View Full Version : Minnesota '07 Season Thread, Con't.
harey43
04-23-2007, 02:16 PM
here you go
Minnesota Laxer
04-23-2007, 04:41 PM
Doesn't look like Star Tribune or anyone is doing an official ranking. What are the new top 10 rankings? Here are mine:
1) Benilde
2) Armstrong
3) Osseo
4) Minnetonka
5) Jefferson
6) Wayzata
7) Edina
8) Eden Prairie
9) Blake
10) Lakeville
starslax3
04-23-2007, 07:12 PM
eden prairie and blake are 8/9? wut? LAKEVILLE???
mnlax4life
04-23-2007, 08:16 PM
Doesn't look like Star Tribune or anyone is doing an official ranking. What are the new top 10 rankings? Here are mine:
1) Benilde
2) Armstrong
3) Osseo
4) Minnetonka
5) Jefferson
6) Wayzata
7) Edina
8) Eden Prairie
9) Blake
10) Lakeville
Get Armstrong off that list, especially at #2.
LAXMomx3
04-23-2007, 08:37 PM
I've already apologized directly for taking the bait and reacting, but I'd also like to acknowledge publicly that it was good of Harey43 to restart the thread. He could have simply disappeared and yet... Here we are. Well done.
Back to business:
I think BSM is good, but they've probably been tested more in practice than in real games quite yet. And beyond Osseo, do they play any of those "top 10" listed above? Really, it's too bad as it makes it hard to truly give them the credit they may or may not deserve. But I would think they'd like some tougher games as well as I think most teams appreciate a competitive schedule (especially true if they come out on the winning side!!).
So while I may not agree with the rank order, based on results thus far, I do think Laxer made a solid list of the top teams to watch. It's proving to be an interesting season though so far. Here I was thinking Jefferson was really stepping up and then Armstrong has a 11-5 win over them. So I wonder, are they that good? Same thought that I had for lakeville. Armstrong is currently rated #2 in MN Laxpower -- which I really can't figure out the methodolgy of that site. But last year they only lost to Edina, Mtka, and BSM -- and they haven't yet faced that kind of competition yet.. so we'll see how they fare this week -- although I havent a clue who they are playing.
By the end of the week we should have an even better idea, but I have to say.. just from a fan standpoint.. it's nice to see things getting a little mixed up this year in terms of winning and losing. It will only heighten the excitement for post-season play. Don't you think?
Oh.. and originally I though the tourney was going to be at Hopkins, but now I see it's Wayzata HS. Not sure how I feel about that one yet.
dukelax47
04-23-2007, 08:43 PM
tonka scored 7 man up goals on wayzata, tonka is not that good
LAXMomx3
04-23-2007, 09:34 PM
tonka scored 7 man up goals on wayzata, tonka is not that good
Makes sense, EXCEPT... How good can Wayzata be to have 7 man downs that gave MTKA the opportunity in the first place? (just reversing your premise)
Still.. the whole story is never in the final score, this is true. It's not always who is the better team, but who is the better team that day.
BSM24
04-23-2007, 09:52 PM
BSM 13-Mahtomedi 3
And we were man down well over 50% of the game.
LAXMomx3
04-23-2007, 10:05 PM
BSM24... I go back to the orignal thread and my opinion that BSM really ought to get that man-down thing under control, especially if you're in that position 50% of a game! First off, it just looks bad to the sport. But more importantly, when you face-off against EP, Blake or apparently MTKA, all of whom can definitely take advantage of man-downs, BSM will be in big trouble and your bravado might land you on the wrong side of the scoreboard. Just a tip. :-)
BSM24
04-23-2007, 11:04 PM
Well Laxmom3, this was the first game we have had so many calls, majority of which, in my opinion, were poor calls, and we only allowed 2 goals on man down. And we've only had about 6 or 7 total penilties in the first 4 games combined, so don't go making opinions on situations when you don't have all the facts and do not make an opinion on our playing style based on Winter League, because that is absolutely ridiculous.
LAXMomx3
04-23-2007, 11:44 PM
Well Laxmom3, this was the first game we have had so many calls, majority of which, in my opinion, were poor calls, and we only allowed 2 goals on man down. And we've only had about 6 or 7 total penilties in the first 4 games combined, so don't go making opinions on situations when you don't have all the facts and do not make an opinion on our playing style based on Winter League, because that is absolutely ridiculous.
Fair enough. Absolutely. However... I was just responding to the post:
BSM 13-Mahtomedi 3
And we were man down well over 50% of the game.
And it read like you were proud of it. (i.e. Bravado)
BSM24
04-23-2007, 11:51 PM
That is how it is meant to be read. We were able to put up 13 goals on a team which is unheard of because of all the penilties. I wrote it to give alot of credit to our offense for being able to take advantage of the few opportunities we had.
Minnesota Laxer
04-24-2007, 08:04 AM
I assume that EP and Blake will work their way back up in the rankings but i just based my rankings on who beat who so far this season. With the Wayzata loss to Edina last night, I would now move up Edina a little bit and probably drop Wayzata more.
1) Benilde-- Undefeated, Beat everyone by a lot
2) Armstrong-- Undefeated, Crushed Jefferson
3) Osseo-- Undefeated, championship game last year, not sure how good they are this year
4) Minnetonka-- Undefeated, Beat Wayzata
5) Jefferson-- Beat Edina, but lost to Armstrong
6) Wayzata-- Beat EP, lost to Mtka
7) Edina-- Lost to Jefferson, beat AV and Holy Angels. Now just beat Wayzata
8) Eden Prairie-- Lost to Wayzata, beat Blake and Apple Valley
9) Blake-- Lost to EP, beat Breck and Chaska
10) Lakeville-- Just threw these guys in there, thought they were doing okay
LAXMomx3
04-24-2007, 08:12 AM
I was looking at the schedules for this week -- and there should be some shaking out.. but here's my question:
How did Jefferson manage to schedule 13 games??
Minnesota Laxer
04-24-2007, 08:14 AM
Osseo joined the league late and teams got an exception to schedule them as a 13th game this year.
anklebreakerMN
04-24-2007, 08:53 AM
1. Blake - still the scariest team - with the states 2 best players
2. BSM - weak confrence, not their fault, but cant be 1 until beating someone of quality...
3. EP - Upset by Wayzata...should rebound
4. Tonka - youth is providing to be talent as well, gaining steam, goalie in question
5. Armstrong - under the radar, should continue to impress
6. Jefferson - big wins, then big losses, looks like a teter totter year
7. Edina - will the real Edina HS team, please stand up?
8. Osseo - Lost to much, very overatted right now, Krylisis is ok - not nearly as good as advertised
9. Lakeville - youth and great coaching can be a great formula for this season for them...a sleeper to challenge
10. Wayzata - losing players/ and control...what happened to the trojans?
turkeyballa
04-24-2007, 08:58 AM
ep and rahs are two big guns that need a strong 2nd half i think! but to all ep and metro that article on the former ep lax player was good!
AHA lax5
04-24-2007, 10:18 AM
AHA @ Breck tonite at 7:30 if anyone is interested...
Minnesota Laxer
04-24-2007, 02:15 PM
I think these are the 4 key games this week that will really help determine rankings. Blake has a couple games that i think they will win easily. Can you guys think of any others?
Eden Prairie vs. Jefferson- Tonight at Jefferson
Osseo vs. Jefferson- Friday at Osseo
Minnetonka vs. Armstrong- Friday at Minnetonka
Edina vs. Armstrong- Saturday at Armstrong
LAXMomx3
04-24-2007, 04:11 PM
Here's an interesting wrinkle... I looked at both MN LAX's rankings above and LAX Powers' and it becomes pretty clear that 8 out of 10 of those top teams come from sections 5 & 6. Once again affirming my position that the two top teams MAY not face each other in state, but would make sections REALLY interesting!
Oh.. and did you know that Stillwater, Irondale and Mounds View are not sanctioned by their schools and therefore not part of the MSHSL sections, nor are they part of the MBSLA this year either? Given this limbo, and unless they have their own little run off, they won't play any post-season play on either side of the sport (MSHSL vs. MBSLA). Odd for sure and I just kinda feel bad for those three teams.
falconlax1
04-24-2007, 04:23 PM
Armstrong beat Shattuck-St.Mary 11-3
LAXMomx3
04-24-2007, 06:32 PM
I'm kinda starting to feel a little sorry for Shattuck too! Not a good season thus far.
mnlax4life
04-24-2007, 07:02 PM
I believe that the rankings should favor the teams who have not lost yet, even though they may have not played anyone yet. Because they have not been proven any worse than someone else and the W is all that matters. The way the teams should be ranked is alot different right now. The undefeated teams left are BSM, Minnetonka, Osseo, White Bear, Armstrong, HM, Maple Grove, and Rochester. Although some of these teams are not the best and will lose soon, they should have some credit for being undefeated.
mnlax4life
04-24-2007, 07:45 PM
We also are focusing on the rankings so much we forget that they don't even matter (although they are a nice way to make comparisions). What really matters are the section assignments, which the section winners go to state for a final four. Here are the sections and what two teams I think have a chance of winning it.
3- Lakeville, Apple Valley (weakest section)
4- Osseo, Centennial (2nd weakest)
5- BSM, Blake (best section)
6- Eden Prarie, Minnetonka (2nd best section)
BSM24
04-24-2007, 08:07 PM
we (BSM) play Hill-Murray(Undefeated) on Thursday, Totino on Friday, and Osseo(Undefeated) on Monday
CougarLax07
04-24-2007, 09:06 PM
we (BSM) play Hill-Murray(Undefeated) on Thursday, Totino on Friday, and Osseo(Undefeated) on Monday
ya i dont think you guys will have much of a problem... i dont know how good hill is this year but totino is struggling as of late and it doesnt sound like van horne is scoring many goals and osseo is decent they beat us in overtime our first game of the year but many of their goals were against our 2nd or 2rd midfield lines so basically with your attack and defense you should score a decent amount while keeping them to a few... how is bacon doing this year
BSM24
04-24-2007, 09:17 PM
He is doing really well actually. Really he has stopped almost everything, and one of the goals that Mahtomedi scored on us yesterday deflected square off my back and in the net, left a nice welt too. How's your team doing?
mvgoalie
04-24-2007, 10:10 PM
Mounds View is 3-0 and we play Southwest on friday anyone know if they're good or not.
E612Lax
04-24-2007, 10:42 PM
Southwest = Minneapolis
LAXMomx3
04-24-2007, 10:42 PM
Mounds View is 3-0 and we play Southwest on friday anyone know if they're good or not.
I assume that's the Mpls Co-op that is mostly players from SW? Well, let's see... they lost to Mahtomedi (alot to a little). And Mahtomedi lost to BSM alot to a little. I'd say it wouldn't be surprising if you remain undefeated.
(and at 3-0, Mounds View just knocked Hill-Murray out of the undefeated pile).
wilsontopowell
04-24-2007, 10:57 PM
we minneapolis are a lot stronger team than scores would indicate. we had 4 starters out for various reasons one of them up to a season and another for half. but now were back at full strength and a lot stronger
LAXMomx3
04-24-2007, 11:06 PM
Good to know Wilsontopowell... Sounds like it'll be a good game for both sides.
Injuries can be a literal season killer for lax. Whoever said the MN season was too short was making a complete understatement. This is almost a frenzy!
Minnesota Laxer
04-25-2007, 08:00 AM
Eden Prairie just crushed Jefferson, that will move both EP and Blake up in my poll.
senorlax17
04-25-2007, 07:00 PM
Breck beat Holy Angels last night 11-10. It was 9-5 Breck at the start of the 4th, then HA came back, scoring on a few man-ups to tie it with one minute left. Breck scored w/ 30 seconds in the game, and then just finished it out.
Anyways, we (Breck) play Wayzata tomorrow (6:30 at Wayzata) and I was wondering: what's the situation with Fong and Nispel? Are they out for an extended amount of games? What exactly did they do to get in trouble? Just looking to clear some stuff up about it. Thanks.
mnlax9
04-25-2007, 07:08 PM
^^^^ please somebody clear that up
dukelax47
04-25-2007, 09:40 PM
they started a food fight at school and got arrested
dukelax47
04-25-2007, 09:41 PM
they could be out for the whole season
Eden Prairie just crushed Jefferson, that will move both EP and Blake up in my poll.
EP is fricken good, they are fast and talented and have alot of deapth. i know from experience.
LAXMomx3
04-25-2007, 10:15 PM
They were arrested??? By real police or was this school security?? To be arrested, it must have been one bad food fight. But unless it was completely over the top, arrests seem a little extreme. Unless there was malicious intent that started it, or a refusal to stop it in some way.. it sounds more like a stupid idea gone horribly wrong than something premeditated. Perhaps it fell under vandalism or something. But seriously.. I have never heard of a food fight arrest. And as we all know.. I am old. :-)
IronLax
04-26-2007, 08:39 AM
I saw mv play IHS, all I know is that their 2 attack jacobsen and samuel score about 12 goals against us.
IronLax
04-26-2007, 08:56 AM
Top boys players, anyone have an opinion.
IronLax
04-26-2007, 09:00 AM
do not forget about MV. young with the best face off player in the state, and I think the 2 best junior attack players. Number 9 at Middy to good also.
anklebreakerMN
04-26-2007, 09:21 AM
do not forget about MV. young with the best face off player in the state, and I think the 2 best junior attack players. Number 9 at Middy to good also.
no doubt...they have talent, but the best FOGO in the state...dont think so...
Costello - STA
Fong - Wayzata - if he is off his suspension....
Blake FO - dont know who he is , but he's good...
Minnesota Laxer
04-26-2007, 09:33 AM
They weren't arrested. I heard they were just cussing out the refs during the minnetonka game.
LAXMomx3
04-26-2007, 10:12 AM
They weren't arrested. I heard they were just cussing out the refs during the minnetonka game.
Definitely not cool. Has anyone ever had a ref say to them, "You know, you're right. My mistake. Your ball." ?????? It just doesn't pay to get on the refs bad side cause then they're watching you.. AND probably telling everyone else to watch you too!
But one would think that at HS level, it still would only be a one or two game suspension. But in any event, we're dealing with rumors, not fact. Quite a difference though between a food fight and cussing out a ref.
LAXMomx3
04-26-2007, 10:14 AM
Blake FO - dont know who he is , but he's good...
Am guessing that's either Blake Dressen (22) or Kip Dooley (10)
JollyRogerPt2
04-26-2007, 10:15 AM
F/o - Schmidt for Tonka must also be on list.
The allegations re: Nispel if true are disturbing from an outsider perspective. And the allegations are more than "cussing out a ref" Because they are allegations, I'll not repeat them.
PapaBear36
04-26-2007, 10:21 AM
Not Rumors...I was at the game and witnessed (and heard) everything that was said. Wayzata's "all-stars" were completely classless and really tarnished their program. As far as I am concerned, given everything that I saw and heard, being suspended is getting off easy. They should be done playing, be forced to write an apology to the referees and the fans who showed up in force (many young children witnessed this display), and to their teammates for basically ruining their season.
jdomination
04-26-2007, 10:45 AM
why would you feel sorry for them - they crush people in hockey. they deserve to be pummeled!
JollyRogerPt2
04-26-2007, 10:52 AM
I did not attend, thus to me they are allegations. I am not disagreeing with PB36's assessment, just clarifying why I term them allegations.
anklebreakerMN
04-26-2007, 11:38 AM
how can coaches get suspended for multiple games, and the players only get one game....sounds to me like the Good Ol Wayzata AD has his hands in his pockets again....
LAXMomx3
04-26-2007, 11:42 AM
JollyRoger is correct... rumors, allegations. Semantics/better vocab. Sorry to hear any of it, especially when we should all be working to give the sport a good reputation in the state.
My general assertion, however, is still valid: It never pays to go off on a ref. They are not going to look at your fondly. Plus... we all know there is a ref shortage in general. We should try to be more supportive of refs getting better and improving their insight, not getting sick of the hassle involved and quitting. That will hurt everyone.
Yesterday at a MS girls game, a goal was called good that was clearly made in the crease (HUGELY obvious). Granted, it made no difference to the result, but one of the girls (and not to the ref) said, "what a rip-off." She got a yellow card for unsportsmanlike conduct, had to sit for five minutes AND look up the rule in the rule book. If nothing else, she'll think twice before having a negative opinion again.
As for SSM's hockey program & crushing people: true. And wasn't SSM who Ryan Ward was coaching before coming to head up EP. In the Star Trib they quoted him as saying something to the effect of he was glad to be coming to a program that took the sport seriously. Enough said I suppose.
JollyRogerPt2
04-26-2007, 11:50 AM
LM03 - I was not criticizing you or you post via mine. I apologize if it could be understood that way.
IronLax
04-26-2007, 11:58 AM
Madsen had 16 plus clean face off win against HM, he is a junior. Jacobson, samual are Jr's @ attack, have scored 23 or so goals between them in 3 games. Elgin is a strong Middy. Overall the team is young. We will have to see.
jdomination
04-26-2007, 12:01 PM
how a team presents itself on the field is a direct reflection of its leadership - so the coaching staff should be reprimanded but not this way. the antics by those players that day represent either that the coaching staff somehow condones those actions or simply has no control over their players. i hope the latter is more likely the case and therefor suspending them from the team for any amount of time is not the answer. the ad needs to do his job and teach his coaches how lead and corral these defiant personalities. the fact is that without these antics wayzata would have had a great chance at winning that game.
jdomination
04-26-2007, 12:31 PM
whoever put blake at #9 in the top ten rankings is a joke. blake has the best offense in the state, their defense is coming into their own and lets not forget they have the best coaching staff in the state. maybe you will just have to wait and see for yourselves because the ep game payed no justice to the talent this teams has. play a zone on them and they will kill you with the best outside shooters in the state, play man-to-man and they will simply run by you. while other teams are peaking, blake is just starting to hit their mid season stride. they will peak at the right time and this will result in another state title.
CCLAX07
04-26-2007, 12:57 PM
what is with this talk about lakeville? we played them the other week and we should of killed them. we had a 5 goal lead, they came back and brought it to two, but thats because we had our fourth and 3rd line playing.
why does everyone think their so good?
LAXMomx3
04-26-2007, 01:08 PM
Well.. in fairness.. I think most are just looking at results so far and even LaxPower has Blake #6 behind BSM, Edina, MTKA, and EP. Blake plays AHA tonight.
But in most cases, everyone's been pretty judicious about recognizing their talent, especially their offense. And if I were them, I'd feel OK to be under-estimated.
But about their head coach? There is no doubt Joe Seivold has absolutely the best credentials in the state -- or the best i've read. I saw a flyer for his boys summer camp this past weekend: ...Selected as a 2006 inductee into the Baltimore USLax Hall of Fame (his father is in the Nat'l hall of fame). Played HS Lax at Gilman; At UNC was a four time All-America Midfielder, as well as an Academic All-America sr. year. Phi Beta Kappa. Member of the 1986 World Championship USA Lax team; and named to the ACC 50th Anniversary lax team in 2002. Yeah, I'd say that's pretty impressive.
With this said, ...Jordan Seivold -- can you say gene pool?
dukelax47
04-26-2007, 02:52 PM
the wayzata players were never arrested
they got ssuspended for the games for getting kicked out of the tonka game
dukelax47
04-26-2007, 03:07 PM
papabear36 the tonka fans were classless. they were harrassing the wayzata players all game. i was in the stands and i heard it. yelling at players while serving their penalty. you are rediculous.
riversideblues
04-26-2007, 03:24 PM
you were spot on in your reply to jdomination, laxmom. i do wonder though, does laxpower have any credibility? who really cares about midseason polls anyway?
i saw blake play av yesterday and although they beat them handedly, the bears did turn the ball over a lot.
jordan seivold also didn't seem to do anything. he got a lot of shots and is obviously capable of running by anyone, but seemed to lack the desire to. if the bears are going to succeed he needs to produce.
i agree the coaching staff is far better than any this state has seen, that is obvious, just watch a game.
goaltending may be an issue as well.
RAIDERLacrosse5
04-26-2007, 03:26 PM
both Wayzata and Minnetonka fans are known for not having the best 'classy' fans. both of those schools have been rivals since the start so you have to expect something.
The AHA and Breck game wouldve been awesome to see.
riversideblues
04-26-2007, 03:39 PM
heckling has existed as long as sports themselves. good athletes can perform in these environments and bad athletes can't, it's as simple as that.
you, DUKELAX47, should know that players need to be able to focus amidst outside pressures.
are you saying, "wayzata lost the game cause the tonka fans were mean to them and wayzata couldn't handle it". if you are, that is pretty weak!
PapaBear36
04-26-2007, 03:42 PM
I did not think the Tonka fans were out of control. As an unbiased observer to the game I was appalled at the conduct of the Wayzata players. All things considered, I thought the fans were well behaved for both sides.
riversideblues
04-26-2007, 03:52 PM
i agree. and rivalries are what makes sports fun. someone talks smack to you from the stands, you elevate your game and silence them with a goal or big stop.
should we only allow fans to shower players with compliments, get real!
teams are responsible for their actions, and fans will be fans.
dukelax47
04-26-2007, 03:55 PM
they were harrassing the players and the ref warned them to stop. hows that for class. a ref having to go out of the way to warn ADULTS to act more mature or else. As for the wayzata players...it was a game. adrenaline was pumping and things got out of control. But the adults should have acted in a more mature manner
riversideblues
04-26-2007, 04:18 PM
fans verbally harrassing players is not over the line, throwing things at players or spitting on them, are.
your guys couldnt handle the heat so they got booted. own that, move on and stop justifying horrific actions.
"but the fans were yelling at them", wha, wha, whaaaaaa!
RAIDERLacrosse5
04-26-2007, 04:48 PM
as much as i don't like fans being a part of the game dukelax47, they are. durning one of my games this season we were being constantly harrassed by the home team fans (we were away) and they were sitting right behind us- not to mention the game was played in a staidum 1/2 full. But i do question what the adults were doing as you mentioned. But once again Wayzata and Minnetonka are rival schools, i cant imagine how much talking there is when they play eachother in football. When my HS played both of them (at their stadiums) those dumb chants seemed to never stop
LAXMomx3
04-26-2007, 05:40 PM
Adults acting like idiots is wrong. Period. I am as big a fan as anyone. (case in point, I post on here!)... However, I do think some parents go completely overboard with their vicarious cheering. Get a life folks, these are your kids playing! I think parents should be leading by example, not by escort out of the stadium. It's worse than classless. And I don't care how big a rivalry you've got going, it's bad sportmanship. And if you're not learning that, then the whole point of HS athletics is being lost.
With this said, let's please watch how heated we get on this forum. Since the last thread was closed down, they've been watching this one very carefully. They've deleted posts and .. well.. We really don't want to start all over again, again. :-)
mnlax4life
04-26-2007, 08:22 PM
papabear36 the tonka fans were classless. they were harrassing the wayzata players all game. i was in the stands and i heard it. yelling at players while serving their penalty. you are rediculous.
You definitely are not a fan in the stands. Its clearly obvious you play for Wayzata. Dont even try to talk like that.
BSM24
04-26-2007, 09:05 PM
BSM 15 - Hill- Murray 3
senorlax17
04-26-2007, 09:45 PM
Breck 5 - Wayzata 3
Airsloth
04-26-2007, 10:16 PM
EP 14 Kennedy 1
CCLAX07
04-27-2007, 12:27 AM
we beat eagan tonight (Prior Lake) we were up 4 goals and then sat back. we put in all our lines (4) though in the 2nd half
and we had 2 starting attack out and spencer balfanz at middie
anklebreakerMN
04-27-2007, 08:40 AM
i agree the coaching staff is far better than any this state has seen, that is obvious, just watch a game.
Coming from a player that knows the coaching talent and potiential out there, yes they do have a great staff, and Joe definately has creditials - but to say he is the best in state totally discredits some of the the great coaches out there.... He has an extensive resume - and he is very qualified, but he's only been here 2 - 3 years right now, that might be a stretch - so of these coaches have been in place for 5 + years and doing a great job....Not to mention the plethra of college coaches in state as well...He is a great coach, but do I see him having the dominance he had at the NC level, only time will tell....
Travis Wells - Tonka
Justin Hobban - TG
Scott Cater - Jefferson
Just to name a few....
slidearly27
04-27-2007, 10:01 AM
we beat eagan tonight (Prior Lake) we were up 4 goals and then sat back. we put in all our lines (4) though in the 2nd half
and we had 2 starting attack out and spencer balfanz at middie
How many of your lines were resting when you were taken apart by tonka, and lost to eastview?
its great you beat eagan, so has almost evryone theyve played
RAIDERLacrosse5
04-27-2007, 12:04 PM
How many of your lines were resting when you were taken apart by tonka, and lost to eastview?
its great you beat eagan, so has almost evryone theyve played
no need to be cocky- hes just stating what happend in their game.
what is breck's rank currently though? anybody know?
riversideblues
04-27-2007, 12:21 PM
i think parents do act like idiots but that does not mean that i think they should stop acting like idiots. a parent calling a coach about playing time is far worse parental involvement than heckling the opposition. this is a tough, contact sport. if parents go over the line they will be booted and otherwise anything goes. if you can't handle the oppositions parents then you should have your kid join the chess club or dance team. maybe anyone who thinks heckling is actually an issue should toughen-up a bit.
LAXMomx3
04-27-2007, 12:32 PM
Coming from a player that knows the coaching talent and potiential out there, yes they do have a great staff, and Joe definately has creditials - but to say he is the best in state totally discredits some of the the great coaches out there.... He has an extensive resume - and he is very qualified, but he's only been here 2 - 3 years right now, that might be a stretch - so of these coaches have been in place for 5 + years and doing a great job....Not to mention the plethra of college coaches in state as well...He is a great coach, but do I see him having the dominance he had at the NC level, only time will tell....
Travis Wells - Tonka
Justin Hobban - TG
Scott Cater - Jefferson
Just to name a few....
I don't agree that Joe's impressive credentials discredit any of the great coaches in MN. Not at all. They are just a fact. Impressive, yes. Definitive as to his being a great coach, no. But he is. And you are right, there are a lot of great coaches out there. And let's face it, the amount of time and energy it takes to be a coach makes them all pretty great -- even those that perhaps don't have the winning record to back it up. We've already agreed that it's not the big paycheck driving them to do it. And following this line of thinking, despite Joe having two state titles under his belt in MN in the three years he's been here (this is his 3rd), winning state championships are not the only marker of a great coach either.
Beyond the fact that I don't think there is another coach on the boys side of things with his kind of resume, to coach at the HS level is to understand the development -- both physical and mental -- of a HS student. And THIS is why there are a lot of great coaches in MN whether they started coaching 25 years ago, 5 years ago or yesterday. A great coach is not always loved, but he is beloved.
So, here's to ALL the coaches. Let the games continue....
LAXMomx3
04-27-2007, 12:46 PM
i think parents do act like idiots but that does not mean that i think they should stop acting like idiots. a parent calling a coach about playing time is far worse parental involvement than heckling the opposition. this is a tough, contact sport. if parents go over the line they will be booted and otherwise anything goes. if you can't handle the oppositions parents then you should have your kid join the chess club or dance team. maybe anyone who thinks heckling is actually an issue should toughen-up a bit.
I disagree. I don't think parents should act like idiots. Let's just say it's the parent in me. :-)
Barring retributing behavior and other similar coaching infractions, I think parents that even question a coach's coaching are idiots. I think parents that scream at other people's kids are idiots. And I really think parents who scream at kids that ref MS games are even more so idiots. But there is a lot more to growing up and playing in HS than winning. And there is a lot more to sportsmanship than a call to simply toughen up.
Hey, I like to see our team win just as much as anyone. But it's true what they say, it's what you do in adversity that defines you. Anyone can win with grace and humility (for the most part), but losing with that same integrity takes something just a little bit more.
LAXMomx3
04-27-2007, 12:53 PM
Breck is currently .500 with a 3-3 record and, not counting MBSLA teams, is currently ranked 11th according to laxpower -- our only real resource. While they should have two games that are relatively promising (Centennial and Shattuck), they still have to face Edina, Mtka, and Armstrong.
CardinalPuff
04-27-2007, 01:14 PM
... There is no doubt Joe Seivold has absolutely the best credentials in the state -- or the best i've read. I saw a flyer for his boys summer camp this past weekend: ...Selected as a 2006 inductee into the Baltimore USLax Hall of Fame (his father is in the Nat'l hall of fame). Played HS Lax at Gilman; At UNC was a four time All-America Midfielder, as well as an Academic All-America sr. year. Phi Beta Kappa. Member of the 1986 World Championship USA Lax team; and named to the ACC 50th Anniversary lax team in 2002. Yeah, I'd say that's pretty impressive.
you want impressive?....you should ask him to tell you stories about summers in Ocean City during the early '80's......he was a hall of famer alright....
LAXMomx3
04-27-2007, 01:25 PM
you want impressive?....you should ask him to tell you stories about summers in Ocean City during the early '80's......he was a hall of famer alright....
Hey, I don't want people to know what I was doing in the early 80's that didn't make it on my resume, (which includes a lot). It's also why my kids have to think Way WAY outside the box to get away with much!!
riversideblues
04-27-2007, 01:43 PM
all parents that do anything other than supporting their children and their children's teams ARE idiots. my point is that we would be doing an injustice to our children by shielding them from adversity.
you say, "it's what you do in adversity that defines you" and i agree with that. So in sports, as in life, kids are presented with adversity as the wayzata kids were. they happened to fail THAT test but the opportunity to learn a lesson is the important and necessary fact.
adversity happens and will continue to happen throughout or kids lives. i think the focus should be on teaching our kids how to handle these situations rather than making rules against say, heckling. there IS heckling in "life" and there will never be a rule against it.
preparation for life is what sports are all about, not shielding our kids from important challenges.
anklebreakerMN
04-27-2007, 03:33 PM
I don't agree that Joe's impressive credentials discredit any of the great coaches in MN. Not at all. They are just a fact. Impressive, yes. Definitive as to his being a great coach, no. But he is. And you are right, there are a lot of great coaches out there. And let's face it, the amount of time and energy it takes to be a coach makes them all pretty great -- even those that perhaps don't have the winning record to back it up. We've already agreed that it's not the big paycheck driving them to do it. And following this line of thinking, despite Joe having two state titles under his belt in MN in the three years he's been here (this is his 3rd), winning state championships are not the only marker of a great coach either.
Beyond the fact that I don't think there is another coach on the boys side of things with his kind of resume, to coach at the HS level is to understand the development -- both physical and mental -- of a HS student. And THIS is why there are a lot of great coaches in MN whether they started coaching 25 years ago, 5 years ago or yesterday. A great coach is not always loved, but he is beloved.
So, here's to ALL the coaches. Let the games continue....
I think you misread me slightly here MOM....I agree he is good, but to flat out call him the best is a jump right now....was what I meant to say earlier...I was going back to the other individual saying that Blake has the best staff, and coaches in the state...resume - yes, best coach - we will still have to wait and see.....
anklebreakerMN
04-27-2007, 03:35 PM
all parents that do anything other than supporting their children and their children's teams ARE idiots. my point is that we would be doing an injustice to our children by shielding them from adversity.
you say, "it's what you do in adversity that defines you" and i agree with that. So in sports, as in life, kids are presented with adversity as the wayzata kids were. they happened to fail THAT test but the opportunity to learn a lesson is the important and necessary fact.
adversity happens and will continue to happen throughout or kids lives. i think the focus should be on teaching our kids how to handle these situations rather than making rules against say, heckling. there IS heckling in "life" and there will never be a rule against it.
preparation for life is what sports are all about, not shielding our kids from important challenges.
Valid points, but any parents that heckle are violating the league policies on sportsmanship....thus their team can be penalized per state hs rules...all it takes is a coach to ask for a double horn, and refer the refree to the state rules that superceed the NFHS rules...
riversideblues
04-27-2007, 03:48 PM
souds a little complicated...would that apply to drunk brothers, back from college, spitting profanities, or just parents. distant cousins, grandparents? could be hard to inforce not to mention unfair to the penalized team.
this league has too many rules.
LAXMomx3
04-27-2007, 04:53 PM
I think you misread me slightly here MOM....I agree he is good, but to flat out call him the best is a jump right now....was what I meant to say earlier...I was going back to the other individual saying that Blake has the best staff, and coaches in the state...resume - yes, best coach - we will still have to wait and see.....
Well.. then we both misread... it was said Blake had the best staff in the state. I didn't necessarily concur that, but I do believe their head coach has the best credentials. Semantics perhaps, but I will agree that calling anyone the flat-out best at anything is a dubious distinction. And you're right, we'll see. Actually, let's just say we're both right! And seriously, when you're talking about a coach it would be really niave to think the talent on the team has nothing to do with success: past, current or future.
About rules of heckling: The reason there are rules is because parents and fans go psycho and people have died as a result of punches thrown. When people cannot control their behavior or police themselves, rules are the only recourse. That doesn't mean people won't break them, but at least the consequences are clear. You're outta there.
E612Lax
04-28-2007, 12:12 AM
I assume that's the Mpls Co-op that is mostly players from SW? Well, let's see... they lost to Mahtomedi (alot to a little). And Mahtomedi lost to BSM alot to a little. I'd say it wouldn't be surprising if you remain undefeated.
(and at 3-0, Mounds View just knocked Hill-Murray out of the undefeated pile).
MPLS: 11 MV: 12
moundsview goalie was amazing, if not for him MV would have been in trouble.
LAXMomx3
04-28-2007, 06:42 AM
MPLS: 11 MV: 12
moundsview goalie was amazing, if not for him MV would have been in trouble.
Good win for MV.. and if I am not mistaken, this is only the second game in the MSHSL that went into double digits in both nets (the other being Breck v. AHA).
And MV can hope their goalie is on tonight too and we'll see if either they or Osseo (on Monday) can upset BSM or at the very least give them the challenge they've been needing in their schedule. MV remains undefeated coming into tonights contest. And Osseo's only loss has come to White Bear (MBSLA) who also remains undefeated and is the only MBSLA team in the top 5 on laxpower (#2). TG was the first so far to hold BSM to single digits, still losing though 8-2.
BSM24
04-28-2007, 03:26 PM
BSM 15 - MV 6
The ref took a goal away from us at the end of the game after he called a mouth guard penilty on our goalie on the other side of the field during the dead ball, which he can't do, so really the score should have been 16-6 but whatever
starslax3
04-28-2007, 03:34 PM
AHA-9
Wyzta-10
mvgoalie
04-28-2007, 08:24 PM
for being a defensemen bsm24 you have a pretty sick shot as a shorty
LAXMomx3
04-28-2007, 09:32 PM
sick shot as a shorty
Seriously... try to say this five times fast.
So I see that Wayzata lost to AHA by a goal.
And while I take nothing away from a great game by AHA, I was just wondering, is it just me or does Wayzata's season seem to be imploding? And I assume they are still missing their two top guns. So.. WITHOUT DISCUSSING THE DETAILS OF WHAT HAPPENED (totally stressing that), I was wondering how long that was for in the end. A couple games? 2 weeks? Or what?
starslax3
04-29-2007, 01:19 AM
no AHA lost to wayzeta by 1 goal. fong was out for 2 games, and the othe kid was out for 3. fong was back for the game today but i dont think the other kid was.
CardinalPuff
04-29-2007, 08:49 AM
BSM 15 - MV 6
The ref took a goal away from us at the end of the game after he called a mouth guard penilty on our goalie on the other side of the field during the dead ball, which he can't do, so really the score should have been 16-6 but whatever
this is true.....a goal can not be disallowed for a mouth gaurd violation, even on the shooter....
dukelax47
04-29-2007, 11:40 AM
i think the refs are getting a little whistle happy with this mouth gaurd rule. one of our players got one for not having it all the way in his mouth during a dead ball.
LAXMomx3
04-29-2007, 04:51 PM
no AHA lost to wayzeta by 1 goal. fong was out for 2 games, and the othe kid was out for 3. fong was back for the game today but i dont think the other kid was.
My mistake. oops.
So Wayzata will be full strength again this week where there are big games for all top 10 MSHSL teams on Laxpower. Picks??
Monday:
BSM (undefeated) v. Osseo @ Osseo
Armstrong v. AHA @ Armstrong
Tuesday:
MTKA (undefeated) v. Blake @ Blake
Thursday:
Blake v. Wayzata @ Blake
Eastview v. Lakeville @ Eastview
Friday
Osseo v. Maple Grove (undefeated) @ Maple Grove
Saturday:
MTKA v. Edina @ Edina
Wayzata v. Armstrong @ Wayzata
Eastview v. AHA @ Eastview
wilsontopowell
04-29-2007, 08:20 PM
i think that mtka vs blake game should be an interesting one
BSM24
04-29-2007, 10:39 PM
Ok so seeing that we are half way through the season, who do you guys think are the best players, and story lines so far?
riversideblues
04-30-2007, 09:14 AM
tonka should have that one...win over wayzata...face off's.
Minnesota Laxer
04-30-2007, 10:09 AM
My updated rankings for this week. Rankings are based purely on W-L record. Seems to be a sizeable gap between the Top 5 and the rest.
1) Benilde
2) Minnetonka
3) Eden Prairie
4) Blake
5) Edina
6) White Bear Lake
7) Osseo
8) Armstrong
9) Breck
10) Wayzata
dukelax47
04-30-2007, 12:42 PM
blake will destroy tonka
riversideblues
04-30-2007, 12:52 PM
what makes you so positive...is tonka missing players?
Airsloth
04-30-2007, 02:07 PM
I do have to agree that Blake will destroy tonka. Minnetonka has not beat anybody legit enough to be considered a top team! Yeah they beat wayzata but that game was just mad confusion with the players getting thrown out and stuff. I would also like to see how Benilde can play against a team in the top 10 before i crown them number 1 in the rankings
riversideblues
04-30-2007, 02:43 PM
didnt wayzata beat ep. tonka beating wayzata seems like a big deal regardless. what has blake shown/done to justify them "destroying" tonka?
anklebreakerMN
04-30-2007, 03:00 PM
I do have to agree that Blake will destroy tonka. Minnetonka has not beat anybody legit enough to be considered a top team! Yeah they beat wayzata but that game was just mad confusion with the players getting thrown out and stuff. I would also like to see how Benilde can play against a team in the top 10 before i crown them number 1 in the rankings
you cant fault them for having to play in the confrence they do....
dukelax47
04-30-2007, 03:31 PM
wayzata gave them a run for their money even though wayzata completely sucked that game
falconlax1
04-30-2007, 03:45 PM
The Holy Angels v. Armstrong Game odd to be a good game to see
senorlax17
04-30-2007, 06:47 PM
The Breck v. Armstrong game should be a good one to see too.
BSM24
04-30-2007, 08:32 PM
BSM 4 - Osseo 1
They game got called 5 minutes into the third quarter, and we "won" the game. I'm very disappointed that we were not able to finish it out. It was a close game, but very sloppy on both sides. It would be nice to get a rematch on a good field w/ good weather. So maybe we'll get them again at state, if we both get there.
mnlax4life
04-30-2007, 09:00 PM
BSM 4 - Osseo 1
They game got called 5 minutes into the third quarter, and we "won" the game. I'm very disappointed that we were not able to finish it out. It was a close game, but very sloppy on both sides. It would be nice to get a rematch on a good field w/ good weather. So maybe we'll get them again at state, if we both get there.
Not to take away from your "win", but how did you guys only score 4 goals? Granted that the weather sucked and made play more difficult for both teams, but you guys have put in like 12 or more a game normally.
LAXMomx3
04-30-2007, 09:23 PM
Not to take away from your "win", but how did you guys only score 4 goals? Granted that the weather sucked and made play more difficult for both teams, but you guys have put in like 12 or more a game normally.
Maybe it is called finally seeing some decent competition? But I'd agree it was too bad they didn't get to play the game out. As we all know, a 3 goal deficit isn't exactly a lot in the game of lacrosse, especially with practically a whole half to go. And I've also seen where teams can hold off their competition for about a half and then can't stop the momentum once worn down.
riversideblues
04-30-2007, 10:01 PM
how did you "win" the game if it got called. you either play the rest of the game at another time or reschedule. don't tell me this is bush league, or am i wrong?
CCLAX07
04-30-2007, 10:36 PM
How many of your lines were resting when you were taken apart by tonka, and lost to eastview?
its great you beat eagan, so has almost evryone theyve played
well actually during Mntka our atartind D were out cuz of funrasiers, but to tell u the truth it prolly wouldnt of made a difference.
but eastview was bullcrap even ask Eagans coach, refs called a goal that hit the pipe clearly.
im not saying were the best its just nice to see prior lake doing well u dont have to be so cocky
LAXMomx3
04-30-2007, 10:53 PM
how did you "win" the game if it got called. you either play the rest of the game at another time or reschedule. don't tell me this is bush league, or am i wrong?
These are the rules. And yes, I love research. (although this wasn't exactly difficult to find). You can mock me, but deep down ... weren't you curious as to the answer?
NFHS Rule Book (rule 3-1-5)
"If a game is interrupted because of events beyond the control of the responsible authorities, it shall be continued from the point of interruption unless there are confreence, league or state association rules to cover the situation. Both teams are permitted to make roster changes. By mutual agreement by the opposing coaches and approval of the referee, any game may be shortened or the game terminated.
MSHSL Bylaw 411
9. Lightning / Threatening Weather:
When weather conditions present a threat to the safety of participants and spectators, the host school superintendent or his/her designee has the authority to postpone or suspend the contest. The policies for each sport would determine whether and how the contest would be resumed.
Based on the above, the game ending had to have been by mutual agreement, unless there is a specific policy for lacrosse. And if there is, I couldn't find it -- but that doesn't mean there isn't one.
anklebreakerMN
05-01-2007, 07:51 AM
Maybe it is called finally seeing some decent competition? But I'd agree it was too bad they didn't get to play the game out. As we all know, a 3 goal deficit isn't exactly a lot in the game of lacrosse, especially with practically a whole half to go. And I've also seen where teams can hold off their competition for about a half and then can't stop the momentum once worn down.
totino and moundsview are better than osseo im my opinion
anklebreakerMN
05-01-2007, 09:39 AM
how did you "win" the game if it got called. you either play the rest of the game at another time or reschedule. don't tell me this is bush league, or am i wrong?
chill out....bad weather....big deal...lets wait and see what happens....
riversideblues
05-01-2007, 10:27 AM
maybe you should let bsm24 fight his own battles. you don't say you "won" a game until you actually won the game.
anklebreakerMN
05-01-2007, 11:24 AM
maybe you should let bsm24 fight his own battles...or are you two close? you don't say you "won" a game until you actually won the game. know that!
no, settle it down, thats why this thread got closed last time
check the MHSL web page...it has a final score , so I suppose the coaches settled it...
RAIDERLacrosse5
05-01-2007, 12:17 PM
LAXMom3 is right, lets all cool down. we all know refs have the power to postpone the game or go to the excent of stopping the game alltogether.
riversideblues
05-01-2007, 12:53 PM
nice job...way to take a stand! moving on - i would like to know where the osseos coachs spine went, unless they actually finished the game.
LAXMomx3
05-01-2007, 02:25 PM
Just an observation, but Riversideblues is taking this whole BSM/Osseo thing a bit hard. cheer up. In the words of Scarlet O'Hara, "Tomorrow is another day!"
And the length of our season probably had more to do with it than anyone missing skeletal support. There is something like two weeks left. Given the schedules, finding the time to even finish the thing (even if they had wanted to) was probably going to be tight. Then you've got the costs of busing and refs (I think they'd probably get paid twice or at least more than once). So I am sure there were a lot of factors that went into the decision to call the game finished as is. It really is too bad, but that's just the way it goes. There's a bigger picture here and it is more than one game -- despite its potential to have been a good one.
LAXMomx3
05-01-2007, 03:18 PM
While completely buried on page C9 in today's Star Tribune... Here is the "official" State Coaches Association Poll results:
1. Benilde (103)
2. Minnetonka (83)
3. (tie) Blake and Eden Prairie (76)
5. Edina (67)
6. Armstrong (42)
7. Osseo (40)
8. Wayzata (29)
9. Jefferson (20)
10. Eastview (19)
I assume the numbers that follow are the number of coaches voting them in that place? But again, for better or worse, there ya have it.
mnlaxer00
05-01-2007, 09:19 PM
what players are leading the state in points and how many do they have
LAXMomx3
05-01-2007, 10:45 PM
Not crushed, but...
http://westsidelax.com/index.php?id=34,2878,0,0,1,0
BSM24
05-01-2007, 11:05 PM
# P Name G A P
13 a James Vibbard 32 10 42
11 a Brett Hartmann 19 22 41
22 a Matt Draxler 24 6 30
These are the stats for our top 3 scorers
mnlax9
05-02-2007, 08:54 PM
While completely buried on page C9 in today's Star Tribune... Here is the "official" State Coaches Association Poll results:
1. Benilde (103)
2. Minnetonka (83)
3. (tie) Blake and Eden Prairie (76)
5. Edina (67)
6. Armstrong (42)
7. Osseo (40)
8. Wayzata (29)
9. Jefferson (20)
10. Eastview (19)
I assume the numbers that follow are the number of coaches voting them in that place? But again, for better or worse, there ya have it.
does anyone agree with eastview?? Yes i play for them
mnlax4life
05-03-2007, 07:31 AM
does anyone agree with eastview?? Yes i play for them
Eastview is terrible and shouldn't be #10 if thats what your saying.
riversideblues
05-03-2007, 09:45 AM
why are we talking about eastview??? how bout some final four predictions?
Minnesota Laxer
05-03-2007, 10:12 AM
My final four predictions are Blake, Eden Pairie, Eastview, and Osseo. It sucks how lopsided the sections are. Blake's section has all the best teams. EP needs to get by Tonka which should be a good game. Eastviews section will be a competitive section but the winner is going to get killed in state. And Osseo's section has nobody.
Anyone know which sections will play each other in state?
anklebreakerMN
05-03-2007, 10:15 AM
My final four predictions are Blake, Eden Pairie, Eastview, and Osseo. It sucks how lopsided the sections are. Blake's section has all the best teams. EP needs to get by Tonka which should be a good game. Eastviews section will be a competitive section but the winner is going to get killed in state. And Osseo's section has nobody.
Anyone know which sections will play each other in state?
OSSEO is very overatted, one good goalie doesnt make you a state playoff team...
Minnesota Laxer
05-03-2007, 10:18 AM
It does when you look at their section. The other teams in the section are Centennial, Hill-Murray, Mahtomedi, Roseville, St. Thomas Academy, Totino-Grace, Woodbury, and Osseo.
I guess I could see Hill Murray or Totino making it out of there, but pretty weak section all around.
mnlax4life
05-03-2007, 10:30 AM
OSSEO is very overatted, one good goalie doesnt make you a state playoff team...
I don't know about them being overrated, from what ive heard they played with Benilde. They might not be a top 4 team, but that doesn't matter, what matters is their section. Which they should win easily, I think they play Cenntennial tonight which is the second best team in the section. So we shall see.
riversideblues
05-03-2007, 11:06 AM
hey laxmom - can you please give us a breakdown of all the sections, followed by grilled cheeses, no crust, cut into triangles. your the best!
LAXMomx3
05-03-2007, 11:27 AM
hey laxmom - can you please give us a breakdown of all the sections, followed by grilled cheeses, no crust, cut into triangles. your the best!
Here are the sections in Alpha Order (current laxpower ranking):
Section 3
Apple Valley
Eagan
Eastview (10)
Prior Lake
Rosemount
Shattuck-Saint Mary's
Simley
Lakeville Co-op
Section 4
Centennial
Hill-Murray
Mahtomedi
Roseville
Saint Thomas Academy
Totino-Grace
Woodbury
Osseo Co-op (6)
Section 5
Academy of Holy Angels
Benilde-St. Margaret's (1)
Blake (2)
Bloomington Jefferson (9)
Bloomington Kennedy
Breck School
Edina High School (3)
Minneapolis Co-op
Section 6
Chaska
Eden Prairie (4)
Hopkins
Maple Grove
Minnetonka (5)
Robbinsdale Armstrong (7)
Robbinsdale Cooper
Wayzata (8)
You'll have to make your own sandwich... I don't cook. :-)
anklebreakerMN
05-03-2007, 12:29 PM
I don't know about them being overrated, from what ive heard they played with Benilde. They might not be a top 4 team, but that doesn't matter, what matters is their section. Which they should win easily, I think they play Cenntennial tonight which is the second best team in the section. So we shall see.
And from what Ive heard they didnt....its all speculuation...Im sorry Ive watched them play this year...they are number 10 in my opinion
mnlax4life
05-03-2007, 01:29 PM
And from what Ive heard they didnt....its all speculuation...Im sorry Ive watched them play this year...they are number 10 in my opinion
From what I heard and saw, they held Benilde to four goals. Thats good hands down. And as much as I don't like Osseo from when I played, they have not played their best yet and are still 6-1. So then, tell me how Benilde only put up four?
riversideblues
05-03-2007, 06:33 PM
no worries, we can order in. still the best:)
BSM24
05-03-2007, 09:22 PM
From what I heard and saw, they held Benilde to four goals. Thats good hands down. And as much as I don't like Osseo from when I played, they have not played their best yet and are still 6-1. So then, tell me how Benilde only put up four?
B/C we didn't even play the second half of the game, like I said before, it got called due to weather.
senorlax17
05-03-2007, 10:32 PM
B/C we didn't even play the second half of the game, like I said before, it got called due to weather.
Hey, four goals in one half plus a tiny bit more when you guys have been putting up twice that per half on some teams is pretty good. One half and a three goal deficit isn't much. Would you guys still have won? There's a good chance, but there's an equally good chance that Osseo could've come back. This season has been crazy so far so far so something like that wouldn't have been too out of the ordinary.
And Breck 5-Armstrong 3
mvgoalie
05-03-2007, 11:41 PM
MV 10 Stillwater 9 in 3OT
dukelax47
05-04-2007, 02:25 PM
blake vs wayzata tonight...should be a good game if wayzata shows up to play
Minnesota Laxer
05-04-2007, 02:32 PM
I don't know, Wayzata has seemed to fallen off this season. I see Blake winning this one pretty easily.
E612Lax
05-05-2007, 12:15 AM
MPLS: 12 HILL-MURRAY: 9
LAXMomx3
05-05-2007, 08:35 AM
Interesting: Osseo v BSM game now gone missing entirely from Laxpower and the score has been reset to 0-0 on the MSHSL website. Insight?
Edina (8-1) v. MTKA (7-1) today at 3:30. Based on season wins/losses on both sides, it should be a great game and would be a huge win for either side. With Edina to face off against Blake on Tuesday and then Breck on Friday, how they close out their regular season will definitely effect the standings for section 5 play. And then there's MTKA, who is currently in the best position to give Eden Prairie a run for their money coming out of Section 6.
senorlax17
05-05-2007, 07:47 PM
Hey, anybody know how that Edina, MTKA game went today? We (Breck) play both teams next week so I'm pretty interested.
starslax3
05-06-2007, 03:26 AM
mtka won 10-7
eatview beats AHA by 1.
mnlax4life
05-06-2007, 10:32 AM
These are the newest recruits via laxpower:
1433 3 Messina, Matt Woodbury MN Woodbury MN Defense R Fontbonne
1451 3 Schulte, Trey Woodbury MN Woodbury MN Midfield R Fontbonne
1760 3 Berrett, Justin Plymouth MN Benilde-St. Margaret's MN Goalie R Nichols
1925 3 Cutshall, Matt Edina MN Edina MN Defense R Vassar
1935 3 Holmes, Nathan Plymouth MN Osseo MN Midfield R Adrian
1948 U Koppang, Matthew Rosemount MN Rosemount MN Defense/LSM W Minnesota-Duluth
1962 U Balfanz, Spencer Prior Lake MN Prior Lake MN Midfield W Minnesota-Duluth
1972 3 Hartmann, Brett Plymouth MN Benilde-St Margaret's MN Attack/Midfield R RIT
1998 2 Wesenberg, Alex Bloomington MN Thomas Jefferson MN Attack S Queens
2059 3 Griesinger, J.J. Apple Valley MN Academy of Holy Angels MN Attack R Tri-State
2150 U Moore, Bobby Plymouth MN Armstrong MN Midfield R Minnesota-Duluth
2154 3 Thiel, Nate Plymouth MN Breck School MN Midfield R Washington College
2235 2 Fleming, Kenny Plymouth MN Osseo MN Goalie S Wheeling Jesuit
8 D3, 2 D2, and the rest are club. Minnesota is starting to make a mark in the college recruiting game. Congratulations to all these players.
mnlax4life
05-06-2007, 10:33 AM
Anybody want to try and predict the all-state teams this year? Its kind of a mess right now.
senorlax17
05-06-2007, 11:08 AM
Well they pick so many kids for it, with first, second, third, and honorable mention teams that picking them all would be hard. I'm assuming that you mean maybe only the first team though, which I think would actually be more difficult to decide.
As for attack, there is a great number of people who could be considered for first team, as in all of the Benilde guys, Upjohn and Dooley from Blake, and many many more. There are a ton of middies who could be first team as well. I think picking poles will be a little easier than picking middies or attack. As for goalies, I think there are a ton of them that are playing very well for there teams this year, so that will be difficult to pick as well. All in all, I don't know all the names of the superstars from the teams, so I can't pick out all of the names, but I think this year's all state team should be a pretty solid one.
mnlax07
05-06-2007, 12:58 PM
Hey, I play for Stillwater and we just play Benild yesterday. The game got canceled because of the weather, but is rescheduled for wed I think. Anyways, we held them to only one goal in the first quarter, which was scored by one of their long poles who plays on their man up:(. Their d completely killed us though. We only had the ball in their zone about 5 seconds before they took it away. But the offense wasn't that great.
mvgoalie
05-06-2007, 02:35 PM
I don't see Costello on that list of recruits. Where's he going
MNAttack313
05-06-2007, 03:17 PM
Costello is going to a college in Maryland. I do know which one it is, but I know that it has D-1 lacrosse.
BSM24
05-06-2007, 03:59 PM
He's going to UMBC
mnlax9
05-06-2007, 06:02 PM
new west side rankings
STX-WSL Minnesota Boys Top 10
1. Benilde-St. Margaret's: 9-0
2. Eden Prairie: 8-1
3. Blake: 8-1
4. Minnetonka: 8-1
5. Edina: 8-2
6. White Bear: 5-0
7. Osseo: 8-1
8. Wayzata: 5-4
9. Armstrong: 5-4
10. Eastview: 7-3
elitelax22
05-06-2007, 10:38 PM
Get back to the All-state team, who will go first team?
Airsloth
05-07-2007, 01:05 AM
who is the final four in the tournament?
StickTrick
05-07-2007, 07:58 AM
BSM has a weak conference, but their section is the toughest. And the only way they will ever see EP is if they come out of that alive. And Minnetonka has a good chance of making sure EP won't see the final four.
mnlax4life
05-07-2007, 10:09 AM
obviously osseo is bad and benilde has killed everyone so far so it is clear that their conference and section is garbage, and when they played osseo they couldnt handle the pressure so wait until they see blake ep or any team who can play with the two they will get worked
Laaxmom- can i come over for grilled cheeses too or maybe a blake pasta dinner?
Who are you ripping on, because BSM is 9-0 and Osseo is 8-1, i'm confused.....
mnlax4life
05-07-2007, 10:04 PM
Attack-Dooley, Upjohn, Draxler, Vibbard, Wigdahl, Wesenberg
Middies-Sievold, Schmit, Costello, Baxter, Fong
Defense-Donna, Gilligan, Gilbert, McMahon, Johnson (BSM)
LSM-No idea outside Kyrilis or Johnson.
Goalie-No idea what so ever.
These are just predictions, make your own if you don't like them...
elitelax22
05-07-2007, 10:48 PM
strongly agree on the attack, with the midfields i would have agreed with you on that before the season but i think there are middies that are up there before some of them but just my opinion. Plus baxter i think is attack or aleast he was when we played them. let here what others have to say on this....?
LAXMomx3
05-08-2007, 09:44 AM
Weekly Outlook:
Section Standing/LP Rank/Reg Season Rec/Conference Leaders/ Conf Record:
Section #3:
Eastview (10) 7-3 (MSHSL-L #2) 5-2
Prior Lake 6-3 (MSHSL-L #3) 5-2
Eagan 5-3 (MSHSL-L #4) 4-2
Lakeville 4-5
Apple Valley 3-6
Simley 1-6
Rosemount 1-10
Shattuck 0-9
Section 4:
Osseo (6) 8-1 (MSHSL-N #2) 4-0
Hill-Murray 7-3 (MSHSL-N #4) 5-2
Mahtomedi 7-2 (MSHSL-N #3) 6-2
Totino 5-5
Centennial 4-4
St. Thomas 3-6
Woodbury 3-6
Roseville 1-5
Section 5:
BSM (1) 9-0 (MSHSL-N #1) 7-0
Blake (2) 8-1 (MSHSL-C #1) 6-0
Edina (4) 8-2 (MSHSL-C #2) 5-1
Breck (9) 7-3 (MSHSL-C #4) 5-1
Jefferson (8) 6-4
Minneapolis 5-4
AHA 3-7
Kennedy 2-6
Section 6:
Eden Prairie(3) 8-1 (MSHSL-L #1) 6-0
Minnetonka (5) 8-2 (MSHSL-C #3) 5-1
Maple Grove 7-2
Wayzata (7) 6-4
Armstrong 5-4
Cooper 2-4
Hopkins 1-9
Chaska 1-8
Interesting Match-Ups 5/8 - 5/11 (using laxpower rankings)
Tuesday:
Mpls v. #1 BSM @ Mpls
#4 Edina v. #2 Blake @ Edina
(Edina fell to MTKA over the weekend.)
#5 MTKA v. #9 Breck @ MTKA
(Jefferson handed MTKA their second loss of the season on Monday.)
Thursday:
#3 Eden Prairie v. #10 Eastview @ Eden Prairie
Friday:
Breck v. Edina @ Breck
mnlax4life
05-08-2007, 10:20 AM
Here is the first top ten list of the year: (via BSM24)
Top-10 Teams
1. Benilde-St. Margaret's
2. Eden Prairie
3. Osseo
4. Totino Grace
5. Edina
6. Blake
7. Moundsview
8. Wayzata
9. Acadamy of Holy Angels
10. Apple Valley
How does this compare to a top ten list right now? Anybody undeserving of a spot or somebody missing? It's funny how this season has played out...
woodze13
05-08-2007, 02:51 PM
any predictions on the Prior lake vrs Jeferson game tonight Jefersons playin great but PL just came off a six goal win over apple valley and now has all their starting players back to healthy (we were playin with at least three or four missing before apple valley)
yes i play for prior lake
StickTrick
05-08-2007, 02:57 PM
Minnetonka wasn't even mentioned. Hard to ignore they are deserving now. I predict they will see EP in the section 6 finals.
Section 5 is just sick. Whoever comes out of that should be at #1 spot for the state tourney.
mnlax4life
05-08-2007, 08:04 PM
Minnetonka wasn't even mentioned. Hard to ignore they are deserving now. I predict they will see EP in the section 6 finals.
Section 5 is just sick. Whoever comes out of that should be at #1 spot for the state tourney.
I didn't say they werent, I believe they are 8-2 which would put them towards the middle of the list. I just posted what was posted at the start of the year. Obviously it does not hold accurate right now.
BSM24
05-08-2007, 08:16 PM
BSM 18 Minneapolis 2
woodze13
05-08-2007, 10:24 PM
prior lake 9 bloomington jefferson 5
great game rained like crazy jefferson was good but balfanz is back and better than ever and scott and cory played good but the real story was our team offense they played well. I loved (but hated playin against) jeffersons offense, from a defensive standpoint i couldnt tell wich way was up with all the middie swapping and rotating.
Airsloth
05-08-2007, 10:36 PM
ep 15 Chask 4
CCLAX07
05-08-2007, 10:56 PM
hopefully pl will gain some respect soon
BSM24
05-08-2007, 11:00 PM
Prior Lake will always have my respect ;)
LAXMomx3
05-08-2007, 11:02 PM
How does this compare to a top ten list right now? Anybody undeserving of a spot or somebody missing? It's funny how this season has played out...
Actually, I think StickTrick was just answering your question of somebody missing from that very first list.
As for more of those early predictions on the Minnesota 07 Season original thread, JollyRogerpt2 reported rumor may have been right when he said (early on):
Wayzata has undergone a complete coaching change, and rumor is that the new coach may be lacking... Is the rumor true? They do return a strong goalie and a great face off middy (Alex Fong).
While I wouldn't know about the coach, beyond the EP win, they aren't doing nearly as well as I would have guessed. On the other hand, I would suggest that Breck is doing better than I suspected they would.
senorlax17
05-09-2007, 07:38 AM
Breck vs Mtka was called last night due to lightning. I think they're calling no contest or something, so it will be like the game was never played. It was 5-3 Mtka like 4 minutes into the 3rd. I don't think we're rescheduling.
mnlax4life
05-09-2007, 08:21 AM
Id say the top ten list is as follows:
1. BSM
2. Blake
3. EP
4. Osseo
5. MTKA
6. Edina
7. Jefferson
8. Wayzata
9. Prior Lake
10. Breck
AHA lax5
05-10-2007, 08:31 PM
AHA upsets Minnetonka 14-12
CCLAX07
05-10-2007, 08:54 PM
hahah thats so tite
whats happening to Tonka
mnlax4life
05-10-2007, 09:02 PM
AHA upsets Minnetonka 14-12
That definitely hurts MTKA on the top ten list. I say AHA is a team to maybe watch out for because they have the ability to play with most teams.
woodze13
05-10-2007, 09:30 PM
any predictions on how section rankings will go after sunday, I hope were numper one (prior lake) in section 3 but i could be wrong i have no idea how the other sections will play out.
senorlax17
05-10-2007, 10:32 PM
Well in Section 5 right now, there's a mighty battle going on for the #3-5 spots. Benilde and Blake have the first two no matter what, but 3-5 are up for grabs to Jefferson, Breck, and Edina. Breck plays Edina tomorrow, and the winner of that will most likely grab the #3 seed. Jefferson could almost be guaranteed the #4 seed, no better or worse, as long as they win tomorrow (assuming they won today). It's just an interesting battle for these 3 spots. And the game tomorrow should be an interesting, important, and exciting one.
LAXMomx3
05-11-2007, 01:20 AM
Well in Section 5 right now, there's a mighty battle going on for the #3-5 spots. Benilde and Blake have the first two no matter what, but 3-5 are up for grabs to Jefferson, Breck, and Edina. Breck plays Edina tomorrow, and the winner of that will most likely grab the #3 seed. Jefferson could almost be guaranteed the #4 seed, no better or worse, as long as they win tomorrow (assuming they won today). It's just an interesting battle for these 3 spots. And the game tomorrow should be an interesting, important, and exciting one.
Even more interesting.... With the quarter finals being played at the Jefferson and Breck fields, if Breck should land at #4, they will be playing at Jefferson against Jefferson! Landing at #3 gives them a home field advantage against Mpls. (Unless, of course, all that changes based on the results of the Edina v. Breck match-up.) Yep, important & interesting for sure!
As for section 3 -- this has ended up a lot more interesting than I originally thought. But no worries, Woodze13, because unless Eagan comes out on top of both Blake and EP (their last two games), my educated guess is that PL has that top spot locked up. Although PL (11 games total) and Eastview (12 games total) have equal winning percentages @ 73%, PL is the head-to-head winner of their matchup. I am thinking that gives PL top billing. Who eventually emerges from the section victorious, however, is still in question.
mnlax9
05-11-2007, 06:56 AM
Even more interesting.... With the quarter finals being played at the Jefferson and Breck fields, if Breck should land at #4, they will be playing at Jefferson against Jefferson! Landing at #3 gives them a home field advantage against Mpls. (Unless, of course, all that changes based on the results of the Edina v. Breck match-up.) Yep, important & interesting for sure!
As for section 3 -- this has ended up a lot more interesting than I originally thought. But no worries, Woodze13, because unless Eagan comes out on top of both Blake and EP (their last two games), my educated guess is that PL has that top spot locked up. Although PL (11 games total) and Eastview (12 games total) have equal winning percentages @ 73%, PL is the head-to-head winner of their matchup. I am thinking that gives PL top billing. Who eventually emerges from the section victorious, however, is still in question.
eastview beat prior lake 8-7
LAXMomx3
05-11-2007, 07:42 AM
eastview beat prior lake 8-7
Based on this BIG OOPS of mine (I swear I have some sort of dyslexia when it comes to the scores of close games), Eastview should remain in first place. Sorry Woodze 13. Then again, I could be totally wrong (and have been plenty of times). Wherever you land, however, you still just have to take one game at a time.
CCLAX07
05-11-2007, 07:17 PM
Based on this BIG OOPS of mine (I swear I have some sort of dyslexia when it comes to the scores of close games), Eastview should remain in first place. Sorry Woodze 13. Then again, I could be totally wrong (and have been plenty of times). Wherever you land, however, you still just have to take one game at a time.
Prior Lake is 8-3
Eastview 7-5
we have more section and conference wins
and i believe they lost to apple valley and eagan which we beat both of them.
my coach said they will have to discuss it on sunday, but he said we shouldnt have any problems getting first
mnlax9
05-11-2007, 10:15 PM
Prior Lake is 8-3
Eastview 7-5
we have more section and conference wins
and i believe they lost to apple valley and eagan which we beat both of them.
my coach said they will have to discuss it on sunday, but he said we shouldnt have any problems getting first
ya i play for eastview and to you guys will most likley be getting the first seed
senorlax17
05-11-2007, 11:53 PM
In case anyone was interested, Breck beat Edina 5-4. It was a really exciting game and game down to the last minute. Both defenses played amazing. So I think this gives Breck the #3 spot in section 5 for sure, but I guess I could be wrong.
Jolly Roger
05-12-2007, 12:15 AM
Some early thoughts about next year:
1 Dooley and Seivold will continue th dominate even more next year.
2 Apple Valleys offense will be much better without Wigdahl, because he hogs the ball. Young guns such as Logan, van klein, and Flategraff will emerge. Graves is a darkhorse.
3 Sergio Diaz-Moresco will emerge as one of the best goalies in the state for Wayzta next year and has the talent to take them deep
4 Eastview is one of the most interesting teams. Their attack is strong with likely 1st team all state player Tim Rondorf, but is also a liability because of the one dimensional, one handed Andy Freeman. Good young middies especially Justin Vossen.
5 Watch out for Osseo next year, particularilly due to the possible transfer of Ben Parpart from Champlin Park. Other good players are Ryan Lofgren,Koby Lursen and Steve Cherekos
E612Lax
05-12-2007, 12:34 AM
MPLS:12 STA:9 , puts them at (6-6) at end of season. most likely seeded 6th in section 5
LAXMomx3
05-12-2007, 01:17 AM
In case anyone was interested, Breck beat Edina 5-4. It was a really exciting game and game down to the last minute. Both defenses played amazing. So I think this gives Breck the #3 spot in section 5 for sure, but I guess I could be wrong.
Apparently there is a seed meeting for section 5 and section 3. Not sure about others as perhaps it's more clear cut.
BUT...
Congrats! While a heart-breaking end to Edina's season with 1 goal losses to both Blake and Breck, it sure must have been great for Breck to end their regular season with such a big win.
LAXMomx3
05-12-2007, 01:23 AM
5 Watch out for Osseo next year, particularilly due to the possible transfer of Ben Parpart from Champlin Park.
Unless he's already on the books to transfer or his parents are actually moving their residence, he will not be able to play varsity for one year due to the new MSHSL transfer rule. Don't know his situation, but the new rule is pretty clear and quite strict.
Ketnar
05-12-2007, 02:34 AM
Jefferson beat Kennedy tonight 12-1, and crushed Rosemount last night, but with Breck beating Edina how will the seeds fall through for the 3-5 spots in Section 5?
LAXMomx3
05-12-2007, 10:25 AM
Jefferson beat Kennedy tonight 12-1, and crushed Rosemount last night, but with Breck beating Edina how will the seeds fall through for the 3-5 spots in Section 5?
If they end up going by straight win percentages (w-l records aren't accurate because teams ended up playing anywhere from 11-13 games), spots 3-5 will be Breck, Edina, Jefferson. However, if they factor in any kind of strength of schedule whatsoever, Edina and Breck would be reversed in the 3&4 spots. Personally, I am far more dubious about BSM landing at #1.
Sure, they are undefeated, but they have only played 3 teams from the top-20 (4 if you go by season winning %). Blake, on the other hand, has played 10 (7 if you go by %). In the top 10, BSM ended up playing zero of those teams, Blake played half of them. (just winning %: BSM 2, Blake 3)
But Look at Minnetonka and Maple Grove. They have the exact same record in section 6. But again using only MSHL teams, Maple Grove isn't anywhere near the top 20 whereas MTKA is #4. To not consider strength of schedules in seeding, what prevents teams from playing the bottom of the ranks during the regular season just to come in as the number one seed in play-offs?
mnlax4life
05-12-2007, 10:25 AM
Where are the section seedings being posted at?
LAXMomx3
05-12-2007, 10:45 AM
Where are the section seedings being posted at?
If you go to MSHSL.org, you can scroll through activiites. Click on Boys Lacrosse and then on the right there is a box of section tournaments.
Here's the activities page (Section Tourney's listed on right hand side):
http://www.mshsl.org/mshsl/activitypage.asp?actnum=434
Click on the section you want and then that will take you to a page where you'll, again, scroll down to LAX and then click on brackets. The game times and place will pop up.
mnlaxer00
05-12-2007, 04:03 PM
Laxmom why do you hate benilde so much you always say negative stuff about benilde its not their fault they had a way easy schedual
LAXMomx3
05-12-2007, 06:38 PM
Laxmom why do you hate benilde so much you always say negative stuff about benilde its not their fault they had a way easy schedual
Where do you get that I am "always" negative about Benilde? Dubious means uncertain, skeptical. I was just looking at the numbers and, comparatively speaking, remained unconvinced they were deserving of the #1 spot. That doesn't say they won't or shouldn't, it just says I wasn't convinced they had earned it.
And just an FYI. While it's not players who make schedules, it's not like random decision-makers outside of the school are making them. It's the school's AD.
But with two rained-out games in Osseo and Stillwater, choosing to finish the non-MSHSL Stillwater game and not the #6 MSHSL Osseo seemed an odd decision if for no other reason than the credibility factor.
Seriously though, my question wasn't rhetorical. I'm really asking. What prevents a school from choosing a less than competitive schedule that could earn the top seed? Why would you or why would you not want to do that?
CCLAX07
05-12-2007, 09:10 PM
its true the players might not pick the schedule but the coach and AD do.
mnlax4life
05-12-2007, 11:37 PM
Do the all-state teams get made based on the regular season or the entire season throughout the playoffs?
LAXMomx3
05-13-2007, 10:45 AM
Section 4 Seeding Posted: All games are on Mon. 5/14
#1 Osseo (10-1) v. #8 St. Thomas Academy (4-8) @ Osseo 6pm
#4 Totino Grace (7-5) v. #5 Centennial (4-6) @Osseo 4pm
#3 Mahtomedi (10-2) v. #6 Roseville (3-6) @Roseville 7:30pm
#2 Hill-Murray (9-3) v. #7 Woodbury (4-7) @Roseville 6pm
MSHSL-only Top-20 Laxpower rank:
#6 Osseo
#18 Hill-Murray
#14 Mahtomedi
#17 Totino Grace
#15 Centennial
minnesotalax
05-13-2007, 01:16 PM
hey laxmom do u know where i can find the section 5 standings?
mnlax4life
05-13-2007, 04:50 PM
Section 4 Seeding Posted: All games are on Mon. 5/14
#1 Osseo (10-1) v. #8 St. Thomas Academy (4-8) @ Osseo 6pm
#4 Totino Grace (7-5) v. #5 Centennial (4-6) @Osseo 4pm
#3 Mahtomedi (10-2) v. #6 Roseville (3-6) @Roseville 7:30pm
#2 Hill-Murray (9-3) v. #7 Woodbury (4-7) @Roseville 6pm
MSHSL-only Top-20 Laxpower rank:
#6 Osseo
#18 Hill-Murray
#14 Mahtomedi
#17 Totino Grace
#15 Centennial
I think Mahtomedi will come away with that section, anybody else think otherwise?
AHA lax5
05-13-2007, 04:57 PM
I think Mahtomedi will come away with that section, anybody else think otherwise?
I disagree, it will be either Osseo or Centennial out of that section
CCLAX07
05-13-2007, 06:18 PM
yea for sure one of those 2 teams
and for the ALL-State selection i believe it is b4 the playoffs atleast last year it was b4 state because they announced it at the championship game
LAXMomx3
05-13-2007, 08:00 PM
Section 3 Posted: All games are on Mon. 5/14
#1 Prior Lake (8-3) v. #8 Shattuck (0-10) @ Prior Lake 6:30
#4 Lakeville (5-7) v. #5 Apple Valley (4-7) @ Lakeville 6:30
#3 Eastview (7-5) v. #6 Simley (1-10) @ Eastview 6:30
#2 Eagan (7-5) v. #7 Rosemount (0-12) @ Eagan 6:30
MSHSL-only Top-20 Laxpower Rank
#10 Prior Lake
#13 Eagan
#12 Eastview
#19 Lakeville
#20 Apple Valley
elitelax22
05-13-2007, 09:55 PM
lets here some predictions on the top 4 teams?
BSM24
05-13-2007, 10:12 PM
Here's how Section 5 ended up
1. BSM
2. Blake
3. Breck
4. Jefferson
5. Edina
6. Holy Angels
7. Minneapolis
8. Kennedy
senorlax17
05-13-2007, 10:38 PM
Hey thanks BSM, I didn't know that and I couldn't find it anywhere. Where did you get it from?
As for the 4 teams that I think will make it to state, I'll have to say: Eastview, Osseo, Blake, and EP. It should be different, with EP, BSM, and Blake all making it, but either BSM or Blake is gonna have to lose, so we'll see which one it is. If they play in sections, it should be a pretty good game. As will Jefferson-Edina, and Breck-HA in the first round.
LAXMomx3
05-13-2007, 11:05 PM
Thanks BSM. and just to be fair and consistent:
Section 5 seedings. All games on Tuesday, May 15.
#1 BSM (12-0) v. #8 Kennedy (2-9) @ Jefferson 3:30
#4 Jefferson (8-5) v. #5 Edina (8-4) @ Jefferson 5:30
#3 Breck (8-3) v. #6 AHA (5-7) @ Breck 5:30
#2 Blake (11-1) v. #7 MPLS (6-6) @ Breck 7:30
MSHSL-only Top 20 Laxpower
#1 BSM
#2 Blake
#8 Breck
#9 Jefferson
#5 Edina
#16 Holy Angels
LAXMomx3
05-13-2007, 11:36 PM
Will it be "history repeats" or "Revenge is Sweet"?
1. Prior Lake v. Shattuck -- Mid-season defeat for Shattuck but earned them their 2nd highest goal total of the season. (9-5)
2. Lakeville v. Apple Valley -- A one goal differential gave Lakeville the win. (6-5)
3. Eagan v. Rosemount -- A first of May match-up that had Eagan outscoring Rosemount by 13 goals. (15-2)
4. Mahtomedi v. Roseville -- On a 7-game winning streak since falling to BSM early in the season, they took Roseville by two goals (8-6).
5. Hill-Murray v. Woodbury -- Rematch of 1st game (and win) of Hill-Murray's season (11-4)
6. Jefferson v. Edina -- Rematch of 1st game (and win) of Jefferson's season (7-4)
7. Breck v. AHA - Mid-season game had a lone goal advantage for a Breck win. (11-10)
anklebreakerMN
05-13-2007, 11:43 PM
its true the players might not pick the schedule but the coach and AD do.
actually this year the coaches dont make the schedule...if you notice, every team plays all of their confrence games, and thats about it, with the exception of the Osseo / MG situation where they were added late to the schedule...so no the coaches did not make up the schedules this year, and if you notice, most AD's went to the meetings this year to deal with other conflicts for the stadiums - ...(aka track meets) - not to mention in sure most ad's arent totally familar with the states programs just yet
Laxmom.....
BSM did not make up the osseo game due to scheduling conflicts with both teams, thats what our coach told us...Stillwater was a must reschedule apparently due to senior night at BSM...we went and watched, and BSM looked pretty good, but stillwater does have some nice players, and considering they'll be varsity next year, they'll be pretty good...
BSM24
05-13-2007, 11:55 PM
STX-WSL Minnesota Boys Top 10
1. Benilde-St. Margaret's: 12-0
2. Eden Prairie: 11-1
3. Blake: 11-1
STX-WSL Minnesota Girls Top 10
1. Eden Prairie: 12-0
2. Blake: 11-1
3. Benilde-St. Margaret's: 11-1
Just thought it was interesting how the same 3 schools are in the top 3 for guys and girls
LAXMomx3
05-14-2007, 12:28 AM
most ad's arent totally familar with the states programs just yet
I don't know about AD's (because they should be talking to their coaches), but I know the main stream press isn't. Disappointing coverage this season is an understatement. I am beginning to really hate baseball because that's all they write about. Oh yeah.. and a full column on hockey mouthguard rule changes. I know MN loves it's hockey, but gimme a break!
BSM did not make up the osseo game due to scheduling conflicts with both teams, thats what our coach told us...Stillwater was a must reschedule apparently due to senior night at BSM.
Makes better sense. Tradition and recognition for seniors is a huge deal and they deserve the final home stadium salutes for sure.
anklebreakerMN
05-14-2007, 01:56 PM
http://westsidelax.com/index.php?id=57,2234,0,0,1,0
found this today...congrats, I knew Blake was up there at one point this year as well...
starslax3
05-14-2007, 07:12 PM
could be wrong but i dont see blake on that list? did u mean Benilde?
starslax3
05-14-2007, 07:14 PM
ok now i get it........
LAXMomx3
05-14-2007, 08:31 PM
Section 6 Posted. All games are on Weds, May 16 @ 7pm
#1 Eden Prairie (11-1) v. #8 Hopkins (1-10) @ Eden Prairie
#4 Armstrong (7-5) v. #5 Maple Grove (8-3) @ Armstrong
#3 Wayzata (8-4) v. #6 Cooper (4-9) @ Wayzata
#2 Minnetonka (8-3) v. #7 Chaska (2-10) @ Edina CC Stadium
MSHSL-only Top 20 Laxpower
#3 Eden Prairie
#4 Minnetonka
#7 Wayzata
#13 Armstrong
senorlax17
05-14-2007, 10:07 PM
Is it just me, or is anyone else not very happy about how the section assignments are? And how the winners of sections 5 and 6 play in the first round of state? First of all in section 5, only one team can win it, even though five of the teams are top 10, including the #1 and #2 teams. Then, in section 6, there are another three top 10 teams, including the #3 and #4 teams, and again only one of those will make it to state. On top of that, section 6 winner plays section 5 winner in the state semis, so only one of the top 5 teams will make it to the championship, and the highest ranked team they could play will be #6 or #10, while #1-5 and #7-9 all have to get through each other to make it there. I dunno if it's just me, but I think section 6 and especially section 5 are stacked, and the fact that those winners have to play each other is even more ridiculous. Let's hear some more thoughts on this.
E612Lax
05-14-2007, 10:13 PM
agreed, but the best will win regardless
woodze13
05-14-2007, 10:16 PM
Well seeing how the sections are set before the season i dont see how they could have predicted so many highly ranked teams in one section. I do think there could have been some better thought because alot of the preseason estimates were decently close so they could have set some more equal sections. also i thought that after sections and before state there is another ranking meeting and teams are set up ranked 1-4 and 1 plays 4 and 2 plays 3 so its not set who will play who yet however i could be wrong.
woodze13
05-14-2007, 10:18 PM
Prior lake 23
Shattuck 0
first game section 3 playoff
CCLAX07
05-14-2007, 10:25 PM
history repeated it self big time
Prior lake vs lakeville
eagan vs eastivew (will be a good game)
but i think eagan will beat eastview so i dont think they will make it to state
elitelax22
05-14-2007, 10:34 PM
hey cclax07 dose this woodze13 kid think he knows something about lacrosse, someone should get him kicked off of here.
LAXMomx3
05-14-2007, 10:40 PM
Woodze is correct. (And so was I when I said I felt they had the #1 seed locked up :-). Anyway.. There is a seed meeting on Saturday at something like 10:30 in the morning to set the seeds for the 4-team state finals tournament. So.. section 6 and section 5 may very well not face off against each other if they remain 1 and 2 seed coming from that meeting. The meeting is at the MSHSL offices in Brooklyn Center. There is actually an entire document that explains how the process works on the same page as I gave you for the section brackets. Seed meetings are like Vegas. What happens at seed meetings stay in seed meetings.
slidearly27
05-14-2007, 11:15 PM
Prior lake 23
Shattuck 0
first game section 3 playoff
you guyz from PL talk alot. cory youll be lucky to win wed let alone take3.
i doubt we play u guys at state, yul be gone b4 that lol
LAXMomx3
05-14-2007, 11:25 PM
you guyz from PL talk alot. cory youll be lucky to win wed let alone take3.
i doubt we play u guys at state, yul be gone b4 that lol
You completely misunderstood. He was saying the game was played in section 3. First round of play offs. I don't think one could qualify that as talking a lot. Plus... 23-0? I'd say that was worth a small hoot. It would seem for all the hockey prowess and domination among state teams, Shattuck's lax helmets were handed to them this season.
LAXMomx3
05-14-2007, 11:34 PM
Section Semi-Finals
#3:
Prior Lake v. Lakeville @ Prior Lake ?
Eagan v. Eastview @ Eagan ?
#4:
Osseo vs. Centennial @ Osseo 6pm
Hill-Murray v. Roseville @ Osseo 4pm
(Revenge: Still a 2-goal game, only this time Roseville topped Mahtomedi 3-1)
mnlax9
05-15-2007, 07:01 AM
Section Semi-Finals
#3:
Prior Lake v. Lakeville @ Prior Lake ?
Eagan v. Eastview @ Eagan ?
#4:
Osseo vs. Centennial @ Osseo 6pm
Hill-Murray v. Roseville @ Osseo 4pm
(Revenge: Still a 2-goal game, only this time Roseville topped Mahtomedi 3-1)
yes its correct if thats what the question marks mean
LAXMomx3
05-15-2007, 07:04 AM
? marks mean I didn't see a time listed.
mnlax4life
05-15-2007, 08:01 AM
Heres my predictions for the final four and seedings:
(and i'm not saying these are the best four teams, but its how the sections are)
1. Blake
2. EP
3. Osseo
4. Prior Lake
Minnesota Laxer
05-15-2007, 09:48 AM
My guess is
Blake, Osseo, Wayzata, Eastview
mnlax4life
05-15-2007, 10:04 AM
My guess is
Blake, Osseo, Wayzata, Eastview
Who would get the 2 seed? Osseo or Wayzata?
Minnesota Laxer
05-15-2007, 10:19 AM
Probably Osseo if those teams make it. I'm just assuming we'll see some upsets, I can't imagine all the number 1 seeds making it to state.
anklebreakerMN
05-15-2007, 10:43 AM
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mnlax4life
05-15-2007, 02:22 PM
Probably Osseo if those teams make it. I'm just assuming we'll see some upsets, I can't imagine all the number 1 seeds making it to state.
Not like it will really matter though because the 2 plays the 3 anyway.
And I do think all the top seeds will win except for BSM.
Minnesota Laxer
05-15-2007, 03:04 PM
Yea thanks, we all figured that out in your post earlier
CCLAX07
05-15-2007, 05:15 PM
you guyz from PL talk alot. cory youll be lucky to win wed let alone take3.
i doubt we play u guys at state, yul be gone b4 that lol
who are you?
and we dont talk big we say facts i nvr say nething till after a game and im not even thinking about state yet
one game at a time
LAXMomx3
05-15-2007, 09:14 PM
BSM v. Kennedy (13-0)
Jefferson v. Edina (5-6)
Breck v. AHA (4-6)
Blake v. Mpls (13-6)
Section 5 Semi-Finals: Thursday, June 16
BSM v. Edina @ BSM 5:30
Blake v. AHA @ BSM 7:30
CCLAX07
05-15-2007, 10:21 PM
edina against BSM is gonna be interesting
mnlax4life
05-16-2007, 07:34 AM
edina against BSM is gonna be interesting
BSM should win, but it will be close.
LAXMomx3
05-16-2007, 09:16 AM