how do you wind up?

[deFT]

how do players do a little wind up movement before shooting? the stick isnt still and it's kind of like a small cradle if anyone knows what im talking about >.>

I tried to mimic it from watching videos but the ball fall outs

[OmenPigeon]

http://www.insidelacrosse.com/page.cfm?pagerid=2&news=fdetail&storyid=72080
Maki sent this out allitle while back and there is a section on that in the article.

[XLaxClipper]

Cranking I think you mean. If you know how to cradle vertically with your hands at the bottom of the stick and one at around the middle, then you should be able to do this. Just lower the hand and you have to give a little more wrist snap. You really just have to practice it. It'll come the same way cradling did.

[deFT]

Cranking I think you mean. If you know how to cradle vertically with your hands at the bottom of the stick and one at around the middle, then you should be able to do this. Just lower the hand and you have to give a little more wrist snap. You really just have to practice it. It'll come the same way cradling did.
cranking sounds right...thanks

is my bottom hand doing most of the wrist snaps? or my upper hand

[jacedwards78]

i dunno really how to say how to crank, it just naturally came through practice. whenever i shoot i dont even think about keeping the ball in my stick it just does.

[Carmelhounds32]

Cranking for me came naturally. I never practiced it or anything. I just kind of did the same thing every time i had a time and space shot. I don't know if thats just me but I guess it might be different for different people.

[XLaxClipper]

cranking sounds right...thanks

is my bottom hand doing most of the wrist snaps? or my upper hand
With any kind of cradle your top hand (right if your righty, and left if your lefty.) The bottom hand is just there to keep your stick under control.

And yeh, cranking just came naturally.

[deFT]

http://www.insidelacrosse.com/page.cfm?pagerid=2&news=fdetail&storyid=72080
Maki sent this out allitle while back and there is a section on that in the article.
i read the article and i didnt really find the part about the cranking

[manup5183]

All that is needed on a windup is your head going back with out the ball shooting behind you. To do this I do a very small half cradle while brining my stick back to keep the ball pushed into the pocket. once it is behind you, you shouldnt have to cradle, just shoot. Your coaches will be much happier.

[the next 'one']

It's hard to understand from a written explanation, so I made a video. Here's how I wind up:

http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa89/LaxHandle/th_MyGreatMovie1.jpg (http://s196.photobucket.com/albums/aa89/LaxHandle/?action=view&current=MyGreatMovie1.flv)

It may or may not be the best/a good way, but it works for me.

i must say...that's a huge windup. it looks like it might be slowing your shot down a little bit.

[the next 'one']

How would you suggest altering it? I used to take a while longer, so I guess it's no wonder my coach would scream at me.

well first of all, you literally swing the stick in a circle. i would really try to work on not letting your stick get below your waist on the windup. try to make the windup as quick as possible. think about if you had a wide open shot in a game, and you wound up the way you do. you would get leveled before you even got the shot off. just work on making the windup much smaller and quicker, it will help.

[deFT]

LaxHandle thanks alot for the video

[MACDADDY]

It's hard to understand from a written explanation, so I made a video. Here's how I wind up:

http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa89/LaxHandle/th_MyGreatMovie1.jpg (http://s196.photobucket.com/albums/aa89/LaxHandle/?action=view&current=MyGreatMovie1.flv)

It may or may not be the best/a good way, but it works for me.
that huge windup doesn't look like its helping you in shot speed...
you have to get the shot off ALOT quicker. my friend does this HUGE windup and in our last game, the only reason he scored was because no defender was on him, and it was 10 yards away from the goal. i would also work more on shooting on the run. it seems you like to shoot in a single spot.

[MaKiMaKi13]

christ laxhandle that is a long windup, whip shooter eh?? or going for a lil jake byrne action

i suggest you get a buddy and have him practice feeding you either by your ear or behind your head, hip area wherever you like to catch it then have your hands about 12 inches apart catch cradle once shoot maybe even cut out the cradle

[MaKiMaKi13]

"During the wind-up the player extends his front elbow. While shooting, the elbow leads the hands and arms over the top. Finally, in the follow-through, the elbow guides the body toward its target. We have already discussed players' reluctance to extend the front arm as part of the wind-up. The lead arm should have as little bend as possible when the arms are extended. "

"As the player actually shoots, he brings his elbow over the top. This can be tricky. The wind-up is a sidearm motion but the stick does not come forward along the same path. We want the shaft to come straight overhand. The front elbow leads the shot by pulling forward. A player's elbow should bend as he pulls it upwards toward his target. A terrific analogy is to think of the bend in the elbow as the crosshairs of a rifle. For a moment, the player sights up the cage using his front elbow. He should be able to see the cage over the "V" of his bent arm. A straight line is formed between the shooter's eyes, his elbow and the goal. This technique is awesome. First, it keeps the front elbow high. This is important because the shooter will need to throw it down as he shoots. Second, this will add accuracy, as the target is clear in the player's mind. Finally, it guarantees a straight overhand motion. Players can still shoot sidearm with the elbow high, but it is awkward. Typically, the worst a player can manage is a three-quarters motion. "

thats from the article i posted and if you really need a video ill make one

[WAHOOWA_LAX]

A shot is just a hard pass, learn how to pass and snap the wrists. And then everything else about shootings should become more clear after you learn how to throw the ball properly.

[MACDADDY]

A shot is just a hard pass, learn how to pass and snap the wrists. And then everything else about shootings should become more clear after you learn how to throw the ball properly.
um...when you pass, you dont wind up with your stick behind your head and your back to the goal.

[RandolphAttack2]

Is this an OK wind-up?

I used to twirl, but to get out of that habit I am trying this half-cradle. My wrists move in a circle, pretty much moving the head too. The head moves about, from lowest point to highest point, one foot. The head starts out facing in front of me, then facing the side of my head, and then back to facing out in front of me, and then I take my shot.

[deFT]

thats from the article i posted and if you really need a video ill make one
a video would be much appreciated :)

[N8dawg19]

the point of a wind up is to get ur arms away from ur body if ur cranking so u get more leverage

[Chronicles]

laxhandle you gotta torque those hips if u want power out of ur shot from what im seeing ur using all arms and very little leg power. If you guys wanna see what the wind up looks like go to the inside lacrosse player and watch the highlight of tim donovan or go to the tutorial and watch mark million.

[MaKiMaKi13]

a video would be much appreciated :)
http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa17/PsYcHoNoVa13/th_M4V20002.jpg (http://s199.photobucket.com/albums/aa17/PsYcHoNoVa13/?action=view&current=M4V20002.flv)
alright heres the vid never used photobucket before so i hope it works , you guys can critique it aswell i pretyy much cut out everything except for the wind up hope it helps

[GlaxR]

maki arent your elbows a little bit low on your video?

[Thomson#1]

Maki - your top hand looks really low, maybe it's just because your wearing gloves though.

[laxman37]

Yeah, Maki, it looks like you're hands are a little low, and that you need to extend your left one a little more. You pin it a little close to your ribs.

[faceofflax15]

Your hands can be as low as you want. The lower your hands are, the most power you are going to get because you are increasing the lever, which extends the fulcrum, making the physics of the shot, faster. But by putting your hands lower, you lose some control, so if he can shoot with accuracy from his hands that low, why not? It just means a faster shot.

But he does need to get his hands up and away from his body.

[samuellee]

yeah it just looks like you're swinging the stick.
move your top hand a tad higher.
also move your front elbow higher

[EHSLAX12]

i cant believe im going to use this reference, but its somewhat like a slapshot windup or golf shot. you have to keep your elbows away from your body and your arms generaly straight and wrists firm. and then its just a fluid motion.