2007, 01:36 AM
hurst hit that perfectly
the ones who brag and open their mouths the most are usually ones who fail in the long run b/c their heads get too big to carry. I've seen it before.
CBC_Lax
06-14-2007, 10:49 AM
Did any one think that the all-star game at Irish was kind of a joke? Like there where kid who deserved to be in the game and weren’t, and kids in that were game who didn't deserve it?
Lax'N'Roll
06-14-2007, 06:13 PM
Turnuva, a little advice stop talking garbage!
Nobody else is so just chill out, your just losing respect
LAXAF
06-14-2007, 09:50 PM
I thought the all star game was a joke because how kids were picked. It was all based on how much the coaches liked you. It was all politics. Not that i thought i should have been in it.
stllaxer
06-14-2007, 09:58 PM
im sick of kids *****ing about things being politics, like all american. This year ive heard a ton of kids whining about how the all americans were selected. even thought the system migtht be flawed, this year im pretty sure that the right guys got picked.
now i don't know about this irish all star game, but how about you stop whining. you proably blow and thats why you werent selected
QPLax11
06-15-2007, 01:18 AM
idk, a lot of it is politics. a guy on our team was named 2nd team all conference, even though he had 2nd best stats in our conference, behind kevin looby. and he didnt have an attitude, and got only a few penalties all season, maybe 2. its not like only 1 person from each position is selected for that team, he shouldve made 1st team. and why didnt he? cuz of politics.
wolfie8914
06-15-2007, 01:37 AM
Yes, there are plenty of politics in Missouri lacrosse. No, that's not going to change. Get over it. If you don't go to a big name school, you have to work hard to get noticed. Complaining does nothing.
hurst022
06-15-2007, 01:46 AM
try hard...bust ***...youll get your piece of the pie....it may take more to get looks from colleges but youll be recognized around the state....
TURNUVA
06-15-2007, 08:47 AM
Why would you comment about the Irish All Star game being a joke?
Not everything is political, those coaches have no reason to be that way at a camp/
HawkletLax
06-15-2007, 12:13 PM
hey boys i just noticed we are the second most viewed high school thread.
i thought that was pretty sweet
stllaxer
06-15-2007, 03:16 PM
idk, a lot of it is politics. a guy on our team was named 2nd team all conference, even though he had 2nd best stats in our conference, behind kevin looby. and he didnt have an attitude, and got only a few penalties all season, maybe 2. its not like only 1 person from each position is selected for that team, he shouldve made 1st team. and why didnt he? cuz of politics.
stats are not everything. If you are in the same conference as rockhurst, then there is probably a pretty good reason your player did not get picked-there are other guys who are better overall players. Just because your the best player on a bad team, you are not automatically better than the 4th best player at the position on a good team. just something to think about
hawkletlax-who really cares?