View Full Version : The most under/over rated heads and shafts
WSlax9
06-22-2007, 02:12 PM
Based on your opinion and experience with the equipment what do you think is the most under/over rated heads and shafts??
mine is
Overrated-
head: clutch
shaft: levitation
underrated-
head: original proton
shaft: f15
btw i did search for this topic and couldnt find it!
etowahlax21
06-22-2007, 02:14 PM
Overrated-
Head: Evo Pro
Shaft: Krypto Pro
Underrated-
Head: Blade (because so many people say they hate them.)
Shaft: Krypto
supershot666
06-22-2007, 02:15 PM
F15 is not under rated just forgotten and not known about by newer players i have had mine for like four or five years...sadly i discovered a small crack in the back of it but still a great shaft none the less and yes the clutch is over rated but it is such a great head i think the Arrow is underrated because people think it looks wierd and its diffrent so it must be crap
Warriorlacrosse
06-22-2007, 02:22 PM
I think that the attack vandium grip is underrated. I like them.
but yeah I agree with whats been posted and I think Evos and the truth are overrated.
nemiman18
06-22-2007, 02:48 PM
overrated
titan pro, classic, and levi
under
803
variable
sc21
gopackfan
06-22-2007, 02:58 PM
Based on your opinion and experience with the equipment what do you think is the most under/over rated heads and shafts??
mine is
Overrated-
head: clutchshaft: levitation
underrated-
head: original proton
shaft: f15
btw i did search for this topic and couldnt find it!
the clutch is such a great head. You probably haven't even used it.
WSlax9
06-22-2007, 03:01 PM
actually i have. i never said it was a bad head i just said it was overrated.
supershot666
06-22-2007, 03:11 PM
it is a little overrated but it deserves it
gopackfan
06-22-2007, 03:15 PM
it is a little overrated but it deserves it
Yea I agree. WSLAX i thought u were tryin to say it was a bad head sorry.
Laxattack05
06-22-2007, 03:25 PM
Over: Levi, Helix
under: Answer, 803
preplax29
06-22-2007, 03:45 PM
overrated: clutch, helix, all warrior titanium poles
underrated: brine sc21, im undecided on the head though.
aviator
06-22-2007, 03:49 PM
Over: Harrow I beam (I hate how they feel
hmmm...gotta balance it with a head....for durablility bionic, but the pinch and string holes make up for it (impossible to get a bad pocket), overall I would have to say pulse maybe, IDK can't really think of one that I have used enough to get a good feel of it
Uder: Shaft: al6000 pro maybe, light, not very durable but gets alot of crap for being a beginner stick, which is, ultimatly, what it is trying to be
Head: Truth (fave ever), proton +, av8 (when you pinch it it is reallly nice, not that heavy, somewhat stiff, somewhat flexy still. I use it for mess around faceoffs, and if I was a faceoff mid I would use it (either wing middie or attack for me though in games).
WSlax9
06-22-2007, 04:48 PM
theres no underrated heads and shafts =P
dwyer28
06-22-2007, 05:14 PM
overrated- evo pro, a very overly used head that i have owned and enjoyed it...for the 3 days that it lasted, and shaft wise prob warrior shafts but i love them
underrated would probably be the answer and db803
ccslax6
06-22-2007, 05:43 PM
I think an underrated head is the Brine Ripper. It Is the stiffest head that Ive ever felt.
EDIT: If you want to sell me one for cheap, PM me!
overrated
head:even though i hate to admit it, the torque. never really felt totally comfortable with mine. love the scoop though.
shaft:krypto. mined got dinged up by one of my kid's al6000. (im an asst. coach, not a 19 year old father)
underrated
head:renegade. made so many players look stupid back in hs while using this thing.
shaft:old stx al6000. the one that's painted white. still have no dings or dents on it after 6 years.
ccharp
06-22-2007, 05:51 PM
Overrated
Head- i hate to say it but the x2.
Shaft- Wonderboys- i have seen about 6 of them brake and 3 of them were in 1 game
Underated
Head- Gait Icon i have alot of good heads and this one is my gamer lol it is extremely light and i love the pinch
Shaft- DB803 ive had mine for a couple years and it only has a little bit of scratches and with my icon it is the lightest thing that i have ever felt.
WSlax9
06-23-2007, 02:25 PM
x2 is definately not an overrated head (in my opnion) probably the best head i've ever used
mvlax11
06-23-2007, 09:02 PM
Over-
Wonderboy, yea they break like nothing
Helix
Under-
SC21
Answer
bigdale9
06-23-2007, 09:29 PM
over: x2 No offence its not worth $100
original iggy
under: arrow
Warriorlacrosse
06-23-2007, 09:56 PM
the deuce is overrated, everyone thinks that its [/U]so cool[U] just because deuce mean "number 2" therefor it sounds like you beat the sh*t out of other players, the bionic is underrated, everyone used to love them but now its long forgoten, I still love them though
this might be the a.d.d., but when I hear duece I think poop so when I hear I use a duece, my brain thinks I use poop.
Dub C lacrosse
06-23-2007, 09:58 PM
Over Head- Helix, X2.
Over Shaft- Levitation, Titanium poles.
Under Head- Answer
Under Shaft- DB803
spartanlax91
06-24-2007, 02:14 PM
IMO
overrated head/shaft: x2/talons
underrated head/shaft: answer/803
D4LIFE
06-24-2007, 02:35 PM
OVER: Klytes
UNDER: Helix (sick if have right pocket) and STX Scandium
Dewdrop
06-24-2007, 02:49 PM
OVER:all Warrior shafts except platinum
Under: Brine/STX scandiums
bigzoinka17
06-24-2007, 09:32 PM
overated: crankshaft stuff
underated: brine ignite supra
Revolution
06-24-2007, 09:35 PM
Over:clutch, Helix, evo pro.
Under: Ripper, Icon, Vapor, G-force, Arrow, Primer, Motive
Over:Kpro and all its variants, wonderboy, warrior ti's.
Under:Woodies, Vanadium, Zirconium, C405, Scandiums,
GMlax21
06-24-2007, 09:58 PM
The brine ripper is in my opinion the most underated head. It's really cheap, like $22, and is super stiff. The gait wizard is also very underated (wizard=tank).
manup5183
06-24-2007, 10:36 PM
Under rated
Cyber
Vapor
Edge (It is now, It wasnt when it came out)
excalibur
sniper
OZ
QnzLaxStatz
06-26-2007, 10:09 PM
deffiantly overrated is x2..i love them but when they were making them still nobody was interested..once they were discountinued everybody went crazzy for them..but thats how it is for anything..overated shaft is deffinalty most titanium shafts..they all ding and dent the same...underatted would be the proton or the answer for me...
creeklaxmid
06-26-2007, 11:05 PM
Over: Helix, Levitation and Evo Pro
Under: DB 803, Answer and Excalibur
WSlax9
06-27-2007, 12:26 PM
i personally think answers are piece of trash. it is WAYY too flexible and try playing them when the weather is hott, the head turns into jelly.
rockstar13
06-27-2007, 02:03 PM
overrated
swizzle
and helix
under rated
boinic
and the wonder boy or i beam or sc21
number19pjj
06-27-2007, 02:18 PM
overated underrated
evo pro x3
swizzle warrior alloy 2000s
laxgoalie444
06-27-2007, 02:19 PM
i dont get why people think the helix is overrated i love that head
rockstar13
06-27-2007, 02:58 PM
i used it its ok but way to expensive
laxcanada
06-27-2007, 03:14 PM
over: eclipse and all harrows
under: db803 and icon, great head
lublax77
06-27-2007, 07:42 PM
^^^^ im gonna be the first to say it but no the last, there is NO WAY you can call the eclipse overrated, if the design hasnt been changed in 11 years its obviously a very solid head
warriorlax99
06-27-2007, 07:46 PM
Anyone think the harrow howitzer dpole is over/underated?
CHSLAX22x
06-27-2007, 08:27 PM
I am definitly going with the cyber in terms of most underrated heads. Its lightweight, somewhat pinched, stiff and most importantly I can string it better than my evo pro. Which is why it is my starter
laxattackman8
06-27-2007, 09:58 PM
Well personally I believe that some aluminum shafts are underrated. Because there resonably light and are only like 20 bucks so if onbe breaks or bends you just pay 20 bucks for a new one instead of 200 bucks for a new titanium one. But this only goes for some aluminum shafts not all.
baseballsucks
06-27-2007, 10:24 PM
Well personally I believe that some aluminum shafts are underrated. Because there resonably light and are only like 20 bucks so if onbe breaks or bends you just pay 20 bucks for a new one instead of 200 bucks for a new titanium one. But this only goes for some aluminum shafts not all.
I completely agree, dont waste your money on a 200$ shaft, buy cheap ones they seriously are just a little bit heavier, you cant even notice the weight, in my opinion. Just buy like 7 cheap shafts, for the price of a levitation.
laxcanada
06-28-2007, 06:43 PM
^^^^ im gonna be the first to say it but no the last, there is NO WAY you can call the eclipse overrated, if the design hasnt been changed in 11 years its obviously a very solid head
well I can Ive used one before and I didnt like it one bit
george
06-28-2007, 06:52 PM
over rated
helix
wonderboy
under rated
blade
krypto
WSlax9
06-30-2007, 06:54 PM
i definately agree on the wonderboy being overrated. keep this thread alive boys!
murderlax
06-30-2007, 07:01 PM
i think the proton is underrated.
i mean, most kids think, "hey it's still a wide head, so it's a bad head". well not necesarilly. i thing this is a really good head for defenders, and for middie who are catching hard passes on the run. i mean, even college players use it because it's easy to catch with and it strings nicely.
MACDADDY
06-30-2007, 08:05 PM
i think the proton is underrated.
i mean, most kids think, "hey it's still a wide head, so it's a bad head". well not necesarilly. i thing this is a really good head for defenders, and for middie who are catching hard passes on the run. i mean, even college players use it because it's easy to catch with and it strings nicely.
ya the proton is underrated. i would get one, but 1) im broke and 2) i might get one for free at the camp im going to.
bigdale9
06-30-2007, 10:36 PM
^^^^^^^^yea but a proton power is like it and a little better it is more pinched but not uber pinched like the kannon or any other cs head
and under shaft is tha al6000...cheap and quite durable
and a nothe over shaft is most 7075 shafts they get quite dinged up
checklax
06-30-2007, 10:39 PM
overated: e3
underated: Platinum Alloy
Yoo Dood
06-30-2007, 10:43 PM
I completely agree, dont waste your money on a 200$ shaft, buy cheap ones they seriously are just a little bit heavier, you cant even notice the weight, in my opinion. Just buy like 7 cheap shafts, for the price of a levitation.
Could nto agree with this more, My STX AL600 that was cut down from a $20 D-Pole has lasted me 3 years now with only scratches and little dings, thing is a beast.
and you cant call the blade underrater all the kids on here jock that thing so hard.
Most under rated for me would definitely be the Proton, i love mine, one of the first heads i got and i still use it all the time, im actually picking up a new one this week.
cmdlax25
06-30-2007, 10:52 PM
over-evo pro,helix,k18,kryptopro,harrows
under-e3,primer,f22,proton power,db803
playwithpride14
06-30-2007, 11:27 PM
I think that the attack vandium grip is underrated. I like them.
but yeah I agree with whats been posted and I think Evos and the truth are overrated.
truth is VERY over rated along w/ all the crankshafts.
under rated
al6000- jsut cuz its for beginners doesn;t make it good. i started in 7th grade and lasted me 2 full seasons before it got seriously dinged.
blade- everyone says its bad for some reason...
brainddeadjock
07-01-2007, 12:13 AM
Overated Head - Warrior Pro Series ==> Over prices, over pinched, over in '09
Underated Head - AV8 ==> the proton for $35
Overated Shaft - All Scandium and Titanium D Poles ==> Too expensive, too weak/durable for the price
Underated Shaft - Brine F-15 ==> takes a lickin' and keeps checkin
MACDADDY
07-01-2007, 02:32 AM
stx steel is a pretty underrated shaft. its pretty durable, and light.
must say the original av8 (no independent ball stop) is extremely underrated as well.
overrated is the helix, clutch, and any extremely tight pinched heads that are really expensive. ti's are also overrated.
laxtjm75
07-01-2007, 07:27 AM
its a good head but the stringing it comes with is reely bad, after a while the mesh gets messed p, it has 2 much wip, im geting mine restrung, its almost 2 pinched for me, comin from a lutch user, had it for a year no alot about it
laxgoalie444
07-01-2007, 07:34 AM
the x2 is overpriced on this site not overrated
overrated- titan pro, pulse
underrated- f10s, a6
justlaxin1819
07-01-2007, 07:54 AM
overrated
helix
underrated
proton
cyber
profile
WSlax9
07-03-2007, 12:40 PM
i like what im seeing from everyone. keep this thread going!!
ItalyLaxer11
07-19-2007, 10:25 PM
Over Head:Clutch
Shaft:Swizel
Under Head:Cyber
Shaft:al6000
ThugLife9998
07-19-2007, 10:55 PM
Overrated-
Head: Evo Pro
Shaft: Krypto Pro
Underrated-
Head: Blade (because so many people say they hate them.)
Shaft: Krypto
Not only is the blade incredibly overrated, but is it a coincidence that your choices for underrated are your setup?
over-
Head:x2/blade (not saying they're bad)
Shaft:krypto pro (my bro's kylte is lighter, cheaper and just as strong)
under-
Head:answer
Shaft:platinum alloy
LaxMaxVince
07-19-2007, 11:21 PM
Underrated:
Definitely the AV8
Motive
Blade? Even though theyre way too expensive right now
Overrated:
Helix, even though i have one *sigh*
Evo Pro
maxim666
07-20-2007, 06:59 PM
over rated:
x2; my favourite head of all time, but the prices that they're going for now are ridiculous
torque; decent head with too much hype
under rated:
profile; great stiff head, reminds me of the x2
shaft; warrior bruiser; great box shaft that works just fine for field
Skatertim10
08-02-2007, 07:26 PM
over: deffinately the helix and evo pro
deffinately the kpro, levitation, wonderboys
under: icon, vapor, cyber, answer
f22, f15, platinum alloy, db803, c405, and klyte
I don't care what people say, torques and x2s can't be rated high enough!
scarsdalelax08
08-02-2007, 08:21 PM
under rated - the exacto
justlaxin1819
08-02-2007, 08:24 PM
i think the brine motive is very under rated
laxhero123
08-02-2007, 09:39 PM
over- helix, razer pro 2.0, titan pro, levitation(like the classic though)
under- brine titanium, titan calssic, e3, kryptolyte, proton, vandium, swizzle scandium
shakerlax222225
08-03-2007, 09:09 AM
overrated:
helix+titan pro
underrated: torgue+platinum
MiddieMan05
08-03-2007, 10:39 AM
overrated
head: Evo Pro. So many people thought this was the god of all heads, but it warps like no other and is somewhat flimsy
shaft: Krypto Pro. Really light, but for me it wasn't very durable at all
underrated
head: original Evolution. My favorite head of all time. Perfect stiffness, tremendous durability, and I liked the pinch, but can be pinched a wee bit if need be. And it's only $50, or even less so it's a great price
shaft: Platinum Allow. It's a cheap shaft that gets the job done. Not the lightest, not the strongest, but is durable enough to last a few years and as long as you're not a noodlearm, the weight won't bother you.
NJPrideLax
08-04-2007, 10:18 AM
Shaft-
Overrated- wonderboy
Underrated- F-15
Head-
Overrated- Helix
Underrated- Oracle, people hate it just because it looks strange. and original evo- cheap and the best head there is its just been overshadowed by the pro and 2.0
HawkletLax
08-16-2007, 10:44 PM
overrated: evo pro, answer, k18
my answer warps so easily with the plunger move.
under: stx kannon(only good crankshaft head) and stx alloy2000 the white one. i like the feel
kevidinho
08-16-2007, 10:54 PM
overrated:
helix+titan pro
underrated: torgue+platinum
How are Torques underrated? Everyone knows they are awesome.
I don't think a lot of people know how good Magnum Flip grips are, and I think original Razers are better than any other 2.0/pro/etc.
kevmc310
08-17-2007, 12:14 AM
i agree with kevidinho....i like the original razors better than the 2.0 pro or 2.0
lhslaxer22
08-17-2007, 12:42 AM
Underrated:
Shaft: STX Steel 7000, it is light and this thing is a tank; I've used it all last season and summer league and camps and this thing has tiny scratches but nothing more.
Head: Gait Icon: Awesome if you restring it, it is the best beginner head out there and isn't a horrible choice for experienced players. Also Deuce, this thing has a mad pinch and awesome ball control.
Overrated:
Shaft: Crankshafts.
Head: Asylum, Helix, any crankshaft head.
bubba
08-17-2007, 01:55 AM
overrated:
shaft- all harrows
head- helix
underrated:
shaft- gait gorilla 7000
head: original proton
chubby19
08-17-2007, 01:35 PM
overrated:
Shafts- all harrows and ti's...
Head- helix, e3
underrated:
shaft-klytes
head- proton power
SuperDuper46
08-19-2007, 05:46 PM
Overrated: warrior in general
texlax14
08-21-2007, 09:57 AM
overrated: voyce, a lot of marketing in IL last year and it hasnt even been released yet
underrated:DB 803
veronalax33
08-22-2007, 09:23 PM
overrated:warrior pro series (even though i have a revo pro :P), helix, levitation, sc21 air
underated: evo 2.0, ti22, cyber, kryptolyte, db803
townlax
08-22-2007, 11:43 PM
overated: torque
underated: the savage, mine is a beast
LAgoalie
10-03-2007, 06:26 PM
for anyone that is saying the clutch is overrated, shut it. the clutch is a very solid stick, can you name a stick that is that light and stiff at the same time? probably not. personally, i dont like the brine scoops, im a warrior scoop type guy, but people that usually play with brine sticks love the scoop on the clutch. a stick that i find under-rated is the helix, amazing ball control due to the great pinch, and the scoop is very good as well, stiffness is great. and its light, really light. it works well with any type of pocket, due to the flare up top and the reverse flare at the throat.
SuperDuper46
10-03-2007, 06:40 PM
overrated-answer
warriorpros
and the clutch(everyone ive seen has cracked somewhere)
shafts-the swizzles
wonderboys
Underated-e3
ATXLaxMan
10-03-2007, 07:30 PM
over: warrior (some is good, but price?)
under:
answer
803
av8
icon(would be nice on a cs 2?)
pvlax02
10-03-2007, 07:37 PM
over rated:
evo pro/ kpro
under rated:
answer/cyber/ ignite optra
kevidinho
10-03-2007, 07:37 PM
overated: torque
underated: the savage, mine is a beast
Torque's aren't overrated..the are arguably the most solid head out right now. Light stiff easy to string nice pinch..
Lax4life528
10-06-2007, 11:29 PM
overrated:
heads- Torque(big time), razer, x2, helix
shafts- titan pro, titan classic, levitation, kryptolite, crankshafts
underrated:
heads- Clutch, Answer, revo pro, proton power
shafts- ScTi, wonder boy, ignite optra
EHSLAX12
10-07-2007, 12:33 AM
overrated - kpro, diamond, helix, clutch, proton power (although theyre awesome to string....)
underrated - wonderboy, e3, cyber, profile, klyte, TRITON
hurst022
10-07-2007, 12:52 AM
brine extreme is underrated
Lax4life528
10-07-2007, 09:29 AM
overrated - kpro, diamond, helix, clutch, proton power (although theyre awesome to string....)
underrated - wonderboy, e3, cyber, profile, klyte, TRITON
agreed, the triton is incredibly underrated, its like the torque, but with a little more support on the sidewalls. It was the head i learned to play with.
overated:
head-helix
shaft-kpros
underated:
head:triton and profile
shaft:warrior platinums
UNCLax12
10-07-2007, 11:56 AM
overrated
-crankshafts
-kpros
underrated
-vanadium grip
-scandium air
annapolislaxer1
11-02-2007, 05:05 PM
Overrated- Crankshafts they dent and they don't speed up your shot at all
x3 it looks bad (especially if you dye it) not to mention it breaks in the cold if you touch it. They're also too stiff. (I also heard there is a curse on them)
Underrated- Pulse no one ever talks about it and the back sidewall thing is cool Vapor it is really flexible and a good overall head
Scandium shafts are really good as well
Over:
Heads: Clutch, Stiffi, Duece.
Shafts: Wonderboy, SC+TI, Warrior Titaniums (I still love them)
Under:
Heads: Answer (Its a freaking clutch), Motive, Profile
Shafts: Kyrptolite, Vandium
veronalax33
11-02-2007, 07:16 PM
Over:
Heads: Clutch, Stiffi, Duece.
Shafts: Wonderboy, SC+TI, Warrior Titaniums (I still love them)
Under:
Heads: Answer (Its a freaking clutch), Motive, Profile
Shafts: Kyrptolite, Vandium
How on earth can you say that the answer is a clutch?? last time i checked, its one of the most, if not the most, flexible head on the market...the clutch is pretty stiff...
orynos
11-02-2007, 07:41 PM
warrior titan pro.... i have it and it's strong but very heavy compared to some shafts.
its actually heavier than some d-poles.
oviedolax
11-02-2007, 07:46 PM
over-not sure
under- arrow- used it for a while and its amazing, great pinch
Because the deminsions are the same, sidewalls are very similar, and weigh similar amounts. Yes the clutch is pretty stiff, but after playing with one for a few games I've found that its just like the answer. Mine got soft. I should have saved myself the 30 bucks.
HRLAXER
11-03-2007, 03:26 AM
over: revo pro
under: revolution
ima revolution man
annapolislaxer1
11-03-2007, 11:50 AM
the x3 is probably the worst head ever
VTLaxFan
11-03-2007, 11:53 AM
overrated-answer
underrated- brine ripper