Minnesota '07 Season Thread, Con't.

[d-pole01]

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/scorecard/faces/2007/06/04/
thanks mom with the picture and also check out the video, its pretty sweet.

[mnlax9]

so there is a u17 yeti.
i know you have to be invited to tryout
anyone know what time tryouts are

[senorlax17]

They're June 6th somewhere. Don't know what time either.

[slidearly27]

a bunch of guys on our team are goin to upstate 150. four of us went to it last season and it was awesome, travis tarr wuz there- 2005 d2 player of the year. judd lattimore- top asst at north carolina, and the guy that runs it was a all american at clarkson. :thumbsup:

[LightLaxMid15]

when does the summer league in rosemount start, and what teams are playing in that league?

[fx2lax1]

a bunch of guys on our team are goin to upstate 150. four of us went to it last season and it was awesome, travis tarr wuz there- 2005 d2 player of the year. judd lattimore- top asst at north carolina, and the guy that runs it was a all american at clarkson. :thumbsup:


Yea, I went there last two years. Lots of guys from my team ( eagan) Ev and AV were there to. Our coach said itsone of the better camps, only problem is it only takes 150 guys so it fills up early . are you from Lv AV or EV slidearly?

[mnlax4life]

Who is playing at the Laxtravaganza on the 9th? Is it the all state teams?

[mvgoalie]

One of the defensemen from lakeville on the loons says he's playing in the all-star game otherwise haven't seen a roster yet

[MNlaxer17]

Ya upstate is definatly worth going to. Travis Tarr goes and alot of other great coaches. One of the returning coaches just went as the number 2 overall middie in the MLL draft.
Also last year the coach from UMD showed up for a day to check it out.
But like he said it fills fast so check it out now if you want to get in.

[mnlaxer00]

i heard there are no seniors in the allstar game

[MNlaxer17]

This is what i got on the All-Star Game on saturday


Hello,

If you are receiving this email you (or your son) have been invited to play in the So/Jr. All-Star Game this Saturday at Laxtravaganza. Congrats on your nomination and selection, it is a great reward for your hard work throughout the year.

The game will be at 3:30 at Holy Angels. We are still working out the details of game format but please bring either a reversible jersey OR light and dark jerseys for the game. You are NOT allowed to wear regulation High School jerseys (eg. the jersey you wore during the season).

Please be at Holy Angels at least 1/2 hour before the game so we can get a little warm up before the game and not take up game time.

Contact me ASAP if you are unable to make the game. We have quite a few players and we will make every effort to get players equal playing time.

Thanks again for all your hard work. Coach Visich and I hope to see you on Saturday. I will continue to send out emails as necessary with information.

-- Coach Crane

[JollyRogerPt2]

SO, impressions on "laxstravaganza"?

[MNlaxer17]

I thought it was good with alot of talent but the person who ran it should have had water and at least had balls. We played with our own.

The loons leave for vail on saturday. Is the yeti or the elite going there to?

[MGLAX]

The chill is going too.

[senorlax17]

Neither the Yeti nor the Elite are going. Elite leaves for Denver this weekend, Yeti leaves for Chicago next weekend.

[AHA lax5]

Elite leaves for Denver early friday morning...then after that I get to make the hike up to Vail...staying and playing lacrosse for 8 days in Colorado, doesnt bother me

[BSM24]

Elite leaves for Denver early friday morning...then after that I get to make the hike up to Vail...staying and playing lacrosse for 8 days in Colorado, doesnt bother me
I did that last year. I was exhausted, and could hardly run once I got to vail

[senorlax17]

But you have to be pretty aclimatized when you get to Vail though, right? Like you should be able breathe easier... I would think.

[AHA lax5]

But you have to be pretty aclimatized when you get to Vail though, right? Like you should be able breathe easier... I would think.

Actually, I believe Vail is actually higher in altitude since it is in the mountains...thus making it harder to breathe in Vail then in Denver...

[BSM24]

I'm not sure about any of that. All I remember was that it was about 95 degrees in Denver everyday, and about 90 in Vail. I was dead.

[JollyRogerPt2]

Camps and Club Team Season.

Anyone want to share their opinions of camps/club teams in the Minnesota area?

1. Do you think they help you become a better player or are better players developed at home practicing in the back yard/school yard/wall and in the weight room?

2. Does the club team coaching meet your expectations? If not, what could be done to change it - be specific.

3. What camps have a bad reputation and why?

4. What club teams have a bad reputation and why?

Discuss.....

[mnlax4life]

Does anyone know the roster for the elite team and what camps they are doing?

[senorlax17]

Does anyone know the roster for the elite team and what camps they are doing?

I don't know everyone on the roster, but I do know there are 28 kids on the team, and they just got back from the Denver team camp (don't know how they did), and they're going to Hobart and Hotbeds as well later in the summer.

Also, who all is playing in the Junior Gold league tomorrow night?

[mtka lax]

Minnetonka only had a couple seniors, and a lot of their starters were sophomores.

Does anyone know how many were invited to try out for elite?

Sophomore Attackmen Sean Folley and Matt Wyer both got invited and made it. I’m not sure about sophomore middie Charles Earl-Hansen though. I’ll get back to you on that one.

[AHA lax5]

I dont know who Charles is but he didnt make the team...

[bwlacrosse3]

is chaska any good? my cousin goes there

[mnlax4life]

I know the summer league has started up at Blake, who are some of the better players playing in it from each of the teams?

[LightLaxMid15]

No chaska doesn't have a very good team, from what i remember they were not fast or big, and only had one good player that was all left.

[vee159]

Is armstrong really that high?
I was gonna go to that school, but What ever happened to Cooper Lacrosse?

[mnlax9]

wat happen to this thread

[centlax21]

well the season is over and i guess there really is nothing of notice going on. The only news is a couple recruiting things but i think most people in the know already know about it, and if you dont know its not hard to go through the grape vine

[senorlax17]

I guess we could talk about the different summer leagues?
I know there are like 2 or 3 going on right now.
The one I'm in (Breck) is the Junior Gold League at Blake middle school. The semis and championship are next monday.
I know there's a league for the more northern teams (whitebear lake, mahtomedi, centennial, etc.) or something like that.
I would guess there was one for more southern teams, like eastview, apple valley, and eagan, but I don't know for sure.
Anybody got information on the other leagues?

[mnlax9]

ya theres one for ev apple valley and eagan at rosemount. theres no playoffs its just show up and practice for an hour and play. not to serious at all.. lotta fights

[d-pole01]

the mounds view summer league isnt anything special, its just a bunch of JV kids but i was wondering how elite did this summer, i didnt hear anything about them so far

[MNlaxer17]

Minnesota Lax Loons-8
Minnesota Yeti-5
I'm not sure if the Elite are playing the loons

[MNlaxer17]

Oh ya the loons good goalie wasn't playing either he broke his finger playing football and the goalie that played was much weaker than him

[mvgoalie]

the doctor said i will be able to play after i get it casted. who was the other goalie

[JollyRogerPt2]

Elite went about .500 at Hotbeds - missing result of last day

[AHA lax5]

Yea we went .500, 6 wins and 6 loses. We struggled a little bit at HotBeds, we were real tired. But we also came straight from the Hobart Brine Team Challenge, which we won that tourney, so 17 games in 6 days is rough.

[mnlax9]

the doctor said i will be able to play after i get it casted. who was the other goalie

justin williams from eagan.

[mvgoalie]

Are you kidding me? you gotta lock it up turner

[AHA lax5]

Easy Davitt, you better lock it up for breaking your thumb, thats weak sauce son. I bet you guys missed me for the yeti scrimmage huh?

[mvgoalie]

it was actually my middle finger and i guess we manhandled the yeti so i dont think we needed you too bad. you still thinking about going to c.w.

[AHA lax5]

O, well there goes your opportunity to flick people off I guess...yea I am, I still have to talk to their coach some more...

[ItalyLaxer11]

Hey ya'll, my school in Atlanta, Ga just got this new coach from minnesota, he's supposed to be the "savior" of our terrible program, his names Nick Weil, Anyone ever heard of him?

[AHA lax5]

Nick Weil...hmm...never heard of him...did he say where he went to college or where he use to coach or anything?

[ItalyLaxer11]

Nick Weil...hmm...never heard of him...did he say where he went to college or where he use to coach or anything?

No, I haven't met him yet, but I know he's from minnesota and a couple of the guys said he came from some amazing school, and that my school paid him a ridiculous salary to leave and come to our school,,but otherwise,idk

[WanderingLaxer]

No chaska doesn't have a very good team, from what i remember they were not fast or big, and only had one good player that was all left.

We lost a lot of our seniors after 06 not to mention we had a terrible game schedule this past (07) season...

[JollyRogerPt2]

Nick Weil is NOT a savior. He was the Cooper Head Coach years ago - he had a few years of succes, but that was on the back of some unique players. He teaches a 3-3 zone that most good stickhandling offenses can destroy. OFfensively, he is decades behind the times.

He comes from Long Island.

Ask him if he ever was suspended from coaching while at cooper (and why if the answer is yes...) and ask the specifics on why he seperated from the program.

[ItalyLaxer11]

Nick Weil is NOT a savior. He was the Cooper Head Coach years ago - he had a few years of succes, but that was on the back of some unique players. He teaches a 3-3 zone that most good stickhandling offenses can destroy. OFfensively, he is decades behind the times.

He comes from Long Island.

Ask him if he ever was suspended from coaching while at cooper (and why if the answer is yes...) and ask the specifics on why he seperated from the program.

O, great, but rather then having me ask, do you mind sharing why he was suspended, and why he separated, I'd rather here from you not him. Thanks

[JollyRogerPt2]

Unfortunately, I do not feel comfortable propigating rumors about those things on a public site, as I do not have first hand knowledge about them. But the two questions I pose are relevent, and reasonable to ask any new hire. IN this case, I would suggest that the answers be checked with people from the Cooper Lacrosse Program, and any other program he had subsequent involvement.

[ItalyLaxer11]

Unfortunately, I do not feel comfortable propigating rumors about those things on a public site, as I do not have first hand knowledge about them. But the two questions I pose are relevent, and reasonable to ask any new hire. IN this case, I would suggest that the answers be checked with people from the Cooper Lacrosse Program, and any other program he had subsequent involvement.

Alright thanks anyways, just hope this guy helps our program on some levels.

[JollyRogerPt2]

I do not believe he will. Good luck.

[mvgoalie]

Mounds View is now officially varsity status!!!!!!!!!!

[AHA lax5]

Thats great...have fun getting destroyed by all the big boys

[mnlax9]

Thats great...have fun getting destroyed by all the big boys


haha you tell him turner

[AHA lax5]

haha you tell him turner

Haha do work son, 22's

[mvgoalie]

Turner you will be lucky if you even get a goal on me if we play you. madsen gets us all the fo's and you'll never get the ball and even if you do your shot is weak sauce son and i'll stuff you all day!!

[AHA lax5]

Turner you will be lucky if you even get a goal on me if we play you. madsen gets us all the fo's and you'll never get the ball and even if you do your shot is weak sauce son and i'll stuff you all day!!

False statement

[mnlaxer00]

http://www.westsidelax.com/ did anyone see this and when did this happen

[JollyRogerPt2]

Most of last years HS Seniors have left for college, or are leaving soon.

TO all of them, whether going to Mankato State, RPI, RIT, Wheeling Jesuit, Fairfield, Duluth, Tri-State, Fontbonne, Minnesota, Marquette, Kenyon, St. Johns (Ny or Collegevile), St. Thomas, or anywhere in between, a hearty wish of luck for your freshmen year - may you all make the teams for which you try-out!!!

[mnlax9]

False statement



agreed........

[AHA lax5]

So with all the seniors from last year gone off to college...who do you think will be the top/best rising seniors for next year?

[mnlax9]

So with all the seniors from last year gone off to college...who do you think will be the top/best rising seniors for next year?



umm this one kid from aha, number 5 i think.


all of his game comes from the flow

[mvgoalie]

Top Seniors for Next season:

Attack: Kip Dooly

Midfield: Tie between Turner and Mac

Defense: Nate Kakov

Goalie: Ryan Freeman of course

[mnlax9]

Top Seniors for Next season:

Attack: Kip Dooly

Midfield: Tie between Turner and Mac

Defense: Nate Kakov

Goalie: Ryan Freeman of course



im guessin your ryan freeman..

if you are we have the same last name

[AHA lax5]

im guessin your ryan freeman..

if you are we have the same last name

No he's actually Kyle Davitt...Freeman plays for Stillwater, Davitt plays for MV.

ATTACK
Dooley-Blake
Jones-EP
Roberts-Edina
MIDFIELD
Seivold-Blake
Hewitt-EP
DEFENSE
Johnson-Blake
Katkov-Edina
Straus-Jefferson
GOALIE
Jordan-Anoka
Swanson-EP
Davitt-MV

[ReLaxin 13]

No he's actually Kyle Davitt...Freeman plays for Stillwater, Davitt plays for MV.

....
Davitt-MV


Dav's? We had to take him out of goal for half of our box games last year and put me in.:bye:

[AHA lax5]

Well that is box games...
Plus throw a solid D in front of him and he will be a pretty solid tender...

[ReLaxin 13]

It was a joke. We're buddies. I know he's a great goalie.

[AHA lax5]

Ok got it...my bad

[AHA lax5]

So does anyone have opinions on next years top seniors?

Or any recruiting news?....

Obviously Dooley committed to Dartmouth, but thats all I know of....

[d-pole01]

i heard some news about some guys and c.w post? other than that, i've heard nothing

[senorlax17]

Turner, I like your picks for the rising seniors, even though it is pretty much just the Elite roster from the past year. I think Tom Villandra will be the best LSM if Peter Johnson plays close. Best attack is definitely Dooley, best middie is probably Seivold, and best goalie is definitely MJ (Michael Jordan).
Which teams had the most seniors graduate from last year (so they will struggle this year) or who had the least (and will do good this year)?

[AHA lax5]

Yea I agree Tommy V is a sick LSM. I was just thinking that Blake could POSSIBLY have the best players at every position except goalie next year. Dooley, Seivold, and Johnson obviously.
And for losing the most seniors, I know Prior Lake lost 23 or so seniors last year...so ahh...they might be a whole different team next year. Emphasis on whole.

[mnlax9]

Turner, I like your picks for the rising seniors, even though it is pretty much just the Elite roster from the past year. I think Tom Villandra will be the best LSM if Peter Johnson plays close. Best attack is definitely Dooley, best middie is probably Seivold, and best goalie is definitely MJ (Michael Jordan).
Which teams had the most seniors graduate from last year (so they will struggle this year) or who had the least (and will do good this year)?

you played on yeti, right?

[mvgoalie]

Turner, I like your picks for the rising seniors, even though it is pretty much just the Elite roster from the past year. I think Tom Villandra will be the best LSM if Peter Johnson plays close. Best attack is definitely Dooley, best middie is probably Seivold, and best goalie is definitely MJ (Michael Jordan).
Which teams had the most seniors graduate from last year (so they will struggle this year) or who had the least (and will do good this year)?

Benilde is definately going to suck this year because they lost EVERYONE that impacted their season last year

[AHA lax5]

Benilde is definately going to suck this year because they lost EVERYONE that impacted their season last year

They have one player that is returning that played in the championship game...they will definatly be a different team.

[anklebreakerMN]

They have one player that is returning that played in the championship game...they will definatly be a different team.

I like your opinion much better than that of the MV Goalie....and though they did lose a lot of starters....they didnt lose that many at the midfield - only 3 - so basically one of the 3 lines....they return one starting defenseman, and a good goalie as well - lil giligan...they will have to rebuild the attack - plus with a couple of transfers, anything could happen.....

it will be intresting to see if edina is better this year, their goalie was very good as a freshman last year...

[AHA lax5]

Little Giligan and Little Roberts are both great young goalies...they will be the face of the generation next of MN goalies...

[senorlax17]

you played on yeti, right?

Yah I did.

[mnlax12]

watch out for junior benner schleider of ep this year the kid is sick

[senorlax17]

Who here is playin in the hotdish tourny?

[AHA lax5]

I was gonna but I have to go to my cousins wedding in wisconsin same weekend...

[mvgoalie]

Team coon Rapids man we're going to own this year

[d-pole01]

i will be representing rave chiefs at the tourney

[MGLAX]

I'll be playing on the Maple Grove team. Is anyone doing the North Metro Fall League?

[mnlax9]

i will be representing rave chiefs at the tourney

hye man i made that team

[senorlax17]

hye man i made that team

Is that team still goin on? I've heard it's been disbanded...

[Elaxn21]

Hey boys good luck this year! I hope you guys kick some *** and get minnesota lax on the map!

[d-pole01]

rave chiefs is no longer running due to homecoming dance so were making a new team but team name hasnt been named yet

[mnlax12]

They have one player that is returning that played in the championship game...they will definatly be a different team.

They have 2 that I know of Mark Muston and Stu Neville. They will definiteley be a different team. Im predicting a Blake-EP final, possibly Minnetonka instead of EP. Can't wait for the season to start.

[mnlax9]

i spoke with the tournament director and he said he would make sure we would be done by 130

[senorlax17]

i spoke with the tournament director and he said he would make sure we would be done by 130

Who was this aimed at?

[LightLaxMid15]

Who was this aimed at?

It was aimed at d-pole01. D-pole and mnlax9 if the chiefs need middies I can get some, all it takes is a call. We should meet up this week end at Dakota Lax and see if we cant get this team together.

[mvgoalie]

senorlax are you going to be on the yeti team at the hotdish with us

[d-pole01]

It was aimed at d-pole01. D-pole and mnlax9 if the chiefs need middies I can get some, all it takes is a call. We should meet up this week end at Dakota Lax and see if we cant get this team together.

sorry man, i got my team all together for the tourney, mvgoalie, you playing for us (yeti)?

[mvgoalie]

sorry man, i got my team all together for the tourney, mvgoalie, you playing for us (yeti)?[/QUOTE]

I think so Gabs told me you guys need a goalie so i guess i am but it is the same weekend of our homecoming too.

[anklebreakerMN]

how was the hotdish????? and great play?? any players set themselves above the others???? anything cool happen????

[JollyRogerPt2]

#600 woo hoo!

[d-pole01]

hotdish was alot of fun. anyone know who won the mens A and B division?

[anklebreakerMN]

minnesota lakers won the a vs. madision in OT, not sure about the B though

[BSM24]

So there is a rumor floating around that my dear old coach Rob Horn has accepted the coaching job at Blake. Anyone know the story???

[d-pole01]

ask relaxin, he goes to blake but seivold coaches there and i know hes gotta be atleast one of the top coaches in mn but who knows. what are the laker colors, im trying to remember

[AHA lax5]

ask relaxin, he goes to blake but seivold coaches there and i know hes gotta be atleast one of the top coaches in mn but who knows. what are the laker colors, im trying to remember

they are baby clue and dark blue and white

[JollyRogerPt2]

MSHSL has approved the "third coach on the official roster" proposal.

The MSHSL did not pass the additional 4 players to the official roster. The offical player roster will remain at 24 for SECTION and STATE tournaments.

[d-pole01]

they are baby clue and dark blue and white

oh gotcha ha kinda feel stupid cause i watched them a few times

[BSM24]

Well it is official. Rob Horn, formally head coach of the 07' state champion BSM Red Knights is now the HEAD coach of the Blake Bears. Wow, what a world we live in.

[mvgoalie]

How and Why did that happen????????????

[AHA lax5]

Well...interesting...what ha-happened to Seivold? Retired? Assistant?

[d-pole01]

i believe i heard assistant? is anyone else playing in the 4 on 4 tournament this saturday?

[mnlax9]

i believe i heard assistant? is anyone else playing in the 4 on 4 tournament this saturday?

i belive i am .

[AHA lax5]

i believe i heard assistant? is anyone else playing in the 4 on 4 tournament this saturday?

Looks like this will be the second tournament I will miss because of a college visit...

[senorlax17]

what 4 on 4 tournament is this you guys speak of and where is it?

[d-pole01]

what 4 on 4 tournament is this you guys speak of and where is it?

its at eagle ridge jr. high school this saturday and check in is at 12:30 i think, its just saturday and if i find out more about it, i will update it but 4 field players, goalies will be provided

[AHA lax5]

4 v. 4 tourney
Eagle Ridge Jr. High in Burnsville
No long poles
Goalies assigned to teams, determined on average goals i think.
1 day long tourney
starts at noon i believe
if rained out, next day

[wilsontopowell]

how do you sign up for this or do you just show up?

[d-pole01]

how do you sign up for this or do you just show up?

i believe you just show up and play, if anyone sees a team wtih yeti jerseys, thats my team and i'll probably have high white socks on so if you wanna talk come on over

[AHA lax5]

no you dont just show up and play....click here:
http://www.burnsvillelax.com/

its the second article down, if you win you DID have a chance at winning swarm tickets, but since the NLL is on stirke I guess thats not happenin...

its also sponsored by Frost Lacrosse...going to be a new U-16 team I believe this year(summer)

[AHA lax5]

Well the tourney got canceled anyways...possibly being put on again during christmas time...

[d-pole01]

this sucks, well atleast i get to go hunting now

[mnlax9]

this sucks, well atleast i get to go hunting now



Bow Hunting!!??

[peteypanger]

alrighty heres some stuff for ya. i used to play for nick weil while at cooper. he was a crazy coach that was behind his time, yet he still knew how to play the game. he played a diamond defense zone that a recruited old players as assistants to modify his style. while he was coach it was not a high school sport, so he was never paid that much. his first few years he actually coached for free. and yeah he did get suspended ha like i said he was crazy

[MNlaxer17]

To what AHAlax asked awhile ago about next rising stars i have a few.
Turner and Mack for holy angels, they both are extremely talented. I heard Turner is getting looked at by CW
Davitt from MV. He is probably the best goalie in the state right now. Hofstad from lakeville is the only other goalie i have herad about that has real talent.
Jacobson from MV is also extremely good.
Pretty much the entire starting line from Centenial should be watched.
Katkov and AJ from Edina
Kip Dooley- do i even have to say anthing.

[mvgoalie]

Don't forget about Swanson from ep and MJ from anoka. but I don't think anoka is going to be varsity this year so he will pretty much get shutouts in at least 50% of his games. I also heard Sergio from wayzata is a solid keeper.

[d-pole01]

goalie situation from both being from yeti- hofstad very solid goalie, showed alot of potential in chicago but got hurt so he didnt go to notre dame. serg is moving to pensylvania so wayzata loses him but he got hot at the end of the summer and hes sold.

also, does anyone know what the conferences are or sections are going to be.

all i've heard from us (centennial) is that we have mahtomedi and mounds view and thats about it

[AHA lax5]

Rumor has it that there is an all private school confrence. Ex. AHA, Blake, Breck, BSM, TG, Hill? STA?

O, and I'm not talking to C.W. Post....

[senorlax17]

Rumor has it that there is an all private school confrence. Ex. AHA, Blake, Breck, BSM, TG, Hill? STA?

I heard the same thing, but that was a while ago and I haven't heard anything about it since so I wouldn't believe it 100% right now.

[AHA lax5]

I heard the same thing, but that was a while ago and I haven't heard anything about it since so I wouldn't believe it 100% right now.

Well my coach said its happening and Hoban the head coach at TG said its happening...so I believe its the real deal.

[anklebreakerMN]

Well my coach said its happening and Hoban the head coach at TG said its happening...so I believe its the real deal.

there is a new confrence of BSM, Blake, TG, AHA, and Breck....

apparently each school will play each other twice...

[AHA lax5]

there is a new confrence of BSM, Blake, TG, AHA, and Breck....

apparently each school will play each other twice...

Yea each team will play eachother twice..like a home in home series( one game at your home field and one game at their home field ).

Another thing Hoban said is that eventually there will be a trohpy handed out to the team that wins that all-private confrence. Kinda sweet eh

[d-pole01]

Yea each team will play eachother twice..like a home in home series( one game at your home field and one game at their home field ).

Another thing Hoban said is that eventually there will be a trohpy handed out to the team that wins that all-private confrence. Kinda sweet eh

ya you should put a big piece of cake on it...haha sorry couldnt help myself but that sounds like that will be the toughest conference to get to state through, anyone know the other 2 conferences will look like?

[senorlax17]

That's just a conference, not a section. I think that the winner of that conference will be a contender for the title, but there are just as many good public school teams as private these days. The days of private school domination in MN lacrosse are coming to an end as the public schools start bringing up hundreds of kids from their youth programs. In the future, teams like EP, Edina, and Wayzata will be power houses because their giant talent pool will just overpower any private school's shallow talent pool.
Regardless, I'm was still curious about if what I read on here is true: that Seivold won't be Blake's head coach anymore, but instead the head coach from Benilde from last year?

[JollyRogerPt2]

1> Rob Horn is the Blake Head Coach. He was (on paper) an assistant, and paid as one, irrespective of his role on the field (which I know was shared-head with Coach Mulcahy). This change does not surprise me - when one is pursued for a promotion at a quality program, it is not a bad thing to accept the promotion and leave. Good programs lose assistants to Head positions all the time (see Patriots loss of Mangini/Crennell and multiple other situations)

2. Pub v. Priv. Interesting to see all the Privates toghether - I wonder if it is a first step to the MSHSL segregating ALL private schools from public in all sports -- something done in many other states.

3. Your thought that the public schools will overpower the privates is interesing, but I'm not sure it is necessarily true. So long as the wealthy communities continue to develop lacrosse, a number of very good players will leave those communnities go to private high schools for reasons other than (or perhaps because of a school's success at) sports. As examples - look at the home communities for many of the current private school players - you'll see many from Wayzata, EP and Edina - and then ask why that would change in the future?

[BSM24]

Hey, just out of curiosity, do any of the seniors this year know where you are going next year for lax, or what schools you are looking at?

[anklebreakerMN]

2. Pub v. Priv. Interesting to see all the Privates toghether - I wonder if it is a first step to the MSHSL segregating ALL private schools from public in all sports -- something done in many other states.

3. Your thought that the public schools will overpower the privates is interesing, but I'm not sure it is necessarily true. So long as the wealthy communities continue to develop lacrosse, a number of very good players will leave those communnities go to private high schools for reasons other than (or perhaps because of a school's success at) sports. As examples - look at the home communities for many of the current private school players - you'll see many from Wayzata, EP and Edina - and then ask why that would change in the future?

I agree with this stance, as with more traditional hotbeds (NY, MD, PA)...its the private schools that tend to dominate, no matter what the numbers might say. Also, one thing to keep in mind - it doesnt matter how many numbers, or how large your prospective talent pool might be if the coaches involved cant put it together....

Look at the staffs for the majority of the private schools just in that newly formed confrence, most have them have been in place for at least 3 years - and they are usually some of the premier teams in the state. If those traditions continue, they will continue to attact the type of players that want to play in successful programs with solid staff. I know EP is a great example of a dominant program with a dominant feeder program, however, they have had 3 different HC and systems within the past 4 years...yes they have been successful, and will continue to be, but with change always looming - that might have an effect on a parent deciding to send their child to Breck or TG for example. Whether or not we admit it, a lot parents want their children to have a chance to be successful in the classroom and in the atheletic arena if at all possible (we tend to see this a lot more with hockey in MN than with lacrosse right now).

It will be intresting to see how the state will change further on down the road, espically with new teams going to varsity status, it might only be a matter of time before we have a Class A, and AA State tourney...(but probaly at least 3 years away).

[AHA lax5]

I talked to Kip who is at Blake obviously. He said the reason why Rob Horn was hired to be the "head" coach at Blake is only because Seivold is too busy. Kip said that with Seivold running the whole youth/middle school program he can rarely make it to practice for them. So Horn is basically coming in to cover practice and I almost want to say be a chaperone. But on game days, Seivold with be the main man and will be the head coach. Also, he said that after this year, Seivold will have no more kids going through the program and could possibly hang up the high school gig and just stick to the youth program and Elite? Who knows...

As for the public schools being better then private, its possible. Youth programs are going to decide mostly who will be the power house for the next 10 years I'd say. For example, we, AHA, don't have a youth program. So we are basically starting from stratch every year and going around school trying to get more kids interested in coming out for the team. It helps when kids come into the high school program having experience and even some chemistry with kids. The more kids with experience, the better chance you have at winning...

[anklebreakerMN]

I talked to Kip who is at Blake obviously. He said the reason why Rob Horn was hired to be the "head" coach at Blake is only because Seivold is too busy. Kip said that with Seivold running the whole youth/middle school program he can rarely make it to practice for them. So Horn is basically coming in to cover practice and I almost want to say be a chaperone. But on game days, Seivold with be the main man and will be the head coach. Also, he said that after this year, Seivold will have no more kids going through the program and could possibly hang up the high school gig and just stick to the youth program and Elite? Who knows...

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can we move on now and talk about lacrosse??

[anklebreakerMN]

maybe we should get a new thread started MN 2008???

[AHA lax5]

Wow...after reading this, I went straight to the source to find out what was the deal....I talked with Seivold. He was planning on stepping down at somepoint, and it just so happened that he found a replacement he trusted. Rob will not be a "chaperone", as he is hiring his own staff to field all the programs at Blake -middle school, jv, etc. (not to mention putting in his own systems)...I would be careful in twisting or misintrepreting Kips words in a public forum. Rob will be the head coach on the sidelines, and on gamedays - with Joe assisting him when he can make it- you my friend where sadly misinformed - or you made an dumb assumption based on a very short conversation...either way - you dont hire someone to be a Head Coach, and make it public knowledge (press releases, letters to the parents, etc) if he isnt going to be, but you will figure that out in time. Also, why would he leave a program that he built, won a state championship at, and then take a step down to be a "chaperone"? (that wouldnt be very smart) Rob is a phenomeonal coach, ask the BSM guys.....and probaly the second most qualified coach in the state behind the one he is replacing.

can we move on now and talk about lacrosse??

Hey I'm not saying any of that was 100% truthful. Thats just what Kip told me, and Kip goes to Blake and is very close to Seivold, so I was stating it because he is a pretty reliable source. I didn't "twist or misinterpret" anything that Kip said. We had a lengthy conversation, and I certainly wasn't making any dumb assumptions. Also, just because Horn lead BSM to a state title, does that make him such an amazing coach? I mean ya I'm sure he helped, but look at the line up he was coaching with. The best defense and best attack lines up in the state, anything less then a state championship would have been a let down. I'm not saying he is an awful coach or anything, I'm sure he has potential cause he is young...but with that line up, state championship was destiny.

[JollyRogerPt2]

AHA#5.

1. You note that BSM had "the best defense and best attack lines in the state". But you fail to note that the BSM kids didn't just emigrate from Boys Latin or Sachem - they worked hard and WERE TAUGHT how to play the game over a period of time. Hmmmm I wonder who did the teaching.... Could it be the BSM coaching staff, including Rob Horn.?

2. In the BSM v. EP game, BSM made a critical defensive adjustment - and EP's scoring dropped off dramatically. An adjustment, I'm told, which was made by Coach Horn.

3. Try coaching a team that is "expected" to win a state championship. It's not as easy as throwing the balls out there and winning - a coach has to manage egos, expectations, parents, administrators while battling to keep the team focused and not reading press clippings. BSM's coaching staff - including Coach Horn - did that.

4. Coach Horn assists at UMD, the most successful program in the state. And has played at Wheeling Jesuit and UMD. He has background at multiple levels.

So let's review.
A: The HS team he coached improved over the time he was there to the point where they were the "Best" (using your term).

B: He makes decisive and determinitive in-game adjustments in the biggest game of the year that played a large role in winning the championship.

C: He has experience in coaching teams that have talent and expect to win a championship -at both the college and HS level. Something that is very valuable to a team like Blake - a team with Kip and Jordan.

Name another HS Head Coach that would be willing to move to a new program with that background or any assistant coach in MN with that background - I cannot.

I see every reason why Blake would want to seek out Coach Horn and cement him as a Head Coach now - and I see no reason why Coach Horn would take the position if he was merely a "caretaker"

As someone very interested to see what happens with the BSM program, all I can say is that it was a great hire by a smart athletic department. I also think that IF BSM slips next year because of the absence of the great senior class that left, Coach Mulcahy will get the blame - and I think that would be seriously unfair.

I think the games between AHA and Blake, and Blake and BSM will be great! I expect AHA and Blake to be contenders, along with some others I'll list later.

Let's all move on to the 2008 thread, shall we?