Illinois HS Game Results

[mstrylaxdad]

The old threads have been ruined by a few trash talkers. That leaves Illinois players and fans with no outlet to find out what's happening. Face it, Chicago newspaper coverage of high school lacrosse is dismal.

Lets try a new thread with these ground rules:

1. Report game scores and a summary of the game. No trash talking or opinions about how bad a player (or team) is.

2. Playoff predictions are fine when the playoffs are ready to start, but keep them simple and without negative comments.

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If we don't keep the thread up to the Lacrosse Forum standards it will be promptly closed. We can't stop bad posts, but perhaps the thread will have a chance if we let the moderators know we are serious about keeping our thread alive.

[spenny]

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[LaxStar12]

What happened At Lyons and Lake Forest game? Results?

[lax and let die]

LF 8 Libertyville 10

[LaXpLaYeR20]

wow what happened at the LF and Libertyville game?

[LTlaxguy]

LT won over LF 6-4

[lvillelax26]

...............

[hcDevils391]

12-5 win for hinsdale central over marion catholic

[fenwicklax89]

12-5 win over OPRF on tuesday
9-7 win over benet tonight

[lvillelax26]

libertyville 10 lake forest 8

[groundball88]

SICP 10 Lane Tech 9

[JimmyJack]

Glenbrook North was leading NT 6-3 when I had to leave at Half time. Anyone know what happened?

[stclax2]

stc 15 neuqua 5

it was 8-0 in the first quarter until we took the starters out. hah ziggie played defense.

stc 9 WWS 2

starters didn't play much, good game for the 3rd adn 4th line middies.

[fsflaxer30]

12-5 win over OPRF on tuesday
9-7 win over benet tonight
That game was against you guys on tuesday was awful, but...


LT 9 OP 5

[laxme]

Does anyone actually know the playoff system or the list of A & B teams? IHSLA has this thing so backwards, I can't keep track. This is my best guess, I am not sure about Naperville North, Fenwick, Fremd, or St. Viator. Anyone know? When they set up the A & B div, each team is supposed to play 16 games vs the same level.

MySeed LaxPower Won Lost vs. Top 10
1 1 Loyola Academy 11 1 7-1
2 2 New Trier 10 2 6-2
3 3 St. Charles 12 1 4-1
4 5 Lyons 12 2 4-2
5 4 Lake Forest 9 4 2-4
6 7 Highland Park 10 3 3-3
7 6 Glenbrook South 8 5 2-5
8 8 Libertyville 7 5 1-5
9 9 Naperville North 13 2 0-2
10 10 Hinsdale Central 4 6 0-4
11 11 Nequa Valley 5 5 0-4
12 12 Stevenson 6 6 0-5
13 16 Glenbrook North 4 8 0-5
14 15 Evanston 3 9 0-7
15 19 WW South 8 8 1-4
16 18 Barrington 5 6 0-2
17 20 Oak Park 3 8 1-7
18 14 Fenwick 11 4 0-2
19 13 St. Viator 10 4 0-0
20 17 Fremd 7 4 0-0

Remaining Schedule
Loyola Academy 3 (GBN-2, NT)
New Trier 3(HP, LA, Evan)
St. Charles 2(LT, WV)
Lyons 2(St. C, HC)
Lake Forest 3(OPRF, VH, Stev)
Highland Park 3(NT, EVAN, GBS)
Glenbrook South 2(GBN, HP)
Libertyville 2(Stev, Mund)
Naperville North 3 (MC, WWS, NV)
Hinsdale Central 2(NV, LT)
Nequa Valley 3(WV, HC, NN)
Stevenson 3(Barr, LV, LF)
Glenbrook North 3
Evanston 4(WWS, HP, NT, OPRF)
WW South 3
Barrington 5
Oak Park 3
Fenwick 4
St. Viator 4
Fremd 3

[NVLAXDAD]

NV 13 - Geneva 1

[LTlaxguy]

The score of lt oprf was 11-5

[mstrylaxdad]

I believe in your rankings Fenwick is the only B team. Viator is an A, and I am pretty sure Fremd is an A. Look for a future post of B teams.

[mstrylaxdad]

Unofficial. I believe seedings and placement are on the 20th. If you think there is an error be patient until the 20th. No need to debate on this forum.

Team School
A Barrington High School
A Conant H. S.
A Evanston High School
A Fremd High School
A Glenbrook North High School
A Glenbrook South High School
A Highland Park High School
A Hinsdale Central High School
A Hoffman Estates H. S.
A Lake Forest High School
A Libertyville High School
A Loyola Academy
A Lyons Township High School
A Naperville Central High School
A Naperville North High School
A Neuqua Valley High School
A New Trier High School
A Oak Park/River Forest H S
A Palatine H. S.
A Schaumburg H. S.
A St. Viator High School
A St. Charles East - North High School
A Stevenson High School
A Wheaton-Warrenville South H S

B Benet Academy
B Champaign Centennial H. S.
B Deerfield High School
B Fenwick High School
B Geneva High School
B Glenbard West High School
B Grayslake Central High School
B Homewood-Flossmoor
B Lake Zurich H. S.
B Lane Tech High School
B Marian Catholic High School
B Mather High School
B Mundelein High School
B Northside Prep
B Notre Dame High School
B Sandburg High School
B St. Rita High School
B St. Ignatius High School
B Taft High School
B Vernon Hills H. S.
B Waubonsie Valley H. S.
B West Chicago High School

[fsflaxer30]

The score of lt oprf was 11-5
My bad, I was thinking of last year.
but OP had 6

[ethslax12]

yesterday: evanston 7 GBS 13. it was 5-6 at the half, and then we just jagged, like always

[nnhsfog37]

nn 11 marion 8

[ethslax12]

evanston 10 WWS 8

[laxme]

LaxPower Scores For Today

IL Evanston Township 10, Wheaton-Warrenville So 8
IL Fenwick 10, Deerfield 8
IL Lake Forest 12, Oak Park-River Forest 2
IL Lake Zurich 8, West Chicago 0
IL Loyola Academy 12, Glenbrook North 6
IL Naperville North 11, Marian Catholic 8
IL Palatine 12, Conant 0

[Sik Laxer]

how was that libertyville tournament?

[PalatineLax93]

how was that libertyville tournament?

rumor has it that libertyville set it up so that they played all easy teams and played all their games in the stadium. i don't know who won tho.

[Rootboy]

rumor has it that libertyville set it up so that they played all easy teams and played all their games in the stadium. i don't know who won tho.

I don't think it is a rumor... its a fact of life. You want an easy draw, organize your own tournament!!!! I thought the tournament went well. There was a variety of teams on hand. All our games could have gone either way and most of the games I watched were pretty even.

The future of Illinois lacrosse is in the hands of these JV players, and I personally think the future looks very good. Props to the coaches out there....They are as good as any at this level, anywhere in the country (yes, I'm a coach!!!)

[ThePuceRooster]

Libertyville definitely rigged the tourney...they did play all easy teams (won all of them like 10-1) and played in their stadium everytime. But what are you going to do?

[lvillelax26]

libertyville won the libertyville tournament...we beat loyola 5-4 in the final...we did play some bad teams...but we beat a good loyola team in the final...

[Chit-TownLAX*55]

Just wonderin what the people who have played St. Rita thought of the team since this is our first year as a varsity program and only our second year of existence

[Rootboy]

libertyville won the libertyville tournament...we beat loyola 5-4 in the final...we did play some bad teams...but we beat a good loyola team in the final...


P-A-R-I-T-Y!!!

[mstrylaxdad]

Just wonderin what the people who have played St. Rita thought of the team since this is our first year as a varsity program and only our second year of existence


Very good for second year program. Good signs of ball movement and typical early program over emphasis on hitting over speed and position. Be patient, I believe it takes about 4 years for a program to get it's legs. Make sure you encourage the underclassmen to stay with the program. If you can get about 80-100 players in the total program (F, JV, V) your program will flourish.

[LaxStar12]

STC 11 ... LT 9 :) we were down 1-5 at half and rallied 10 goals to put it away . very nice game

[stclax2]

it's true, but i think we were down 1-6 at halftime. but anyways it was a great game.

[PalatineLax93]

PHS 12 Conant 0

and laxpower says : LA 5 NT 8

[hcDevils391]

Hinsdale Central 12 Neqeua Valley 11 LAXpower has the score backwards. We were up 11-4 after 3 when our coach pulled the starters to begin the 4th. NV kept playing their starters and made the game way too close. They made a great run in the 4th to their credit. They didn't give up.

[nnhsfog37]

^^thats what we love about em. we lost 7-6 to wws. its tough to beat a team 3 times, they just wanted it more.

[ethslax12]

evanston 7, HP 8 in OT, stuck with them the whole game, it just never makes sense to me

[NVLAXDAD]

Hinsdale Central 12 Neqeua Valley 11 LAXpower has the score backwards. We were up 11-4 after 3 when our coach pulled the starters to begin the 4th. NV kept playing their starters and made the game way too close. They made a great run in the 4th to their credit. They didn't give up.

Ah, there's nothing like playing in a driving spring rain storm is there. Props to you guys. It was a pretty good game. If only we can get a quicker start. It's tough when you dig that big of a hole at the start of a game. I can tell you, as a parent, it was a hell of a lot of fun to watch. Good luck with Lyons tomorrow and good luck in the playoffs. Oh, I almost forgot, good luck to all your seniors as well.

[NHDSlax]

Notre Dame was up 2-1 on Mudelein at half before the game was called due to lightning.

And to Chit- town lax 55....your program is definately one to watch out for. You got the hitting down. Ball movement comes next.

[MidwestLAx101]

yeah any one check out the new lax america site all the summmer teams are up

[Twixt]

evanston 7, HP 8 in OT, stuck with them the whole game, it just never makes sense to me

yeah i play for H.P. It was a hell of a game. I just wish the field could have been at least 1/4 descent.

[LAX383]

Notre Dame was up 2-1 on Mudelein at half before the game was called due to lightning.

Rumor has it that the game was called during Q2 and never made it to half time. :sad:

[NHDSlax]

Rumor has it that the game was called during Q2 and never made it to half time. :sad:


Yes...my mistake. The game was called with about 5:30 left in the 2nd. It will be resumed Saturday morning right where it left off.

On another note, Fenwick smoked Notre Dame today. To any Fenwick kids, who is that #47 D-Pole? What year is he? Any plans to play in college? I have never seen a d-pole suck up ground balls like that.

[ethslax12]

evanston 6 New Trier 13

[NVLAXDAD]

Neuqua over Naperville North 13-8.

[LaxStar12]

Stc 12... Waubonsie 5... played 3rd and 4th lines for most of the game.

[Sik Laxer]

LT 11 HC 5
congrats to lyons on a great regular season!

[laxme]

Haven't seen the Fenwick kid play, but I have heard he is possibly going to Notre Dame. Can anyone verify? Actually I just verified from Lax Power, "Daniel Schmitt - LSM/Defense - Palatine, Ill./Fremd High School

A standout in lacrosse and hockey at Fremd High School ... two-time team captain in lacrosse ... captured team MVP honors during his junior season ... will participate in the U.S. Lacrosse Illinois All-Star Game ... the only four-year starter on his lacrosse squad ... notched four assists as a sophomore and five as a junior, which were the most for any LSM on his team ... helped lead his team to the state playoffs for the first time ever during his freshman campaign ... plays defense in hockey ... captained his prep hockey team twice along with garnering all-conference and team MVP honors as a junior ... has played with the Glen Ellyn Flames Hockey Club for the past two years ... won the state tournament and represented Illinois in the Central District Championships along with winning the prestigious International Silverstick Tournament in Sarnia, Ontario ... his sister, Kristin, plays club water polo at Notre Dame and his brother, David, plays club hockey at Illinois.


Seeds come out Sunday, but here is how I see it. I had a tough time ranking St. Charles, the win over Lyons was big, but New Trier and Loyola have played more top tier teams so I had to give them nod, whether or not the coaches see it that way- time will tell. GBS jumped a spot by beating HP. I also had tough time differentiating from Hinsdale, Nequa, & Naperville really you could put those 3 at 9, 10, 11 in any order. Should be an exciting playoffs.

Seed LP Won Lost vs. Top 10
1 2 New Trier 12 2 7-2
2 1 Loyola Academy 13 2 7-2
3 3 St. Charles 14 1 6-1
4 5 Lyons 12 3 4-3
5 4 Lake Forest 11 4 2-4
6 6 Glenbrook South 10 5 2-5
7 7 Highland Park 11 4 2-4
8 8 Libertyville 9 5 1-5
9 12 Hinsdale Central 5 7 1-5
10 10 Nequa Valley 8 6 0-4
11 9 Naperville North 14 4 0-2
12 11 St. Viator 15 4 0-0
13 16 W.W South 10 9 1-4
14 14 Evanston 4 11 0-7
15 17 Stevenson 6 7 0-5
16 22 Palatine 9 6 0-1
17 18 Fremd 9 6 0-0
18 19 Barrington 7 7 0-2
19 20 Glenbrook North 4 10 0-5
20 23 Oak Park 5 9 1-8
21 25 Hoffman Estates 7 9 0-1
22 31 Schaumburg 2 12 0-2
23 37 Naperville Central 2 13 0-4
24 35 Conant 2 14 0-1

[hclax14]

to let you know, the seedings are not at all based on the stuff you will think it does.

im pretty sure its based on the wins you have in your division (A or B). so for example, i think we figured out we will be about the 20 seed as we only won 2 A games.

[mstrylaxdad]

to let you know, the seedings are not at all based on the stuff you will think it does.

im pretty sure its based on the wins you have in your division (A or B). so for example, i think we figured out we will be about the 20 seed as we only won 2 A games.

Assumption is correct.

[laxme]

to let you know, the seedings are not at all based on the stuff you will think it does.

im pretty sure its based on the wins you have in your division (A or B). so for example, i think we figured out we will be about the 20 seed as we only won 2 A games.

Well that sucks for you because only 16 get into the playoffs. Again, they are my seedings based on who I think are the best not really meant to be predictions. In the past, it was NY State rules. The system is getting better, but still flawed. The Mid Sub League of Barrington, Palatine, Fremd, St. Viator, Hoffman Estates, Conant, Schaumburg is really below average, but by playing each other they rack up the A division victories. If you were to put an OPRF, Evanston, Hinsdale Central or GBN in that division; they would probably win it.

[NVLAXDAD]

Actually, if you work backwards from the Championship game, 32 teams will make the playoffs in "A" I don't think we have 32 "A" teams at this moment. I know last year, everyone made the playoffs, with byes going to the top teams. I don't know if that's the case this year, but I would think it is. Don't know for sure though. Guess we'll find out Sunday.

[ron_burgundy]

word on the street has nt 1, stc 2, loyola 3, LT 4, lake forest 5, and get this...viator 6.

[viator29]

word on the street has nt 1, stc 2, loyola 3, LT 4, lake forest 5, and get this...viator 6.

who said that

[LaxStar12]

word on the street has nt 1, stc 2, loyola 3, LT 4, lake forest 5, and get this...viator 6.


thats what ive been hearing also. from an un named source.

[PalatineLax93]

word on the street has nt 1, stc 2, loyola 3, LT 4, lake forest 5, and get this...viator 6.

viator 6 would be ..... well..... different i guess

if those are what the rankings actually are it really shows how big the NT LA game is, loyola would have dropped 2 slots

[HCLAXzorz13]

yea all the a teams make it but it there are ever 32 a teams then that would be the max but for now everyone makes the playofss

[groundball88]

the playoffs are based on a points ranking system you get 10 points for beating a team in your division with a .750 or better record, 8 points for beating a team with a .500 record, 6 for .250 and 4 points for a .250 or less.
Likewise, if you lose to a .750 or better team, you get 4, 3 for losing to a .500, 2 for losing to .250 and 1 point for a lose to another team.
At the end of the season the team with the most points is the highest seed, so if a team like st. viator stacked their schedule with easy A division opponents, they will be one of the higher seeds

[groundball88]

also the ratings have absolutely nothing to do with laxpower

[NHDSlax]

Notre Dame over Mundelein 9-8 in 2 OT. Great game.

[hcDevils391]

Is there a listing somewhere of A divison teams? Also do teams get points for playing "B" division teams or non-Illinios teams?

[LaxStar12]

NT lost to HP .... any details on what happened?

[chilax]

THE A DIVISION TEAMS FOR THIS YEARS TOURNAMENT

BARRINGTON
PALATINE
FREMD
HOFFMAN ESTATES
SAINT VIATOR
CONANT
SHAUMBURG
HINSDALE CENTRAL
OAK PARK
LYONS TOWNSHIP
NEW TRIER
GLENBROOK NORTH
GLENBROOK SOUTH
EVANSTON
HIGHLAND PARK
ST CHARLES
NEQEUA VALLEY
WHEATON WARRENVILLE SOUTH
NAPERVILLE NORTH
NAPERVILLE CENTRAL
LIBERTYVILLE
STEVENSON
LAKE FOREST
LOYOLA

Before friday and saturdays games the top 6 seeds in order were
1 New Trier
2 Loyola
3 St. Charles
4 Lyons Township
5 Lake Forest
6 St. Viator
Obviously it will be different if NT lost and other top seeded teams played games this weekend.
No points tallied for playing anyone not in your division, even out of state teams

[lvillelax26]

why is st viator so high..........

[JimmyJack]

the playoffs are based on a points ranking system you get 10 points for beating a team in your division with a .750 or better record, 8 points for beating a team with a .500 record, 6 for .250 and 4 points for a .250 or less.
Likewise, if you lose to a .750 or better team, you get 4, 3 for losing to a .500, 2 for losing to .250 and 1 point for a lose to another team.
At the end of the season the team with the most points is the highest seed, so if a team like st. viator stacked their schedule with easy A division opponents, they will be one of the higher seeds


Its not the team with the most points, you take the points and divide by the number of game you played. Only games in you division count.The number 1 seed will have an average score around 7. Meaning they w most of their gmes against teams with an above 500 winning %. This year after NT's loss, Loy, should be the#1 seed with and average of around 6.7. The lowest I can remember in along time. Parity is setting in. Loy with 2 losses a 4opt loss to NT and a 3 pt loss to LF really bring their average down. Nt if they won today would have a 7 pt average. After the loss 3 pts vs an 8 ptwin the average drops. In the past if you won your conference( when their was only 5) you got to be a top 5 seed. So even if you are the second best team in the state but didn't win your conference you droped to the 6 seed. Late 90's LV and LOY where 2 of the top 3 team but in the same conference meant 1 was the 6 seed. Same thing with GBS and NT a couple of times. This year with 8 conference I don't know how they are going to do it. It all gets hammered out tomorrow morning. Should be fun.

[stclax11]

Details on the NT-HP upset needed for sure

[ethslax12]

evanston 11 OPRF 4

[PalatineLax93]

Details on the NT-HP upset needed for sure

seriously dude

[J2040K]

This year has been an awesome year for Illinois lacrosse. There have been a lot of upsets like HP over NT, Libertyville over LF, STC over LF...it's awesome

[LAX383]

Notre Dame over Mundelein 9-8 in 2 OT. Great game.

Thanks for the update.
Sounds like a very evenly matched game.
Must have been exciting to watch.
Looks like Mundelein has improved this year.

383

[chilax]

1st round (Tuesday)
A. Naperville Central (24) @ Glenbrook South (9)
B. Schaumburg (23) @ Libertyville (10)
C. Oake Park (22) @ Barrington (11)
D. Conant (21) @ Fremd (12)
E. Stevenson (20) @ Naperville North (13)
F. Glenbrook North (19) @ Neqeua Valley (14)
G. Hinsdale Central (18) @ Hoffman Estates (15)
H. Evanston (17) @ Wheaton Warrenville (16)

Second Round (Thursday)
Winner game H @ Loyola (1)
Winner game G @ New Trier (2)
Winner game F @ St. Charles (3)
Winner game E @ Lyons Township (4)
Winner game D @ Lake Forest (5)
Winner game C @ St. Viator (6)
Winner game B @ Highland Park (7)
Winner game A @ Palatine (8)

That's the first two rounds

[ethslax12]

how do you know that? is that official?

[chilax]

that's what i was told, official from the coaches meeting this morning

[LaXpLaYeR20]

when do we find out who the all conference, all state, and all american players are?

[centenniallax81]

when do we find out who the all conference, all state, and all american players are?


not only that, but the B Division playoffs aswell????

[chilax]

when do we find out who the all conference, all state, and all american players are?
They did everything this morning, so everything is official as far as i know, need an answer get in touch with your coach, IHSLA doesn't announce it. All information trickles down thru the coaches if you haven't learned that yet.

[laxme]

Interesting pairings. As I suspected the Mid Suburban conference racked up points by beating up on each other to have 4 teams from that conference in the top 12 is a bit ridiculous, but the games will determine if my beliefs are correct.

At first glance, Loyola has a pretty tough road Qtr matchup with GBS, semi with LF/Lyons winner, I think New Trier is liking their position right now. Same can be said for St. Charles a 2nd rnd game vs. a team they have beaten handily twice, and a qtr vs. St. Viator.

1st Round upsets (by seeds)- I'll take Oak Park, & Hinsdale.

[fenwicklax89]

top B seeds -

1. Fenwick
2. Marian Catholic
3. grayslake
4. lane tech
5/6. benet or st ignatius (not sure which)
7. west chicago
8. lake zurich

[IllinoisLax77]

I agree with laxme, can't believe how many Mid Sub teams are ranked high, and how New Trier has an easier road to the finals than Loyola, the #1 seed.

First and foremost, the thing that stands out the most is St. Viator. Seems a bit high considering they didn't play a top ten team the entire year and lost to Marian Catholic, a B team. Then again, I haven't seen them play.

My predictions: I see Oak Park being the spoiler, beating Barrington as well as St. Viator. I think the final four will be the top four seeds.... NT and STC have relatively easy roads (then again HP did beat NT, so who knows) and I think Loyola will squeeze by GBS, same with Lyons over LF. And yes, I think the two perennial powers will duke it out again, Loyola handled Lyons easily and New Trier doubled up STC in the regular season and I don't see any changes. I see Loyola on top, the saying will ring true, defense wins championships.

[fsflaxer30]

I say either HP and Loyola or LT and Loyola

[NHDSlax]

Palatine and Viator being ranked above GBS, Libertyville, and Naperville North is ridiculous.

[MidwestLAx101]

Palatine and Viator being ranked above GBS, Libertyville, and Naperville North is ridiculous.
yeah i 2nd that it is nuts

[mstrylaxdad]

lets not go there...the thread needs to stay focused. Let's just say that the two teams played their schedule as best as they could and the formulas that the "bosses" use put them in the spot they are in. The best teams - excepting upsets - are expected to be there in the end.

[NHDSlax]

lets not go there...the thread needs to stay focused. Let's just say that the two teams played their schedule as best as they could and the formulas that the "bosses" use put them in the spot they are in. The best teams - excepting upsets - are expected to be there in the end.


Yeah...I agree. Any word on the B playoffs yet?

[hclax14]

ok, so friend just told me who the all state team and AA are (its not official, but this is what we have heard)

this is how he sent it to me through aim, so some have names and some dont, relax


-AA- 16 from GBS (middie)
-AA- tom tom from STC (attack)
Cj from STC (middie)
Sanchez from LA (middie)
kid from Fremd apparently going to ND
-AA- Barr from LA (Defense)
-AA- PJ (?) from GBS (defense )
Zack from Grayslake for goalie
faceoff middie from LT
and some unknown kid from viator

[IllinoisLax77]

ok, so friend just told me who the all state team and AA are (its not official, but this is what we have heard)

this is how he sent it to me through aim, so some have names and some dont, relax


-AA- 16 from GBS (middie)
-AA- tom tom from STC (attack)
Cj from STC (middie)
Sanchez from LA (middie)
kid from Fremd apparently going to ND
-AA- Barr from LA (Defense)
-AA- PJ (?) from GBS (defense )
Zack from Grayslake for goalie
faceoff middie from LT
and some unknown kid from viator

16 from GBS is sick

no NT players? thats surprising

[J2040K]

I think that Conor Fox from Libertyville should be all-state. Conor has had some really good games against some really good teams.

[JimmyJack]

How did the NT goalie not make all state.

[fsflaxer30]

How did the NT goalie not make all state.
Yea, I actually kinda wonder that too... I know of some kids getting nominated, but didn't get enough votes,

For LT... did Doten make all conference?

[fastbreakmiddie]

to be honest, i didnt think the NT goalie was that great. He was good, but there were better goalies in state. The goalie from Hinsdale central was pretty good, kid from stc was good and so was "jaws" from lyons. I actually thought the NT backup, the taller kid was just as good as their starter. just my thoughts.

[bobbyd123]

LF 11 Stevensen 3 did some good things, we did some ok things, but overall we did some decent things i must say.

[NHDSlax]

Playoffs posted here
http://www.ihsla.org/playoff.shtml

[fastbreakmiddie]

what date and time will be the state finals this year?

[hclax14]

doten, gralen and dixon made 1st team all conference for close, i got it for LSM even though i only take faceoffs then play close exclusively...


and the grayslake goalie is pretty good, he played TI with us and was actually the all state goalie last year. i know that last year he had over 300 saves on the season but im not sure on this year

[LaxStar12]

Tom Feicoo(Attack) made 1st team All Conference, All State, All american
Cj Nemec(Middie) made 1st team All conference, All State
Conor Hamilton(Attack)all conference
Sean McGushin(goalie) all conference
T Hines(LSM-Close) all conference

total 11 players from STC made all conference

[MidwestLAx101]

congrats to Tom on all american thats great, and Sean's only a sophmore thats great

[Viator22]

Hey congrats to everyone on all-state and all-conference. Now i konow were getting alot of heat but you know you gota let the playing do the talking this should be a crazy playoff series. Good luck to everyone

[Viator22]

Tom way to go on All-American thats awesome

[fastbreakmiddie]

just curious, how good is barrington? I know they have a pretty good goalie, but is that it? by the way, anyone know where he is going?

[kblulax2]

^^thats what we love about em. we lost 7-6 to wws. its tough to beat a team 3 times, they just wanted it more.

alrite u beat us bad once when we wer flat at some tournament but the next game went into OT and u guys still didnt give us any respect so i hope maybe we finally earned some

[NHDSlax]

How is Taft the only team in the entire state to not make the playoffs? Isn't it kind of odd to just leave on team out?

[LaXpLaYeR20]

why are there four players that got all state for attack?

[PalatineLax93]

just curious, how good is barrington? I know they have a pretty good goalie, but is that it? by the way, anyone know where he is going?

they are pretty good. while not as good as Grayslake, NT, LA goalies, their goalie is pretty solid, don't know where he's going

[mstrylaxdad]

A seeds posted earlier in the thread. Here is the complete B seed list.

1. Fenwick
2. Marian Catholic
3. Grayslake Central
4. Lane Tech
5. Benet
6. St. Ignatius
7. West Chicago
8. Lake Zurich
9. Geneva
10. Deerfield
11. Waubonsie
12. Glenbard West
13. Northside Prep
14. St. Rita
15. Sandburg
16. Notre Dame
17. Mundelein
18. Champaign Cent.
19. Vernon Hills
20. Mather

[LaxStar12]

why are there four players that got all state for attack?

Who all got all-state, also who all got all-american?

[LTlaxguy]

How good is the grayslake goalie? I know he got all state last year as well as this year, but his team gives up a lot of goals (when they play decent teams). Is the defense around him just bad?

[LaXpLaYeR20]

Who all got all-state, also who all got all-american?


Attack

*pfiffner gbs #16
*feicco stc #4
#16 lake forest
#7 loyola

this is what i got from my coach

[Twixt]

Didnt some games go down today??? If anyone knows i would love an update

[stclax2]

is there a website to see who got all-state and all-american?

[NVLAXDAD]

GBN 10 NV 8

It might have been 11 - 8.

Thanks for a great season CATS!

[nnhsfog37]

nn lost in ot to stevenson. bummer...

[Laxative41]

Barrington 11
OPRF 4

:chair:

[hclax14]

Attack

*pfiffner gbs #16
*feicco stc #4
#16 lake forest
#7 loyola

this is what i got from my coach


i think the GBS kid got it for middie as he took faceoffs. i got all conference for LSM when i only take the draw on faces

on another note, HC 12-hoffman estates 7
lets see if both hinsdale teams can upset NT...

[Laxative41]

Well that sucks for you because only 16 get into the playoffs. Again, they are my seedings based on who I think are the best not really meant to be predictions. In the past, it was NY State rules. The system is getting better, but still flawed. The Mid Sub League of Barrington, Palatine, Fremd, St. Viator, Hoffman Estates, Conant, Schaumburg is really below average, but by playing each other they rack up the A division victories. If you were to put an OPRF, Evanston, Hinsdale Central or GBN in that division; they would probably win it.
Barrington beat OPRF handily 11-4. OPRF had no offense to speak of. Goals scored on man-down.

[BigUncleJohn]

I do not understand the thinking that puts the highest seed vs the lowest seed and makes the middle teams duke it out. It punishes the lower ranked teams by not giving them a chance, forces the middle teams to eliminate each other to the advantage of the high seeds, and in my opinion, over-rewards the highest seeds. – Granted if you win your division and have a good season, you deserve a higher ranking. But since we have 2/3 of the teams playing before the top seeds, the top eight teams are rewarded with a bye anyway. It makes more sense to me to re-arrange the seed playoff to allow more of the better teams to get into the second round, and to allow the high ranked teams to prove earlier that they belong there, and to make every playoff game mean something.

If I ran the zoo, all teams would play one that is ranked eight below them-- the first round would have been:

A. Evanston (17) @ Glenbrook South (9)
B. Hinsdale Central (18) @ Libertyville (10)
C. Glenbrook North (19) @ Barrington (11)
D. Stevenson (20) @ Fremd (12)
E. Conant (21) @ Naperville North (13)
F. Oak Park (22) @ Nequa Valley (14)
G. Schaumburg (23) @ Hoffman Estates (15)
H. Naperville Central (24) @ Wheaton Warrenville (16)

Second Round (Thursday)
Winner game A (17-9) @ Loyola (1)
Winner game B (18-10)@ New Trier (2)
Winner game C (19-11) @ St. Charles (3)
Winner game D (20-12) @ Lyons Township (4)
Winner game E (21-13) @ Lake Forest (5)
Winner game F (22-14) @ St. Viator (6)
Winner game G (23-15) @ Highland Park (7)
Winner game H (24-16) @ Palatine (8)

The second round games still protect the top seeds by giving them a bye and games that should be wins, but the teams they play are within striking range. Therefore, the early playoff games have as much meaning as the later ones. In my opinion, there should be NO BLOWOUTS on the way to the championship. Glenbrook South 19-2 over Naperville Central is not fair to either team; neither was Libertyville 14-4 over Schaumburg, or Barrington’s 11-4 over OPRF.

[suitcase]

hate to flame on that, but are u arguing with the seeding system for almost every post season tourney from little league thru the pros? dont u think that after all this time that other options have been thought thru.

[BigUncleJohn]

suitcase --

i understand your point and don't disagree too much. i think to some degree there is some element of sacred cow to 1vs64. for illinois lacrosse, the challenge is unbalanced conferences -- stviator and palatine get a bye based on their conference wins, which is as it should be, conferences are important -- but there should be a way to make sure that the games are not blowouts and by the third round, the best teams are still standing. there is no way a blowout in the playoffs is good for anyone's program, especially while we are building. once we get to 64 teams in the playoff, 1vs64 will be mandated by the state anyway.

[mstrylaxdad]

Thread is Illinois HS Game Results. Please don't hijack the thread with ancillary issues. Start a new thread if you would like.

[fsflaxer30]

Barrington beat OPRF handily 11-4. OPRF had no offense to speak of. Goals scored on man-down.
Definitely not

we just played bad... oh
and Kevin had 35 saves.... but OPRF's got no offense to generate 42 shots?
Ok...

[LTlaxguy]

BigUncleJohn, that is a terrible idea. If Palatine had an easier road than Loyola why wouldn't Loyola throw games during the year to try to get the easiest playoff schedule. You get rewarded for how well you did during the year.

LT vs. Stevenson tomorrow.

[NHDSlax]

Time to return to what this thread is meant for...

Mundelein-8
Notre Dame-5

Another great game between these two teams. Mundelein just played better at the end and deserved to win. Sets up a showdown vs. the number 1 seed, Fenwick.

[fastbreakmiddie]

anyone from barrington, where is ur starting goalie going next year? just curious

[LAX383]

Time to return to what this thread is meant for...

Mundelein-8
Notre Dame-5

Another great game between these two teams. Mundelein just played better at the end and deserved to win. Sets up a showdown vs. the number 1 seed, Fenwick.

Great game. No penalties until the 3rd quarter. Mundelein was motivated.

Fenwick should have no problems on Friday however.

383

[viator29]

anyone from barrington, where is ur starting goalie going next year? just curious

hes only a junior

[JimmyJack]

suitcase --

i understand your point and don't disagree too much. i think to some degree there is some element of sacred cow to 1vs64. for illinois lacrosse, the challenge is unbalanced conferences -- stviator and palatine get a bye based on their conference wins, which is as it should be, conferences are important -- but there should be a way to make sure that the games are not blowouts and by the third round, the best teams are still standing. there is no way a blowout in the playoffs is good for anyone's program, especially while we are building. once we get to 64 teams in the playoff, 1vs64 will be mandated by the state anyway.


You make the same point that I was making earlier but somehow got erased. I guess "people" think that talking about the inequalities of IL. lax think that it is "flaming". if you think that you have a legit chance at a statechampionship, then play teamsin state. Every western suburb goes on some spring break trip and comes home 4-0 or 3-1,claiming they played the best teams in what ever state. then they can't even play the top 1-5 teams in there own state b/c of game limits. Then they win 75% of their games and lose in the first round.


This is a problem. I am not flaming or "ripping" on a program. It just need to be addressed if Il lax is going to move on.

PS. Does anyone know who is representing ILL in the Nor/Sou HS All-star game?

[fastbreakmiddie]

jimmyjack, i guess you're right, apologies for my earlier post that got erased. what is this nor/sou hs all star game? are you talking about the under armour gig or is this a completely separate event? I thought North/South was reserved for collegiate all stars? Maybe im wrong.

[hclax14]

i think hes talking about the senior all star game

[mstrylaxdad]

[QUOTE=JimmyJack]You make the same point that I was making earlier but somehow got erased. I guess "people" think that talking about the inequalities of IL. lax think that it is "flaming". if you think that you have a legit chance at a statechampionship, then play teams in state.

I think you are really missing the point. Your discussion is valid - but not on this thread. Please go to the first two posts. Past threads have been deleted because these type of topics - even with the best intentions by most - often degrade into flaming.

I think the moderators are trying to keep the thread going by erasing off topic posts. Let's just get to June 2 and then have at it!

[GWDefenender32]

doese anyone have a complete list of all the illinois kids that made all conference,state and america? ps. if GBW did better during the season, Tom Poscias our goalie could have been all state, he got all conference though.

[GWDefenender32]

Tom Feicoo(Attack) made 1st team All Conference, All State, All american
Cj Nemec(Middie) made 1st team All conference, All State
Conor Hamilton(Attack)all conference
Sean McGushin(goalie) all conference
T Hines(LSM-Close) all conference

total 11 players from STC made all conference

I saw a scouting report on E lacrosse and i was surprised to not see any players from STC..?

[fastbreakmiddie]

link from e-lacrosse please?

[LaXpLaYeR20]

Lyons 11 Stevenson 7 and i would really like to know what that
E lacrosse scouting report is?

[LaXpLaYeR20]

This is what i got for all state and all american from my coach

All State All Americans with *

Attack
*#16 pfiffner gbs
*#4 feicco stc
#16 lake forest
#7 loyola
Middies
#20 Anderson LT
#31 Nemec stc
#10 Sanchez La
LSM
*Shmitt fremd
D
*Barr -la
*Johnson GBS
Witt St. Viator
G
Grayslake

[Twixt]

H.P loses to Libertyville. :(

I think it was 8-7 (someone correct me if i am wrong, i just wanna forget it)

[fsflaxer30]

that's no good, I wanted HP to go at least to the four

[Chit-TownLAX*55]

St. Rita 13 Vernon hills 6

I think we won thats all i know

[ethslax12]

Loyola 13 Evanston 2

[J2040K]

Libertyville 8 Highland Park 7

[NHDSlax]

Scores in so far:
Libertyville-8 Highland Park-7
Lake Forest-11 Fremd-1
Loyola-13 Evanston-2
New Trier-21 Hinsdale Central-4
Lyons-11 Stevenson-7

Waiting on the St. Charles, Palatine, and Viator scores...

[stclax2]

STC won 14-5

[LaXpLaYeR20]

are there any details on the NT HC game yet

[Laxative41]

Barrington 5
Saint Viator 4

Barrington scored with two tenths of a second on the clock in regulation with a sick inbound play to the crease. Viator failed to remember two words "CHECK STICKS"

[viator29]

[QUOTE=Laxative41]Barrington 5
Saint Viator 4

Barrington scored with two tenths of a second on the clock in regulation with a sick inbound play to the crease. Viator failed to remember two words "CHECK STICKS"

classy but hey good luck on sat

[PalatineLax93]

Palatine 4
GBS 16

[fsflaxer30]

That NT-Hinsdale score is the first time I've seen a team go in the 20's in a while...

This makes me think NT has caught the fire and is just rolling

That or they ran the score up...

[Laxative41]

Hey, Viator 29 no offense kid. You guys played one heck of a game!

Viator29 you are the Lefty Attack with a sick stick correct?

You guys have definately improved! I thought you guys graduated your entire starting line up from last year. Your goalie made some incredible saves. How did he not get second team all conference? Behind Overby of course, who made several sick saves himself.

Your D-Man Witt definately deserves All-Conference & All-State probably deserves All-American as well!!!! Where is he playing in college, I haven't seen anything about him committing to anywhere yet!

Keep running and gunning Saint Viator!

[mstrylaxdad]

Keeping in the spirit of the thread - Congrats to the Hinsdale Central Girls Team on their state championship. From the write up on the IHSWLA site it must have been a fantastic game. Let's hope next Saturday produces more thrilling games.

[Viator22]

Witt's not really looking anywhere for lax he is a sick hockey player and he has set his heart on that. It was a great game yesterday and just a bang bang play at the end. Granted we didn’t play lockdown D on that last play to deny that pass there is nothing we can take away from Barrington. It is just a huge rivalry and it’s the type of game where you walk away with your head high cause we left it all out there. I wish the best of luck to all the teams left. Yeah also Kevin (Barrington’s) Goalie is phenomenal and I have had he chance to talk to him a little and get to know him he is a good guy and I wish them the best of luck and hope the Rep. The MSL which has been getting a lot of bad Rep.

[viator29]

Hey, Viator 29 no offense kid. You guys played one heck of a game!

Viator29 you are the Lefty Attack with a sick stick correct?

You guys have definately improved! I thought you guys graduated your entire starting line up from last year. Your goalie made some incredible saves. How did he not get second team all conference? Behind Overby of course, who made several sick saves himself.

Your D-Man Witt definately deserves All-Conference & All-State probably deserves All-American as well!!!! Where is he playing in college, I haven't seen anything about him committing to anywhere yet!

Keep running and gunning Saint Viator!

yeah sick game though i like our rivalry that we have right now all 3 games were intense both temas fighting hard, best of luck on saturday represent the msl and yeah i am 29

[BigCatLax]

I know this is confrontational, but it needs to be said while things are happening now in the play-offs. St, Charles plays Barrington? LA has to play GBS? HP is out!! There is no way that Hp is not one of the top 8 teams in the state. They beat NT last week. LAST WEEK!!! They get matched up against Lib. Lose and their out. St Via and Bar. play each other and one advances. No offense Bar. and ST. Via. but you guys have not played anybody.(except LF and LA which you lost to 13-2) It's just wrong. The best 8 teams are not playing tomorrow. Hopefully the top 4 advance.


My predictions

LA 8 GBS 7. It won't suprise me if GBS wins. They are a top 4 team. LA gets screwed with the 1 seed.

NT 8 Lib 5. The score could higher if NT shows up. Lib on a roll with 6 straight wins including wins over LF and HP.

StC 13 Bar 3 Laughfer (sp?)

LT 6 LF 5. The game of the weekend. 2 physical teams, play to see who gets LA.\

Good Luck everybody. Be safe.

[laxer07]

the seedings were messed up but it isnt as if it is those teams' faults. Barrington wasnt the highest seed even in their conference, yet they play st.viator second round when fremd and palatine(the higher seeds) play LF and GBS. That is just poor seeding by the committee. LF and GBS should have been seeded much higher...but thats how things were picked.

[ron_burgundy]

they really need to think about how they do the power rankings. like other people have said, teams that beat naperville north got 10 points for their power ranking when that team lost to a mediocre stevenson in the first round...whereas teams that beat stevenson during the regular season got i think 6 points for their average. that's not right, they need to either make a better ranking system or involve some kind of vote or actual human choice in the rankings. some seedings were ridiculous this year and that's been true in the past too. they do a decent job with the top 4-5 teams, like they did this year, and thats probably why this never gets changed. the top teams survive but the lesser teams get screwed.

[mstrylaxdad]

Lax Cup Playoff Scores from last night:

IL Benet Academy 8, Glenbard West 2
IL Deerfield 11, West Chicago 3
IL Fenwick 9, Mundelein 3
IL Grayslake Central 9, St Rita 4
IL Lake Zurich 10, Geneva 2
IL Marian Catholic 14, Sandburg 4
IL St Ignatius Prep 7, Waubonsie Valley 2

[NHDSlax]

Any word on the Lane Tech-Northside Prep game?

[haymay]

lake forest 8 lyons township 2

[lax888]

Any word on the Lane Tech-Northside Prep game?
lane 18 ns 3

[mstrylaxdad]

IL Lake Forest 8, Lyons Township 2
IL Loyola Academy 10, Glenbrook South 6
IL New Trier 11, Libertyville 6

[HCLAXzorz13]

So which teams are left?

[stclax32]

stc 12 bar. 3

stc vs. NT

LA vs. LF

[LT LaxMan]

Does anyone else feel like the lax cup is a waste of time/energy. why reward being mediocre? Why should B teams play at Toyota Park there should be a playoff for 3rd btw the teams that lost in the semis. Instead of having "Top 4 in state" there would actually be some semblence of an actual ranking.

[mstrylaxdad]

Does anyone else feel like the lax cup is a waste of time/energy. why reward being mediocre? Why should B teams play at Toyota Park there should be a playoff for 3rd btw the teams that lost in the semis. Instead of having "Top 4 in state" there would actually be some semblence of an actual ranking.


The lacrosse cup exists for developing / emerging teams and teams that may never compete with the large school programs. Dedication on B teams is just as strong as A teams. Several B teams will transition to A, and others will stay B due to their numbers. As in the IHSA, there will always be divisions among school programs.

Know that the IHSA will never recognize lacrosse as a sport unless there is more participation in the state. For that to happen there must be more teams from the center of the state. These schools will be smaller and most likley B (or use the analogy of class A) teams. They will be relevant.

[NHDSlax]

Does anyone else feel like the lax cup is a waste of time/energy. why reward being mediocre? Why should B teams play at Toyota Park there should be a playoff for 3rd btw the teams that lost in the semis. Instead of having "Top 4 in state" there would actually be some semblence of an actual ranking.


Is it fair to put a program that is 2 years old against a program 2 decades old? And it is very important to have some kind of division if lax is ever to be an IHSA sport. All EIGHT classes of football play at U of I for the state championship. Just because the 8A champ can romp the 1A champ doesn't mean that the 1A team shouldn't be allowed to have their time in the spotlight.

[PalatineLax93]

What are the advantages/good things that come with being an IHSA sport instead of a club sport?

[wildcat31]

It means that 1) if the school has a team it pays for it instead of whatever fundraisers and other stuff you have to do now, including coach's pay 2) IHSA will arrange regular/post-season tournaments 3) more probability of higher trained refs

[NNHStas21]

3) more probability of higher trained refs
how do you figure? where would these great refs come from?

[NHDSlax]

how do you figure? where would these great refs come from?

They will have to be IHSA certified. That means they will have to be better trained to be approved.
The IHSA will also bring a lot more organization to the sport in terms of scheduling, playoffs, conference alignment, etc.

[haymay]

predictions for wednesdays games?

[fsflaxer30]

predictions for wednesdays games?
who's that? LF and LA?
and then who else? STC and NT?

[stclax32]

yes those are the games

[haymay]

lf vs stc state championship

[mstrylaxdad]

2. Playoff predictions are fine when the playoffs are ready to start, but keep them simple and without negative comments.

3. No posts about which team is better before a game is played. Stick to results.



Less than one week to go. Let's keep the forum open.

[J2040K]

I think it needs to be brought to attention that Illinois had 4 players in the final four this weekend.
Adam Langley-Duke
Andrew Jaffe-JHU
Danny Nathan and Matt Robbins-Cornell
I think it needs to be brought to attention that Steve Brooks of Syracuse was named honorable mention all-american.

[IllinoisLax77]

Predictions:

LA over LF ... 8-5
NT over STC ... 10-7

I'm sticking with what I stated earlier, a rematch of last year. LA and NT split in the regular season, which would make for a great championship game. Defense will prevail in the LA v. LF game, and experience will prevail in the NT v. STC game. The two best teams in state will be playing for the title. Should be a good one.

[stclax2]

all i know is that all of the teams in the final four are pretty solid. im not gonna call predictions because i'm a lil byist, but hopefully NT won't be as dominant this time we play them. gonna be good games, i hope to see LT of LA in the chip, but good luck to everyone.

[laxroo22]

this is wat i got
NT 13 STC 8
LF 6 LA5

[laxroo22]

Predictions:

LA over LF ... 8-5
NT over STC ... 10-7

I'm sticking with what I stated earlier, a rematch of last year. LA and NT split in the regular season, which would make for a great championship game. Defense will prevail in the LA v. LF game, and experience will prevail in the NT v. STC game. The two best teams in state will be playing for the title. Should be a good one.

have u seen LF's D? they were dominant against us.

[viator29]

do u guys know anything about ti tryouts my coach emailed duffy but i havent heard anything yet

[laxme]

I think it needs to be brought to attention that Illinois had 4 players in the final four this weekend.
Adam Langley-Duke
Andrew Jaffe-JHU
Danny Nathan and Matt Robbins-Cornell
I think it needs to be brought to attention that Steve Brooks of Syracuse was named honorable mention all-american.

It is start, still a lot of good illinois players aren't playing in college. Also a question, none of these guys play very much. Would people on this forum rather play on a top tier team, but not really play much or go middle of the road and play more?

[PalatineLax93]

have u seen LF's D? they were dominant against us.

from what i hear LA's D is ridiculous, but idk if any of them are playin in college

[laxer07]

all i know is that its invite for tryouts..and they are starting to send them out. too bad the tournaments they are going to are super weak compared to where varsity machine went last summer.

[PalatineLax93]

all i know is that its invite for tryouts..and they are starting to send them out. too bad the tournaments they are going to are super weak compared to where varsity machine went last summer.

is there a varsity machine team this year?

[laxer07]

the varsity machine combined with TI. therefore the only quality recruiting thing they go to is gait cup.

[l4CrO5Ze CR4Zy]

If STC makes it to the title game I will be amazed and than I would cry because we need good representitives in the title game

[haymay]

no way dude stc is like totally the bestest team ever P-DOGG

[gobells34]

Any scores from Tuesday? Or more specifically howd Fenwick do?

[NHDSlax]

Fenwick won 10-7
Benet beat Lane Tech 6-5 in OT

[Mr. Raw]

anyone else tryout for/make chicago lax?

[mstrylaxdad]

LAX Cup Thursday semi-finals:

1. Fenwick vs. Benet
2. Marian Cath. vs. Grayslake Central

Good luck to all.

[laxme]

Loyola 5
Lake Forest 3

Loyola controlled the ball most of the game. LF's long poles couldn't clear the ball. Loyola's offense wasn't very impressive. Loyola's D was the difference.

[ILLAX26]

New Trier 16 Saint Charles 7

[laxme]

Well for all that excitement at the beginning of the season, it's the same old song and dance. Should be a good game. While New Trier has put alot of goals during the playoffs it will be a much tighter game on Saturday. I don't see either team getting over 10. I think it comes down to the goalies, and who makes the bigger saves.

[IllinoisLax77]

Oh how good it feels to be right...

But on a more serious note, I think the championship game will be a better one than last year. The environment will be electric at Toyoya Park, and I look forward to seeing New Trier's potent offense go up against the famous Loyola D. While it seems Loyola plays down to other team's levels often, and New Trier's O has been on a roll, I am going to stick with my reasoning: Great defense beats great offense, Loyola should pull it out. I wouldn't be surprised to see overtime.

Despite the committee's poor job of seeding the tournament, the two best teams are New Trier and Loyola, and that is the way it came out. Good luck to both squads.

[LaxStar12]

If STC makes it to the title game I will be amazed and than I would cry because we need good representitives in the title game

way to be a douche bag. sorry your team didnt get as far..

[haymay]

actually.. his team did. but you get an A for effort!

[ron_burgundy]

wouldnt that be hilarious if new trier won state with zero all-state players?

playoffs seeding and all-state voting need to be reexamined

[nnhsfog37]

^^very good call

[JimmyJack]

GBS has 2 AA, they don't make the final 4. They might be a final 4 team. STC backed out of their game b/c of game #'s. But anyway GBS doesn't make the final 4.

Fremd has an AA defenseman they lose 11-1 to LF. ???? I bet he doesn't play at NT. No stick skills.

Grayslake's ?? Goalie is an AA. They are playing in the Lax cup. I'm sure he see's alot of good shots.

#44 from from STC is OK, He scored some garbage goals and it seems like he doesn't pass the ball once he gets his mind that he's going to the cage. But the NT Def guy didn't even make Conference Honorable mention and he shut him down.

I know STC had another AA but can't figure out who? They didn't have another guy who would play on NT's team.

NT's goalie stopped numerous 1-1 shots and was consistently passing the ball above the midfield line.

Western Suburb teams have come along way. Well?? STC has. But it's unfair that nobody from NT made all state, let alone AA.

NT and LA conference is The state of IL lax right now. The top 5 teams are prob NT, LA, GBS, HP, and LF which is the only team not in the super conference. LB beat HP in OT so I guess they are in the top 5.

Enough said

[JimmyJack]

New Trier 16 Saint Charles 7

It wasn't that close NT pulled all their starter's in the 4th Q.

STC scored 4 in the 4th.

[mstrylaxdad]

Lacrosse is a team sport. You can have a great player and not win as a team. AA honors are based upon a players skills. Don't evaluate an individual players' skill based upon a team's record.

Let's be honest - some GREAT players may be out there who just aren't lucky enough to live on the north shore. From what I have observed - HS and Summer teams - the good players in this area respect each other - no matter which HS team they play on.

[JimmyJack]

Everybody respects each other and the game. But your term "great" is used way to loosely. Someone might be perceived as great B/c he is the best player that his school/team has ever had. He's just another good player at LA or NT. And the coaches who vote are biased against it. Take the allstate team vs the winner of the LA - NT game and I would take LA or NT. And NT doesn't have an allstate player.

[BigCatLax]

Lacrosse is a team sport. You can have a great player and not win as a team. AA honors are based upon a players skills. Don't evaluate an individual players' skill based upon a team's record.

Let's be honest - some GREAT players may be out there who just aren't lucky enough to live on the north shore. From what I have observed - HS and Summer teams - the good players in this area respect each other - no matter which HS team they play on.


I agree. GREAT is a very strong term to be using.

[laxer07]

jimmyjack....

STC did not have another all american..just another all state player. and grayslake goalie is all state not all american. NT or Loyola probably would beat all state lax team..because they dont have any subs.

[mstrylaxdad]

Everybody respects each other and the game. But your term "great" is used way to loosely. Someone might be perceived as great B/c he is the best player that his school/team has ever had. He's just another good player at LA or NT. And the coaches who vote are biased against it. Take the allstate team vs the winner of the LA - NT game and I would take LA or NT. And NT doesn't have an allstate player.


Great is indeed a subjective and relative term. I use great when I see a player on HS (or traveling team) who excels at the game versus his peers in Illinois and perhaps on the east coast. When "experts" (HS / College coach, MLL player, College player, camp director, etc.) says a player is great I give it some weight. I have heard the term great used to describe players who are not on LA and NT. You can choose to use other criteria.

Let's agree to disagree and keep the thread focused on this weekend!

[MidwestLAx101]

is anyone eles invited too TI west jv tryouts?

[ron_burgundy]

Lacrosse is a team sport. You can have a great player and not win as a team. AA honors are based upon a players skills. Don't evaluate an individual players' skill based upon a team's record.

Let's be honest - some GREAT players may be out there who just aren't lucky enough to live on the north shore. From what I have observed - HS and Summer teams - the good players in this area respect each other - no matter which HS team they play on.

yeah but the problem is some kids who were voted all-state and all-american won it over the kids who got the respect you are talking about. the lsm from oak park is not on a great team at all, but EVERYONE who has played with/against him respects him like you say...what did he get this year? 2nd team all conference. thats total crap. whereas with some all-state kids, not one person i talked to thought they were good..in fact with one of the all-state kids, i talked to somebody who had played his team twice, they didnt even remember the kid. i think the reason people are reacting this way to the all-state picks is that the players have more respect for the guys who got snubbed than some of the ones who got voted in. its hard for some of us to imagine what coaches were thinking when they voted the way they did.

[kblulax2]

hey is anyone here tryin out for TI west varsity?

[LaxStar12]

GBS has 2 AA, they don't make the final 4. They might be a final 4 team. STC backed out of their game b/c of game #'s. But anyway GBS doesn't make the final 4.

Fremd has an AA defenseman they lose 11-1 to LF. ???? I bet he doesn't play at NT. No stick skills.

Grayslake's ?? Goalie is an AA. They are playing in the Lax cup. I'm sure he see's alot of good shots.

#44 from from STC is OK, He scored some garbage goals and it seems like he doesn't pass the ball once he gets his mind that he's going to the cage. But the NT Def guy didn't even make Conference Honorable mention and he shut him down.

I know STC had another AA but can't figure out who? They didn't have another guy who would play on NT's team.

NT's goalie stopped numerous 1-1 shots and was consistently passing the ball above the midfield line.

Western Suburb teams have come along way. Well?? STC has. But it's unfair that nobody from NT made all state, let alone AA.

NT and LA conference is The state of IL lax right now. The top 5 teams are prob NT, LA, GBS, HP, and LF which is the only team not in the super conference. LB beat HP in OT so I guess they are in the top 5.

Enough said

all you do is complain. so what NT didnt get any AA or AS. If the coaches are the ones picking who gets them . and they didnt get voted that means that the coaches didnt see them when they played their best games. When #44 Tom comes to play his game he does. and im guessing the others do aswell. Don't bash players from other teams just because you are mad at the fact NT didnt get recognized. And yes you did beat STC becuause u guys have the playoff experience. That was the first time in STC history they made it that far.

[fsflaxer30]

Who's doing TI north?

[nnhsfog37]

benet fenwick score?

[fenwicklax89]

fenwick - 10
benet - 7

good game, weather played a big role, wet sticks caused a lot of would be goals to go wide.

anyone know the marian/grayslake score?

[hcDevils391]

Chicago Trib is reporting Grayslake 7 Marian 6

[mstrylaxdad]

Saturday

2 pm Fenwick (1) vs. Grayslake (3)
4 pm Loyola (1) vs. New Trier (2)

Parking lots open at 1pm, Stadium at 1:30.

Good luck to everyone. Come out an support Illinois high school lacrosse. Show your schools (and administrators) that lacrosse has arrived. It's a good chance there will be IHSA directors at the games. Use good sportsmanship and show them that your sport belongs.

[fsflaxer30]

well.... Predictions?

I dunno about the first game...

but I'm saying loyola for the second

[ethslax12]

anybody going to the games today? i am

[stickskills9]

Oh yes, I plan on watching as the New Trier Trevians take on the Loyola Ramblers, it should be the match of the century.

[stickskills9]

hello everyone, everyone here should come and check out the 2007 state championship foruim, it will be the site of all the hip lingo and trash talking. Like YOung Joc sas, its going down.

[suitcase]

new trier wins state title 7-5. pretty well played game, decently officiated. the coach combs trevians show lots of discipline against loyola, as has been the case the last few times they have played. good game plan, and fairly well executed. offense was very opportunistic , getting some goals off some loose ball situations in the attack zone. new trier goalie was solid today, let nothing cheap in. loyola played hard, couldnt break thru the trevian d enough early. i would say that if u had not seen a illinois high school lacrosse state title game before, u had to leave pretty impressed. and hopefully realized why the same two teams usually are in the title game. if u did not, they will be in it again next year. ps. soft zone defenses should be outlawed in lacrosse communites where most of the teams havent learned good team defense yet.( this does not include new trier, who certainly can play man to man when they want.)

[ethslax12]

i went, very good game but i could tell from the beginning that new trier had it in the bag. it was fun to watch but it wiuld have been nice to see some underdogs in the game.

[fsflaxer30]

Fenwick Game? How'd that go?

[gobells34]

Fenwick Won 11-9

[HCLAXzorz13]

machine got first victory in history

[Sik Laxer]

congrats to new trier for a third consecutive state title

[mstrylaxdad]

Fenwick - Grayslake game was exciting. Basically a 1-2 goal game the entire way.

Seemed that Loyola came out too slow to handle New Trier. Loyola got within 2 goals at the end, but the score was not that close most of the game.

With the Machine winning it was a great day for Illinois lacrosse. Lots of fans, a great venue, and good weather.

[stclax2]

alright, i don't want to start a bunch of drama but look at the all-state all-american this way. north shore teams are good. plain and simple. they have good coaching and a team of decent players with good/great coaching will win state championships. look at NT. honestly i don't think they have any truely stand out players. everyone is solid and they can all play and they have great coaches to back them up and teach them what to do. a program like st.charles... we have never been good, but a kid who has worked his butt off since sophmore year (tom feiocco) and totally transformed his body type into a kid who hustles and works his butt off on and off the field is what to me an all-american is. he was short and fat but knew he had talent and worked so hard to become better than that and he is an AA now. to me, that's what it should be. he's been putting up good numbers his HS career and he got noticed for it so when everyone says like.. ooh that's bs, NT of LA didn't have any AS or AA's on their teams.. so what. get over it. use it as motivation to become one next year and if im not mistaken, LA has Barr? anyways, that's how i see it, and i think that tom sort of deserves it. he's probably worked harder than anyone i've ever known and for him to get that award is awesome.

congrats to NT by the way.. eventhough i hate you guys for knocking us out, i'm glad you could get the whole three-peat thing goin for you guys.

[fastbreakmiddie]

^word, what he said

[IllinoisLax77]

Championship was a great game, hands down. It came down to a slow Loyola offense against an active New Trier defense. 1 minute (and a half?) of 2 men down, and Loyola could not convert. That was the defining moment of the game for me, watching New Trier in a four man box and Loyola moving the ball around the outside doing nothing with it. All and all a great game and a great day for Illinois lacrosse, despite the fact that the trophy wasn't given to a non LA-NT team.

Another quick note, a little off topic. After watching the Lacrosse Cup and the State Championship, I think it's very clear who the all-state goalie should have been.

[stickskills9]

Right, who should it have been, Mitch of NT or that guy from Greyslake.

[mstrylaxdad]

give them both credit. A goalie is only as good as his D. On one specific day, the NT goalie was superior.

[hcDevils391]

the grayslake goalie wasnt very impressive at all, he was big and just jumped up infront of shots on the crease, but seemed to have trouble with outside shots

[fenwicklax89]

the grayslake goalie wasnt very impressive at all, he was big and just jumped up infront of shots on the crease, but seemed to have trouble with outside shots

actually just about all of our goals were from either 3rd passes on transitions or dodging into the middle and bouncing it past him. we tried not to take outside shots because of how large he is.

[ethslax12]

so....whos ready for next season?

[fenwicklax89]

or this summer.

[stickskills9]

Just wait untill new triers trevians trevians return to the fields to wreak havic. I play at Lyons and Im already afraid to think about whats gonna happen when we play NT this summer.
WESTERN SPRINGS 4 LIFE. PEACE

[BigCatLax]

alright, i don't want to start a bunch of drama but look at the all-state all-american this way. north shore teams are good. plain and simple. they have good coaching and a team of decent players with good/great coaching will win state championships. look at NT. honestly i don't think they have any truely stand out players. everyone is solid and they can all play and they have great coaches to back them up and teach them what to do. a program like st.charles... we have never been good, but a kid who has worked his butt off since sophmore year (tom feiocco) and totally transformed his body type into a kid who hustles and works his butt off on and off the field is what to me an all-american is. he was short and fat but knew he had talent and worked so hard to become better than that and he is an AA now. to me, that's what it should be. he's been putting up good numbers his HS career and he got noticed for it so when everyone says like.. ooh that's bs, NT of LA didn't have any AS or AA's on their teams.. so what. get over it. use it as motivation to become one next year and if im not mistaken, LA has Barr? anyways, that's how i see it, and i think that tom sort of deserves it. he's probably worked harder than anyone i've ever known and for him to get that award is awesome.

congrats to NT by the way.. eventhough i hate you guys for knocking us out, i'm glad you could get the whole three-peat thing goin for you guys.


You keep telling yourself that northshore kids don't work hard and that they are entitled to be good lacrosse players. Just b/c one kid in your area decides to work hard and become a decent player doesn't mean he is an AA.
Kids at good high school progams work hard all the time. Year long. That is why programs on the north shore dominate. So don't give me that some fat kid worked hard and desereve to AA. He's (tom) good but there were some bad choices this year for All state and AA. And if STC played anybody this year then maybe they would not be criticized. Don't tell me that NT had playoff expierence and that's why you lost by 9 goals. Even though it wasn't that close. NT HAS BETTER PLAYERS. PERIOD. END OF STORY.

That was injustice that they had no Allstate players.

[qtp7]

alright, i don't want to start a bunch of drama but look at the all-state all-american this way. north shore teams are good. plain and simple. they have good coaching and a team of decent players with good/great coaching will win state championships. look at NT. honestly i don't think they have any truely stand out players. everyone is solid and they can all play and they have great coaches to back them up and teach them what to do. a program like st.charles... we have never been good, but a kid who has worked his butt off since sophmore year (tom feiocco) and totally transformed his body type into a kid who hustles and works his butt off on and off the field is what to me an all-american is. he was short and fat but knew he had talent and worked so hard to become better than that and he is an AA now. to me, that's what it should be. he's been putting up good numbers his HS career and he got noticed for it so when everyone says like.. ooh that's bs, NT of LA didn't have any AS or AA's on their teams.. so what. get over it. use it as motivation to become one next year and if im not mistaken, LA has Barr? anyways, that's how i see it, and i think that tom sort of deserves it. he's probably worked harder than anyone i've ever known and for him to get that award is awesome.

For you to say that north shore teams are filled with a bunch of decent, but well coached players probably means you haven't been watching Loyola, New Trier, Lake Forest, GBS, etc. lacrosse for very long. New Trier's 2005 championship team had players who now play at Hopkins, Princeton, UVA, and Colgate. There are north shore players on Providence, Cornell, Harvard, and Loyola-Maryland. That is the best lacrosse in the nation. You're right, these guys probably never practiced their stick skills as much as tom feiocco, but they had damn good coaching. Thats a slap in the face.

Overall, this year was a down year for Illinois lacrosse in terms of ability, but the MOST talented players are still on the north shore. Thats what should determine All-American/All-State, not who "works their butt off" the most. New Trier having no representation on the All-State team is a joke and it shows the bias that exists among Illinois coaches.

The western suburb schools still are not on the same level. For christs sake the NT-STC game was decided by 9 goals (would have been larger if NT didn't put in their scrubs). Find me any other state where the the state semi-final game was that lopsided.

peace alshire

[stickskills9]

Well said my man well saod

[fenwicklax89]

lax.com has pics from the high school games on the page with the machine win

[RIT37FO]

season is over
the constant bickering needs to stop otherwise we will be giving points and warnings.