Shot Critique Megathread [Archive]

MaKiMaKi13

06-15-2007, 06:08 PM

for those of you looking to get tips on how to get a faster shot proper form post your videos and we'll try to help you out as best we can but also make sure to read this

http://www.insidelacrosse.com/page.cfm?pagerid=2&news=fdetail&storyid=72080

laxmiddie11

06-15-2007, 06:27 PM

and make sure to read this
http://www.lacrosseforums.com/showthread.php?t=58328

MaKiMaKi13

06-16-2007, 02:38 PM

well since i started this thread might aswell post my own vid to get some C & C

didnt really get the tennis courts in the picture but i dont think that really matters form is what im going for

destructivelax

06-16-2007, 02:39 PM

http://good-times.webshots.com/video/3089298570101251238fRjdLX

this is mine

WKLAX

06-16-2007, 02:59 PM

^^^^
that sound isn't the least bit annoying...

faceofflax15

06-16-2007, 03:00 PM

http://good-times.webshots.com/video/3089298570101251238fRjdLX

this is mine
Yours has gotton a lot better, but it seems like you aren't using much, if any, of a wrist snap, which can add a lot of MPHs to your shot.

destructivelax

06-16-2007, 03:30 PM

wklax:sorry dude. its the lawn mower i think
i'll work on the wrist snap, i thought i was doing it though

masta_sean

06-16-2007, 03:37 PM

here is mine. i didnt have much time to get ready because it was a phone. (sorry bout the resolution.)

please critique.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6981945712185440090

RockfordAttack9

06-16-2007, 08:09 PM

masta-sean, use your whole body when shooting, not just you arms and legs. Be sure to get that tourque from the hips.

laxmiddie11

06-16-2007, 09:27 PM

masta-sean, use your whole body and snap your wrists.

laxmister22

06-16-2007, 10:27 PM

yeah masta sean follow through all the way too...it seems like ur just stopping ur stick mid way through the shot.

CSlax06

06-18-2007, 11:35 AM

WTF...

Someone take a vid of how to snap your wrists. I have no idea what any of you are talking about. Please and thanks homies.

MACDADDY

06-18-2007, 12:36 PM

WTF...

Someone take a vid of how to snap your wrists. I have no idea what any of you are talking about. Please and thanks homies.
i'll try do it. i'll have to wait for my goal to ship in first. that's gonna be a week or 2....it'll all be worth the wait though. i'll use my dad's awsome vid camera which is near of not HD film.

faceofflax15

06-18-2007, 12:39 PM

Your hands can be as low as you want. The lower your hands are, the most power you are going to get because you are increasing the lever, which extends the fulcrum, making the physics of the shot, faster. But by putting your hands lower, you lose some control, so if he can shoot with accuracy from his hands that low, why not? It just means a faster shot.

But he does need to get his hands up and away from his body.

Thomson#1

06-18-2007, 07:56 PM

Heres me, http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v207/Propaganda1242/th_time-roomandjump-shot.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v207/Propaganda1242/?action=view&current=time-roomandjump-shot.flv)

Wavelax4

06-18-2007, 08:31 PM

Heres me, http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v207/Propaganda1242/th_time-roomandjump-shot.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v207/Propaganda1242/?action=view&current=time-roomandjump-shot.flv)

How are you on JV?

LongIslandLax

06-18-2007, 08:35 PM

well since i started this thread might aswell post my own vid to get some C & C

didnt really get the tennis courts in the picture but i dont think that really matters form is what im going for

IMO, I think you need to widen your hands apart..like 10-12 inches and incorporate your back into the shot. It seems like you are just using your arms.

Thomson#1

06-19-2007, 01:17 PM

How are you on JV?
What do you mean? I'm only a freshman...

Valaxman17

06-19-2007, 01:41 PM

What do you mean? I'm only a freshman...
i think he means you look good

Laxattack05

06-19-2007, 01:52 PM

Thomson, i see one you can work on.

your stick appears to be good. not much there.

and you're working your feet right.

but in both shots, you didnt quite use your hips enough

you turned parallel with the sideline, but then you didnt rotate your hips with the rest of your body.

the more you can push through those hips, the more Mph.

oh and Wavelax4,

you saw his shot. that doesnt mean he can feed, that doesnt mean he can pick up ground balls, that doesnt mean he can cut.

im sure he's alright at those. but he'll perfect those skills and become a good varsity player.

kleinlax-75

06-19-2007, 02:12 PM

IMO, I think you need to widen your hands apart..like 10-12 inches and incorporate your back into the shot. It seems like you are just using your arms.i can add to it.....you need to put your arms further away from your body also they kinda look like the t-rex shot there

kleinlax-75

06-19-2007, 02:20 PM

Thomson, i see one you can work on.

your stick appears to be good. not much there.

and you're working your feet right.

but in both shots, you didnt quite use your hips enough

you turned parallel with the sideline, but then you didnt rotate your hips with the rest of your body.

the more you can push through those hips, the more Mph.

oh and Wavelax4,

you saw his shot. that doesnt mean he can feed, that doesnt mean he can pick up ground balls, that doesnt mean he can cut.

im sure he's alright at those. but he'll perfect those skills and become a good varsity player.well said i was gonna say the same

destructivelax

06-19-2007, 02:24 PM

jw. why'd you take the 'next' one's avatar?

rebel_lax40

06-19-2007, 03:09 PM

makimaki- when you start your shot your hands are a good distance from your body, but when you release it looks as if you bring them in a lot. when i shoot i try to keep my arms farther from my body.

kleinlax-75

06-19-2007, 03:12 PM

jw. why'd you take the 'next' one's avatar?ive had this forever i just had warnings i couldn't have it up

Wavelax4

06-19-2007, 07:03 PM

What do you mean? I'm only a freshman...

Oh, i didn't know that, but i meant you looked really good.

MaKiMaKi13

06-20-2007, 10:37 AM

IMO, I think you need to widen your hands apart..like 10-12 inches and incorporate your back into the shot. It seems like you are just using your arms.

my hands are 12 icnhes apart im wearing gloves and my back is incorporated most of the time , im not shooting hard overhand most of the time which could be why it doesnt look like it

but thanks for the arms tip ill work on keeping them extended further

faceofflax15

06-20-2007, 03:42 PM

BlakFate

06-20-2007, 04:38 PM

a lot of what im seeing is side arm or three quarter shots
ive learned that by going directly over the shoulder you can get a far more accurate shot

Chronicles

06-20-2007, 04:46 PM

maki it looks like your dropping your elbow everytime you shoot that causes you to lose some speed off your shot.

samuellee

06-20-2007, 05:12 PM

@mplax19@

06-20-2007, 08:05 PM

Heres a video I made today with my day off of finals. It is not really a video on me shooting, but rather a video on wall ball and stick skills. Critique on the off hand and regular. C+C is appreciated.
<embed width="430" height="389" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" src="http://s196.photobucket.com/player.swf?file=http://vid196.photobucket.com/albums/aa227/mplax26/wallball-1.flv"></embed>

masta_sean

06-20-2007, 08:42 PM

i dont really understand what you mean by using my wrists... but i have been practicing using my body allitle more.

http://video.google.com/videouploadfinished?docid=8640499162441345892&cid=44ae017013c4bb04

faceofflax15

06-20-2007, 09:02 PM

a lot of what im seeing is side arm or three quarter shots
ive learned that by going directly over the shoulder you can get a far more accurate shot

Theres nothing wrong with those types of shots. if you practice anything, you can have just as good as accuracy, like I can gaurentee I shoot just as accurate if not more accurate sidearm/underarm then I do over-hand. And I shot faster.

how do you wind up like that first video?

Which shot? I'm not quite sure what you mean, I think my wind-ups not that far from un-norm. When i was first learning to shoot, I used a lot of my baseball skills. Like my wind-up for pitching/throw from outfield, to get a good crow step, and then my swing to transfer my weight well.

faceofflax15

06-20-2007, 09:06 PM

i dont really understand what you mean by using my wrists... but i have been practicing using my body allitle more.

http://video.google.com/videouploadfinished?docid=8640499162441345892&cid=44ae017013c4bb04
It looks liek your not using your arms at all, and as if it were all legs. You need to use the push-pull motion with your arms/hands/wrists a lot more.
Heres a video I made today with my day off of finals. It is not really a video on me shooting, but rather a video on wall ball and stick skills. Critique on the off hand and regular. C+C is appreciated.
<embed width="430" height="389" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" src="http://s196.photobucket.com/player.swf?file=http://vid196.photobucket.com/albums/aa227/mplax26/wallball-1.flv"></embed>
Your off hand looks fairly well for being so young, but every few throws, it looks like your catapulting the stick off your shoulders.
Hands and arms away from the body?

BlakFate

06-20-2007, 10:33 PM

mplax it looks like you might be punching at the ball instead of letting it come into your stick. I was just taught it was a bad habit. i think it would be quicker, if you stopped punching at the ball and yoiu just absorbed it and auicksticked it out

@mplax19@

06-21-2007, 07:15 AM

Thanks BlakFate I will try to make my off hand better and try not to snap and punch, but the thing is i did about 300 with my off hand before I made the video, so I might be a little bit tired and not really concerned about form. So next time I play, I will think it over more.
Also thanks Faceoff for your tips, they will be useful for the next time I go out.
If you want I can make a short video today on the improvement.

destructivelax

06-21-2007, 08:29 AM

Thanks BlakFate I will try to make my off hand better and try not to snap and punch, but the thing is i did about 300 with my off hand before I made the video, so I might be a little bit tired and not really concerned about form. So next time I play, I will think it over more.
Also thanks Faceoff for your tips, they will be useful for the next time I go out.
If you want I can make a short video today on the improvement.
i'm not really that good at critiquing others but from what i can tell, you're punching/pushing the ball ou rather than using your wrist to snap the ball out

@mplax19@

06-21-2007, 09:42 AM

You might want to watch the video again, and watch my wrist closely because I am following through, and by following through ,You need to snap your wrist.

destructivelax

06-21-2007, 10:07 AM

You might want to watch the video again, and watch my wrist closely because I am following through, and by following through ,You need to snap your wrist.
yeah its probably fine. iunno like i said, i suck at reviewing videos.

Thomson#1

06-21-2007, 10:13 AM

You might want to watch the video again, and watch my wrist closely because I am following through, and by following through ,You need to snap your wrist.

your stick is basically laying on your shoulder, and that's not good. You need to bring your arms away from your body and bring your front elbow up.

CSlax06

06-21-2007, 10:14 AM

What we need is a video if a Pro, demonstrating perfect form, then we can work off of there. Because still, I cant grasp the concept of how to shoot 'correctly'.

HdGLaxWarrior

06-21-2007, 11:47 AM

http://good-times.webshots.com/video/3039216490093642144dTGKlC?vhost=good-times

ok... first things first. i'm a defenseman. but, i started playing lacrosse as attack, and i want to get back to it. so over the summer i'm going to be training like crazy to make the attack line from playing defense the past 3 seasons on varsity. i really want to do it.

yes, my shot is terrible. so can anyone help me? and please don't flame.

laxmiddie11

06-21-2007, 12:07 PM

Heres a video I made today with my day off of finals. It is not really a video on me shooting, but rather a video on wall ball and stick skills. Critique on the off hand and regular. C+C is appreciated.
<embed width="430" height="389" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" src="http://s196.photobucket.com/player.swf?file=http://vid196.photobucket.com/albums/aa227/mplax26/wallball-1.flv"></embed>
don't snap at the ball, let come to you and use soft hands.

Thomson#1

06-21-2007, 02:13 PM

well I got a new video. I kinda just like woke up and did this so I didn't really "warm up" or w/e so I missed the goal a bunch, no biggie. Anyways here it is:

<embed width="430" height="389" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" src="http://vidmg.photobucket.com/player.swf?file=http://vidmg.photobucket.com/albums/v207/Propaganda1242/backyardshots.flv"></embed>

Thomson#1

06-21-2007, 02:22 PM

yeah. If I have time I'll get a righty video up.

laxmiddie11

06-21-2007, 02:26 PM

well I got a new video. I kinda just like woke up and did this so I didn't really "warm up" or w/e so I missed the goal a bunch, no biggie. Anyways here it is:

<embed width="430" height="389" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" src="http://vidmg.photobucket.com/player.swf?file=http://vidmg.photobucket.com/albums/v207/Propaganda1242/backyardshots.flv"></embed>
bring your hands up higher. and what gloves are those?

laxkid891

06-21-2007, 02:29 PM

bring your hands up higher. and what gloves are those?
how much higher, they are spaced far enough apart. the bottom hand on the butt end and the other hand about 12-13" above it....if he spread them any more he would have no leverage on the shot

Thomson#1

06-21-2007, 02:29 PM

it's our teams custom glads.

Thomson#1

06-21-2007, 02:40 PM

By the way, here is how I measure and I find it very affective.

Place elbow on butt:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v207/Propaganda1242/measuring.jpg

Fully extend arm keeping elbow on butt:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v207/Propaganda1242/measuring1.jpg

Tape a ring where your palm is (right before your finger tips):
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v207/Propaganda1242/measuring2.jpg

And voila:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v207/Propaganda1242/measuring3.jpg

UVAlaxer432

06-21-2007, 02:50 PM

I hold it lower but i guess its preferance.

faceofflax15

06-21-2007, 02:56 PM

well I got a new video. I kinda just like woke up and did this so I didn't really "warm up" or w/e so I missed the goal a bunch, no biggie. Anyways here it is:

<embed width="430" height="389" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" src="http://vidmg.photobucket.com/player.swf?file=http://vidmg.photobucket.com/albums/v207/Propaganda1242/backyardshots.flv"></embed>
You do a good job of using your hips and hiding your stick, but do get more power, get your legs A LOT more into it. Like, if you ever played baseball, and your throwing the ball from the rightfield to home, thats how much you needs your legs..

yourtenderloins

06-21-2007, 02:57 PM

I'll try and get a vid of myself shooting and post it up. It usually ranges 90-101 Strong, and 80-90 off hand. I am in no way a pro, but I can shoot really hard.

bcannons14

06-21-2007, 03:02 PM

how old are you??

90's is freakishly fast dude. when they showed shots from the final 4, most guys were getting like 88 and stuff.
lets see a video.

Thomson#1

06-21-2007, 03:21 PM

I'll try and get a vid of myself shooting and post it up. It usually ranges 90-101 Strong, and 80-90 off hand. I am in no way a pro, but I can shoot really hard.

I'm callin' you out on this one. No matter who you are, 101 is extremely fast.

laxmiddie11

06-21-2007, 03:41 PM

how much higher, they are spaced far enough apart. the bottom hand on the butt end and the other hand about 12-13" above it....if he spread them any more he would have no leverage on the shot
No not moving his hands up the shaft, I meant putting them higher in the air at shoulder height. You know?

laxkid891

06-21-2007, 03:44 PM

No not moving his hands up the shaft, I meant putting them higher in the air at shoulder height. You know?
ooooo yea man i agree, get em high and away thomson......sorry about that misunderstanding laxmiddie

HdGLaxWarrior

06-21-2007, 07:13 PM

http://good-times.webshots.com/video/3039216490093642144dTGKlC?vhost=good-times

ok... first things first. i'm a defenseman. but, i started playing lacrosse as attack, and i want to get back to it. so over the summer i'm going to be training like crazy to make the attack line from playing defense the past 3 seasons on varsity. i really want to do it.

yes, my shot is terrible. so can anyone help me? and please don't flame.

anyone? extrawords

CSlax06

06-21-2007, 08:23 PM

Hard to tell. Video isnt exaclty, watchable.

MACDADDY

06-21-2007, 08:40 PM

anyone? extrawords
ya...its 15 seconds longs and like 12 of it is of you setting up.

HdGLaxWarrior

06-21-2007, 08:48 PM

ya...its 15 seconds longs and like 12 of it is of you setting up.

ok...

seriously though, does anyone have anything to offer?

MaKiMaKi13

06-21-2007, 09:34 PM

get a longer vid then we'll be able to help

Heres a video I made today with my day off of finals. It is not really a video on me shooting, but rather a video on wall ball and stick skills. Critique on the off hand and regular. C+C is appreciated.

whats up with the spinning of the stick man? i never got why people put walls or rebounders on the ground either i mean whats the point your not going to be passing to someone at there ankles in a game and expect them to catch it

faceofflax15

06-21-2007, 10:20 PM

No ones really said anything about mine, Anyone got anything [first page]?

yourtenderloins

06-22-2007, 12:04 PM

how old are you??

90's is freakishly fast dude. when they showed shots from the final 4, most guys were getting like 88 and stuff.
lets see a video.

I am 22. I play box in Philly. Consistant in the 90 range. Shooting for fun, just winding up gets mid 90, and gloves off I've hit 100.

yourtenderloins

06-22-2007, 12:05 PM

I'm callin' you out on this one. No matter who you are, 101 is extremely fast.

I have a lax shop sort of near me with a radar gun. I'll try to get the video there.

yourtenderloins

06-22-2007, 01:42 PM

In game is alot different than just shooting. If you watched the fastest shot comp alot of those guys were at 104 or so gloves on. I said I hit 100 gloves off. I have nothing to prove, I am a shooter that's all, I figured a vid would help some guys out.

yourtenderloins

06-22-2007, 02:41 PM

And Fiore hit 108. I can't touch that.

etowahlax21

06-22-2007, 02:42 PM

I don't have a video but I do have a problem. Over this season and a practice I have noticed that a majority of my shots go about a foot wide of the goal on the left side. Is there something I'm doing wrong???

EDIT: I'm right handed.

Valaxman17

06-22-2007, 02:43 PM

And Fiore hit 108. I can't touch that.
when will you have the vid up?

@mplax19@

06-22-2007, 02:45 PM

Maki, You might want to watch the video more closely, because I had only spun the stick once or twice. And second of all, that rebounder was the bottom of my old shed, and I probably don't have as much money to afford a real rebounder, unlike you.
And instead of criticizing me, you might want to work on not having your hands two inches apart when you take a shot, and actually use your writs, so why don't you go work on that, and I'll go work on my low rebounder.
Hows that sound?

Valaxman17

06-22-2007, 02:58 PM

dude calm down he didnt knwo that it was a shed this is a shot critique thread

Thomson#1

06-22-2007, 03:36 PM

Maki, You might want to watch the video more closely, because I had only spun the stick once or twice. And second of all, that rebounder was the bottom of my old shed, and I probably don't have as much money to afford a real rebounder, unlike you.
And instead of criticizing me, you might want to work on not having your hands two inches apart when you take a shot, and actually use your writs, so why don't you go work on that, and I'll go work on my low rebounder.
Hows that sound?

Dude, he was in no why criticizing you, he was only giving you constructive feedback.

faceofflax15

06-22-2007, 03:59 PM

Maki, You might want to watch the video more closely, because I had only spun the stick once or twice. And second of all, that rebounder was the bottom of my old shed, and I probably don't have as much money to afford a real rebounder, unlike you.
And instead of criticizing me, you might want to work on not having your hands two inches apart when you take a shot, and actually use your writs, so why don't you go work on that, and I'll go work on my low rebounder.
Hows that sound?
Whats wrong with having your hands two inches apart, Mr. Lacrosse? I'll tell you what's wrong with it.

NOTHING. All it does is increase the lever which in turn changes the fulcrum, increasing the leverage, making his shot faster. It is a bit harder to control at first, but with practice, you can control it just as well as having your hands futhur apart. Spinning your stick is bad, whether its once or twice or however many times it was. He does use his wrist, I actually thought most of Makis shot was fine, just to use a bit more of his legs, but he isn't the biggest guy, so his shot isn't going to be in the upper 90s.

And Maki was talking about the rebounder on the ground, because in this thread and others, there have been a lot of people with rebounders about knee high, which makes no sense.

So hows about you take some C+C and don't try to diss my boy Maki? Now take that and work on it.

@mplax19@

06-22-2007, 04:12 PM

First faceoff, why don't you stop trying to act tough on a forum Mr.lacrosse.
Second I was giving him constructive criticism back to him by telling him to move his hands. And by Maki telling me my rebounder has no point and is not Constructive criticism.
I was looking for criticism on my throwing and not how bad are my items that I had are, including my rebounder(shed).
I'm sorry if I offended you in any way, but was simply sticking up for myself and things.

UVAlaxer432

06-22-2007, 05:14 PM

My hands are 2 inches apart...anyway, i use a mini trampoline for a rebounder...ghetto pride!

MaKiMaKi13

06-22-2007, 05:16 PM

First faceoff, why don't you stop trying to act tough on a forum Mr.lacrosse.
Second I was giving him constructive criticism back to him by telling him to move his hands. And by Maki telling me my rebounder has no point and is not Constructive criticism.
I was looking for criticism on my throwing and not how bad are my items that I had are, including my rebounder(shed).
I'm sorry if I offended you in any way, but was simply sticking up for myself and things.

actually my point was ment more as general statement nor do i own a goal or a rebounder so im not exactly the richest either why do you think my video is at a tennis court in a park??, ive seen gigo use a rebound wall just like you on the ground, it would just make more sense to me to just stand your table up so you can get pass and catch at eye level

Thomson#1

06-22-2007, 05:17 PM

First faceoff, why don't you stop trying to act tough on a forum Mr.lacrosse.
Second I was giving him constructive criticism back to him by telling him to move his hands. And by Maki telling me my rebounder has no point and is not Constructive criticism.
I was looking for criticism on my throwing and not how bad are my items that I had are, including my rebounder(shed).
I'm sorry if I offended you in any way, but was simply sticking up for myself and things.

just stop talking, seriously, leave this thread if you can't behave.

All of maki's comments where constructive criticism. He mentioned not having a rebounder low to the ground because it's not realistic, that's good feedback and something you should consider. He also mentioned that you spun your stick, him letting you know that you did something which may be a bad habit for you constructive.

Now you coming back at him, telling everyone that he's dissing you, that is NEGATIVE. Just take what he says and use it to your benefit.

bwlacrosse3

06-22-2007, 05:23 PM

anyone? extrawords

it seems like ur hip turning and ur entire body isnt in sync w/your stick, i play golf, and like when i turn, like my entire body comes before the club, so like if u turned ur hips first then ur wrists then have the stick come last w/all that power generated from ur body.

faceofflax15

06-22-2007, 05:38 PM

First faceoff, why don't you stop trying to act tough on a forum Mr.lacrosse.
Second I was giving him constructive criticism back to him by telling him to move his hands. And by Maki telling me my rebounder has no point and is not Constructive criticism.
I was looking for criticism on my throwing and not how bad are my items that I had are, including my rebounder(shed).
I'm sorry if I offended you in any way, but was simply sticking up for myself and things.
Okay? I was having a buddies back. His criticism was constructive. Mine was a bit less, but not much more, because we're just beating a dead horse when you don't listen to us.

Valaxman17

06-22-2007, 06:04 PM

mmp everything he said was constructive just lleave the thread if you cant accept the criticism

laxmiddie11

06-22-2007, 06:32 PM

First faceoff, why don't you stop trying to act tough on a forum Mr.lacrosse.
Second I was giving him constructive criticism back to him by telling him to move his hands. And by Maki telling me my rebounder has no point and is not Constructive criticism.
I was looking for criticism on my throwing and not how bad are my items that I had are, including my rebounder(shed).
I'm sorry if I offended you in any way, but was simply sticking up for myself and things.
1. You shouldn't try to act tough on the forums either. I saw your noodle arms in your video and you look like your 10.
2. He gave you constructive criticism in a nice way.
3. He said he didn't understand why people have a low rebounder in general. It wasn't meant just for you.
4. When you gave him constructive criticism back, it wasn't trying to help him, you were trying to put him down.
5. It was unnecessary to stick up for yourself if nobody was trying to offend you.
6. Get out of this thread if you can't take criticism.
7. :bartmoon: .

MACDADDY

06-22-2007, 06:58 PM

Okay? I was having a buddies back. His criticism was constructive. Mine was a bit less, but not much more, because we're just beating a dead horse when you don't listen to us.
lol gotta admit that made me lol litterally.
i would stop fighting about how far your hands are apart.

anyways if your confident enough you can shoot that way, do it.
if you want c+c, be ready for some harsh comments. if you cant take the heat, dont post your videos.
the low rebounders do seem kind of pointless unless you are working on just catching. id rather find a good buddy and play catch or find a good wall.

just to add in something for my ghetto pride, ive been shooting on a chainlink fence for 1 year, and have finally saved enough for a goal :thumbsup:. i have relized i have recieved enough tickets from the police/park rangers to add up enough for nice goal, mainly because our shots have been denting a fence in about 3 feet already, to the point where you can crawl under it.
lol for wallball, me and a few friends have been using a park bathroom :chuckle:

@mplax19@

06-22-2007, 07:10 PM

laxmiddle, I don't know who the hell implied I was tough, and with you and your smart replies only adds to the fire. So I suggest you either post a video of your greatness, or shut up. I was willing to take the criticism and did, if you decided to take a look onto the fist page when I first posted it. Thats great that you have your "friends" back, but when the argument is over, and you just feel like adding in, you only make things worse.
So why don't we end this whole mess right were it had started.

@mplax19@

06-22-2007, 07:20 PM

actually my point was ment more as general statement nor do i own a goal or a rebounder so im not exactly the richest either why do you think my video is at a tennis court in a park??, ive seen gigo use a rebound wall just like you on the ground, it would just make more sense to me to just stand your table up so you can get pass and catch at eye level
And the whole point of me keeping my rebounder low is so the balls don't go flying over the fence.Even it doesn't really work, seeing as how I loose about a ball a day.

laxmiddie11

06-22-2007, 07:24 PM

laxmiddle, I don't know who the hell implied I was tough, and with you and your smart replies only adds to the fire. So I suggest you either post a video of your greatness, or shut up. I was willing to take the criticism and did, if you decided to take a look onto the fist page when I first posted it. Thats great that you have your "friends" back, but when the argument is over, and you just feel like adding in, you only make things worse.
So why don't we end this whole mess right were it had started.
You implied that you were tough. You were not willing to take the criticism, because you flamed Maki after he posted it. And I don't see how the arguement was over because you never apologized. And I am now done and will not post again in this arguement. I just needed to vent. So I apologize that you were my first oppurtunity to do so.

Thomson#1

06-22-2007, 07:32 PM

Can a mod please delete all these arguments (including this post right here) it's cluttering the thread.

laxmiddie11

06-22-2007, 07:41 PM

faceofflax15

06-22-2007, 09:16 PM

On your left hand you need to widen your feet apart. It looks like they're very close together. Also it looks like when you start your wind up your cradling closer to the throat a lot longer than you are when your shooting righty. And you need to bring your arms back.
Thank you :]. I'll deffinitly work on the cradling near throat for a lessend period of time.

Thomson#1

06-22-2007, 09:42 PM

Here's my off-hand (righty) shots: (Sorry about it getting dark at the end, I just switched cameras and it got dark out)

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Thomson#1

06-22-2007, 09:58 PM

It looks like on the skip step before the shot, you almost cross your feet. Work on more of a shuffling motion and do it quicker when going righty. It seems like your whole body droops a little bit and you bend your knees a lot when stepping, slowing down your whole wind-up a fair amount.

Wow I never noticed that. Thanks man, I'm gonna have to work on that.

Sometime next week I'm gonna make a video of try to practice perfect form. These videos I've been uploading are my normal shots, not "perfect" shots.

ShazamLax25

06-22-2007, 09:59 PM

No ones really said anything about mine, Anyone got anything [first page]?

That actually looks pretty good to me. The only thing I can say about it is to torque your body around a little more and maybe point your shoulder to the goal (Not 100% positive about that it's kinda hard to tell on the video.). Other than that it looks good.

tkdlaxer

06-22-2007, 10:14 PM

Here's my off-hand (righty) shots: (Sorry about it getting dark at the end, I just switched cameras and it got dark out)

<embed width="430" height="389" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" src="http://vidmg.photobucket.com/player.swf?file=http://vidmg.photobucket.com/albums/v207/Propaganda1242/offhandshooting.flv"></embed>

The only thing I noticed while watching your strong and offhand videos is that you toss the ball in the air before you wind up to shoot alot of times. I think I do this too...anyways it doesn't necessarily effect your form, but we do practice like we play, so I'd think about trying to cut that out. the mechanics of your shot looks nice to me, though I'm no expert by any means.

Thomson#1

06-22-2007, 10:19 PM

The only thing I noticed while watching your strong and offhand videos is that you toss the ball in the air before you wind up to shoot alot of times. I think I do this too...anyways it doesn't necessarily effect your form, but we do practice like we play, so I'd think about trying to cut that out. the mechanics of your shot looks nice to me, though I'm no expert by any means.

Me tossing the ball and catching it simulates catching it. I do it to practice a quick release, as if I just caught a pass and then I'm firing it immediately. I find it affective.

faceofflax15

06-23-2007, 05:08 AM

It looks like on the skip step before the shot, you almost cross your feet. Work on more of a shuffling motion and do it quicker when going righty. It seems like your whole body droops a little bit and you bend your knees a lot when stepping, slowing down your whole wind-up a fair amount.
Theres nothing wrong with crossing his feet. Well on purpose, his looks on accident, but I do a caroke step in my wind-up, from baseball.

tkdlaxer

06-23-2007, 03:04 PM

Okay heres one of me. There are 2 clips..

I know I flip my stick before I wind up, I'm working on that. Uh the second half, or second clip or whatever I'm not in the camera's view all the time; bear with it please because there are a few that are.

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My accuracy is decent. I'm really looking at form, thanks!

Thomson#1

06-23-2007, 03:08 PM

tkd - you drop your front elbow a bit too much.

tkdlaxer

06-23-2007, 03:12 PM

tkd - you drop your front elbow a bit too much.

You mean like bringing it in too close to my body?

MaKiMaKi13

06-23-2007, 06:22 PM

need to get those arms higher and further away tkd, you could also extend them more like kiss your bicep to get even more power

other then that not bad but yea gotta stop the flip, on another note what are you shooting at??

tkdlaxer

06-23-2007, 06:25 PM

I have a rebounder in my back hard and I rigged a Trash Can up underneath it. It gets the job done.

MaKiMaKi13

06-23-2007, 06:31 PM

nice i thought it was cans on a fence which is also a decent way to practice for accuracy, your a natural lefty im guessing?

Wavelax4

06-23-2007, 09:11 PM

The only thing I noticed while watching your strong and offhand videos is that you toss the ball in the air before you wind up to shoot alot of times. I think I do this too...anyways it doesn't necessarily effect your form, but we do practice like we play, so I'd think about trying to cut that out. the mechanics of your shot looks nice to me, though I'm no expert by any means.

Looking at the differences between you offhand and stronghand, you get your body A LOT more into it on your stronghand, and it seems like you are using just jsut your arms on righty. So basically you need to generate more torque by suing more of your body.

MACDADDY

06-23-2007, 09:58 PM

some of the local berkley coaches say that its not good to cross your feet because it takes longer to get the shot off. can anyone confirm?

faceofflax15

06-24-2007, 02:17 PM

some of the local berkley coaches say that its not good to cross your feet because it takes longer to get the shot off. can anyone confirm?
Thats completly wrong, it takes the same time as a shuffle step, its basically the same thing, just preference.

WickedDpole21

06-24-2007, 05:00 PM

well since i started this thread might aswell post my own vid to get some C & C
http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa17/PsYcHoNoVa13/th_M4V20008.jpg (http://s199.photobucket.com/albums/aa17/PsYcHoNoVa13/?action=view&current=M4V20008.flv)

didnt really get the tennis courts in the picture but i dont think that really matters form is what im going for
good but your follow through is a bit weird. make sure to follow through down, not to the side, and control your stick, not just let it fly after the shot.
read up on some of these articles on the mechanics, its a nice shot so far.

nd_lacrosse

06-25-2007, 02:58 PM

Considering the fastest guys in the MLL barely break 100, I'm going to have to call shenanigans on this one.

i believe him. i know a bunch of old timers that shoot upward from 100. this guy pete played for HCCC way back in the day and he shoots 100 consistantly. we clocked him once and his low to high underarm shot was 112.

KUjayhawks42

06-25-2007, 09:27 PM

Here's mine...

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iplaylax22

06-25-2007, 09:48 PM

Here's mine...

<embed width="430" height="389" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" src="http://vid33.photobucket.com/player.swf?file=http://vid33.photobucket.com/albums/d89/lacrosse658/MOV00765.flv"></embed>

really nice overall buit it seems like your arms are really close to your body the whole time. try getting your arms up and away from the start of your shot all the way to the end

KUjayhawks42

06-26-2007, 12:05 PM

really nice overall buit it seems like your arms are really close to your body the whole time. try getting your arms up and away from the start of your shot all the way to the end

Ok, thanks i'll try and work on it

yourtenderloins

07-01-2007, 07:55 PM

So I dislocated my left hand thumb, but I restrung this stick and needed to try it out. All right, one awful painful left. Stick was shooting high but you get the idea.

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faceofflax15

07-01-2007, 07:59 PM

Finally, a pretty good shot. Only thing is it doesn't look like you hide your stick too much... Work on that and your righty will be set.

yourtenderloins

07-01-2007, 08:06 PM

Finally, a pretty good shot. Only thing is it doesn't look like you hide your stick too much... Work on that and your righty will be set.

Just screwing around not the real deal. Angle is also an issue. The stick is completely behing my body. Once my thumb feels better I'll be rerecording. I was almost embarresed when I watched the video. I had to post something though. Some kids were requesting.

laxgoalie66

07-24-2007, 01:47 PM

yourtenderloins you have a nice shot bro

a kid on my team got clocked at 105 believe it or not, he shoots really weird though and hes VERY tall with really long arms which i think come into play, he rips the net a lot haha

yourtenderloins

07-24-2007, 02:35 PM

yourtenderloins you have a nice shot bro

a kid on my team got clocked at 105 believe it or not, he shoots really weird though and hes VERY tall with really long arms which i think come into play, he rips the net a lot haha

Thanks man, like I said I want to shoot another vid, but I keep getting all these stupid nagging injuries as the season goes on.

I shot through a 5mm net a couple of games ago. I pulled my hammy last night though, so I'll probably be out until the playoffs.

laxgoalie66

07-24-2007, 03:54 PM

yea, we were messin around before practice once and he made the front of the goal go like a foot into the air

northlax44

07-25-2007, 06:32 PM

hey @mp....don't practice passing and catching 50/50. what i mean by this is, stand perpendicular to what your throwing at (shoulders pointed at target) this helps you to not only get your muslce memory better but it also helps you in games for passing.

@mplax19@

07-25-2007, 06:42 PM

thanks man, ill try it when i get out.

destructivelax

08-01-2007, 08:18 PM

http://good-times.webshots.com/video/3008006120101251238RoKQiv
critique me dudeee

faceofflax15

08-01-2007, 09:31 PM

Your hanging your stick too much. And thats about all i could tell because I really couldn't see much in that video.

And showing your stick to the goalie too much.

jasonhk318

08-22-2007, 02:05 AM

how far would you say yourtenderloins is from the goal, what's a good distance to practice shooting

czechinthepipes

08-22-2007, 03:12 AM

how far would you say yourtenderloins is from the goal, what's a good distance to practice shooting
Id say he is around 20 feet away from the goal. (I tried to compare his distance by take a mental note of the goal which is 6 feet high and seeing how many goals could be laid down before they would get to him and its about 3. Of course this isn't a great way its just a guess).
So overall guess about or near 20 feet or around 7 yards.

A good distance to practice shooting is simple, shoot from many different distances, angles and shot speeds.
Warm up with some wallball both arms so your loose and start taking some nice and easy shots from about 15 feet (5 yards) and say about 10 shots. Back up a few yards and repeat what you did before. Back up a few more yards and repeat.
Then take some cones or something to mark distance. Put one cone: 10 feet away from goal, one 5 yards away from goal, another one 10 yards, and one more thats 15 yards away. If you want add as many as you want.
At each area pick different angles to shoot on the goal. At each angle shoot about 10-20 shots. Once you've gone through a whole set do another.
Once you get used to this you'll be able to create your own shooting plan.
Just make sure to practice from many different angles, different distances, right and left, stationary and on the run. Make sure you're using correct form and shoot a lot of balls.

MaKiMaKi13

08-22-2007, 07:48 PM

how far would you say yourtenderloins is from the goal, what's a good distance to practice shooting

probably about 8 yards and realistically in game type situations you will be shooting anywhere from about 8 - 15 yards out

WAC_Shoremen

11-05-2007, 04:16 PM

I might as well get in on this. Feel free to critique my dodges as well as my shots.

http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l197/WAC_Shoremen/th_Shots.jpg (http://s96.photobucket.com/albums/l197/WAC_Shoremen/?action=view&current=Shots.flv)

MaKiMaKi13

11-05-2007, 04:22 PM

actually getting you in the shot, or well more of you anyways would help not trying to hate just saying

WAC_Shoremen

11-05-2007, 04:28 PM

What do you mean by that? Should I step harder?

MaKiMaKi13

11-05-2007, 04:29 PM

What do you mean by that? Should I step harder?

iI meant like in the video have you inside the frame, get it?

WAC_Shoremen

11-05-2007, 04:31 PM

Oh, ok. I thought I was in the frame the whole shot. Well, from where I step. Is there anything you can see from what's on there?

It's too dark to go reshoot, so I'll wait for tomorrow.

MaKiMaKi13

11-06-2007, 10:42 AM

well wearing glove is a good place to start , you could probably extend your arms further behind you too like kiss your bicep far

seems like your elbow is droppin at the last second from what i can see also, as for your dodges you need faster execution and to keep your head up

Bretmac

11-06-2007, 01:56 PM

well wearing glove is a good place to start , you could probably extend your arms further behind you too like kiss your bicep far

seems like your elbow is droppin at the last second from what i can see also, as for your dodges you need faster execution and to keep your head up

yeah maki summed it up your elbow is dropping a little early use your hips a bit more and i couldnt see if you were snapping your wrists or not and i agree with maki dodge with your head up or it will be lights out nice yard Btw

CSlax06

11-06-2007, 02:49 PM

What do you mean by that? Should I step harder?

Being a D guy, I love playing kids like you. As soon as you came out of a roll, your stick was hanging way out. Tuck, that thing right to your body, and explode out of the dodge.

For the record, I shot 89mph at a tourney Sunday. Woot.

WAC_Shoremen

11-06-2007, 03:18 PM

Congrats. I worked on what you guys said. My shots are actually getting faster and more accurate because I extended my arms more. I don't quite know how I could stop dropping my elbows, but I'll defenitely work on dodging tomorrow.

QBYattackmen15

11-16-2007, 10:55 PM

WAC_Shoreman...1.)nice landscape haha. 2.) on the roll be sure to tuck the stick or if you do hang ti a ittle, know your hanging it and bait the defender into chasing behind because then your gonna have a real easy time and room shot. on that split dodge, i actually learned this at a camp i go to and now i practice it everyday,say im going left tor giht like you did. i run lefty(both hands) then wehn i go to split i like throw the stick down, sliding it into my right hand and by doing this, my right hand is quickly at the throat of my head and i can get my left arm up qucik to get infront of it to protect my stick. so i would say once you change hands, put your srm up infront of your stick like you would when your running one handed and someones coming to the side of you. know what i mean? when i post my vid ill have it in that. your form was alright, just need to work on stick protection.

WAC_Shoremen

11-16-2007, 11:07 PM

What if I'm dodging against a defender with great footwork and positioning? I might not have time to go one handed then get a good shot off. If I can only get a split second before he's back on me, I'll just get lifted when I wind up. I'll remember that when I just dodge to get space or if I have some speed on the guy. Any tips on not dropping my elbow?

And thanks for noticing the yard. I hardly ever lose balls now. Only the occasional crossbar shot gets out. Most of them stay in.

QBYattackmen15

11-17-2007, 10:17 AM

well you dont do your dodge when your 2 feet form your defender,make sure you have a little space and ntoice his tendencies when you play him,but that would be in a game and you cant practice that. and another thing that will help, when your going to dodge from up top on him, make sure you go pretty far up in the box or a little outside the box. This way you can just do your dodge while sprinting and he will need to back pedal madd fast to catch you and if you does keep up with you while sprinting hes not think as much of what checks to throw or anything hes just trying to keep up, which he most likely wont if oyu have some speed and you can burn someone pretty bad if you just sprint at him. And of course not every dodge is full proof, anything can happen when playin an actual defender. In fact i just remembered. the VERY LAST move on a vid is what im talking about. go to tv.insidelacrosse.com, go to the search bar on it, type in "Blue Chip" go to the senior vid and go to almost the very end and it is that last move on their. guy doing a fast split dodge and just burning his defender.

KUjayhawks42

07-21-2008, 12:15 PM

I think we should bring this thread back, considering how helpful it has been to my shot. I will be uploading a new video of mine tonight

laxobsesive359

07-21-2008, 02:42 PM

underdog10

07-21-2008, 04:10 PM

Here's my off-hand (righty) shots: (Sorry about it getting dark at the end, I just switched cameras and it got dark out)

<embed width="430" height="389" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" src="http://vidmg.photobucket.com/player.swf?file=http://vidmg.photobucket.com/albums/v207/Propaganda1242/offhandshooting.flv"></embed>

get those hands high and away on that off hand and you'll see a lot more velocity on that shot:thumbsup:

c1rca

07-21-2008, 05:11 PM

http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g181/c1rca491/th_DSCN0585.jpg (http://s56.photobucket.com/albums/g181/c1rca491/?action=view&current=DSCN0585.flv)

KUjayhawks42

07-22-2008, 09:11 PM