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roswelllax85
04-28-2007, 09:23 AM
I have been seein alot of dolomites for sale recently on the forums. Just wanted to know why because i am thinkin about gettin one

WIlax
04-28-2007, 09:28 AM
theres nothing wrong with them..I have one..its an amazing shaft..I guess people just dont want them..I know theres nothing wrong though

RIT37FO
04-28-2007, 09:28 AM
i dont think there is anything wrong with them at all

roswelllax85
04-28-2007, 09:30 AM
alright guys thanks for the imput

spyopticgoggles
04-28-2007, 09:36 AM
theres nothing wrong with them but they are on the heavy side. they arent AL6000 weight but they are a little bit heavier than kpros

ghs/wylax
04-28-2007, 09:43 AM
They are also fairly expensive. At around $130, I'd rather get two kryptos and have a second stick.

italianstalion
04-28-2007, 10:15 AM
theres nothing wrong with them but they are on the heavy side. they arent AL6000 weight but they are a little bit heavier than kpros
are you kidding me? They are so light its unbelieveable. They are tad bit heavier than a kpro but that took more about 20 minutes to figure out because they feel almost the same. There was a thread somewhere were AM17 and a few other guys said that their dolomites were lighter than their kpros. I myself cant really tell the difference. And on the shaft strengths sticky the dol dpole is only 8 grams heavier than the kpro dpole. I doubt that anyone could feel the difference of 8 grams which is probably 4 grams in a shorty.

spyopticgoggles
04-28-2007, 10:21 AM
are you kidding me? They are so light its unbelieveable. They are tad bit heavier than a kpro but that took more about 20 minutes to figure out because they feel almost the same. There was a thread somewhere were AM17 and a few other guys said that their dolomites were lighter than their kpros. I myself cant really tell the difference. And on the shaft strengths sticky the dol dpole is only 8 grams heavier than the kpro dpole. I doubt that anyone could feel the difference of 8 grams which is probably 4 grams in a shorty.

i have a diamond and my brother has a dolomite and my diamond is noticeably lighter

gigo567
04-28-2007, 11:32 AM
i have a diamond and my brother has a dolomite and my diamond is noticeably lighter
Thats really weird, my Dolomite is the same weight as my dad's Kpro(which is a cut down Goalie shaft, that means the Kpro has thinner sidewalls).

Laxboy219
04-28-2007, 11:34 AM
The dolomites arnt heavy at all. There about the same weight as the kpros and as strong as any titanium shaft out there. I would definatly look into getting 1 if i were u.

spyopticgoggles
04-28-2007, 02:37 PM
yea i would use one over my diamond but nobody on my team wants to buy a diamond

Lax101
04-28-2007, 04:00 PM
Read my review of it on www.LaxNation.com.

Tool
04-28-2007, 04:19 PM
Read my review of it on www.LaxNation.com.


Honest review, but some of your logic is flawed, especially on the weight issue. I am one of the strongest people on my team, and I bought a light stick for exactly that-weight. It doesn't mean I have "No strength in my upper body" because I am aware that I do, but why would I use a heavier shaft instead of a lighter one? I can understand if you're talking about things like the difference between a kryptolyte and krypto pro, theres no difference to me, but when I bought a lighter shaft I've had a better game because of it.

lax4life6
04-28-2007, 04:32 PM
Some people are way too picky. A light shaft can only do so much. Yes I can understand not wanting to use a Fatboy but the difference between a Kpro and Dolomite is so small, you wouldnt even notice it on the field. I use a Harrow and people tell me all the time that it's heavy but on the field you don't notice it at all.

Lax101
04-28-2007, 04:57 PM
Honest review, but some of your logic is flawed, especially on the weight issue. I am one of the strongest people on my team, and I bought a light stick for exactly that-weight. It doesn't mean I have "No strength in my upper body" because I am aware that I do, but why would I use a heavier shaft instead of a lighter one? I can understand if you're talking about things like the difference between a kryptolyte and krypto pro, theres no difference to me, but when I bought a lighter shaft I've had a better game because of it.
If you REALLY think you're "game" has increased by a noticeable ammount with a lighter shaft, you are looking way too much into gear.

Lighter gear may make you more comfortable, but it won't make you a better player.

Tool
04-28-2007, 05:20 PM
If you REALLY think you're "game" has increased by a noticeable ammount with a lighter shaft, you are looking way too much into gear.

Lighter gear may make you more comfortable, but it won't make you a better player.

Actually it did, and you can speculate as much as you want but it won't make a difference. Switching from an al6000 to a warrior platinum was one of the best decisions I've made. I can throw more checks, faster, and more accurately than I could with the heavier al6000. Weight does make a difference, I don't see how you could possibly argue against that.

MACDADDY
04-28-2007, 05:23 PM
ya our best attackman (we on jv) uses a brine al6000. weight has nothing to to do with how good you can be.

Tool
04-28-2007, 06:16 PM
ya our best attackman (we on jv) uses a brine al6000. weight has nothing to to do with how good you can be.


I'm talking about d-pole, if you guys didn't know. The STX al6000 is what I used previously.

spyopticgoggles
04-28-2007, 07:02 PM
Some people are way too picky. A light shaft can only do so much. Yes I can understand not wanting to use a Fatboy but the difference between a Kpro and Dolomite is so small, you wouldnt even notice it on the field. I use a Harrow and people tell me all the time that it's heavy but on the field you don't notice it at all.
yea i agree with you, i said it is slightly heavier than the diamond to give a comparitive weight

roswelllax85
04-28-2007, 07:43 PM
ya our best attackman (we on jv) uses a brine al6000. weight has nothing to to do with how good you can be.
i happin to be the best attack man on my team and guess wat i use. al6000 but i got a splitshat but im lookin for another strong shaft for my arsonal

Lax101
04-29-2007, 12:47 AM
Actually it did, and you can speculate as much as you want but it won't make a difference. Switching from an al6000 to a warrior platinum was one of the best decisions I've made. I can throw more checks, faster, and more accurately than I could with the heavier al6000. Weight does make a difference, I don't see how you could possibly argue against that.
The hundreds of lacrosse coaches and players around the country who tirelessly use the phrase "It's the Wizard, not the Wand" have done so for decades.

A lot of players use shafts heavier than AL6000's-namely the Box players up North. Are you really saying their game would improve if they use a lighter shaft? If this is such a proven fact, then why does a prominent portion of the lacrosse world still use Titanium when it's noticeably heavier than the alloy shafts on the market and barely lighter than stock aluminum?

In fact, from a marketing standpoint, why is the most expensive shaft (and the shaft advertised as the highest calibre shaft) the titanium handle? If alloy shafts give that known advantage with being light, and most shafts today can take a beating, regardless of the metal, then why is titanium still being billed as the top end shaft, and why is titanium still present on every major company's shaft line? I'll go even further by saying that one of the most prominent lacrosse company outside of the big 4 (Brine, Gait, STX, Warrior) has now made a titanium handle.

Let's look at this in a physics aspect: How much does the momentum or force of a check change given the 1-2 ounce difference between a light and heavy shaft? If any physics major wants to do the math, I'll bet it's negligible statistically.

And how can you say you can throw a higher number of checks with a heavier shaft? Do your arms get that tired using a 2 ounce lighter shaft that you can't throw as many late in the game? Is it actually cumbersome to throw a check with an aluminum D-Pole? Because I've played defense with aluminum and it didn't feel cumbersome to me. I don't see any lacrosse players being sore the day after a game or practice because "they were throwing around checks with their longpole all day long".

Please, someone get in Rockstar to explain this in a concise manner.

LaxMaxVince
04-29-2007, 08:19 AM
Lax101 has a point, any lacrosse player should play exactly the same whether theyre using a db803 or a hickory woody. Even a 5 oz difference shouldnt be a problem as long as theyre doing everything correctly.

Tool, Im sure upgrading to a plat alloy was beneficial, but really you should have been able to do the same things with your al6000 as you do with your play alloy.

When dpoles start weighing ten pounds...THEN you can say that lighter shafts significantly improved your game.

Tool
04-29-2007, 09:57 AM
The hundreds of lacrosse coaches and players around the country who tirelessly use the phrase "It's the Wizard, not the Wand" have done so for decades.

maybe so, but that isn't my case

A lot of players use shafts heavier than AL6000's-namely the Box players up North. Are you really saying their game would improve if they use a lighter shaft? If this is such a proven fact, then why does a prominent portion of the lacrosse world still use Titanium when it's noticeably heavier than the alloy shafts on the market and barely lighter than stock aluminum?

Titanium is stronger than alloy, and also more expensive. The difference between an STX al6000 and an STX TI is a lot, I've had expirience with both.

In fact, from a marketing standpoint, why is the most expensive shaft (and the shaft advertised as the highest calibre shaft) the titanium handle? If alloy shafts give that known advantage with being light, and most shafts today can take a beating, regardless of the metal, then why is titanium still being billed as the top end shaft, and why is titanium still present on every major company's shaft line? I'll go even further by saying that one of the most prominent lacrosse company outside of the big 4 (Brine, Gait, STX, Warrior) has now made a titanium handle.

Just curious, when did I say titanium WAS NOT dominant? I never praised alloy for being the greatest shaft in the world, in fact, I had a major bend the first games I used it. You pretty much answered yourself right there. Because to you : The difference between an alloy and titanium shaft is SO SO incredibly vast in your opinion, I might as well agree with you, or maybe not. I would have bought a titanium or a harrow d-pole if I HAD the money, but I only had 70 dollars, and look what was in my price range, an alloy shaft that has been working just as good as the people's titaniums.

Let's look at this in a physics aspect: How much does the momentum or force of a check change given the 1-2 ounce difference between a light and heavy shaft? If any physics major wants to do the math, I'll bet it's negligible statistically.
Oh my god, now you're just pulling out random facts from your *** and pretending it relates to the argument. Heres what I said in my previous post : "I can throw more checks, faster and more accurately than I could before"

And how can you say you can throw a higher number of checks with a heavier shaft? Do your arms get that tired using a 2 ounce lighter shaft that you can't throw as many late in the game? Is it actually cumbersome to throw a check with an aluminum D-Pole? Because I've played defense with aluminum and it didn't feel cumbersome to me. I don't see any lacrosse players being sore the day after a game or practice because "they were throwing around checks with their longpole all day long".

Here you go again, the speculative moron trying to act as if he knew everything in the world. Here's a notice, you don't. No, my arms don't get tired, not my arms aren't sore after a game, and no it didn't feel cumbersome to throw a last minute check, because that wasn't the reason I got a lighter shaft. I remember, somewhere in this thread, oh there is it, let me quote it for you one more time, so you can grasp it and have time to digest this piece of info. "I can throw more checks, faster and more accurately than I could before" That's all there is to it, that's the only reason I bought a lighter shaft.

Please, someone get in Rockstar to explain this in a concise manner

Or maybe I can teach you a few things about common sense, come on buddy, it's not all speculations and facts that base an individuals experience

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LaxManVince, I'm sure that's a valid point, but if everyone was the same, wouldn't they all use the heavy hickory to get stronger checks? But heres the deal, everyone is different in what they like, I prefer the lighter shaft over the heavier shaft, nothing more to it, and I have saw improvements in my game because of it.