Goalie question

[JGLAX91]

i just played a game today and got called for slashing. whats the problem you ask... im a goalie. now, the reff told me to serve my penalty in the box but all my teamates were saying that he should have taken another person off instead of me. what was the correct thing???

[tiplax]

i believe you must serve under NFHS rules(i'm a player not a ref so don't quote me on that)

in a game the other day, the other goalie got called for a penalty so the ref's gave them time to warm up another goalie

[3rdPersonPlural]

In a perfect world, there is a back up suited and ready to go. That guy gets a minute to warm up, and then off we go.

In a less than perfect world, the goalie has to shed his gear, dress some poor schmoo to tend the goal for a minute, then warm him up for a minute, then off we go.

After the penalty is served, the coach has to call a time out to get his starter dressed again.

Refs have been known to let the in-home serve for the goalie, but that is not really fair. Attackmen are the least valuable commodity when playing man down.

In the world according to Plural, when there is no dressed backup, if it's a barn burner game, we dress and play a backup. Those are the rules.

If the game is already decided for all intents and purposes, I tell the goalie's coach that we'll waste 2 minutes getting his keeper stripped and another padded, then he'll have to use a time out if he wants his starter back in before the quarter break. I offer to propose to the other coach that he lose a time out and a defenseman of the opponent's choice sits the penalty.

I have yet to have this declined by either side.

[LaxRef]

Goalies serve all their own penalties in NCAA and NFHS lacrosse according to the rules. Don't do the crime if you can't do the time!

I agree with what others have said about sometimes we let someone else serve (e.g., JV game with no backup); however, it is markedly unfair to other officials to do this without making it clear to everyone involved that you're making an exception because the opposing coach agreed to it in the spirit of keeping the game moving. If you don't do this, then players and coaches latch onto this fool notion that the in-home is supposed to serve penalties for the goalie.

We have a lot of issues with that around here because there's so much hockey played here.

[3rdPersonPlural]

...... it is markedly unfair to other officials to do this without making it clear to everyone involved that you're making an exception because the opposing coach agreed to it in the spirit of keeping the game moving.

Indeed this should have been pointed out in my post.

The Plural variable is ALWAYS proposed as an exception to established rule.

I always explain to my partner what I am going to propose and why - with the scenario dependancy emphasized.

I also make sure that the coaches realize that this is an a la carte exception offered at my whim during my games.

The RULE is that the keeper sits his own fouls. That must be made clear.

[LaxRef]

Indeed this should have been pointed out in my post.

The Plural variable is ALWAYS proposed as an exception to established rule.

I always explain to my partner what I am going to propose and why - with the scenario dependancy emphasized.

I also make sure that the coaches realize that this is an a la carte exception offered at my whim during my games.

The RULE is that the keeper sits his own fouls. That must be made clear.

And I wasn't suggesting that you didn't explain this, just that everyone else should be crystal clear on what's going on if they employ the same procedures!

[LaxG-oalieSJ.NB]

is this box or feild

[gpatterson]

For what it's worth, in Illinois HS games (NCAA rules) we have an exception which provides that the in-home serves goalies' penalties if they are 2 min. or less. Hardly ever see calls against the goalie anyway.

[CardinalPuff]

And I wasn't suggesting that you didn't explain this, just that everyone else should be crystal clear on what's going on if they employ the same procedures!
i'm far too lazy to employ the "Plural Variable"....i just ruthlessly enforce the rule.....

[farside268]

For what it's worth, in Illinois HS games (NCAA rules) we have an exception which provides that the in-home serves goalies' penalties if they are 2 min. or less. Hardly ever see calls against the goalie anyway.
Yikes, that still gives the goalie quite a bit of room to be an arse. For our youth games in MI, the goalie serves all USC penalties and (I belive) anything greater than a minute. The PCC leagues also usually allow the in-home to serve as long as the penalty isn't USC.

[wolfenburg]

In Germany there is a nominated defender rule:
If a team has no backup goalie for all Technical fouls by the goalie the ND goes out. If the one team uses this rule the oponent may do so as well (is should not be a disadvantege to have a backup goalie). Personal fouls are still against the goalie.

[JGLAX91]

well, thanks for the help everybody i was really confused when it happend and its good to know so next time i dont do something stupid again :P.

[Beacher]

is this box or feild
In box a player on the floor at the time of the infraction (chosen by the captain or coach) serves the goalkeeper penalty.

In Canadian minor and HS field a starting longpole nominated at the start of the game serves goalkeeper fouls except for UR, USC and expulsions.