Frosh

[laxkathl18]

I just found out that I bombed one of my finals as a freshman in high school(I wasnt feeling well that day). Do colleges look or care about freshman grades at all (in particular princeton)?

[Farny]

Every single grade in high school counts. With that being said, I don't think it's going to kill you. I think they look more at overall GPA.

But also, you supposedly have to be godlike to get into Princeton. I was talking to a teacher about making it in there, and he said it's possible. He said I should bring up my AP Euro grade, though, which was in the B range. I don't think me ending with a B+ in an AP class will kill me, especially since that's still a 4.33 on your weighted GPA.

So I think you'll be alright. Does your report card tell you your "Final" grade. Not the Final Exam grade, but the grade you got by averaging all your quarter grades?

[truth]

9th grade is huge. Its all over by your senior year. Ideally you get accepted somewhere in the Fall of your senior year. Get bad grades in 9th grade and its hard to bring up your GPA.

[LiquidMercury16]

freshman classes are easiest, so do the best in them that way you can coast for the rest of highschool haha. But seriously most people are accepted by fall of senior year so fresh-junior year are pretty important. One not more than the other considering they all effect your GPA equally.

[lilaxgurl23]

freshman classes are easiest, so do the best in them that way you can coast for the rest of highschool haha. But seriously most people are accepted by fall of senior year so fresh-junior year are pretty important. One not more than the other considering they all effect your GPA equally.

Mm, I have to disagree on this one. One of the most important years by far is your junior year. All I remember from looking at colleges and going through the recruiting process was how much I was asked about junior year. It's important, I'd say much more imporatant than any other year.

Also, bombing a frosh final won't kill you, however I would hope you had the grades throughout the year to help lift it up. Colleges like to see improvement over the years as well as you get adjusted to high school life. Don't forget that there's many things factoring in to acceptance. One poor class won't kill it. You have all your other classes for your overall GPA, the kind of classes you took, your SAT/ACT, extracurricular activites and all of that good stuff. If you're seriously looking at Princeton though, you're going to need top grades and be excel in pretty much everything else you do. Princeton is no easy school to get into...

[sjp lax]

I know a lot of people on the college admission boards..heres what they think: they look at the soph and frosh GPA combined. They analyze junior year VERY closely (quarter by quarter). And senior year first quarter matters a bit but more so just to make sure you dont slack off. Im not saying that frosh and soph year doesnt matter, but what colleges really look for is improving your GPA. So idealy the best would be frosh = 2.5 soph = 2.9 junior = 3.2 . .... if a college sees that they will take you ovver someone else who has a 3.2 all around.

[truth]

I know a lot of people on the college admission boards..heres what they think: they look at the soph and frosh GPA combined. They analyze junior year VERY closely (quarter by quarter). And senior year first quarter matters a bit but more so just to make sure you dont slack off. Im not saying that frosh and soph year doesnt matter, but what colleges really look for is improving your GPA. So idealy the best would be frosh = 2.5 soph = 2.9 junior = 3.2 . .... if a college sees that they will take you ovver someone else who has a 3.2 all around.


One problem with that, when a player is a junior and e-mailing a coach, and the
coach asks what the gpa is, and the reply is 2.7, the coach may move on to
dozens of other players who are just as good, but are already at 3.2++.

The admission board may never even see this players application because the coach has ruled them out due to grades.

[lslaxer]

Im not saying that frosh and soph year doesnt matter, but what colleges really look for is improving your GPA. So idealy the best would be frosh = 2.5 soph = 2.9 junior = 3.2 . .... if a college sees that they will take you ovver someone else who has a 3.2 all around.
Haha, that may be true that an improving GPA is good, and better than a lower gpa, but they would not take the first person over the second. Also, there woudl obviously be many other factors in play.

I would say that freshman year grades matter the least of any year, but still do matter. However, there are some schools that do not factor freshman grades (USC I believe is one) but they are not common. Princeton is a very tough school to get into, work hard in all areas, not just academics and lacrosse, and you might just have a chance.

[LiquidMercury16]

Mm, I have to disagree on this one. One of the most important years by far is your junior year. All I remember from looking at colleges and going through the recruiting process was how much I was asked about junior year. It's important, I'd say much more imporatant than any other year.

Also, bombing a frosh final won't kill you, however I would hope you had the grades throughout the year to help lift it up. Colleges like to see improvement over the years as well as you get adjusted to high school life. Don't forget that there's many things factoring in to acceptance. One poor class won't kill it. You have all your other classes for your overall GPA, the kind of classes you took, your SAT/ACT, extracurricular activites and all of that good stuff. If you're seriously looking at Princeton though, you're going to need top grades and be excel in pretty much everything else you do. Princeton is no easy school to get into...

Junior year is important for sure, mainly because you can take a full load of AP classes and colleges like to see how you do in those. Is what I'm saying is that a class is a class and in total each class has the same effect on final gpa as another. I got into princeton/dartmouth/yale and it definitely requires alot. Have extracurriculars and be a stud in lax. If you rock out in lax, the coach can help sway admissions to get you in. You still have to have the grades but it can help to be a recruited athelete. If you know that is exactly where you want to go you can always do early acceptance.

[LAXatm]

9th grade is huge. Its all over by your senior year. Ideally you get accepted somewhere in the Fall of your senior year. Get bad grades in 9th grade and its hard to bring up your GPA.

9th grade isn't that important my brother had a 3.0 and now he is going to Yale. Granted he had a 4.6 in his Junior year but he was told that Freshmen grades do not matter that much

[laxgirl0108]

okay so do all highschools do a combined gpa for all four years? because i thought that at some schools it was separated year by year or some other way? and also at the surrounding highschools where i live freshman year really does not matter grade wise, sophomore year matters a little more, junior year is HUGE, and senior first quarter is pretty important

[laxgirl0108]

Also I have a question-if you have A's and B's in challenging classes and good SAT scores/GPA but do not make varsity junior year because of spots/positions/etc but have solid club team exposure/experience, do you think playing d1 is a lot less likely? im hoping i wont run into that situation, but i was just curious

[sjp lax]

okay dont worry about your GPA...honestly...I kno some of the public schools in the area and it an absolute joke. I go to a hard school and our normal classes are the same difficulty as other schools AP classes. colleges will look A LOT into where you go to school. I am a C/C+ student at my school and I would have over a 4.0 at all of the public schools around here. So basically, leave the numbers out of your head (to some extent) and simply work as hard as you can and the grades will follow.

[LiquidMercury16]

No, that would be retarded to not worry about your gpa. Because if someone from your same school is applying to the school you want to go to and they have a higher GPA than you chances are they will get in. Also not all public schools are bad. The school I graduated from was considered one of the top 150 schools in the nation and it was public. Kind of reverse in our school system where alot of private schools were considered a joke and they were having to pay for their education heh. But yah I guarantee you that a C/C+ is not going to get you into princeton, no matter where you go.

[ShockerAutc]

Especially considering that colleges are probably not going to know your schools reputation. And even if they do, it's hearsay, not something you can qualify. In Princeton's case, their website says they do not have minimum standards for gpa, class rank and test scores. But it also says they use all of those things to gage the applicant's course rigor. It goes on to say they look at the whole person and sue anything they can to see an applicants achievements. So in short, you wont get in on a schools rep. But having perfect grades are not a guarantee either, since they say they like having a diverse campus. It also says they place value on taking AP classes. I have a friend who is going to Princeton, and I know he had a perfect 4.0 and was a national merit scholar. As well as having legacy and being a valedictorian. The best thing you can do is to work hard in school while becoming awesome at lacrosse. Though when it comes down to a choice of going to the field, or the library, head to the library, as they wont be desperate for talent. Basically, don't give them any reason to not accept you. If you can do all that, you shouldn't be rejected because of what happened your freshmen year, but it isn't a guarantee you wont be either. But don't dwell on it, it already happened.

[lslaxer]

[QUOTE=ShockerAutc]Especially considering that colleges are probably not going to know your schools reputation. And even if they do, it's hearsay, not something you can qualify. In Princeton's case, their website says they do not have minimum standards for gpa, class rank and test scores. [QUOTE]
The actual GPA number is not what they look at as much as your rank. They know that GPA will vary from school to school, and that a 3.6 at one shcool might be equal as a 3.9 at another.

[Dizzle]

im a freshman goin into soph year next year and transferring to a new hs, its still in town but now its a prep school. do colelges still keep track of my frosh eyar even if i transferred?

[lslaxer]

im a freshman goin into soph year next year and transferring to a new hs, its still in town but now its a prep school. do colelges still keep track of my frosh eyar even if i transferred?
Yeah, why wouldn't they?

[ShockerAutc]

The actual GPA number is not what they look at as much as your rank. They know that GPA will vary from school to school, and that a 3.6 at one shcool might be equal as a 3.9 at another.

Very true, forgot that in my post. Point still the same though, you don't want to slack off but convicne yourself that your schools "known rep" will help you. All the colleges will know is that, if they have a b standard, one student didn't get it, and one did. A girl in my newspaper class said she had a 2.5 gpa coming into her senior yr. She had just transfered from a private catholic school in Santa Clara which she said was one of the hardest in california. She got a 4.0 first semester and said she put in the same effort that she did at her old school, unfortunatley, all colleges know is that she had a 2.5 gpa through 3 yrs of HS.

[kevidinho]

Every single grade in high school counts. With that being said, I don't think it's going to kill you. I think they look more at overall GPA.

But also, you supposedly have to be godlike to get into Princeton. I was talking to a teacher about making it in there, and he said it's possible. He said I should bring up my AP Euro grade, though, which was in the B range. I don't think me ending with a B+ in an AP class will kill me, especially since that's still a 4.33 on your weighted GPA.

So I think you'll be alright. Does your report card tell you your "Final" grade. Not the Final Exam grade, but the grade you got by averaging all your quarter grades?
Not true. Michigan doesn't even look at your freshman year. I am not sure about other colleges, but that is the only college I have ever visited for the reason of seeing if I would want to go there.