View Full Version : Hardest position to make?
Wooks
07-13-2007, 09:04 PM
What's the hardest position to make? I want to play attack, but I'm afraid a lot of other kids will want to play this as well, and will be trying out for it. Do I have a better chance trying out for Middie? Defense? Goalie (I'm actually too wussy to play this but I'm gonna put it in the poll anyways)?
I am NOT asking what is the hardest position to play, so please don't even mention that.
Edit: Oopsies... Mods could you put this in the Highschool forum?
tiplax
07-13-2007, 09:07 PM
middies statisticaly are the easiest position to make the team as. only cause the team takes more middies than any other position
goalie is the hardest to make cause most eams carry 4 tops
so attack or d would be your best bet
playwithpride14
07-13-2007, 09:10 PM
I voted middie by mistake, but i think attack. Middies don't really have to go against d-poles all that much, where attack have to have really good stick work. I'd say go for middie.
Sik Laxer
07-13-2007, 09:12 PM
im going to go with goalie
you have to be a great leader in order to be a goalie
laxobsessed
07-13-2007, 09:15 PM
ya middi would be one of the easier ones to make because you dont need insane dodging skills like attackmen plus middies are the largest majority on a team. attack and dmen are in the same area because you need specified skill in both areas and the aren't needed in large numbers. and the hardest position would be goalie because you need to have experience in calling the defense and skill and finesse in saving those shots and at most a team should have 2 or 3.
Atwatwaw
07-13-2007, 09:18 PM
i's say attack, because teams usually only take like six attackmen and lots of kids want to be the ones making the plays. now that i think about it, if there are more guys competing for the same spot, goalie might be the hardest. you really have to work at being a good goalie and you also have to be the team leader.
Auburn10
07-13-2007, 09:43 PM
I don't really think there is one position that is "harder" everyone has to be very skilled in one position I guess, just because there are more midfielders doesnt make it any easier to be one... every position is hard in its own way
Cburylax
07-13-2007, 09:47 PM
moved per request
Sir_Jimmy_Page
07-14-2007, 01:16 PM
there's only 4 goalies max (usually only 2 from my experience) and only one plays as a starter, so even without the skill factor its the hardest to make
there are more middies than any other position, so its the easiest to make regardless of skill
wglax14
07-14-2007, 01:26 PM
i think middie is the hardest because since the team takes more middies than any other position, there is usually a lot more people trying out for it. At our summer camp we got like 20+ people who want to be a middie, and only like 8 d-poles and 2 or 3 lines of attack.
LiquidMercury16
07-14-2007, 01:41 PM
Definitely attack. Everyone seems to want to try out for it and it requires the best stick skills. I'd say usually 20+ attack tryout and than you have like 10-15 middies try out and maybe 8 poles or so. All middies really want to be attack and be the one with the huge amount of points. At least that's what I've come to realize. I play pole and just an outside observer for all this though so what do I know.
EricL
07-14-2007, 02:05 PM
Theres so many posts in here saying how hard it is even when you requested it not be that kind of thread lol.....
I think it depends on the team. If there is a lack of middies and you try out for that team, you would most likely make middie if you wanted to be middie. If its like for a team where everyone is very good, I would say goalie is very hard to make, you might have a bad day and not save anything for a try-out, while for middies/attack/defense you can show off your stick skills and agility and they could still accept you for that even if you don't score. Also each goalie is EXTREMELY different. Every goalie has a different stance and each works for their own so its very hard to differentiate which one is better.
LiquidMercury16
07-14-2007, 03:05 PM
Honestly how hard it is to play and the ability to make the position go hand in hand. Because a certain position is hardest to play it can be hardest to make it into.
Wooks
07-14-2007, 05:53 PM
Honestly how hard it is to play and the ability to make the position go hand in hand. Because a certain position is hardest to play it can be hardest to make it into.
I just didn't want people to argue about which position is "best"
LiquidMercury16
07-14-2007, 06:18 PM
I don't think it's turning into a flame war about which is best, I mean I play defense and LSM and I fully admit that attack requires the most techncial skill to play and is probably the hardest position to make.
faceofflax15
07-14-2007, 06:34 PM
Middie requires a lot of skill, and as for us not getting the Dpole, think again. I can't name a game this year, where I didn't get the un-lucky pleasures of having the LSM, or a Dpole come up and play me. So, its hard postioning to make if theres good players competing for it.
I'd say, Goalie. I really would.
Wooks
07-14-2007, 09:24 PM
I don't think it's turning into a flame war about which is best, I mean I play defense and LSM and I fully admit that attack requires the most techncial skill to play and is probably the hardest position to make.
I put that thing in there at the beginning, I'm glad it hasn't turned into a flamebattle.
And I'm curious; is LSM much different playwise than just a normal middie? Or is it just pretty much playing the same way but with a pole.
thepalehorse
07-14-2007, 09:26 PM
its a toss up at all points. probally middie because you need to play offense and defense, lots of endurance. the flip side is that alot of teams have alot of middies so i dont know.
lax4life6
07-14-2007, 11:12 PM
Attack. You have to be able to do anything a middie can do offensively, but do it with a dpole guarding you. Not to mention most teams only play 3 or 4 attack so its also one of the hardest positions to get playing time for also.
I would say Goalie but there is less Goalies trying out for a team than Attack.
LiquidMercury16
07-15-2007, 12:50 AM
I put that thing in there at the beginning, I'm glad it hasn't turned into a flamebattle.
And I'm curious; is LSM much different playwise than just a normal middie? Or is it just pretty much playing the same way but with a pole.
I'd say it's definitely different than playing regular middie. And different than playing close D. Honestly, as LSM I am way more defensive minded than when I am shortie. While a shorties goal is to get a goal, mine is to get the ball and get rid of it. I get the ball, dump it, and get off. I take my pride from othe hits and the groundballs I get. LSM is different than close D because I do have the occasional offensive mind and alot faster than any close D. I get to run the field and the occasional chance at goal.
D4LIFE
07-16-2007, 08:10 PM
i cant beleive that defense has the least votes!!! how can people say its easier than middy when like 10 middy's get into like every game!!! plus everyone wants to beat people to pulp with a 6 foot pole at those big football schools with 1/3 to 1/2 football players on the team that cant pass or catch (everywhere but east coast i guess...).
Irishlax22
07-16-2007, 08:15 PM
Attack. Most team play there 3 best attackmen the whole game. If your that 4th or 5th attackmen, you will probably get no playing time what so ever.
baseballsucks
07-16-2007, 08:36 PM
yeah where i live i start and our second string attack got like 2-3 minutes of playing time or less a game. I sat on the bench probably once a game for about 30 seconds, and the only reason the second string had that much was because another starting attackman got hurt in the beginning of the season so my coach had to resort to the second string for the rest of the season. Which was bad and good for the team because they got alot of practice from playing in the games but was also bad because none of them were like the other hurt starting attackman.
i voted attack because you have to be able to consistently shoot and pass left and right handed, you have to have very good field sense, you have to be smart while playing. know how to take your time, and you have to do all of that with a d-man right up on you at all times.
LaxDman62
07-16-2007, 08:51 PM
I said goalie because there are few and you have to be the better out of the two or more to play.
laxforlifex47
07-16-2007, 08:52 PM
they are all hard. i've played defense all my life, and in games if you don't make the slide and level the guy you are risking a shot.. so its pretty hard..
and goalie has alot of pressure, and if they score you have to be able to shake it off and use your anger to make them pay for that goal. But midfield is alot of running, and the team depends on you. you have to do offense and defense.
personally, i think attack is easy, when the middies are tired they get put on offense so they can still try and shoot, but they don't have to run, attackmen are like cherrypickers
ML_LAX09
07-16-2007, 08:53 PM
Goalie is the hardest, by far. Unless your the only goalie...
NHlax23
07-16-2007, 09:42 PM
I'd say goalie is the hardest too, but at my school jv team d is the hardest because we have like 11 people trying out for d. It sucks for me cause im d as well
BurnSomeRope
07-16-2007, 09:53 PM
i'd have to say goalie - There's only 1 goalie, and unless your owning you don't sub out.
It also depends on how many of what position you have, you can have 5 attack and 12 middies, so obviously middie will be a harder position to make.
Tehb2
07-18-2007, 10:58 PM
This is a good thread with a good question. Really gets one thinking. I chose goalie, and really it was pretty close between goalie and attack. I play attack, but thats not why it was close.
Middie is alittle easier because each team needs around 3 lines minimum, even if 2 are the major players, so there is a fair amount of opportunity there. Also, with some of the more strict styles there's also room for offensive middies, defensive middies, and faceoff specialists.
Defensemen don't have an easy job, but its a position that even players with little experience can earn a spot in because of size, aggressiveness, and other things that may be able to help with their lack of skill.
Now attack is a purely offensive specialist, and you can't just throw people into that spot, and there aren't many spots available for anyone trying to get on as an attackman. Just because someone is an attackmen doesn't mean he is good, but most coaches are going to try and get the best they can out of who they can choose for attack, since that position should be the backbone of the offense, and be doing alot of get the ball into the goal in one way or another.
Goalie, my choice, I thought would fit right since only the best of the choice of goalies will really play the game; at higher levels. Backups may only get on once in a blue moon, so there is alot of pressure on the players and the coach to do their best in either playing the position or selecting the best player. There is little room for error, and only the ones who do the best at the tryouts will get a spot that only holds a few players.
QPLax11
07-19-2007, 01:53 AM
Defensemen don't have an easy job, but its a position that even players with little experience can earn a spot in because of size, aggressiveness, and other things that may be able to help with their lack of skill.
To be good at defense, you do need skill. So dont say they lack it. Size helps, but its thinking and reacting to someone. Its not like you get to make them react like at attack, you react to them.
But really, it depends on your team. Starting off, middies would be the easiest cuz there are so many lines. It depends on which you are trying to go for, like the developing team if you have one, or varsity. It depends on which players have established themselves at a position, and which are a lock to start. Cuz, over here, our entire varsity is returning, and attack and defense are stacked with plenty of subs. So middie would be the easiest to sneak in you wanted to try varsity with us, just for example. So, if youre going for the developing team, ask around what others are doing. Consider your size, if youre big for your age defense or attack would probably be best. Attack will take time to perfect skills, so if you have the dedication, go with that.
But, i would say goalie just cuz only one on the field at a time, so worse odds.
Tehb2
08-31-2007, 11:51 PM
I didn't say they would be good even if they lack skill, and I didn't say defensemen don't have skills. But the things I stated (size, aggressiveness, etc) can help out a player who DOES lack skills, but has the other traits, make a lacrosse team. The coach might like the guy, think he's a good, athletic, physical player, and put him on the team because of those other traits.
When I say skill I mean stick skills. Great defensemen have good stick skills plus alot of the other stuff. I've seen a really good defenseman who couldn't check the best, but he was smart and athletic and strong enough to keep his man 1 on 1 from getting into a good position to dodge and shoot at the cage. He was the shut down dpole for the opposing teams best offensive player.
aquinasgoal16
09-05-2007, 05:53 PM
id say goalie bcuz every1 can use a short pole not every1 can handle 80 or 90 mph shots taken on them
and a goalie stick is the toughest stick on the field to handle
LAgoalie
11-23-2007, 10:08 PM
goalie is the hardest because each team doesnt need tons of goalies, 2 or three usually. and also lots of kids quit goalie after long, so its a touch position to stick with. middie is easy because teams always have spots for more midfielders.
muddawgsgoalie
11-24-2007, 01:19 PM
i Say goalie
THE_1protector
11-24-2007, 04:19 PM
def goalie. you have to be extremely vocal, focused, and be able to take charge of your defenders. attack is second cause of the stickwork and explosiveness needed
manup5183
11-24-2007, 05:59 PM
I was a former Norcal Vail FO/mid and now play goalie at a pretty high level here in cali. Dont get me wrong, all positions are tough and require different skills but here is my list for hardest to easiest.
The hardest position to make and then get playing time is goalie. I am currently competing with an older goalie for a varsity spot and it is very challenging, one off day and people will immediately decide who they think is better. To get a starting spot you must be on your best whenever coaches are watching you. That is showing leadership, being vocal, and of course, making saves. Who ever makes the starting spot is the goalie who will be playing the entire game. Its much like two QB's competing for a spot.
The next difficult position would be attack just because the skill that coaches expect out of the attack men, they are going to put in there top three guys the entire game guaranteed.
Defense is next. I need my best poles out on the field for as long as possible. The reason i put this under attack is because it does not require as much practice as attack. In attack you need to be a savage with your stick. On D you need size, footwork, speed, and you need to check, still hard but easier to learn than dodges, shooting, ball protection, ect, ect.
If I was in your position, assuming you play on an organized high school team where there is no guaranteed playing time. I would try out for middie. It is still a very hard position but the big difference is that middies get tired and need to sub out.
If you know that you are in the top 3 in any of the positions your interested for though, then go for it.