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LaxCheck101
05-14-2007, 10:15 AM
I know that companies, players and just about everyone says that titanium is the kind of shaft out there. Every titanium of any brand i have seen that has been used for at least a year is covered in dents and isn't as light as most other shafts. What is it about titaniums, and what is the soloution? I personally think that a nice scandium or a kpro is better than any titanium. What do you guys think?

trojanlax929
05-14-2007, 10:19 AM
i totally agree, ive played with my teamates titaniums, mostly titans and there nothing but heavy, weird to handle and not tht much more durable...my klyte has way less damage done to it, any one care to explain why titaniums worth it?

brainddeadjock
05-14-2007, 10:45 AM
Titanium is denser than aluminum. All shaft are aluminum based alloys, except for the composites and titanium. All the "scandium", "zirconium", and "vanadium" shafts hare all over 90% aluminum by volume.

Anyway, back to titanium, its main advantage is higher yield strength, it will bend further before reaching a plastic state, permanantly bent. It also has a higher Young's Modulus value. This value is the one you look at to resists denting.

The reason titanium shafts for so much more banged up, is that they take more punishment before failing. Many of the dent/dings that you see on the titanium shaft would have been failures on other sticks.

D-pole are another matter. Warrior d-poles are so thin to make them lighter, they fails easier. That's why they only have a 30 day warranty. If warrior would make the titanium shafts the sa,e weight as the kpro and klytes, they would hold up longer. For a d-pole, get a Brine or STX, at least they have a 6 month warranty.

Brandon303
05-14-2007, 12:53 PM
Neither of you have used a Mohawk Ti I'm assuming. Once you have, you'll never go back. It'll never break (let alone dent) on you. Plus, they're like $75. But, if you know the people there you can get them for like $20 :clap:

LaxCheck101
05-14-2007, 01:04 PM
i have an stx titanium and i really don't think that it's worth the price at all. I think you can get a much better shaft, lighter and stronger for less, such as a kpro or a scandium, and to be honest i don't care if it's 90% aluminum, if it is lighter and stronger than a titanium i would rather take it over the ti

italianstalion
05-14-2007, 01:47 PM
You may find a lighter shaft but not a stronger one. Remember that weight is almost a direct ratio to strenght. So like you can have a titan pro but it will get dented by a woody, not because wood is stronger than metal and dont even tell me it is because it isnt, its because the woody has more mass because its not hollow. I want to see a scandium or kpro stand up to an old skool STX Ti, Mohawk TI, or the almighty Fatboy

MaKiMaKi13
05-14-2007, 02:25 PM
the old school Ti's are where its at like the mohawks ,fatboys and STX Ti's the present day ones are a waste of money in my opinion

ML_LAX09
05-14-2007, 02:54 PM
the old school Ti's are where its at like the mohawks ,fatboys and STX Ti's the present day ones are a waste of money in my opinion

Yea really, don't these companies learn from the past at all??

LaxCheck101
05-14-2007, 04:40 PM
okay, well that makes more sense, i the new stx ti and it's dented as hell, i've heard "this thing's a tank" and to me is bull, becuase mine's destroyed. If the companies started making them with thinner walls then the old ones then it makes sense, and you're right they are a waste of money

CSlax06
05-14-2007, 04:45 PM
Mohawks,Fatboys, old school Ti classics and old school STX Ti's are the only Ti's worth buying.

LaxCheck101
05-14-2007, 04:55 PM
thank you! you finally hit the nail on the head, so most titaniums made now aren't worth the money, okay. then what should i go for for a good strength to weight ratio?

CSlax06
05-14-2007, 04:57 PM
Old Warrior Ti classic.

LaxCheck101
05-14-2007, 05:08 PM
anything that's still being made have a good str/wght ratio?

WAXmyLAX
05-14-2007, 05:35 PM
What changed between the last gen and the current gen shafts? Just the wall thickness and thus strength?

laxr24
05-14-2007, 06:31 PM
I remember when a titan classic was $99 bucks at my local store, now its 160, what happened?

the next 'one'
05-14-2007, 06:56 PM
I remember when a titan classic was $99 bucks at my local store, now its 160, what happened?

they made it lighter...and got new graphics!!! :nut:

MACDADDY
05-14-2007, 08:11 PM
TI is overrated. Im just as happy with my Zirconium cut from a d pole. its got less dents (none) than the d pole TI on my team, where its already bent.

SilverZeppelin
05-14-2007, 08:14 PM
TI is overrated. Im just as happy with my Zirconium cut from a d pole. its got less dents (none) than the d pole TI on my team, where its already bent.
my kpro has less dents than a titan...

italianstalion
05-14-2007, 08:23 PM
ok this thread is making me kinda mad now, if you have a shaft with stronger material and thicker walls its obviously going to be a stronger shaft.

So if your kpro has less dents than a titan it has to be a titan pro and if its not its still not a controlled experiment where there are constants. so the titan could hae been hit with fatboys while the kpro hit with say a plat alloy.

scarsdalelax08
05-14-2007, 08:31 PM
the Crankshaft Ti is SOOOOOOOOOOOOO light compare to all other Ti's that i have used

wb313
05-14-2007, 08:40 PM
i love my g22, its been through hell and has the same damage as my old TI. its an alloy but sitll holds up great

akahector
05-14-2007, 09:15 PM
haven't battle tested my new stx ti, this makes me wonder if i should turn it back in and chip in some more dough for the sc+ti

italianstalion
05-15-2007, 08:07 AM
haven't battle tested my new stx ti, this makes me wonder if i should turn it back in and chip in some more dough for the sc+ti
the stx ti is stronger than a sci ti, the sci ti is just lighter

mljohn1992
05-31-2007, 04:35 PM
I have a titan pro and i love it. I had a kpro for 1/2 a year, and it got completely dented. I have been using a titan pro now and it has 0 dents in it. A titan pro is also very light for a titanium shaft.