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Lacrosse4life31
05-29-2007, 07:22 PM
alrightty boys and girls!

im in need for some major clearing tips, i can heave the ball from my crease to about the 50 yard line, right where they take face offs, pretty bad if you ask me.
specs of me:
A am 5'10'' 140 pounds 15 years old, played for my High schools JV, was starting goalie, in fact i was the only goalie. our season ended and i wanted to get better during the summer. i am quite confident with my saves, but when ever i get the ball i hesitate and panic, making bad clears, i know i need to be mentally prepared for that part, but when ever i try to clear it to an open attackman, i get it to about 50 yards... pretty pathetic if you ask me. No im not what you consider a "noodle arms" kid, but i am not the strongest kid out there. I bench 125 pounds for 5x repetitions, for some that may be low, but for me that is good. My equipment is PC 6.0's CP, Nemesis on a Kpro (full length), custom mac daddy goalie gloves.
the reason i tell you this is because im not sure if its my gear effecting my form or the way i throw, most of you will probably say "we dont care" or "we didn't need to know that" but i like to make sure that all the angles are covered if you know what i mean.

The main problem is my clear as stated before. i can't throw the ball to far, for more info. i throw over hand. would throwing side arm or underhand help at all? i haven't had time to test it yet so i was wondering on any other form techniques that would help.

Thanks alot, all serious responses greatly appreciated.

OldGoalie
05-29-2007, 07:33 PM
The only gear that would really affect your clears is your stringing job. There's also another thread on clearing - check that one out.

Lacrosse4life31
05-29-2007, 07:36 PM
The only gear that would really affect your clears is your stringing job. There's also another thread on clearing - check that one out.
alright thanks, only reason i posted my gear because stuff like my CP sometimes get in the way, but i was thinking all CP's get in the way, like i said, i just posted it to make sure i could cover all the "angles"

TrapDoor
05-29-2007, 07:37 PM
^ That's pretty much it. When you throw it as far as you can does it like super-lob or does it only lob a little? Also, how much whip in in your stick?

Lacrosse4life31
05-29-2007, 07:48 PM
^ That's pretty much it. When you throw it as far as you can does it like super-lob or does it only lob a little? Also, how much whip in in your stick?

umm... it doesn't lob at all really, just kinda dies out out, no i don't rainbow my passes/clears lol. my stick has a moderate amount of whip, some people say i have alot, because i definatly don't have "no-whip" i do have some, its just factory strung hard mesh from warrior. i was thinking that was the problem but i personally think its my form maybe im not winding up far enough. my pocket isn't shallow, but it isn't deep either its about 6'' deep (i measured from where the ball sits-the deepest part of the pocket to the TOP of the sidewall of my nemmy).

and would throwing sidearm or under hand help at all?
or do you think its my pocket/whip?

thanks

TrapDoor
05-29-2007, 11:32 PM
Underhand would be a bad idea...your stick might hit the ground and it'd be hard to aim, plus the upwards+forward motion would make it lob a lot. Sidearm for me is really inaccurate. You might want to take some whip your of your stick, that always worked for me.

moondog
05-30-2007, 07:46 AM
Tinker with your pocket and hit the wall, hit the wall, hit the wall

Also, in practice, carry the ball as much as you can on clears--that will get your confidence as a ball handler up. Don't be afraid to take a few checks when drawing someone else's man to you.

But imo, being able to throw precise, consistent outlet passes supersedes having a huge pocket and not giving up rebounds. You MUST be able to get the ball to your teammates on the clear.

I was thrown in the net with virtually NO lacrosse experience when I was younger, and it took me over a year to perfect stringing a pocket that consistently passes long and well. Put some time into tinkering with your stick, and wallball is essential, including and especially for goalies.

In my opinion, the goalie should have the best stick skills on the field, like in hockey, the goalie should probably be one of the best skaters on the ice...

NALC24
05-30-2007, 07:57 AM
y dont u look for the shorter clear. instead of throwing long to the attackers give it a middie to carry the ball or if they cant as stated above carry the ball yourself in practice togain confidence and then give it to an attacker

kalata05
05-30-2007, 08:05 AM
for my clears i just lauch it down field to my open attackman

Lacrosse4life31
05-30-2007, 02:28 PM
y dont u look for the shorter clear. instead of throwing long to the attackers give it a middie to carry the ball or if they cant as stated above carry the ball yourself in practice togain confidence and then give it to an attacker
sometimes my defensemen havn't gotten open yet and the opposing team attackmen are still crowding my crease i know i can run behind the net and i do it on almost every clear, just a few times attackmen would double team me... lol
i know what you are trying to say, and your right in fact most of the time i give it to a defender, BUT i just want to be able to heave it down just in case, not that im gonna use it all the time, i just WANT to be ABLE to use it...

EHSLAX12
05-30-2007, 02:47 PM
since your 5' 10'' and a decent size i dont figure you have a problem with the full shaft. wht you could do is get an aluminum shaft or some crappy one that you dont mind destroying and cut an inch off of it and try throwing. and you can keep cutting it down if it feels good, but dont bother if you dont see a difference in the beginning. stringjobs also affect clearing. post your stick, well tell you what we can.

Lacrosse4life31
05-30-2007, 04:04 PM
since your 5' 10'' and a decent size i dont figure you have a problem with the full shaft. wht you could do is get an aluminum shaft or some crappy one that you dont mind destroying and cut an inch off of it and try throwing. and you can keep cutting it down if it feels good, but dont bother if you dont see a difference in the beginning. stringjobs also affect clearing. post your stick, well tell you what we can.
okay well this is my first time posting pics but:
http://community.webshots.com/album/559247033nqZNxN

EHSLAX12
05-30-2007, 04:46 PM
that looks pretty solid. well, then i just guess its your form. but something to try to maybe change the release of the ball is try rolling 3 straight shooters and 1 nylon at the top instead of the 2 weaved setup you have. the rolled shooters lets the ball off differently then a weaded shooter.

if you have aim, im me there, i can help you out. its just easier. panamadax3.

Lacrosse4life31
05-30-2007, 04:48 PM
that looks pretty solid. well, then i just guess its your form. but something to try to maybe change the release of the ball is try rolling 3 straight shooters and 1 nylon at the top instead of the 2 weaved setup you have. the rolled shooters lets the ball off differently then a weaded shooter.

okay thanks for all the help dude! seems like your the only one active in goalie forums..
i'll try that out!

juskellaxin
06-01-2007, 01:56 PM
ok here's and easy break down. Talk to a coach and have him install a clear paly. because it sucks to try to find a random person in mayhem. You need to know where to look and be prepared to go another direction if that man is covered. work that out with your poles. as for your form, throw overhand, but make sure its comfortable for you, and an easily repeated motion. then tweak the head of your stick so it compliments your throwing style.

jtanenbaum
06-01-2007, 07:13 PM
yo try moving ur hands closer together when u clear it will be weird but the extra 4 inches your top hand gets moved down can legit help u our by tens of yards

blonyxpony
06-02-2007, 04:51 PM
i personally use the sidearm throw, just because it throws a little farther, though at times it is unaccuratte...if possible though try going to some goalie camps this year that have some pros there. me and my freinds are going to the mark millon camp in ohio...its kinda pricey but they teach you a ton of stuff.

goalie4JESUS
06-05-2007, 05:23 PM
half field is pretty good its not BAD at all and your stringing job could easily effect your distance and hieght on the ball. ........try camps and clinics if your not satisfied with your clears

thekeep4
06-11-2007, 02:18 PM
can't throw past the mid line any tips on throwing farther?

mrmccool
06-11-2007, 02:24 PM
aim up, get a smoothly releasing string job

thekeep4
06-11-2007, 02:24 PM
i know that i am any techniuge?

thekeep4
06-11-2007, 02:25 PM
thanks i'll try it

wwhlax00
06-11-2007, 02:26 PM
try to get in the best shape you can.

Lacrosse4life31
06-11-2007, 02:26 PM
also, use the search button i made a thread like this awhile ago... the thread is called "i need some tips!" has alot of stuff on how to get it better.

LiquidMercury16
06-11-2007, 02:54 PM
more stick speed, release a tad bit earlier to get some more loft

bmxinspired
06-11-2007, 02:57 PM
hit the weightroom

thekeep4
06-11-2007, 03:57 PM
strength. i'm 11 and i can throw farther

Lacrosse4life31
06-11-2007, 04:08 PM
hit the weightroom

i already bench 140.... i can almost bench my weight, i don't think its strength