The Stiffi, New Warrior Head

[ML_LAX09]

In the new issue of IL, in the front pages, shows the new Warrior head, The Stiffi. It shows some of the sidewalls and how it has Titanium running through it. Says it's Titanium enhanced. Gimmick maybe, but a cool idea.
Oh, and you can see the titanium in parts of the head.

discuss...

[lacrosse19]

Pics? too bad i didn't get the new IL this month

[ML_LAX09]

Pics? too bad i didn't get the new IL this month

I'll see if I can get them.

P.S. it comes out in October 07.

[Mad-Max]

What issue was this in?

[ML_LAX09]

What issue was this in?

I just got it today, it has Polanco on cover.

PICS....

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sorry for the bad pics:)

[gigo567]

Wow...

I remember a few TLF members talking about this over a year ago. Not about the Warrior head but about the idea of a head that had metal in it.

[Spartan]

and warrior makes another blatent attempt to sound pimp. Look at the ads they put out.

the stiffi is gunna be huge? G-Zone penetration? The stiffi lets me play all night long? all natural male lacrosse enhancement? with the titanium vain you wont go limp in the summertime?

gimmie a frickin break. warrior is rediculous and needs to drop those bullcrap names right away. grow up you losers over at warrior

[JLancer24]

The titanium idea is a good idea but I think Warrior could have done a little better by making it looking better because from what i can see it looks kinda ugly but the design may also help the stiffness but i dont know

edit - i forgot to add that the name is not meant for a lacrosse head

[ML_LAX09]

The titanium idea is a good idea but I think Warrior could have done a little better by making it looking better because from what i can see it looks kinda ugly but the design may also help the stiffness but i dont know

edit - i forgot to add that the name is not meant for a lacrosse head

the name reminds me of a cute poodle...

Oh and did anyone see the new shaft from Scorpion Lacrosse??? I've never heard of them.

[falconlax1]

They stol my idea on the material thats inside a head as a core and I had it pantented about aa year and a half ago and made a prototype of the omega head so that realy makes me mad

[ML_LAX09]

If you patented it, how could they steal it exactly?

by the way, it has a ridged design like the Helix on the sidewalls.

[chucktownattack]

I hope this will be really stiff and good for Defense. I hope it's not another "Pimping" new gimmick from Warrior. But I shouldn't be saying it sucks yet, I haven't tried it. Maybe it will be a great head.

[EastCoastDeft]

in a simple way the heads gonna be a STIFFI....a little gross if you know what i mean. does anybody know how pinched it is??? or what the weight is

[ML_LAX09]

in a simple way the heads gonna be a STIFFI....a little gross if you know what i mean. does anybody know how pinched it is??? or what the weight is

It's not even ouy yet, no one has seen a full view of it, or had a chance to weigh it. It didn't say in the Mag.

[washjeff]

warrior has apparently hired 13 yr. old boys to be their r&d... i'm boycotting them. all stx now.

[navylax161]

i bet the head is extremely heavy

[LaxMaxVince]

Ok this has to be a joke, notice the sexual innuendos?

[Brandon303]

I bet trying to pinch that thing will be a pain in the arse. However, it's a very cool idea and I would like to see how it works out.

[hcDevils391]

wouldnt the metal bend inside the head off a check and the plastic might crack around the metal, also the metal might rust if it isnt titanium

[ML_LAX09]

wouldnt the metal bend inside the head off a check and the plastic might crack around the metal, also the metal might rust if it isnt titanium


but it says titanium everywhere you look... Titanium is one of the reasons some people may buy this head.

[RIT37FO]

and it can be yours for just 199.99

[yott]

hmm the bottom looks wider than most heads. maybe the first head specifically designed for the 09 rule...

[The Doors]

nope, still looks too pinched for 09

[Blue]

whoever is in charge of naming warrior's products is either on drugs or stuck in the past. They really need to be fired.

[CustomX157]

What happens if the titanium inside bends?

[atmusfear]

and it can be yours for just 199.99

Exactly. Think about warriors heads now. A strung Helix runs, what? 104.99? Put Titanium in it, change the sidewall design, I'd say RIT's pretty close.

I guess around 174.99

[b-boy_laxman]

and warrior makes another blatent attempt to sound pimp. Look at the ads they put out.

the stiffi is gunna be huge? G-Zone penetration? The stiffi lets me play all night long? all natural male lacrosse enhancement? with the titanium vain you wont go limp in the summertime?

gimmie a frickin break. warrior is rediculous and needs to drop those bullcrap names right away. grow up you losers over at warrior

hhahahahaha i think its hilarious :clap: :lol:

[spartanlax91]

and warrior makes another blatent attempt to sound pimp. Look at the ads they put out.

the stiffi is gunna be huge? G-Zone penetration? The stiffi lets me play all night long? all natural male lacrosse enhancement? with the titanium vain you wont go limp in the summertime?

gimmie a frickin break. warrior is rediculous and needs to drop those bullcrap names right away. grow up you losers over at warrior

Amen bro, love your name. Warrior needs to stop with the lame names, and designs. especially on the kryptolytes name design, and mac daddies? you make me laugh for advertising at little kids and not teens-adults.

[gigo567]

Why must Warrior advertise like this.

The T looks like a dildo, the name stiffi (speaks for itself)

All natural male lacrosse enhancement. WTF?

All of that makes me hate the head, the only way I will buy it is if it doesn't cost over $100.

[lax33]

good idea maybe a gimmick but i cant wait to see how much warrior is gonna charge for this

[Orange]

I've never complained about Warrior's advertising before, but that is just terrible. If a parent reads that they're just gonna be like wtf is wrong with this company.

[bcannons14]

lammmeee

this will cost way to much and its not even funny

[the next 'one']

this advertising is ridiculous...

but the head idea seems pretty cool. i can see this head being used by defenders and powerful fogos all over.

and the sidewall oval thing looks like a bean.

[laxgoaliebm16]

YES WARRIOR WAY TO CONTINUE TO MAKE LAX THE SEXIEST SPORT EVER... my stiffi on my big shaft taht i play with balls with n use to poke players and penetrate zones with! it helps me make defenses pack it in

[GottaBeRed]

Warrior:
How about some translucent aircraft grade carbon fiber weave ?

In fact just to be a little more pimp - - - maybe the Ti can just be configured as insertible rods - - then I can adjust the amount of stiffness I want in my personalized head.

Better yet, drop the whole marketing angle and go back to making better products than your competition - - - sorry, what was I thinking ?

[SilverZeppelin]

the sidewall reminds me of the razer

and oh yeah, warrior, we were getting along fine with plain nylon heads...

[Hackstall]

Did anyone notice that the head itself looks like a penis? Wait a minute, they all do!

[DutchyLacrosse]

I think this goes under the "retarded ideas" category.
This is gonna cost so much..
And the fact that the titanium will either make the head heavy or warrior will be cheapskate and actually put a titanium "wire" through it.

[laxmasta8804123]

OMG that just makes warrior look retarded. i will never buy from warrior again

[lotsof]

in a simple way the heads gonna be a STIFFI....a little gross if you know what i mean.
i know what ya mean. from this - to this / to this l
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha :clap: :clap:

[preplax29]

yet another gimmick by warrior. not suprising.

[Blackhawk1]

AHAHAHHAAHAHHA STIFFI HAHAHAHA GOOD ONE WARRIOR!

Dolomite...Helix...Clutch... and now...the Stiffi! Wow these names are awesome! op forgot hte DEAL BREAKER!!! BA! Now who will honestly buy a head, walk on the field and when the ref examines it say " Yeah i bought a stiffi" to his face? Besides, i bet it will be a popular head for the people who are insecure about themselves.

[MaVeRiCk05]

Dolomite...Helix...Clutch...

dont mean to bust your chops but clutch is a brine head

[RgLax]

i swear that i saw a kid with one of these today, the sidewall looked exactly the same

[mullengoal141]

actually... its not gimmicky... if you were to look at a slow mo camera of a lacrosse shot... the head flexes backwards a considerable amount. this adds a certain amount of stiffness to the head and makes for a much more accurate and a little faster shot.

[czechinthepipes]

I find this advertising very, um... terrible (thats a nice way to put it), I mean what is warrior thinking? If i was a parent and I see my kid with a head called "stiffi" I'd be like WTF??? whats next a shaft called the "extacy" or "the penetrator" or better yet "the banger"???
I guess warriors knew advertising is to intrigue our perverted lacrosse friends. :chuckle:
This has gotten ridiculous.

[Talent223]

Are they actually serious about this??? I think that if they are, the sexual innuendo has gone too far...


I think this is some kind of sick joke put out by warrior..

[LaxMaxVince]

Guys this HAS to be a joke. First, when that plastic cracks around the titanium, then it could cut you...ouch.

Second, Warrior wouldnt include all of those innuendos in their ad...

Its name is a freakin innuendo.

I dont think i have to restate the innuendos, i already see three.

[italianstalion]

the spelling would drive me crazy

[Blackhawk1]

dont mean to bust your chops but clutch is a brine head

I knew i would mess up somehow!

[the next 'one']

has anyone thought about how heavy this will be?

[clax2725]

its practacly a razer with titanium in it. jesse hubard was useing it at a clinic i went to. its about the wieght of a revo pro. it DOES NOT bend whatsoever, either

[gigo567]

I find this advertising very, um... terrible (thats a nice way to put it), I mean what is warrior thinking? If i was a parent and I see my kid with a head called "stiffi" I'd be like WTF??? whats next a shaft called the "extacy" or "the penetrator" or better yet "the banger"???
I guess warriors knew advertising is to intrigue our perverted lacrosse friends. :chuckle:
This has gotten ridiculous.
I thin they should make a shaft called the Pimp Cane.

[sammyduelist]

I thin they should make a shaft called the Pimp Cane.
Available in Pimptastic Pink

[PMRaiderLax6]

in a simple way the heads gonna be a STIFFI....a little gross if you know what i mean. does anybody know how pinched it is??? or what the weight is
If they're smart, they'll make it follow the 2009 NCAA regulations.

[hawksattack26]

the convo wit ur mom
U: mom i need a new head
mom: ok which one do u want
U: the stiffi
mom: wat go to ur room right now im telling ur father

[sailorslax88]

warrior = whole bunch of pervs. yet it doesnt seem like a horrible idea, its just so horribly obvious that they're going for an erection joke here.

[Orange]

I find this advertising very, um... terrible (thats a nice way to put it), I mean what is warrior thinking? If i was a parent and I see my kid with a head called "stiffi" I'd be like WTF??? whats next a shaft called the "extacy" or "the penetrator" or better yet "the banger"???
I guess warriors knew advertising is to intrigue our perverted lacrosse friends. :chuckle:
This has gotten ridiculous.
I don't know if you are being sarcastic but they already have a Penetrator. I'm thinking you're being serious because as far as I know they don't have an E head.

And read my post on the first page, we have the EXACT same thoughts on this.

[roycegracie47]

When I first saw this thread earlier today, I thought it was a bad, bad joke. Getting home to find the new issue of IL and seeing it in person makes me wish it was. While I personally have nothing against warrior and think it's an interesting concept (gimmicky, mayhaps, but so are elastomer molds, floating sidewalls, rubber fingers, rubber bands & flex points etc...), but I can't see this name lasting long. While the past names for Warrior products have come and gone, this one seems to be more "shoved in your face" that previous ones. US Lacrosse received tons of mail asking for the "tamer" warrior ads to be pulled or subscriptions would be cancelled, I see this eliciting a bigger response. I wonder if the next time we see a full picture we find it has a new name.

[shakerlax222225]

o wow, thought i had seen the worst of it. I cant see this ad being run in further issues, people will definitely complain.

[gabeinator]

this may sound stupid but what magazine is IL??

[laxgoalieguy123]

^^^inside lacrosse^^^^^^^^^^^^

warrior has pushed it too far. i mean come on, why dont the just come out and call it the erection head or something, that is pretty much what they are doing. if you look at warrior hockey, their sticks have "nipple grip"........ i would stop buying warrior if i didnt like their stuff so much

[thepalehorse]

i personally like warrior because of their quality but atleast they got new products coming out. brine has garbage, its either to0 weak or to0 flexible and stx cant get past coming out with the x2 and proton, be creative and get past a two hit wonder. atleast warrior was being creative and made somthing that could change lacrosse while the other companies pump out garbage or rehash or equipement as new. i will buy the stiffi, how gives a big one what its called? it could be called the c--k sucker for all i care! if its good ill buy it. for defense ill need a good head that wont break or bend after a practice. i will be the first inline to buy this because this looks like somthing worth buying and i cant rely on the garbage that has and will come out by the other companies.

[duck]

........ i would stop buying warrior if i didnt like their stuff so much

Ok, so its well agreed by many of us here on TLF that Warrior's marketing ploys are horrible and need to change.

But why would they do that when they're still outselling most of their competitors? We can piss and moan all we want online but until everyone who says that they hate Warrior's marketing is willing to say that with their pocket book and refuse to buy any Warrior products, its a moot point.

Personally I have never purchased a Warrior product. And I don't intend on doing so until they change their ways and focus more on putting out the best quality product and not just focusing on selling what they can. But people and companies work on systems of punishments and rewards, and until its rewarding (or damaging) to use these marketing tactics, Warrior won't change.

I mean, think about it. If a mom tell her kid not to throw his food, but then when he does she gives him desert anyway, the kid is getting no consequences. If the consumers tell Warrior they don't want this marketing, but still buy the stuff, what's the incentive for Warrior to change its ways?

I'm not calling for a boycott of Warrior or anything, if you like their stuff then buy it. But if you're really so outraged about it, then show it by not supporting them and by not purchasing their equipment. (by the way laxgoalieguy123 I'm not talking about you specifically, I just used your quote because it was the closest to my post. I find it to be a common sentiment.)

On the head itself, I doubt Warrior will be the only company coming out with a head that is titanium reinforced...it was bound to happen and I won't knock it til I try it. I just want to hear if anybody's going to be complaining about the weight. "Oh my gosh, .5 ounces of metal!" I can definitely see it happening.

[fatmanlax]

I think what they are trying to do is to keep the heads from warping at the bottom like all pro series heads. But like everyone else I hate the way they advertise. They are trying to get the 4-8th grade group of kids to buy there stuff because grade school and middle school kids are getting more bad *** and pimp. So warrior is like lets try to please them instead they should stop worrying about the advertisments and make some good equipment.

[LaxMaxVince]

You come back from a lax store...

Mom- Hey how was your day?
you- I got a stiffi!
Mom- You know what sweetie thats not something you should tell me.


Anyone else want to declare a boycott on this head?

[Valaxman17]

Mom:hey honey how was the game
son: it was fun but someone hit my stiffi
Mom: (calls fathers name) tells him what he said
Dad: go to your room

[gigo567]

You come back from a lax store...

Mom- Hey how was your day?
you- I got a stiffi!
Mom- You know what sweetie thats not something you me.


Anyone else want to declare a boycott on this head?
Not really, I hate the advertising/name of the head but I know I am going to buy it (if it is cheap enough)

[LaxMaxVince]

Not really, I hate the advertising/name of the head but I know I am going to buy it (if it is cheap enough)

Well I guess i may fall for it and buy it, i just think warrior has gone too far with teh crazy names

and i thought mojo was bad...

[RIT37FO]

sex sells
and unfortuantly the world is buying

[RYU]

1. Spartan's post made me laugh out loud. He's right on the money, and I think he might have a future in marketing at Warrior.

2. See if you can ask, "Can I get a Warrior Nutt Hutt to go w/ my Stiffi?," to an adult w/ a straight-face &/or w/o blushing.

3. Why are some you still surprised? This is just Warrior being Warrior. :whyme:
http://www.lacrosseforums.com/showthread.php?t=62903

Other names that you can expect to see on their future lax or hockey equipment include: 2 Timer, Organik Grip, Horny Toad, Kronik, Outlaw, ODB, Villain, Shocker (gloves), Blade 2.0 F-Off (you know, b/c face-off wasn't cool enough; they had to find a way to fit in a double entendre), The Johnson (stick of course). I'm not making any of these up. All are on file at USPTO.

4. As others like duck have commented, Warrior will change the direction of their advertising when they feel the negative effects in their bank account. If you feel so strongly about it, then stop buying their products.

5. The Stiffi looks about as promising as the STX Liquid or Brine Prophecy.

I find this advertising very, um... terrible (thats a nice way to put it), I mean what is warrior thinking? If i was a parent and I see my kid with a head called "stiffi" I'd be like WTF??? whats next a shaft called the "extacy" or "the penetrator" or better yet "the banger"???

I guess warriors knew advertising is to intrigue our perverted lacrosse friends.
This has gotten ridiculous.I don't know if you are being sarcastic but they already have a Penetrator. I'm thinking you're being serious because as far as I know they don't have an E head.Not heads (not yet anyway), but before their current line of Vapor Tek Zerofriction apparel, Warrior had XTC training gear.

[tkdlaxer]

I'd like to point out how well Warriors advertising is working, just look at you guys. Your all up in arms about an add..thats what they want. I'd say its pretty effective.

[preplax29]

Available in Pimptastic Pink

also available in pimpalicous purple and oh so pimpin leopard skin print.

I think this is just erroneous. I think warrior is pulling a stunt and seeing what they can and cannot get away with. I showed my Dad and he thought it was hilarious, but I wouldnt dare show my mom. Honestly, Warrior is trying to make lacrosse a lifestyle, not a sport.

[matt c]

i personally like warrior because of their quality but atleast they got new products coming out. brine has garbage, its either to0 weak or to0 flexible and stx cant get past coming out with the x2 and proton, be creative and get past a two hit wonder. atleast warrior was being creative and made somthing that could change lacrosse while the other companies pump out garbage or rehash or equipement as new. i will buy the stiffi, how gives a big one what its called? it could be called the c--k sucker for all i care! if its good ill buy it. for defense ill need a good head that wont break or bend after a practice. i will be the first inline to buy this because this looks like somthing worth buying and i cant rely on the garbage that has and will come out by the other companies.

im with you i buy all the gimmics but most of them turn out to be good... though my mom probly wouldnt let me get it if it was called the c--k sucker...

[-calattack5-]

that looks plain ugly and the sidewalls look plain ugly plus with the .1 ounce of ti in it they will raise the price 50 bucks from what its worth

[Zakk852]

i actually think its pretty funny but i want to see it in person before i make my decision on it

[bcannons14]

I'd like to point out how well Warriors advertising is working, just look at you guys. Your all up in arms about an add..thats what they want. I'd say its pretty effective.


exactly! these guys want us to remember this ad wherever we go.
go to the lax shop.. hmm, ill look at the stiffi head. next thing you know, you buy one and tell all your friends. now im not gonna get this, and am sick of warrior, but on a serious note they sadly know what theyre doing.

[golden noug]

You guys do realize that the supposed '09 rule change isn't even definite and there's a very good chance nothing will happen at all?

[GoBucks]

The R & D team must be pretty racy now. Very suggestive name, real bad humor. I remember talking to a friend about this, and we agreed that a head like that would be super expensive, amazingly stiff, and it would be the heaviest head on the market.

[XxlacrossexX]

also available in pimpalicous purple and oh so pimpin leopard skin print.

I think this is just erroneous. I think warrior is pulling a stunt and seeing what they can and cannot get away with. I showed my Dad and he thought it was hilarious, but I wouldnt dare show my mom. Honestly, Warrior is trying to make lacrosse a lifestyle, not a sport.
Lacrosse IS a lifestyle :read:

[WHEELAX2]

whoever is in charge of naming warrior's products is either on drugs or stuck in the past. They really need to be fired.


jessie hubbard is not on drugs

[BGun]

This advertising has seriously gone too far. I used to get a little bit of a kick our of how rediculous it was before, and i even laughed about this for a second...then I realized that it was serious.

I was considering getting a revo or evo pro/2.0 and give warrior a chance (because i have never used their stuff before), but after seeing this I am positive that I do not want to support them in any way.

[Nigel_Tufnel]

Calm down...it IS a joke. "Works best for G-Zone penetration?" "The Stiffi is going to be huge?" "All natural male lacrosse enhancement?" Look at the T in Stiffi: It's a phallus! Come on, it's all just a joke.

[LaxMaxVince]

Nigel I hope youre right man.

[preplax29]

Lacrosse IS a lifestyle :read:

Lacrosse can be a lifestyle, but warrior is trying to make it a certain kinda lifestyle that I personally hate, and that many of my friends also do hate.

[matt c]

exactly! these guys want us to remember this ad wherever we go.
go to the lax shop.. hmm, ill look at the stiffi head. next thing you know, you buy one and tell all your friends. now im not gonna get this, and am sick of warrior, but on a serious note they sadly know what theyre doing.

true I told all of my friends about this today

[paul8]

i seriously dont think that this is a legitimate product. i cant believe that even warrior would be dumb enough to have a head with that name, and to put it in the most ridiculous and suggestive (abeit hilarious) add ive ever seen. its not even clever, subtle innuendo, its blatantly sexual. Buck wilder? wtf were they thinking?

[preplax29]

This is exactly why I stick to Brine and STX.

[LaxDuex]

Now thats a Laugh Out Loud.... I wouldnt buy that thing... It would probably be too heavy, even though TITANIUM is light, and it will cost probs about 180-200 smackers... What a waste.

[shakerlax222225]

there is no way warrior would throw away tons of $$ to place a full color ad in a magazine as a joke. I can imagine this head costing more than any other head on the market now, just because it has 2 words plastered all over it; Warrior and Titanium

[laxn]

I HATE WARRIOR. I think this whole image of theirs is ultimately bad for the image of lacrosse as a whole.

[Blackhawk1]

i want a stiffi. Give it to me on a Deal Breaker please. (Maybe my friends will think im cool now).

You kno this is aimed towards us teenagers, i mean i hear more stiffi jokes in a day than most people do in their lives.

[rebellax10]

Warrior is definetely doing their part on invoating the sport. Cool ideas even if they dont work out. Think of what they are testing right now that they don't have plans of putting into production yet. Could be the next big thing in defense heads.

[MainLax28]

I personally thought it was rather cute. i laughed at it, and honestly I can say that I would buy it. Ads are overrated. Not once have I seen and ad and been "MUST BUY ITEM IN SAID AD" I always wait for a review. You never know, this could be the next edge in innovation, hybrid heads. Don't talk before you walk.

[DJ Death]

yeah, who knows, it might actually be a good product.

[laxgoaliebm16]

think how amazing this would be in a goalie head

[CHSLAX22x]

when I look at just the head(not the ads), i kinda like the idea, except for the fact that it will probly cost over 130. But, i will have to look at alot more of the head(pinch scoop sidewall holes) before i even consider buying it.

It is getting harder and harder to look beyond the advertising and only look at all of the good products warrior has made. The ad in itself would make me ashamed to walk around with a "stiffi". Im sure they could have came up with something creative involving skeletons or bones or something, but they didnt.

[nemiman18]

a nemesis

no, a gaurdian w/ this technology

[gordo934]

warrior has apparently hired 13 yr. old boys to be their r&d... i'm boycotting them. all stx now.

im with ya this is just plain retarded

[italianstalion]

all you guys who are saying you are boycotting warrior blah blah blah are being very immature. They make great products and work on improving the sport. Just because they advertise to teenagers, who are the next generation of lacrosse players dosnt mean you have to be a baby and boycott them. So what, they used a common advertising technique, making people laugh, whats the big deal? I can't wait to try out this new head Stiffi or not.

[Hoya Saxa!]

did you guys read the surgeon general warning. I think that is THE worst. If this isnt a joke, i wouldnt be surprised anyway.

On the head though...looks like any other gimmick...Just stick with the normal plastic.

[Laxer1241]

how did you get the magazine so fast?? this thread has been up awhile now and no one else has got one that ive read...

[WIlax]

I forsee A LOT of emergency room visits for broken fingers and wrists once defenders get their hands on these...and this head is going to cost like $150..and since its from warrior itll be like $250..just another rediculous gimmick..I dont hate warrior or anything..I love their shafts and the razer..but their marketing scheme has got to go considering lacrosse is the kind of sport that you raise your kids on..
With the way Warriors going with thier marketing, by the time I have a kid hes gonna be asking," Dad can you buy me the new Warrior Dirty Pirate Hooker shaft? It comes with the sweet ribbed condom grip for your hands pleasure!"...and thats not cool.

[Sir Mackel]

YES WARRIOR WAY TO CONTINUE TO MAKE LAX THE SEXIEST SPORT EVER... my stiffi on my big shaft taht i play with balls with n use to poke players and penetrate zones with! it helps me make defenses pack it in
r u being sarcastic but still tht is pretty gay/somewut funny (but not from a marketing company)

[CSlax06]

Yes Im pretty sure that was sarcasm.

Does anyone else think that the sidewall looks like a dildo?

[Valaxman17]

ya it definately does

[laxgoaliebm16]

haha it was kinda half and half... i actualy enjoy reading their ads they are pretty funny from a " man i cant believe they did that" view

[paul8]

why is everyone guessing that the price will be so outrageous? its only a litle bit of titanium, not like the whole head is made of it. wait until you try a product before you knock it.
i think that all the fuss is about the name of the head and the add that warrior allegedly published it in. i say allegedly because im still not sure whether the add and the head are even real. if this is a joke, then mad props to whoever made it up

[QnzLaxStatz]

titanium shafts are only around 150 besides the levitation which is just a joke anyway...im guessing that there is alot more titanium in the modern titanium shaft then there is in this stiffi..i dont see the price being that big of an issue considering most heads nowadays are close to a 100 dollars..then again this is warrior..but im actually very excited for this head because ive always wanted a metal enhanched head..this will be one of the only lacrosse products i buy right away and for retail price....

[MiddieMan05]

To be honest, I don't think its thaaaaat bad for you guys to go, "Warrior sucks", or "I will never buy from warrior again". I know all the sexual inneundos are pretty inappropriate, but not one person here is taking it seriously. You all are getting a good laugh and then moving on, nothing serious or life scarring, and that's the point. Most people that read these magazines are old enough and mature enough to understand that the marketing technique (but not the product) is a joke designed to make people laugh and to have them remeber it. I am in no way endorsing this type of advertisement and think it's still wrong, but it's just a joke and nothing more.

[laxgoalie2011]

I think that it is a good concept, but I also think that it will crash and burn, just like the pulse. Like orange, I have never had a problem with warrior's advertising before, but this has gone too far. I myself own some warrior items (and love them), but i refuse to EVER buy this head unless it is less than.....$50. Like I said before, I think it will crash and burn, so keep your eyes open in the great atlantic "sale" section.

[LaxDman62]

I doubt this would work very well. Since when somebody would check the head the plastic on it would hitt he titanium on the inside and crack. It would probably brake more because its not flexible.

[bushleague24]

this seems like a joke

[ByrdDpole]

So...warrior makes a goalie head called the snatch...

so If I were to score on a goalie using one of those, my stiffi would be penetrating the snatch?

Oh wow.

[etowahlax21]

I think it is an O.K. idea, but with a really crappy name.

[jesusmacabee]

So...warrior makes a goalie head called the snatch...

so If I were to score on a goalie using one of those, my stiffi would be penetrating the snatch?

Oh wow.

thats really funny. i laughed at both of the names cuz they are just so outrageous.

[will#18]

hhahahahaha i think its hilarious :clap: :lol:
me too.that is so funny

[middiesrulz]

this is warrior's attempt to lead defensemen, i mean think of all the defense heads on the market, not that much, titanium in heads? thats gonna be pretty durable, revo pro is currently the only d head that warrior has, but then again, this might blow over like the mojo and the stx arrow

[LaX_MaN_22]

this is just insane guys think about it. the nutt hutt, stiffy, the *** bag. remember that one they've gotten carried away. i mean not to harp on it but lately lax hasent gotten the best publicity lately aka duke hoax. but i mean these things are just stupid. i htink warrior could absolutely dominate lax product they have the resourses. but im sticking to my non gimmick heads my x2 profile answer cyber e3's pp's and matrixs'. and regular ti shafts and harrows and kryptos and such. no kevlar infused shafts with titanium heads with flex bands and moving sidewalls with elastomer rubber stuff. i mean seriuosly. but thats just me.

[MACDADDY]

this is just insane guys think about it. the nutt hutt, stiffy, the *** bag. remember that one they've gotten carried away. i mean not to harp on it but lately lax hasent gotten the best publicity lately aka duke hoax. but i mean these things are just stupid. i htink warrior could absolutely dominate lax product they have the resourses. but im sticking to my non gimmick heads my x2 profile answer cyber e3's pp's and matrixs'. and regular ti shafts and harrows and kryptos and such. no kevlar infused shafts with titanium heads with flex bands and moving sidewalls with elastomer rubber stuff. i mean seriuosly. but thats just me.
for seriously lol
i think companies are moving more and more away from the "spirit of the game"

[JHUlaxer12]

its problebly gonna be heavy if theres metal in it.

[Lacrosse4life31]

Are they actually serious about this??? I think that if they are, the sexual innuendo has gone too far...


I think this is some kind of sick joke put out by warrior..

im getting a stiffi just thinking about it!
jk jk jk jk jk jk

lol this head seems cool, like the idea is there, but not feelin it if ya know what i mean.

[big crunch22]

I think that it is a good concept, but I also think that it will crash and burn, just like the pulse. Like orange, I have never had a problem with warrior's advertising before, but this has gone too far. I myself own some warrior items (and love them), but i refuse to EVER buy this head unless it is less than.....$50. Like I said before, I think it will crash and burn, so keep your eyes open in the great atlantic "sale" section.
the pulse didn't "crash and burn"

[Lacrosse4life31]

think how amazing this would be in a goalie head
let me guess: the Big Stiffi -- the one that everyone wants!

[mljohn1992]

do you realize how heavy a titanium head would be? Titanium is so much heavier than what heads are made of right now. Plus, this will cost a lot.

[WNHSlacrosse29]

all i see on the warrior web site is the helix, by the way is that a good head?

so if someone could send me the link or send me pictures and info.

also please give me opion on helix i am thinking about buying

[creeklaxmid]

I bet the head is really heavy. And im betting that the plastic will crack right around the plastic. What happens if the titanium bends?

[warriorlaxboy1]

I find this advertising very, um... terrible (thats a nice way to put it), I mean what is warrior thinking? If i was a parent and I see my kid with a head called "stiffi" I'd be like WTF??? whats next a shaft called the "extacy" or "the penetrator" or better yet "the banger"???
I guess warriors knew advertising is to intrigue our perverted lacrosse friends. :chuckle:
This has gotten ridiculous.

It's funny you say that...Warrior does have a box lacrosse head called the penitrator
http://sportstop.com/product/WARRIOR06PENW

[boxpimp66]

it looks like theres only titanium in a few small spots. i would be impressed if they made a whole head of hollow titanium then thinly coated it in plastic or better yet a head made of plastic reinforced with kevelar. on the name and advertisement i personaly think its histarical, i would love to say i have a stiffi or penitrator on the end of my fatboy, i won't because both those heads look inferior to my clutch but if i thought it was a supperior product i would most definatly buy one. it's a big company and its out to make money and the pimping theme is obviously working for them so why not stick with it, i mean seriously what teenage boy can honestly say he doesn't want to be a pimp? their getting loyal customers at a young age and making them warrior customers for life, it's just smart marketing and thats all it is

[cbstringers]

edit: you no whatever its actually kinda funny

[ET5057]

and warrior makes another blatent attempt to sound pimp. Look at the ads they put out.

the stiffi is gunna be huge? G-Zone penetration? The stiffi lets me play all night long? all natural male lacrosse enhancement? with the titanium vain you wont go limp in the summertime?

gimmie a frickin break. warrior is rediculous and needs to drop those bullcrap names right away. grow up you losers over at warrior

THIS AD IS HIDEOUS AND RIDICULOUS AND WARRIOR IS KILLING LACROSSE'S REP!!... I talked to some of my friends and they were like.. yeah that's how messed up lacrosse is

[Ipod 777]

They're trying something new. No one has even seen/tried this so you all really shouldn't automatically say its stupid and rediculous. I don't see how trying to make a new head is such a crime. Give it a chance.

[Ipod 777]

I take back everything I just said!
I just re read the article.

"I've poked thousands of times in my career. Experience tells me I do the hardest with my stiffi."

"The stiffi lets me PLAY all night long."

"All natural"

"You and your stiffi will always be up for a challange."

The stiffi will perform like a bonafide champion on the hardest fields and remain hard as a rock."

"You won't go limp pver the summer time"

"G-ZONE penetration"

ARE YOU KIDDING ME!!

By the way, stiffi= sTIffi
as in TI=titanium

[CustomX157]

If their getting loyal customers theyre just getting the rich kids who dont play but just talk the talk and are trying to look oh so pimp. Any real, self respecting lacrosse player wouldnt be caught dead with a stick called the "stiffi". Im only 13 and I dont find it funny at all, the only funny thing is that Warrior was actually dumb enough to put out an ad like that. Even if the technology is good they wont get a good sale just because of one little detail, THE NAME. Smart move Warrior. Once again, HATS OFF TO YOU! You are trashing the great sport of lacrosse, just like the strippers who got Duke into trouble, the only national lax publicity is gonna be bad publicity if you keep on doing stuff like this. (And not all publicity is good publicity) Your stupidity is AMAZING

(Yea that was kinda dramatic put I was on a roll, and its true though)

they are destroying the sport of lacrosse with a name they give to a head. Some logic you got there. It is intended to be funny, it is funny and if you are going to get all uptight about it, then don't support them by buying it. There is no need for you to claim that a perfectly decent company is tarnishing the sport simply because you have chosen to disagree with their naming scheme. Also, since when does self respect have to do with what gear you buy? I mean, "I respect myself so I'm not going to buy this perfectly good head because it has a crude name." Wow, that's cool. Maybe you shouldn't buy kings because you aren't part of a royal family. Don't you dare pick up some gladiators or Shoguns either. Seriously, quit complaining. Warrior makes some good stuff, warrior makes some bad stuff. All companies do.

[cbstringers]

you no whatever its actually kinda funny

[CustomX157]

Im not saying ita bad head at all. Im saying the add campaign is the bad part and its really pathetic. People are gonna buy their stuff either way so why make lax and themselves look bad. The head actually looks cool, but because of the adds I dont think I'd get one. It'll be a smart move if Warrior stops publishing these adds, but because of the name I dont think they will. Why do this if its gonna sell anyways?

Shock factor. It stuck in your head didn't it?

[boxpimp66]

if you say those ads are anything but histarical your way too up tight, i mean come on "I've poked thousands of times in my career. Experience tells me I do the hardest with my stiffi." "G-Zone Penetration" thats possibly the funniest ad for anything i've ever seen. if warrior wants to market to pimps or people with Erectile Dysfunction who cares? thats there choice to make. nobuddy likes cry babies so quit complaining and just don't buy their products if you have that big of a moral problem with their marketing

[JazzyJake]

Lacrosse can be a lifestyle, but warrior is trying to make it a certain kinda lifestyle that I personally hate, and that many of my friends also do hate.
i wish they'd back off with the whole 'pimp / player's club' deal, and just make the amazing products that they always have.
but first, to redeem themselves, BRING BACK THE BLADE!!!! :wow:

[gigo567]

If their getting loyal customers theyre just getting the rich kids who dont play but just talk the talk and are trying to look oh so pimp. Any real, self respecting lacrosse player wouldnt be caught dead with a stick called the "stiffi". Im only 13 and I dont find it funny at all, the only funny thing is that Warrior was actually dumb enough to put out an ad like that. Even if the technology is good they wont get a good sale just because of one little detail, THE NAME. Smart move Warrior. Once again, HATS OFF TO YOU! You are trashing the great sport of lacrosse, just like the strippers who got Duke into trouble, the only national lax publicity is gonna be bad publicity if you keep on doing stuff like this. (And not all publicity is good publicity) Your stupidity is AMAZING

(Yea that was kinda dramatic put I was on a roll, and its true though)
Um, I'm rich. I admit that because of my parents I am loaded right now. But do you see me getting Warrior gear, NO!

How about you stop whining, every sport is like this, everything in life is like this. Wake up, its the real world, you can't have everything censored so your mind stays clean.
I am so sorry heads cant be called the hi-wall again, and that companies use creative advertising to market to kids. Yes you heard me, kids just like you are buying the gear, you are the ones feeding the fire.
You think it is just the rich kids, no it isn't. Rich doesn't mean spoiled, and rich kids, like me, actually play for the love of the damn sport. But kids like you, who are frickin selfish, you think that everything that can be a 'bad word' is marketed to the rich kids.
I have seen plenty of other frikin sports that use this strategy, Skateboard brands have hookers for boards graphics and are selling bape like jackets. Baseball, soccer, football; they all use this. Not only lacrosse.


I applaud Warrior, for getting mindless 13 year olds just like you to buy there gear, they are the ones making the money and you are the ones giving it to them.

End rant.

[JazzyJake]

that was a good rant, imho.
EX. how about that world cup ad with the soccer player that appeared to be jacking off infront of the TV and his gf/wife saw him?
it's STILL innuendo

[COLORADO_LAX]

on the name and advertisement i personaly think its histarical, i would love to say i have a stiffi or penitrator on the end of my fatboy
hahahahhahahh thats one of the funniest things ive heard on tlf

[cbstringers]

Shock factor. It stuck in your head didn't it?


You do have a point there.

[CustomX157]

i wish they'd back off with the whole 'pimp / player's club' deal, and just make the amazing products that they always have.
but first, to redeem themselves, BRING BACK THE BLADE!!!! :wow:

I believe there is a thread in which the creator says a warrior rep told him the blade 2.0 will be out this fall.

[BGun]

I believe there is a thread in which the creator says a warrior rep told him the blade 2.0 will be out this fall.

If this is true i might have to re-think my not buying warrior products. Honestly the blade just looks too good to pass up.

[Lacrosse4life31]

the stiffi is kinda nice, i have one (nieghbor is a patent lawyer for warrior, get free stuff before it ever comes out) i'll review it later with pics and all, but i think its kinda neat.

[ML_LAX09]

the stiffi is kinda nice, i have one (nieghbor is a patent lawyer for warrior, get free stuff before it ever comes out) i'll review it later with pics and all, but i think its kinda neat.


OK, I'll call you out. Post pics.

[laxd139]

and warrior makes another blatent attempt to sound pimp. Look at the ads they put out.

the stiffi is gunna be huge? G-Zone penetration? The stiffi lets me play all night long? all natural male lacrosse enhancement? with the titanium vain you wont go limp in the summertime?...

they also said "if you have the desire to play lax for more then 8 hrs contact a doctor..." or something to that tune

[laxd139]

yes, the advertising is pretty risky, but WHO CARES!!!!!! (and who cares what it looks like if it works)

personally i think the reinforced head is a pretty good, innovative idea, especially for D i play D and hate it when my head warps and bends with checks.

plus, if no one had seen the ad and just heard of a new reinforced head called a "stiffi" nobody would think anything of it except for a couple of perverts trying to get a couple of laughs, the name makes perfect sense the titanium does make the head 'stiffer'...

And for all yall bashing warriors advertising and threatening to boycott... you just let warrior win, they don't care what you say because they know 99% of you wont actually keep your word and boycott. You've given them just what they've wanted... about a hundred people raging and ranting over their new product... all they want
is publicity

Yall are making this a way bigger deal than it actually is, and i bet there's plenty who agree with me.

Personally i will definitely look into buying this product (at a reasonable price) because its a great idea.

I buy products for how they perform, not how they look, or how they're advertised, or what brand makes them

[Lacrosse4life31]

OK, I'll call you out. Post pics.

ok, this weekend i will!

[GoBucks]

Wow, I just got the new issue of IL and Warrior's advertising strategy is absurd. It's dispicable. What the hell is Warrior thinking? O wait, they're thinking that a bunch of teenage and young adult laxers will be talking about this endlessly! This is just what Warrior is trying to do. Their advertising has terrible taste, but it gets people talking. That's why we have a 4+ page thread on this, and it's still going! From a marketing perspective, Warrior has accomplished its goal: to spread the word about their newest product.

[Lacrosse4life31]

yes, the advertising is pretty risky, but WHO CARES!!!!!! (and who cares what it looks like if it works)

personally i think the reinforced head is a pretty good, innovative idea, especially for D i play D and hate it when my head warps and bends with checks.

plus, if no one had seen the ad and just heard of a new reinforced head called a "stiffi" nobody would think anything of it except for a couple of perverts trying to get a couple of laughs, the name makes perfect sense the titanium does make the head 'stiffer'...

And for all yall bashing warriors advertising and threatening to boycott... you just let warrior win, they don't care what you say because they know 99% of you wont actually keep your word and boycott. You've given them just what they've wanted... about a hundred people raging and ranting over their new product... all they want
is publicity

Yall are making this a way bigger deal than it actually is, and i bet there's plenty who agree with me.

Personally i will definitely look into buying this product (at a reasonable price) because its a great idea.

I buy products for how they perform, not how they look, or how they're advertised, or what brand makes them

THANK YOU!!!

[WIlax]

ok, this weekend i will!

you DEFINATLY dont have one..I guarantee you that theres less than like 15 that are actually made right now and theyd all be prototypes..and I HIGHLY doubt that you have one of them

[gigo567]

ok, this weekend i will!
By this weekend it must be this Saturday or Sunday. I want proof of this.

[italianstalion]

By this weekend it must be this Saturday or Sunday. I want proof of this.
and for proof its yours you need like a piece of paper or something with your TLF name and the date or something along those likes, so there isnt any photoshopping taking place

[CustomX157]

and for proof its yours you need like a piece of paper or something with your TLF name and the date or something along those likes, so there isnt any photoshopping taking place

Well, nothing like getting a little serious.

[italianstalion]

Well, nothing like getting a little serious.
He could just pphotoshop it into his bedroom or something like tha, this way we have proof.

[DJ Death]

then what's to stop him from photoshopping a piece of paper with his TLF name on it...?

[italianstalion]

then what's to stop him from photoshopping a piece of paper with his TLF name on it...?
Yea true, I thought of this also but only after I posted before so I kinda just left it.

[gigo567]

then what's to stop him from photoshopping a piece of paper with his TLF name on it...?
What if he took a picture of himself with the head and holding a piece of paper with his TLF user name.

[WIlax]

What if he took a picture of himself with the head and holding a piece of paper with his TLF user name.

true that...and if he can photoshop himself holding the head...then hes a god and noones allowed to rip on him even if he doesnt have the head hahaha

[italianstalion]

true that...and if he can photoshop himself holding the head...then hes a god and noones allowed to rip on him even if he doesnt have the head hahaha
I second that LOL

[lax@wwu21]

If they're smart, they'll make it follow the 2009 NCAA regulations.


Did you see the name? Did you see the advertising? Warrior is obviously not smart. :thumbsdow

[lax@wwu21]

Could be the next big thing in defense heads.

Or the next big joke...

Anybody check laxshopper.com? You can check by brand specific name.

Warrior has a head called the "snatch". You tell me. What is their marketing scheme if they have a head called the STIFFI and one called a SNATCH...

Warrior has lost my money. I will still buy Warrior gear, but it will be used so they don't get my money-if there were really something I was looking for! Only thing is an EVO PRO.

STX supports College Lacrosse across the country and has great products. That is why I only play with STX gear. No stupid gimmic names or products (except liquid). Brine, Warrior are just jokes.

Imagine a STIFFI on the end of a Pink DB803. Gait is another joke. Torque is their saving grace. Even then mine broke on the scoop and severed my sidewall strings more times than I can remember.

[TPGoalie]

i love that. the stiffi, and the f-off. i don't see why everyones freaking out about nothing. i personally think the ad is hilarious, and that it will sell if its not ridiculously overpriced. its also definitely not a joke. I've talked to a warrior rep , and although he was a jerk about most of the other brands, he said the stiffi was coming out.

ps. brine and warrior are now owned by the same people or are somehow connected.

pss. the voyce is a no go. not coming out.

[Wolfylacrosse]

The "Stiffi"? wtf! ummm... boner?

[WIlax]

The "Stiffi"? wtf! ummm... boner?

Well thanks..Im sure none of us knew what a Stiffi was..thanks for clearing that up...

[BurnSomeRope]

Coming in November. Titanium frame throughout the head. Talked to a guy at the local lacrosse shop yesterday about it. Too bad i hate warrior heads. Maybe this one will change my opinion.

[BurnSomeRope]

and warrior makes another blatent attempt to sound pimp. Look at the ads they put out.

the stiffi is gunna be huge? G-Zone penetration? The stiffi lets me play all night long? all natural male lacrosse enhancement? with the titanium vain you wont go limp in the summertime?

gimmie a frickin break. warrior is rediculous and needs to drop those bullcrap names right away. grow up you losers over at warrior

Basically Warrior is run by 20 year old stoners. The ad is a play on Enzyte - a natural male enhancer. Comedy central has commercials for it all the time.

[Ipod 777]

I really need a stiffi.

Any1 know how I can get a stiffi?

I need a stiffi ASAP!

[WIlax]

Besides all the marketing strategies and advertising..I actually want a Stiffi...=D man that sounds funny..

[DJ Death]

pss. the voyce is a no go. not coming out.
proof? besides the rather mundane "this guy told me so"?

[TPGoalie]

proof? besides the rather mundane "this guy told me so"?


cant get proof, but i was there in person when a rep was talking to my local lax shop owner and heard him say it wasnt coming out

[mmattack]

Question: If the head chipped a bit, and the metal lining on the inside was showing, would that make it illegal?

[CustomX157]

Warrior has a head called the "snatch". You tell me. What is their marketing scheme if they have a head called the STIFFI and one called a SNATCH...



Snatch means to grab quickly. i hardly thought think they were making reference to a coocher.

[Ipod 777]

The head already has spaces where you can see the titanium. So no it wouldn't.

[LaxLlama8]

Ok this has to be a joke, notice the sexual innuendos?
How could you not notice them? It's like sitting in the desert and not noticing the sun. My non-lacrosse friends and I had a good laugh on the bus this morning, but that's all we'll ever get out of the Stiffi, even though it'll apparently be huge.

[lax@wwu21]

Snatch means to grab quickly. i hardly thought think they were making reference to a coocher.

And I am sure they are inferring that the head is only stiff, not what we are assuming they mean?? :nono: :dummy: :dummy: :dummy: :puke: :flamed: :bartmoon: :fart: :guns: :read:

[GWDefenender32]

i like the idea of a stiff head for defense

[WIlax]

ok, this weekend i will!

Cmon man wheres the proof..you said by this weekend..and Im dying to see your stiffi ;)

[lax playa29]

i think it will be a dominate face off head..but it might be a little heavy..

[WIlax]

it would probably be really dominant..unless you bent the inner titanium..then youd be 100% screwed

[VTLaxFan]

Warrior has tried all of this middle school popular names, like GRILLZ, Pimp, MacDaddy, SuperFly, and now this. Next thing you know, there will be a Warrior GangBanger shaft
that comes in only Blood Red and Crip Blue.

[kgncoughlin]

honestly if warrior were smart they wouldn't make it 09 legal and come out with a 2.0 for 09!!!!!!!!!!!!
thts probably what they will do and it is pretty smart to make money

[laxmoney7]

the stiffi is tight, i wish it had no graphics though. How much do you guys think it will go for?

[palijim]

http://www.laxshopper.com/index.htm?equipment/mens/heads/Brine_Voyce.htm~laxmain

[italianstalion]

http://www.laxshopper.com/index.htm?equipment/mens/heads/Brine_Voyce.htm~laxmain
umm ok....what's that have to do with the stiffi?

[DJ Death]

wait, so lemme get this straight. the head does not flex when you go to shoot because of the titanium vein, right? well, when guys at the college level already shoot 100+ mph with plastic heads that do flex, that would mean they could shoot even faster with this head. wow, goalies don't stand a chance...i can see the NCAA convening and outlawing this thing after the first game it's used in.

[FPTraiderlax02]

wow dj death u made me think...

i dont really fell the head flex when i shoot, idk even if it does. but the department where the non flex will stink is catching which mean ull have to give alot with catching passes

[OwlsLax2]

wait, so lemme get this straight. the head does not flex when you go to shoot because of the titanium vein, right? well, when guys at the college level already shoot 100+ mph with plastic heads that do flex, that would mean they could shoot even faster with this head. wow, goalies don't stand a chance...i can see the NCAA convening and outlawing this thing after the first game it's used in.

wouldn't the head flexing make you shoot faster?

[slinkyspine]

wouldn't the head flexing make you shoot faster?
No.

It would take away energy since it wont elasticly snap the ball out.

[MACDADDY]

no pictures yet eh?

[italianstalion]

yea i was wondering the same thing

[wolfie8914]

No.

It would take away energy since it wont elasticly snap the ball out.

I would reconsider that thought. Take a hockey stick for example; during a slap shot, the stick flexes and then releases its energy onto the puck. The same type of thing happens with a flexable head. It snaps the ball forward, thus making it a harder shot.

[sam.karcher]

Ok this has to be a joke, notice the sexual innuendos?

How bout that head they have right now called the Snatch? Innuendo much? In production much?

[WIlax]

We already went through that earlier in the thread...The deffinition of the word Snatch is to grab quickly...and thats what goalies do...yes it has a double meaning..but the origional meaning has been around longer and makes more sense...

[Nigel_Tufnel]

I still say it's a fake.

[LHSlax42]

i dont see why you all are up in arms about the stiffi. Warrior has done this plenty of times before with sexual and drug references. Notice the head names. Mojo, Penetrator, finalizer, snatch. As well as shaft colors such as day trippin' , kind green, and krown royal. The glove names of Mac Daddy and Superfreak would fit in as well. This is just who warrior is as a company. This is how they advertise their products, and i happen to find their advertising to be quite funny. Why would you boycott a whole company because of one ad, when it is clear that this kind of advertising is their trademark

booyakasha

[Laxmatt92]

I agree, it's not that big a deal, don't like the ads?, don't look at them. I thought it was hilerous the first time I saw the ad.

[gigo567]

Okay, so my dad used to own a huge ad agency and sold it for a lot... blah...blah...blah.

Anyway, I was talking to him about the ad and he said the whole point of it was to get it stuck in the mind of the reader.

Reader reads it, is either appalled by it or amused, and then tells friends. Warrior doesn't care what you think about the ad, the whole point of it is to get people talking about it.

So everyone that hates the head and wants to boycott it because of the ad, well congrats. You did exactly what Warrior wanted you to do... talk about it.

[WIlax]

the stiffi is kinda nice, i have one (nieghbor is a patent lawyer for warrior, get free stuff before it ever comes out) i'll review it later with pics and all, but i think its kinda neat.

Well...you said by this weekend...cmon man wheres the proof? :nahya: :bull:

[italianstalion]

Okay, so my dad used to own a huge ad agency and sold it for a lot... blah...blah...blah.

Anyway, I was talking to him about the ad and he said the whole point of it was to get it stuck in the mind of the reader.

Reader reads it, is either appalled by it or amused, and then tells friends. Warrior doesn't care what you think about the ad, the whole point of it is to get people talking about it.

So everyone that hates the head and wants to boycott it because of the ad, well congrats. You did exactly what Warrior wanted you to do... talk about it.
what company was it? My grandfather used to own one too. Ferrare & Flemming it was called. I think its still around today but my grandfather sold his 50% shares i think.

[gigo567]

what company was it? My grandfather used to own one too. Ferrare & Flemming it was called. I think its still around today but my grandfather sold his 50% shares i think.
Well, it wasn't huge, like world renown, but he did ads for some big companies but he sold it for a lot.

It was called Citron Haligan Bedecarre, he sold it and it is now known as AKQA. He did some ads for Palm and some other big companies. It don't know what the other companies were because I was pretty young before he sold it.

But he is still doing some ads, like he has done some for Mondavi wine (free wine for my Bar Mitzvah) http://www.robertmondavi.com/

[DJ Death]

I would reconsider that thought. Take a hockey stick for example; during a slap shot, the stick flexes and then releases its energy onto the puck. The same type of thing happens with a flexable head. It snaps the ball forward, thus making it a harder shot.
this isn't true with a lacrosse head, though. lacrosse heads are plastic and are much more malleable than a wooden hockey stick or a hockey stick made with plastic a lot harder than the plastic used for lacrosse heads. when you go to shoot a lacrosse ball, the head bends backward and doesn't snap back immediately like a hockey stick does. it goes back to its original shape a lot slower, but still fast enough that by the time you go to look at it after you shoot, it's back in its original shape. it's not really a "snap" like a hockey stick is. it's more of a light bend.

[Orange]

I still say it's a fake.
I got the new IL, and it's in there. There's a lot more to the advertisement than is shown in this thread too. It's pretty embarrassing.

[AttackMan17]

Although, I agree the name could use some work...All of you guys saying 'Oh...Its a gimmick'...4 score and seven years ago (not really, just i mean...In the past) Plastic heads were a gimmick, mesh was a gimmick, metal shafts were a gimmick.

Who knows, every lacrosse head could have a metal frame in a few years...(Not likely, but that could be what they said when they said "every head could be plastic")

[lax@wwu21]

I got the new IL, and it's in there. There's a lot more to the advertisement than is shown in this thread too. It's pretty embarrassing.

Can you please post the rest? The earlier photos weren't too great.

[jcblair14]

the guy i coach with has one, its still a developmental version. but it does have the metal/titanium bars in the head itself. he says that its a good head, the only problem is that if you bend the head, it's even more likely to stay bent to that side, so you really have work to bend it back the other way and straighten the head out.

[WIlax]

the guy i coach with has one, its still a developmental version. but it does have the metal/titanium bars in the head itself. he says that its a good head, the only problem is that if you bend the head, it's even more likely to stay bent to that side, so you really have work to bend it back the other way and straighten the head out.

Can you get us some pictures? that would be cool..

[Lacrosse4life31]

Can you get us some pictures? that would be cool..
like i said i have one! let me get some pics up later! sorry i didn't have time to string it up this weekend! i will try and get it done soon but finals are coming and i need to STUDY STUDY STUDY STUDY!!! :crying: i will try to get them up ASAP, plus, its not the easiest head to string... its a bit.. different.... and YES it does have metal in it, im just not sure what kind of metal, as someone posted before they say it has titanium... not sure about that but whatever

[Matt Larkin]

no need to string it.

[italianstalion]

the guy i coach with has one, its still a developmental version. but it does have the metal/titanium bars in the head itself. he says that its a good head, the only problem is that if you bend the head, it's even more likely to stay bent to that side, so you really have work to bend it back the other way and straighten the head out.
people are goin to start carrying hammers in their bags to fix their bent Stiffi

[leader52]

GUYS SO YOU KNOW I MADE THIS HEADS NAME UP, CAME UP WITH THE IDEA AND EVERYTHING, DONT BELEIVE IM ME AT STIFFYX28.....AND I LOVE WARRIOR SO PPL WHO ARE BOYCOTTING THATS PRETTY STUPID. haha i didnt make the name up but its pretty sweet, cool design and such but like jcblair says, its like warped city. but honestly i love warriors stuff, that and brine i cant live without, stx i can as with harrow. i lvoe the names liek dolomite stiffi helix ..sexual innuendos yes, funny yes, but great performance yes, you cant say a dolo on a helix isnt sweet.

[shakerlax222225]

GUYS SO YOU KNOW I MADE THIS HEADS NAME UP, CAME UP WITH THE IDEA AND EVERYTHING, DONT BELEIVE IM ME AT STIFFYX28.....AND I LOVE WARRIOR SO PPL WHO ARE BOYCOTTING THATS PRETTY STUPID. haha i didnt make the name up but its pretty sweet, cool design and such but like jcblair says, its like warped city. but honestly i love warriors stuff, that and brine i cant live without, stx i can as with harrow. i lvoe the names liek dolomite stiffi helix ..sexual innuendos yes, funny yes, but great performance yes, you cant say a dolo on a helix isnt sweet.
haha, his screen name is stiffy

[shakerlax222225]

Okay, so my dad used to own a huge ad agency and sold it for a lot... blah...blah...blah.

Anyway, I was talking to him about the ad and he said the whole point of it was to get it stuck in the mind of the reader.

Reader reads it, is either appalled by it or amused, and then tells friends. Warrior doesn't care what you think about the ad, the whole point of it is to get people talking about it.

So everyone that hates the head and wants to boycott it because of the ad, well congrats. You did exactly what Warrior wanted you to do... talk about it.

my mom who used to be in advertising/ graphic design said the exact same thing. she looks at my IL's to see new advertising and design principles and she was rather amused by the ad. warriors ad has worked becuase we have this huge thread about it, free advertising! do you see us making 6 page long threads about the stx or gait ads? nope, because they are boring but provide information. Warriors as sparks the imagination and tells about advantages of the head in a creative manner

[WIlax]

like i said i have one! let me get some pics up later! sorry i didn't have time to string it up this weekend! i will try and get it done soon but finals are coming and i need to STUDY STUDY STUDY STUDY!!! :crying: i will try to get them up ASAP, plus, its not the easiest head to string... its a bit.. different.... and YES it does have metal in it, im just not sure what kind of metal, as someone posted before they say it has titanium... not sure about that but whatever

Its titanium...but you dont have to string it..just put pics up..it only takes like 5 minutes..

[JamaicanLax]

it is a good idea but the name is soooooooooooo stupid if it was made by brine or anybody but warrior it would be worth buying maybe a different name like terminator or something cool but STIFFI!?!?!? warrior is the only compaany that can ruin a great idea with 1 name and 1 add

[Lacrosse4life31]

it is a good idea but the name is soooooooooooo stupid if it was made by brine or anybody but warrior it would be worth buying maybe a different name like terminator or something cool but STIFFI!?!?!? warrior is the only compaany that can ruin a great idea with 1 name and 1 add
even so, thats not gonna stop people from buying it

[ReLaxin 13]

my mom who used to be in advertising/ graphic design said the exact same thing. she looks at my IL's to see new advertising and design principles and she was rather amused by the ad. warriors ad has worked becuase we have this huge thread about it, free advertising! do you see us making 6 page long threads about the stx or gait ads? nope, because they are boring but provide information. Warriors as sparks the imagination and tells about advantages of the head in a creative manner

Bingo .

[laxd139]

Okay, so my dad used to own a huge ad agency and sold it for a lot... blah...blah...blah.

Anyway, I was talking to him about the ad and he said the whole point of it was to get it stuck in the mind of the reader.

Reader reads it, is either appalled by it or amused, and then tells friends. Warrior doesn't care what you think about the ad, the whole point of it is to get people talking about it.

So everyone that hates the head and wants to boycott it because of the ad, well congrats. You did exactly what Warrior wanted you to do... talk about it.

I agree, read my post on pg 4

[zanderaruba]

my mom who used to be in advertising/ graphic design said the exact same thing. she looks at my IL's to see new advertising and design principles and she was rather amused by the ad. warriors ad has worked becuase we have this huge thread about it, free advertising! do you see us making 6 page long threads about the stx or gait ads? nope, because they are boring but provide information. Warriors as sparks the imagination and tells about advantages of the head in a creative manner
There we go. The people at warrior are not as stupid as you think.

[townlax]

seriously.............. I want pics...................now

[Jephman]

Townlax, go scroll down page 1.

[townlax]

Townlax, go scroll down page 1.

i want pics from the guy who said he has one

[exile lacrosse]

alright so i think that unless there is titanium in the spots where heads normally break such as the throat or the base of the head, the titanium wont do much. if it is there, then warrior may be on to something. i personally cant wait to see if this head is a flop or a huge success. should be interesting. as for their advertising, whether you agree with their style or not, it is working. it's creating buz and hype for their product and spreading the word around, which is exactly what you want to do when you are trying to market a new product.

[Hondo LAX]

can't you guys see that warrior is trying to have a little fun. They are mocking out the "natural male enhancement" ads you see on TV and in magazines everyday

[laxd139]

alright so i think that unless there is titanium in the spots where heads normally break such as the throat or the base of the head, the titanium wont do much. if it is there, then warrior may be on to something. i personally cant wait to see if this head is a flop or a huge success. should be interesting. as for their advertising, whether you agree with their style or not, it is working. it's creating buz and hype for their product and spreading the word around, which is exactly what you want to do when you are trying to market a new product.

In the ad it shows some in the throat

[In the corners]

I have to say that for some reason I have never ever liked Warrior heads(and all harrow equipment), but now I am almost positive I probably never will. This stuff is just wrong and I am going to tell my friends it will be a waist of money. I'm gonna stick with Brine and STX for a little longer.

[laxattack76]

i love how so many people hate on warrior but yet there is still a fifth page about this head. warriors advertising did its job i would say. there is a fifth page about this but there is only one page about the new gait composite shaft that is similar to a crankshaft. http://lacrosseforums.com/showthread.php?t=86601&highlight=gait+composite

i think this will be more successful than the stiffi.

[taco5]

i don't know if the titanium will be that great. don't they have another head that they're coming out with to????

[shakerlax222225]

i think warrior has carefully planned out this head so the titanium wont bend easily, weve been hearing rumors of a titanium head for years from warrior so they obviously have been working on it for quite some time

[Diesel4958]

Wow, all of you who are angry about this need to re think your stance. Why can't sexual jokes be funny? What's wrong with them? People are way too politically correct these days it is saddening. Maybe it's not the people at warrior who need to grow up, but instead the people who think "the ads have gone too far." Ready heres a really interesting and cool thing anyone can do if they wish to not support warrior, and or see the ads, don't get lacrosse magazines, and don't buy or use warrior gear! It's that simple folks, and here we had plenty of people getting bent out of shape over something that had such a simple solution. You're welcome in advance.

[DJ Death]

i saw the newer ad for this, and it actually uses the word "flaccid" in it. flaccid...i was laughing for a while from that one.

[fhelax35]

I just saw it and felt the head at the last tourney, and it is no gimmick.

[fhelax35]

in a simple way the heads gonna be a STIFFI....a little gross if you know what i mean. does anybody know how pinched it is??? or what the weight is
It is picnched like a razer pro or even more and it is preetty light.

[JazzyJake]

I just saw it and felt the head at the last tourney, and it is no gimmick.
elaborate? :clap:

[ReLaxin 13]

I just saw it and felt the head at the last tourney, and it is no gimmick.

gimmick-
1. an ingenious or novel device, scheme, or stratagem, esp. one designed to attract attention or increase appeal.

It's a gimmick.http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/gimmick

[boxpimp66]

warrior should put somethin like cures S.D. "scoring dysfunction" like a play on how viagera cures E.D. you know that would be funney

[MACDADDY]

warrior should put somethin like cures S.D. "scoring dysfunction" like a play on how viagera cures E.D. you know that would be funney
um....dont give warrior any ideas. they're probably watching us right now...
:runaway:

[mdlax5294]

i think you guys just have sick minds. the razer? yea very sexual.....

[jharsh#14key]

omg
this is a good idea
i think it wont be that heavy. Im sure alot of younger people wouldnt even understand that ad, and they would tell people about how the head has "G-zone penitration. NOT ONLY THAT
but warrior has this on alot of theyre products
look at warrior hockey.
http://warriorhockey.com
look at theyre shaft called the kronic
its sick. it says
"GRIP: Nipple grip (blue only)"
i mean come on
warrior has lowered theyre standards from my point of view.
until they get all this straightened out.

[Waps]

OK my turn (Lacrosse/Advertising/Graphic design background)

To begin with, personally I dont like most of warriors products. (but I do use some protective gear) Personal choice.

As for the advertising side of things it worked a treat, it has caused shock, discussion, interest. I love the style of the Ad, nice retro styling.

I do feel that it is inappropriate for the market. They need to consider the thousands of kids that are mad keen on lacrosse and what they are exposing them to.

[snafoo]

Inappropriate? Come on man grow up. If you've got any type of advertising background you should know that sex sells and bathroom humor will always work when your main demographic is 8-16 years old. Kids see worse things just watching tv.

[Emerican]

i'm quoting my friend on this one

he said he theres things about a new warrior shaft made entirely of latex condoms lol :roll:


to be honest i wouldn't put it past em at this point

[laxmaniac101]

warrior has gone way to far with this one little joke would be funny but they are beating a dead horse.

anyways what kind of person gets a stiffi while playing lacrosse?

[townlax]

anyways what kind of player gets a stiffi while playing lacrosse?
wtf? :WTF:

[ESPN]

there new gloves are also called "the shocker"--i think theres some inuendo there.

[helix28]

I saw the stiffi couldnt get picks but it has a huge offset and is pretty light.They were raffling it off at the millon camp. Its pretty nice but definitely not worth 140 like mark said it would be at.just wanted to let you guys know.

[tomtom]

This stupid marketing has me pissed off. Its turning lax into something....stupid and wannabe 'gangsta'. I will no longer buy any warrior products because of this. All gait, stx, and (maybe) brine from now on. A bit tough to say since the brine buyout whether I'd still buy from them.

[LKtlax]

the warrior guy at a tourny said its gonna cost alittle over 120

[Chrisblink22]

I held one at millon lax camp. Mark Millon raffled off one to some kid and made him sign a wavier that he wouldn't trade or sell it to anyone because it hasnt come out yet. It's alright but I dont like the sidewall design.