RNC

[roughrider]

I heard a great quote from the RNC today. "Kerry keeps talking about raising taxes for the rich. But that doesnt hurt the rich-but...but it hurts the poor who someday hope to get rich. It doesnt hurt Bill Gates. It hurts the poor who are hoping to be rich" How does that make sense? I guess the republican economic record doesnt make any sense either.

[roughrider]

Another good thing I heard in Crossfire or one of those shows. Bush is the only presidnet to have cut taxes while at war and the only president to never have vetoed a single spending bill.

[Thrillhouse]

Are you going to give us a source on your quotes?

Oh wait, I'm sorry. I forgot you don't like using facts because they never support your arguements.
(I assume you'll be changing the subject now?)

[FredtheCat]

People say Kerry flip-flops, yet Bush can't decide on whether or not he can win this "war on terror"... And then the Republicans try to deny that he ever said such a thing. :wtf :laugh

[TheKOB]

You obviously don't get what he was saying. Basically, it's not a traditional war where you know who your opponent is. The only way we'll win the war on terror is to kill the terrorists.

It's great that Kerry thinks he can do it....but that just shows how ignorent he is of the whole issue and who he's fighting against.

[Thrillhouse]

Originally posted by FredtheCat
People say Kerry flip-flops, yet Bush can't decide on whether or not he can win this "war on terror"... And then the Republicans try to deny that he ever said such a thing. :wtf :laugh

I've been waiting for this one…
This war is like nothing we ever fought before, and if they actually read the interview, they would know what he meant.
Nonetheless, define what winning the war on terror would be? How do we know when we won? Are the terrorists going to surrender? Will we sign a peace treaty with them? How do we know that the terrorist will never try to kill us again?

-side note, did you get the g-mail invite I sent to you?

[FredtheCat]

Originally posted by Thrillhouse
I've been waiting for this one…
This war is like nothing we ever fought before, and if they actually read the interview, they would know what he meant.
Nonetheless, define what winning the war on terror would be? How do we know when we won? Are the terrorists going to surrender? Will we sign a peace treaty with them? How do we know that the terrorist will never try to kill us again?

-side note, did you get the g-mail invite I sent to you?

That's the thing, it's pointless to say that we can win the war on terror, because in reality it can never be won. I just thought it was funny that one day Bush says we can't win the war, and the next day he comes out and says that we can. Also, I was watching an interview on ABC a few days ago, I think it was on World News Tonight with Peter Jennings, and the guy being interviewed said something like "I don't believe that President Bush ever said that the war on terror cannot be won", and then they played the clip of him saying it.
:laugh

And yes, I got the gmail invite, thanks! :agree

[Thrillhouse]

That's the thing that frustrated me. He was trying to explain how this isn’t a war that you can win like a conventional war, and Kerry’s campaign turned it around on him, which is understandable because they had a pretty bad month and are grasping at straws right now. I wish Bush would have stuck to his guns on the statement, but I understand it’s hard to campaign for president saying we can’t win this war in the conventional sense.

[timmy]

Where do these super Democrats find the time to protest every GOP event? Yes, there were protest at the DNC, but not a quarter million before it even started. Do these people have jobs or lives?

[roughrider]

Originally posted by Thrillhouse
Are you going to give us a source on your quotes?

Oh wait, I'm sorry. I forgot you don't like using facts because they never support your arguements.
(I assume you'll be changing the subject now?)

I saw it last night around 12 pt on your beacon of all thats good and pure-FOX News. THe Other ones were from LAte NIght or something on MSNCB

[Thrillhouse]

Originally posted by roughrider
I saw it last night around 12 pt on your beacon of all thats good and pure-FOX News. THe Other ones were from LAte NIght or something on MSNCB

Who said it? Just some guy on the street or an actual policy maker/spokesman for the Bush campaign/RNC?

[TheKOB]

Originally posted by timmy
Where do these super Democrats find the time to protest every GOP event? Yes, there were protest at the DNC, but not a quarter million before it even started. Do these people have jobs or lives?

The reason there wasn't anyone protesting the DNC is because the Republicans have JOBS!

[Dan]

I like this protest. It's going to make the moderates think that democratic party is a bunch of idiots. THANK YOU, PROTESTORS! YOU'RE WINNING VOTES FOR BUSH! YESSSS!

[LaxGoalieLZ]

If anyone thinks they can completely stop terrorism than they are the most ignorant person ever. You cant stop terrorism it is too hard, there too many of them to stop. You never know where or when they will attack because we dont have too many ways of finding out. It is like trying to stop the viet cong in nam it is impossible. No one can stop terrorism completely but a person can lower the rate of terrorist attacks.

[GeorgiaMiddie2]

no, people are just more passionate about getting bush out of office than they are about keeping him in office.

[Dan]

But it sure ain't helping getting Kerry in, that's for sure. What would you think if you saw republicans protesting like that? I know I'd think that they should stop, because it's hurting themselves.

[roughrider]

Well, you never know. The protests have certainly taken away publicity from the RNC so i think itll help our cause.

[Sir Lax]

Originally posted by timmy
Where do these super Democrats find the time to protest every GOP event? Yes, there were protest at the DNC, but not a quarter million before it even started. Do these people have jobs or lives?

I'm sure they have jobs, but with their persistant absences from work, they will probably get fired and then they will blame Bush for their unemployment status. :laugh

[GeorgiaMiddie2]

Originally posted by timmy
Where do these super Democrats find the time to protest every GOP event? Yes, there were protest at the DNC, but not a quarter million before it even started. Do these people have jobs or lives?

uh oh... they have to take 2 or 3 days off work... and no one ever gives their employees 2 or 3 days of non-holiday vacation...

[liveforlax19]

i dont think people are looking at it as getting kerry into office, they are looking at it as getting bush out of office....

and did anyone notice that michael moore was at the convention? USA Today sent him in as their reporter... is that not the most bias reporter EVER?!

[roughrider]

precisely. this isnt kerry's election to win, but bush's to lose.

[spenny]

Originally posted by timmy
Where do these super Democrats find the time to protest every GOP event? Yes, there were protest at the DNC, but not a quarter million before it even started. Do these people have jobs or lives?

i was in NYC, at the convention. if there were 250,000 protesters there, i'm a 4 time first team all american.

[liveforlax19]

i say SCREW KETCHUP, GO BUSH!

[roughrider]

haha well i say screw the texas rangers and GO KERRY!

[timmy]

Originally posted by spenny
i was in NYC, at the convention. if there were 250,000 protesters there, i'm a 4 time first team all american.

I'm missing your point. You're a four time all american, congrats. So what's that have to do with you at the convention? I went to the DNC and just walked around the city.

[roughrider]

are you serious you don tunderstand? he was saying that there wasnt 250,000 people there. its make believe, like him being a 4 time all american

[TheKOB]

I think the real number was something like 140,000. You can't really trust the numbers given by the protesters...remember the million man march?

I heard something that said that all the different messages would get muddled out, and actually hurt the protests...especially when you've got a mainstream issue like abortion rights mixed in with anarchists.... Makes sense. Thoughts?

[timmy]

Originally posted by roughrider
are you serious you don tunderstand? he was saying that there wasnt 250,000 people there. its make believe, like him being a 4 time all american

Ohhhh, I feel stupid. I guess I wasn't paying attention again.

[BTlaxripper]

Originally posted by raine
I like this protest. It's going to make the moderates think that democratic party is a bunch of idiots. THANK YOU, PROTESTORS! YOU'RE WINNING VOTES FOR BUSH! YESSSS!

exactly raine!

I'm expecting at least a 10 point jump for bush after the RNC.

and Kerry's rebuttal of the convention?
Total act of desperation: first, the VP does the dirty work on campaigning (bashing)l second, too soon after the convention

[HdGLaxWarrior]

I think the RNC was a huge success. I cant wait to see the current polls!

Why would you send Moore in as a reporter? I like how he got booed!

And I kind of liked the USA TODAY!! :concerned

[Sir Lax]

According to the poll conducted by Time Magazine, Bush advanced his lead:
http://www.time.com/time/press_releases/article/0,8599,692562,00.html

Campaign 2004: Bush Opens Double-Digit Lead
TIME Poll: Among likely voters, 52% would vote for President George Bush, while 41% would vote for John Kerry and 3% would vote for Ralph Nader

Friday, Sep. 03, 2004
New York: For the first time since the Presidential race became a two person contest last spring, there is a clear leader, the latest TIME poll shows. If the 2004 election for President were held today, 52% of likely voters surveyed would vote for President George W. Bush, 41% would vote for Democratic nominee John Kerry, and 3% would vote for Ralph Nader, according to a new TIME poll conducted from Aug. 31 to Sept. 2. Poll results are available on TIME.com and will appear in the upcoming issue of TIME magazine, on newsstands Monday, Sept. 6.

Most important issues: When asked what they consider are the most important issues, 25% of registered voters cited the economy as the top issue, followed by 24% who cited the war on terrorism as the top issue. The situation in Iraq was rated the top issue by 17% of registered voters, moral values issues such as gay marriage and abortion were the top issue for 16% of respondents, and health care was the most important issue for 11% of respondents.

Bush vs. Kerry:
The economy: 47% trust President Bush more to handle the economy, while 45% trust Kerry.
Health care: 48% trust Senator Kerry to handle health care issues, while 42% trust Bush.
Iraq: 53% trust Bush to handle the situation in Iraq, while 41% trust Kerry.
Terrorism: 57% trust Bush to handle the war on terrorism, while 36% trust Kerry.
Understanding the needs of people: 47% said they trust Kerry to understand the needs of people like themselves, while 44% trusted Bush to understand their needs.
Providing strong leadership: 56% said they trust Bush to provide strong leadership in difficult times, while 37% said they trust Kerry to provide leadership in difficult times.
Tax policy: 49% trust Bush to handle tax policy, while 40% trust Kerry.
Commanding the Armed Forces: 54% said they trust Bush to be commander-in-chief of the armed forces, while 39% said they trust Kerry.

Bush on the Issues:
Iraq: Half (50%) of those surveyed approve of the way President Bush is handling the situation in Iraq, while 46% disapprove. In last week’s TIME poll, 48% approved of the way Bush was handling the situation in Iraq and 48% disapproved.
Terrorism: Almost two thirds (59%) said they approve of how President Bush is handling the war on terrorism, while 38% disapprove. Last week’s TIME poll found 55% approved of Bush’s handling of the war on terrorism, while 40% disapproved.
The Economy: Survey respondents were split on the President’s handling of the economy. Almost half (48%) said the approved of Bush’s handling of the economy, while 48% said the disapproved.

Other results include:
Was U.S. Right Going to War with Iraq? Over half of those surveyed (52%) think the U.S. was right in going to war with Iraq, while 41% think the U.S. was wrong to go to war.

Have the United States’ actions in Iraq made the world safer? Almost half (45%) think the United States’ actions in Iraq have made the world safer, while 45% think the world is more dangerous. In a similar TIME poll taken Aug. 3 – 5, over half (52%) said the world was more dangerous, and 38% said the world was safer.

[roughrider]

If Bush wins, I am suceeding(sp?) from the union! no way is that man going to be my president for 4 more years.

[Longest]

If Bush wins, I am suceeding(sp?) from the union! no way is that man going to be my president for 4 more years.

Seceding. And my advice is go! If you dislike him that much, leave! This sounds like idle pablum, same as the Baldwins and everyone else who threatened that, then reneged.

Dan

[Mark]

I like this protest. It's going to make the moderates think that democratic party is a bunch of idiots. THANK YOU, PROTESTORS! YOU'RE WINNING VOTES FOR BUSH! YESSSS!

Ditto ! If the morons only knew how they appear to normal Americans.

[Mark]

I heard a great quote from the RNC today. "Kerry keeps talking about raising taxes for the rich. But that doesnt hurt the rich-but...but it hurts the poor who someday hope to get rich. It doesnt hurt Bill Gates. It hurts the poor who are hoping to be rich" How does that make sense? I guess the republican economic record doesnt make any sense either.

There isn't a RNC spokeman that would speak like that. Rich people are required to keep the economy strong. Jobs are created when someone is getting rich. IE...I start a business. My business is rocking and making me tons of money. I hire 3 men to do the job I used to do. I get rich and 3 men are gainfully employed.

Young people have so much to learn. :doh

[BTlaxripper]

heh, my dad used to be an economics professor, so I know a little bit more than I should.

Anybody catch Zell Millers' speech?
amazing

[Mark]

If Bush wins, I am suceeding(sp?) from the union! no way is that man going to be my president for 4 more years.

:dummy Better start packing. With talk like that, this Country doesn't need you.

[roughrider]

heh, my dad used to be an economics professor, so I know a little bit more than I should.

Anybody catch Zell Millers' speech?
amazing

zell miller is insane. i thought he was going to start foaming at the mouth. his speach had no real depth, just threw out the raw meat that people love. can the democratic party kick him out? and if they can, why havnt they yet?

[roughrider]

:dummy Better start packing. With talk like that, this Country doesn't need you.

Start packing? no no mark, im taking over my neighborhood-hawthorne hills will soon be ruled by dictator roughrider! MUAHAHAHA

[BTlaxripper]

you just don't like Zell Miller because he's a democrat who supports Bush, so of course you knock him.
It's obvious

[Biffman49]

There are more reasons to dislike Zell Miller other than that he's a democrat who supports Bush, which doesn't even bother me. I think that too many people vote based on party lines alone and that it's good for someone to make up their own mind instead of just voting on their party. However, Zell Miller is one crazy man. I mean insane. Did you see when he challened Chris Matthews to a duel? That was excellent.

[BTlaxripper]

Zell Miller is a man who is sick of all the liberal lies.
He is angry at people like you and the left wing media.
He is sick of a decentralizing Democrat party and a decentralizing America.
He is tired of the new "cool-to-hate-bush" trend
He is angry at you.

[Dan]

I love the last comment. He is angry at you. I haven't ever heard of the guy. But why is he crazy? Because he's different?

[Biffman49]

He's not crazy because he's different. He's crazy because he LITERALLY challenged Chris Matthews to a duel. Not a duel of words, but a duel involving guns. That's nuts.

[anjang86]

Raine Miller and Dean are both on the same category of being nuts... but good try there trying to back some of us in a corner with that 'why is he crazy' thing...

You guys need to stop acting like the Democrats are the only biased people.

[Dan]

No, it was a genuine question. I have no idea why people think he's nuts. But whatever. Dean is crazy, and maybe Miller is too. Biffman49, I challenge thee to a duel.

[BTlaxripper]

Raine Miller and Dean are both on the same category of being nuts... but good try there trying to back some of us in a corner with that 'why is he crazy' thing...

You guys need to stop acting like the Democrats are the only biased people.

I know republicans are biased too.
Everyone is biased, it's just the nature of humans.

But what pisses me off is there are more conservatives in this country and yet liberals rule the media :cussing :devil

[Longest]

That horse has already been adequately flogged on this forum. Let sleeping dogs lie.

Dan