Ga Lacrosse

[Beta26]

Who was the best goalie in the state this year, all things included? Regular Season, Playoffs, all that Jazz. Dont use the All State teams for comparison, either, because that is all subjective, pollitcal BS.

Best at each position is better.

(Standard)
Goalie: Hostetler (Milton), don't focus on the team's record...focus on his caliber of play. Flood (Pope) had a better season, but Ben is IMHO the best. Perrett (Lovett) was adequate, but just because you're on the best team...doesn't mean you're the best goalie. Just as being on the worst team, doesn't mean you're the worst keeper.

Defender: Soto (Pope), not because of his on-ball defense...but because of his slides, ball-handling ability and other intangibles that go unnoticed because everyone only notices takeaway checks. Georgekakos (HIES) played great position-defense...but wasn't a game changer in all regards.

Midfielder: Kupcewicz (Harrison), college-level skilled....with sub par caliber coaching. Imagine if he was on Lovett. Mostowy (Alpharetta) was smart, Reed (Milton) was strong, Lamie (Lassiter) can be the best next year if he's controlled correctly.

Attack: Owen Green (Lovett), attack is about controlling the offense, finishing and making things happen...and he's got it. A nightmare to deal with on or off ball for an opposing team. Lukens (HIES) was great 1on1...but any team that slid well and set up shop, rendered him ineffective. Bender (Roswell) was the smartest, even knowing when to get himself out of the way if he wasn't on. Kenary (Milton)...lots of potential...needs some confidence.



And for the random awards...
Most Underperformed: Lassiter, Milton
Biggest Surprise: McIntosh
Most Improved: Sprayberry
"Uh oh": Hooch
Worst Fans/Parents: Lassiter...don't even get me started.
Most Caring Coach: Muetzel (McIntosh)
Best Game of the Year: Lovett/McIntosh Championship

[Statman]

what was going on on Lassiter's backfield Tusday night? I could not stop to see who was playing.
Summer league JV games, Lassiter-vs-Pope, Pope-vs-Roswell, then Roswell-vs- Trojans. This was last night of a summer season (see LHS website for the schedule), where both future JV and Varsity squads were playing games versus area schools inlcuding Milton and some others. Started in early June but over as of last night.

Fall leagues are next.

[dc8rlax]

I have a suggestion for you H.S. guys who want to get better against better competition. Find a fall *mens* league. YMCA will have one. Find out if they have age restrictions.

After playing in doublestixx this year, I'm more convinced than ever this is the best thing you guys can do to get better.

The men's leagues have guys who continued to play past H.S. For the most part they have a better understanding of the brains part of the game and can really make you pay on offense or defense for being one dimensional. D can't ball watch. O can't stand still.

If you play well against ex-college players (even club guys) you will have more confidence against 99% of the H.S. players.

[loganlax]

well I suggest they play football or hoops instead.
Do not become a lacrosse player only. Players are getting way too specialized. Watched the UA Senior All Star- just about every kid was also a all state football or hoops star. Players down here would be better served NOT playing lacrosse 24/7/365. They tend to get locked in to a position or a style of play. Bringing the smarts of other sports would help them more. Believe it or not, you can put the stick down for a few months and actually improve your game.

Beta- not a bad re-cap. My only disagreement- game of the year. The championship game was boring. A ton of turn overs, bad play overall. The ending was exciting, but not the game.

Both semi's were MUCH better!

[dc8rlax]

loganlax... you are right. Kids shouldn't be specialists. I also agree that putting down the stick can help. I know it helped me at some points.

I meant it for the fall league kids, or the football players that want to play sometimes. The fall leagues have their place, but the top players should be playing against better players (men).

[Beta26]

Beta- not a bad re-cap. My only disagreement- game of the year. The championship game was boring. A ton of turn overs, bad play overall. The ending was exciting, but not the game.

Both semi's were MUCH better!

I wasn't at the game, I was just assuming from the play by play over the phone in OT :sad:, oh well.

Lassiter/Lovett playoff was a GREAT game.

[Quijibo]

I have a suggestion for you H.S. guys who want to get better against better competition. Find a fall *mens* league. YMCA will have one. Find out if they have age restrictions.

After playing in doublestixx this year, I'm more convinced than ever this is the best thing you guys can do to get better.

The men's leagues have guys who continued to play past H.S. For the most part they have a better understanding of the brains part of the game and can really make you pay on offense or defense for being one dimensional. D can't ball watch. O can't stand still.

If you play well against ex-college players (even club guys) you will have more confidence against 99% of the H.S. players.

Forget the level of competition at Doublestixx, just driving through that part of town in the middle of a bad night will make a man out of you.

Well, that and the second job you'll have to get to pay for the gas it takes to get to their middle of nowhere location.

[whslax09]

[QUOTE=Beta26;1611889]Ok, here are the new regions for the upcoming year.

It's all about who makes the playoffs...and without too much area reassigning...it won't change much.

Minus the Alpharetta/Milton/Roswell region...which is a huge mistake in my opinion...but what would I know. Area 4 behind Northview is pretty weak and there's a big chance of a Gwinnett school to make the postseason IMHO.
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Beta, I agree with you for the most part. When I looked at each Area a couple of weeks ago, I looked at potential “3rd Place” teams that could upset a region. For example, in Area 1, I’ll give Whitewater a very small chance of pulling the upset and stealing a playoff spot from either McI or Starr’s.

Area 2. I think Pius slides a little, but it’s still a two team Area.

Area 3. I’m not closing the door on BT or HI doing something remarkable and stealing a spot.

Area 4. Not sure I’d characterize as weak, but agree that after Northview the scenery changes. I like Wesleyan over Hooch and won’t rule out the Gwinnett teams yet.

Area 5. Woodward gets better (loosing 3 Srs?) and doubt KM could challenge for a playoff spot

Area 6. Really unfortunate for all. 8 teams in this area (when some have only 6) and with one exception the biggest disparity of “haves and have nots”. The bottom 4 teams will probably finish in the bottom 10% of the state. Despite Alpha loosing 12 Srs, I won’t count out their coaching. SF could upset one of the top 3 but doubtful they can make the playoffs.

Area 7. I had Lassiter and Etowah (even with the loss of Srs) with Spray a solid third until I saw them play this weekend. They’ll need to play much better to pull the 2 spot but definitely possible.

Area 8. Have to include Walton in this conversation as the strongest “third” in any Area. I'd like to see them play Roswell this year - should be a good game.


I also agree with most of these predictions. I go to whitewater and i feel we could be a good contender for that #2 seed in area 1. Starr's Mill lost almost all of their starters and will be interesting to see next year.

[lax_royalty]

I have a suggestion for you H.S. guys who want to get better against better competition. Find a fall *mens* league. YMCA will have one. Find out if they have age restrictions.

Here's some info for YMCA lax fall league: http://www.ymcalax.com/Master%20Pages%20920/Fall%20Master.html

Looks like it's K-12.

As for playing other sports: It's important to be a good athlete, and granted, other sports can give you that extra bit of athleticism. However, fall ball is one of the best things you can do for yourself as a player, especially if you hardly touch your stick over the summer which a lot of kids don't. And if you do play other sports in your off season, sometimes your coach doesn't allow you to participate in fall ball anyway. If you play other sports, don't just put your stick in a corner for the off season. Make sure you're still practicing if you don't play in fall or winter leagues or else your game will be off in the spring.

[dc8rlax]

Looks like it's K-12.

There is a men's league too. This is the summer version. http://www.ymcalax.com/Master%20Pages%20920/Summer%20Adult%20League%20%20Master.html

I see it says something about 25 and older... so that idea looks busted

[Run-DMC]

Please delete :)

[Bexican 408]

Well when they do things like fire the coach who built that program from nothing...it shows there's not a lot going on upstairs.

But then again, schools and parents are extremely lacrosse-educated, as are their wondrous comments which bellow from the stands during games.

Ya, firing our coach was stupid. The administration has no idea what Mike Muetzel did for our program and it will remain that way i guess. But I just graduated and have no say nor am i affected by the decision but still, Its a bad one. Thanks McIntosh Administration :thumbsup:

[spartanlax]

I'm a Coach out in Texas looking to take our team on a Spring Break Trip and I hear Georgia in the Atlanta area might be a good place to go. How's lacrosse out in Georgia? What teams should we look to play?

[Run-DMC]

Georgia is an excellent place to find some great competition.

Lassiter
Lovett
Westminster
McIntosh
Milton
Alpharetta
Pope
St. Pius X

These tre just a few teams that would provide an excellent challenge.

[spartanlax]

I appreciate your help. I've heard very good things about Georgia and I think it would be a fun place to come play. Any idea when the normal spring break up in that area is?

[Run-DMC]

First week of April usually. We all have heard great things about Texas. I actually played against a travel team from Texas in the last tournament I went to.

[laxshooter18]

[QUOTE=Socrates;1612041]


I also agree with most of these predictions. I go to whitewater and i feel we could be a good contender for that #2 seed in area 1. Starr's Mill lost almost all of their starters and will be interesting to see next year.

I saw Whitewater play this past weekend and if their performance at the GA Games is any indication, they won't be going to the playoffs next year.

[Laxnuthin']

[QUOTE=whslax09;1643452]

I saw Whitewater play this past weekend and if their performance at the GA Games is any indication, they won't be going to the playoffs next year.

ditto on that laxshooter18. I saw them too and a team was beating them like 10 to 1 and the ref ended up calling off the game because one of ww's longpoles just whacked a kid on the other team real hard for no reason. he wasn't even anywhere near the ball and it was such poor form and so dirty nobody could believe it. unsportsmanlike junk like that needs to be coached out of players. I heard ww had been doing stuff like that all day and the refs thought the other team was going to clean their clocks for it.

[whslax09]

haha yeah no one wanted to be at that tournament. But you think about it..those were all select travel teams there besides sprayberry plus we didnt have all of our team there. but yeah no one wanted to play in that tournament but our coach had already signed us up awhile before so we just decided whatever

[ny2galax37]

Georgia is an excellent place to find some great competition.

Lassiter
Lovett
Westminster
McIntosh
Milton
Alpharetta
Pope
St. Pius X

These tre just a few teams that would provide an excellent challenge.


Roswell is very young and will likely have an off year, but they are a class act and would be an excellent host, with a cozy, newly sodded grass lacrosse complex. Their proximity to and close affiliation with Lassiter, Alpharetta, Milton, Pius, Northview and Pope could make for an interesting tournament-type situation.

[ny2galax37]

Ya, firing our coach was stupid. The administration has no idea what Mike Muetzel did for our program and it will remain that way i guess. But I just graduated and have no say nor am i affected by the decision but still, Its a bad one. Thanks McIntosh Administration :thumbsup:

A sad loss for McIntosh for sure. Mike, who in his passion to continually build the program, allegedly just got on the wrong side of some people in administration who don't "get it."

[laxshooter18]

haha yeah no one wanted to be at that tournament. But you think about it..those were all select travel teams there besides sprayberry plus we didnt have all of our team there. but yeah no one wanted to play in that tournament but our coach had already signed us up awhile before so we just decided whatever

"haha" - so it's funny that a player on your team would intentionally and maliciously attack a player on the other team because 1) the team was better than you or 2) you didn't want to be there? Please tell me someone at Whitewater has some class - maybe the players who weren't there?

[MLAXUS11]

Can you guys take my survey about HS Lacrosse? If you do, you will be entered for a chance to win some lacrosse apparel.
Thanks!

http://www.zoomerang.com/Survey/?p=WEB2282BWR684M

[TrojanHorse]

Can someone report this tool to admin. LaxForum's are for posting relevant information about lacrosse not some survey crap.

I hope your kids grow hooves:hot:

[Statman]

I'm a Coach out in Texas looking to take our team on a Spring Break Trip and I hear Georgia in the Atlanta area might be a good place to go. How's lacrosse out in Georgia? What teams should we look to play?

Check this one website out> http://llbc.readyhosting.com/ The northern suburbs has public schools> Lassiter, Pope, Roswell, Walton, Milton, Alpharetta, Northview and more in close proximity of each other, 30 minutes from downtown.

You've also got a group of private schools closer to downtown Atlanta that would be good competition>Lovett, Westminster, Pace, St. Pius, Holy Innocents.

[whslax09]

no i don't think its funny he did that. i just say haha a lot. But that was our youngest player that did that and he got a stearn talking to and i think he has learned his lesson. And yes i will admit the teams were obviously better than us there because they were stacked try-out teams. We were just some varsity and jv players that were in town that weekend. But to restate what i said before i definitely did not find it funny nor right that he did that

[Run-DMC]

Can you guys take my survey about HS Lacrosse? If you do, you will be entered for a chance to win some lacrosse apparel.
Thanks!

http://www.zoomerang.com/Survey/?p=WEB2282BWR684M

No. I wont take your survey.

[laxshooter18]

I'm a Coach out in Texas looking to take our team on a Spring Break Trip and I hear Georgia in the Atlanta area might be a good place to go. How's lacrosse out in Georgia? What teams should we look to play?

Coach,

Check out this link - http://www.georgialax.com/

On the left side you'll see a list of contacts for all the programs in the state. Regardless of who you contact, they'll be able to assist in setting up some competitive and/or challenging games.

I spent some time in SA growing up. Has lacrosse made it that far South?

Good Luck!

[FLHTI]

well I suggest they play football or hoops instead.
Do not become a lacrosse player only. Players are getting way too specialized. Watched the UA Senior All Star- just about every kid was also a all state football or hoops star. Players down here would be better served NOT playing lacrosse 24/7/365. They tend to get locked in to a position or a style of play. Bringing the smarts of other sports would help them more. Believe it or not, you can put the stick down for a few months and actually improve your game.

Beta- not a bad re-cap. My only disagreement- game of the year. The championship game was boring. A ton of turn overs, bad play overall. The ending was exciting, but not the game.

Both semi's were MUCH better!

loganlax: I'm wondering if you actually watched BOTH semi's since they happened to occur on the same day?

Disregard; I see that you based your opinion on a telephone updates.

[FLHTI]

A sad loss for McIntosh for sure. Mike, who in his passion to continually build the program, allegedly just got on the wrong side of some people in administration who don't "get it."

Regarding building a program: Are we talking about the same coach who was hard over against starting a JV program? How is that building a program? Maybe the administration gets more than some people think.

[Beta26]

Regarding building a program: Are we talking about the same coach who was hard over against starting a JV program? How is that building a program? Maybe the administration gets more than some people think.

Coach,

There's good and bad reasons for any/every decision that is made regarding a program...as I am sure you are well aware.

[TrojanHorse]

I'm so glad DoubleStixx have now gotten their fields at Northview. Way to go DS

Who is playing...PS I believe they are going to have unlimited water, ice and trainers:naughty::naughty:

[spartanlax]

Coach,

Check out this link - http://www.georgialax.com/

On the left side you'll see a list of contacts for all the programs in the state. Regardless of who you contact, they'll be able to assist in setting up some competitive and/or challenging games.

I spent some time in SA growing up. Has lacrosse made it that far South?

Good Luck!

There are some teams popping up in San Antonio but currently they are still grouped with Austin. It's definitely getting bigger in the state though. I grew up here in Austin and played in high school and than A&M. There are a lot of high schools popping up every year with it. I appreciate the help.

[spartanlax]

I appreciate the help guys, deciding between GA or a tourmanament in Cocoa Beach, but either way thanks.

[FLHTI]

Coach,

There's good and bad reasons for any/every decision that is made regarding a program...as I am sure you are well aware.

Beta,

Sometimes that is the case; but I don't know of any bad reasons for having a JV team as it relates to building an overall program with longevity.

You seem to have some insight or opinion regarding that situation maybe you can expand.......

[Beta26]

I do not have an inside perspective on the McIn situation.

(opinion)
But if you're referring to possible reason why not to add a JV team yet...then yes...reasons exist. Adding a JV team is HUGE step for a program. However...it can hurt a team also. If a team doesn't have sufficient numbers to do so...a single 30 player team is most likely better than two, 15 player teams. If there exists a majority of underclassman starters/producers that wouldn't be able to play enough JV for there to be sufficient numbers, don't forget there's a 6 quarters policy in terms of how much you can play in a day. A player cannot play in every quarter of each game. Yes, they'd get plenty of experience and all..but it's not that easy.

This is just an opinion on a reason I could see not adding a JV team. The same logic applies to wards adding a 9th grade team if both already exist. Which not many teams in the state have (<15%), whereas almost every school (>90%) have varsity and JV teams with over 20-30 players on each.

[laxshooter18]

I do not have an inside perspective on the McIn situation.

(opinion)
But if you're referring to possible reason why not to add a JV team yet...then yes...reasons exist. Adding a JV team is HUGE step for a program. However...it can hurt a team also. If a team doesn't have sufficient numbers to do so...a single 30 player team is most likely better than two, 15 player teams. If there exists a majority of underclassman starters/producers that wouldn't be able to play enough JV for there to be sufficient numbers, don't forget there's a 6 quarters policy in terms of how much you can play in a day. A player cannot play in every quarter of each game. Yes, they'd get plenty of experience and all..but it's not that easy.

This is just an opinion on a reason I could see not adding a JV team. The same logic applies to wards adding a 9th grade team if both already exist. Which not many teams in the state have (<15%), whereas almost every school (>90%) have varsity and JV teams with over 20-30 players on each.


Just want to correct one item. The 6 quarters policy that you quote is for football. Lacrosse is 18 games - V or JV, the whole game or 1 second, doesn't matter.

[FLHTI]

I do not have an inside perspective on the McIn situation.

(opinion)
But if you're referring to possible reason why not to add a JV team yet...then yes...reasons exist. Adding a JV team is HUGE step for a program. However...it can hurt a team also. If a team doesn't have sufficient numbers to do so...a single 30 player team is most likely better than two, 15 player teams. If there exists a majority of underclassman starters/producers that wouldn't be able to play enough JV for there to be sufficient numbers, don't forget there's a 6 quarters policy in terms of how much you can play in a day. A player cannot play in every quarter of each game. Yes, they'd get plenty of experience and all..but it's not that easy.

This is just an opinion on a reason I could see not adding a JV team. The same logic applies to wards adding a 9th grade team if both already exist. Which not many teams in the state have (<15%), whereas almost every school (>90%) have varsity and JV teams with over 20-30 players on each.

Laxshooter: you are correct regarding GHSA lacrosse limits.

Beta: As a result of the 18 game limit even if a team ended up shy on the numbers and as a result you carry about 35 players and make it a combined Varsity/JV. By limiting the number of total Games for each player you could be getting the players that rarely see game time lots of quality game experience at the level they should be playing, with some exceptions.
GHSA does not prohibit a combined Varsity/JV team. Only limits 18 games per player during the regular season. (playoffs don't count)

The combined Varsity/JV would only be a back up plan if enough of the younger/newer players did not show up to make 2 complete teams. Out of 30-35 players if right 10 players stayed out of the game it would be easily manageable with a slightly reduced schedule. (Not the exact same 10 every time)

With the ability to exectue that kind of contingency plan I think that early expansion is the way to go regarding JV. I feel different regarding a seperate 9th grade team mainly because as you mention there are very few of them in the state right now.

"if you build it they will come" ---Field of Dreams

Of course that is just my opinion... Thanks for sharing your thoughts on the topic even though we seem to disagree

[Statman]

Just want to correct one item. The 6 quarters policy that you quote is for football. Lacrosse is 18 games - V or JV, the whole game or 1 second, doesn't matter.

How did some teams play 20+ games in 2008? Is there a spring break rule, or 18 versus GA teams?

[Lt.Bradford]

The teams that played 20 were in the playoffs

[Laxdad1]

will someone update us on how the Ga teams did in the Ga Games and how Team Ga. does in the tournament this weekend. Thanks

[Socrates]

will someone update us on how the Ga teams did in the Ga Games and how Team Ga. does in the tournament this weekend. Thanks

I think here's who played in GA Games; don't know where Whitewater fits in:

High School Division:

Heroes – Roswell, GA
Sandsharks – Tampa, FL
Knights – Fayetteville, GA
Sprayberry – Marietta, GA
Copperheads – Atlanta, GA
Trident Gold – Marietta, GA
Trident Blue – Marietta, GA
Trident White – Marietta, GA

U15:
Sandsharks – Tampa, FL
Northview - Atlanta, GA
North Fulton – Atlanta, GA
Trident – Marietta, GA

U13:
East Cobb – Marietta, GA
Atlanta Crush – Atlanta, GA
Team Georgia – Atlanta, GA
Knights – Atlanta, GA
Northview – Atlanta, GA

[Beta26]

Laxshooter: you are correct regarding GHSA lacrosse limits.

Beta: As a result of the 18 game limit even if a team ended up shy on the numbers and as a result you carry about 35 players and make it a combined Varsity/JV. By limiting the number of total Games for each player you could be getting the players that rarely see game time lots of quality game experience at the level they should be playing, with some exceptions.
GHSA does not prohibit a combined Varsity/JV team. Only limits 18 games per player during the regular season. (playoffs don't count)

The combined Varsity/JV would only be a back up plan if enough of the younger/newer players did not show up to make 2 complete teams. Out of 30-35 players if right 10 players stayed out of the game it would be easily manageable with a slightly reduced schedule. (Not the exact same 10 every time)

It all boils down to the fact that on paper...things look a completely different way than it does when it involves 30 high school students come game time. That's a gamble that a lot of parents/admins wouldn't like to see with their kids.

People can Monday Morning QB McIntosh all they want...it just looks ridiculous for anyone to hindsight-judge the cinderella story of 2008 that lost in the state championships in OT, and the man that built that program.

[Bexican 408]

Well, I broke my foot in the State Champ game and now its finally healed up so I'm looking for a league i can jump in maybe or wait until the fall.

Does anyone suggest any leagues in particular? By the way, I'll be living in Atlanta going to Georgia State.

[Laxnuthin']

I think here's who played in GA Games; don't know where Whitewater fits in:

High School Division:

Heroes – Roswell, GA
Sandsharks – Tampa, FL
Knights – Fayetteville, GA
Sprayberry – Marietta, GA
Copperheads – Atlanta, GA
Trident Gold – Marietta, GA
Trident Blue – Marietta, GA
Trident White – Marietta, GA

U15:
Sandsharks – Tampa, FL
Northview - Atlanta, GA
North Fulton – Atlanta, GA
Trident – Marietta, GA

U13:
East Cobb – Marietta, GA
Atlanta Crush – Atlanta, GA
Team Georgia – Atlanta, GA
Knights – Atlanta, GA
Northview – Atlanta, GA

Whitewater played in the HS division, cont'd in the post below.

[Laxnuthin']

Whitewater played in the HS division.

& here are the results off the GG website, the columns don't line up under the headings but they're in that order:
Gold Silver Bronze

U13 East Cobb Thunder Team Georgia Atlanta Crush



U15 Trident Vegas Northview North Fulton



HS Trident White Trident Gold Trident Blue

[laxshooter18]

& here are the results off the GG website, the columns don't line up under the headings but they're in that order:
Gold Silver Bronze

U13 East Cobb Thunder Team Georgia Atlanta Crush



U15 Trident Vegas Northview North Fulton



HS Trident White Trident Gold Trident Blue

What happened to Copperheads and Heros in HS Division?

[Beta26]

Well, I broke my foot in the State Champ game and now its finally healed up so I'm looking for a league i can jump in maybe or wait until the fall.

Does anyone suggest any leagues in particular? By the way, I'll be living in Atlanta going to Georgia State.

There might be a Buckhead fall men's league at the YMCA.

And GaState has a club team, I am pretty sure.

[Who Cares?]

Does anybody have an idea about the Middle School Feeder programs in the Sandy Springs area? I know Roswell, Blessed Trinity, Cenntenial and a few others but what about Riverwood, HEIS, etc. I have heard that Dunwoody is going to have a High School program, are they planning on having a Middle School Feeder? Nibb High Football Rules.

[Beta26]

Does anybody have an idea about the Middle School Feeder programs in the Sandy Springs area? I know Roswell, Blessed Trinity, Cenntenial and a few others but what about Riverwood, HEIS, etc. I have heard that Dunwoody is going to have a High School program, are they planning on having a Middle School Feeder? Nibb High Football Rules.

Yes, there is going to be a Sandy Springs middle school program coming about soon with kids from that area.

[Middie009]

So who does everyone think are the best summer teams in georgia?( in order)

[Who Cares?]

That is the reason why I was asking. I was wondering if Riverwood and any of the other surrounding teams had a feeder program because if not, Sandy Springs could recruit some of those kids to play on their team. Also, I was curious as to which local teams they could play as apposed to going up to alpharetta and cobb.

[Laxdad1]

Does anyone know how Team Ga did in the tournament this past weekend?

[TrojanHorse]

Does anyone (other then the players) really care about Team GA

The best players don't even play on it anymore and the guy that runs it is a idiot

[Laxdad1]

Does anyone (other then the players) really care about Team GA

The best players don't even play on it anymore and the guy that runs it is a idiot

It's just that I know some of the players. What team were you on?

[BigLaxDummy]

12 games in 4 days - Team Ga had a winning record and represented Georgia in fine fashion. Many of the same players represented Atlanta at the adidas National Classic and will again this weekend at The Pepper Classic in Syracuse. If all the local travel teams play this well in what ever event they attend - Georgia Lacrosse stock will continue to rise. Don't throw your "brothers to the curb".

[TrojanHorse]

Lax Dummy,

Sorry I should not have said what I did. I was not trying to throw anyonme to the curb. an i am glad they had a winning record.

I do know since my cousin was on team ga a few years back that the talent was better. Which Team would you rather have

2005
Jerome Arnold (Milton), Tyler Bradshaw (Lassiter), Tim Buchmiller (The Lovett School), Austin Colpini (McCallie), Gordon Corsetti (Pace Academy), Dan Crabtree (Walton), Matt Cranshaw (Westminster), Tyler Cross (The Lovett School), Bobby Doval (Lassiter), Foster Durkee (Westminster), Ben Ewing (Pace Academy), Steve Getty (Northview), Andy Halperin (Riverwood), Neil Hicks (The Lovett School), Tom Jackson (McCallie), Bob Johnsen (Alpharetta), Kevin Kirkwood (Chattahoochee), Brenden Lentchner (Etowah), Jeff Lentz (Lassiter), Billy Lewandowski (Milton), Matt Matheny (Wesleyan), Chris Palmer (The Lovett School), David Perrin (Westminster), Johnny Schumacher (Wesleyan), Jay Simonton (Wesleyan), and Jason Van Epps (Roswell); and
This Team is filled with multiple all-state and all-american players

Take a look at the Team GA Roster now. Does anyone even believe any kid on that team will be all american other then Bowling or Fulton. Oh and i still think their coach is an idiot:bye:

[mxmuetzel]

Beta,

Sometimes that is the case; but I don't know of any bad reasons for having a JV team as it relates to building an overall program with longevity.

You seem to have some insight or opinion regarding that situation maybe you can expand.......

Maybe I can help, I truly appreciate the interest regarding my positions when I was the Coach at McIntosh. I received an email from a player about this mis-perception on my feelings regarding JV. When we started our program and struggled four years ago, we were responsible for all aspects of the lacrosse program, coaches, fields, administration, and even budgets...

For our first few years we did not have dedicated practice facilities for Varsity, (actually in year 1 we shared a single field for practice with the girls also practicing every day, and only had a half field, and that field did not have lights and practice started at 5:15 pm), and only myself and a school coach representative.

My hesitancy in starting the JV program in our first few years was, lack of full time coaches, not only potential Lay Coaches, as well as a 'School" Coach, and no facilities or fields available for practice. Our Boosters worked extremely hard talking to all the elementary schools in the area for three years, just to find the marginal field the teams used this season for practice and paid to have it rough graded with some limited seed. It is perhaps the weakest practice field in the state, but at least in yr 4, we had our own practice field, and with that began a JV program.

The alternative in the first 3 years, was to have the younger players play in the NGLL League coached by my friend Pete Cramblet and great lacrosse coach , (Lacrosse Hall of Famer). I may have been wrong in my judgement but it was not a matter of being against a JV Program, in my opinion just a better scenario for the kids, as the NGLL Team was able to use Peachtree City Rec fields for a facility and get dedicated high-quality coaching. Rather than have the JV players in a new program be considered 'second-hand' program.

In our fourth year we progressed to a true JV Team. Again without a dedicated JV Field Coach or dedicated JV Field. Our JV players (even in our fourth yr) practiced from 7 pm to 9 pm in cold weather in the dark in early months on a field that had no lights, except for two small banks of rental lights our Boosters were kind enough to rent for a month until daylight savings time. Not only myself and school Coach Tom, but occasionally our Lay Coaches with a dedicated parent-teacher JV Coach (Coach Cathy) stayed from 5-9pm, every night for the three month season to make the JV program a reality. We all coached both teams for practice and games (many scheduled in round robin Saturday times instead of being in 2 places at the same time), in essence doubling our pure time for practice and weekends we invested in coaching our kids over the previous seasons... and the kids improved dramatically as the JV Team, I believe finished with a single loss. We were all so impressed as they never complained and worked hard. There is no question in my mind that to be considered a long-term quality program we needed a JV Team, and perhaps we or I went about it the wrong way, but is was with the best intentions of the kids and the success of the program at heart, I hope this helps answer the questions...

Mike Muetzel

[ny2galax37]

...hence Beta26's award for Most Caring Coach! Keep the faith, Mike.

[Laxdad1]

Team Georgia did very well. After talking to some of the players, I understand they went a respectable 7/3. Losing to two Long Island teams and sudden death to a Delaware team. Good job guys.

[Run-DMC]

Laxdad, it was a win on two Long Island teams, and the Braveheart was against one of them.

TrojanHorse, watch yourself. Dont trash the coach, you ont know enough about who he is and what he does for the program. I suggest you keep quiet champ. The team is filled with all american caliber players and a 7-3 record at Hotbeds shows it.

Dont hate, appreciate.

[westymid]

Does anyone have any knowledge about the returning top teams? How is Lassiter, Milton, Alpharetta and Lovett going to look? I hear Lovett lost their goalie and have a recent attackmen getting the starting spot; I personally think they have run out of luck.

[Big Stick]

I think that of the returning teams, Milton and Lovett will be at the top, followed closely by Lassiter and McIntosh. And then Pope, Northview, Pius, Westminster will all be in the mix. I heard Walton might be good, too, they didn't lose a lot and had a respectable season last year.

I think during fallball we will start to see the top teams emerge, but the season isn't until Spring, so we won't know for sure until then.

[TrojanHorse]

This post is for thoughts so if you don't agree with everything you don't really need all the bravado retorts.

As I said my cousin was on the team and if you watched any lacrosse over the last 5 years you can't match the same teams up and think this years team has more talent. I guess I will wait two years before I post to show you how wrong you are.

PS - my cousin said the guy is a foul mouthed jerk

You most play on the team or are realted to him.

I am real glad they did well

[lax_royalty]

TrojanHorse, watch yourself. Dont trash the coach, you ont know enough about who he is and what he does for the program. I suggest you keep quiet champ. The team is filled with all american caliber players and a 7-3 record at Hotbeds shows it.

Dont hate, appreciate.

And you, sir, don't know what people know about him. By what he does for the program do you mean not getting fields for fall league? Could you clarify what he does? Bagataway is falling apart and everyone knows it. I used to play for them when the Corsetti's ran it, but it's a completely different program now. It's certainly not one that I (or my friends) would like to be a part of. I know the coach, and well, I won't get into that. But everyone's entitled to their own opinion, so there ya have it.

[Run-DMC]

I just don't think trashing him does anything to help. And yes, everyone has their own opinion, and I respect yours.

[Run-DMC]

Delete this

[LaxDadToo]

I heard there was a tournament of select teams at Walton yesterday, and some college coaches were there. Anyone know anything about it?

[doublelax]

He sure knows how to seed a tournament in his favor. Although if you beat his team, you take over his seed

[doublelax]

I heard there was a tournament of select teams at Walton yesterday, and some college coaches were there. Anyone know anything about it?
Yea, Georgia Select dominated. If I remember correctly, it was mostly Walton & Harrison kids. All rising seniors.

[Run-DMC]

How did Shockers do?

[doublelax]

Who are the Shockers?

[TrojanHorse]

MR. DMC - check your facts. Team GA went 4-4 umlike your email that says they went 7-3 unless they went to two different tournaments?

Dont hate, appreciate.[/QUOTE]

A Div Wins Losses B Div Wins Losses
1 Florida 8 0 1 Bulldog Red 8 0
2 Ward Melville 5 3 2 Team Hills 7 1
3 Sting Black 6 2 3 LI Storm 6 2
4 West Rock 5 3 4 PaTomahawks 5 3
5 NJ Lacrosse Club 5 3 5 Chesapeake Elite 5 3
6 Raptors 5 3 6 SMS Navy 5 3
7 Lizzards 4 4 7 NESLL-Scorpion 4 4
8 Ct Seahawks 2 6 8 IAS 3 5
9 Pleasantville 2 6 9 Old North State 2 6
10 Baldwin 2 6 10 Sting White 2 6
11 LI Express East 1 7 11 Team Indiana 1 6
12 SMS Carolina 0 8 12 LI Express West 1 7


C Div Wins Losses D Div Wins Losses
1 Team Central 7 1 1 MesaFresh 2010 8 0
2 LI Pride A 7 1 1 NED 8 0
3 Minn Elite 7 1 3 LI Pride B 6 2
4 Episcopal 6 2 5 Green Turtle 5 3
5 Sting Gold 4 4 4 Team 302 5 3
6 Bulldog White 4 4 7 Black Bear 3 5
7 LI Tomahawks 4 4 6 Wash Starz 3 4
8 Team Georgia 4 4 9 Braves 1 7
9 Howard Elite 3 5 8 Ct Lax 1 7
10 Independent A 3 5 10 Sting Yellow 0 8
11 Ocean State 0 8
12 Team 302 White 0 8

[Big Stick]

Mr. Trojan Horse, I played in the tournament myself, so I can assure you that there is an error.

Besides, we played ten games, so that doesn't even make sense.

We lost to team Central on the first night, Episcopal on the second game of the second day, and LI Pride A on the second game of the third day.

[TrojanHorse]

Mr. Trojan Horse, I played in the tournament myself, so I can assure you that there is an error.

Besides, we played ten games, so that doesn't even make sense.

We lost to team Central on the first night, Episcopal on the second game of the second day, and LI Pride A on the second game of the third day.

Good for you...thanks for clearing it up

[BigLaxDummy]

GA Select defeated Shockers soundly, up 5 or 6 goals at one point, won by 3 if memory servers. Shockers are basically hand picked Pace, Lovett, HIES, Lassiter, Westminster with a few others sprinkled in...organized by Gannon, Souza and Buczek. Shockers hadn't played together since June, Ga Select has played 2 events this month.

[Run-DMC]

[QUOTE=TrojanHorse;1672671]MR. DMC - check your facts. Team GA went 4-4 umlike your email that says they went 7-3 unless they went to two different tournaments?

They didnt do anything right on the website, I suppose because there were like 40 teams lol.
I played in it with Big Stick.

Losses to:
Episcopal
Team Central by one
LI Pride by one

On game vs. Team Independent was rained out.

Wins against
Ocean State
Howard Elite
LI Tomahawks in Braveheart OT
LI Sting
Bulldog Elite
Team 302
SMS Charlotte

[Sack Attack]

That was a sort of bootleg Shockers team.. A lot of players couldn't play because of football.

[doublelax]

That was a sort of bootleg Shockers team.. A lot of players couldn't play because of football.

They must go by a different name, I don't recall seeing a Shocker team?

[TPRU]

I think the Shockers played as "Atlanta Select" on Sunday in the Walton Tournament.

I would not call the Shockers team that played a bootleg team. Almost all of the regular team was there, including most of the "big" names.

In the summer it is hard to always be at 100%, even GA Select had a few alternates on their team Sunday.

It was a good game and both teams showed some real talent.

All of the feedback from the tournament was very positive. It will return next year at a different time (earlier in the summer) with more teams and with many more coaches in attendance.

[Who Cares?]

Of all the club teams, which ones are going to actually be a threat in 09'? Collins Hill and Peachtree Ridge are coming into one of the easier divisions with only one team being above .500 (Northview). Are the Gwinnetians going to do anything? I can't see the club level being that competitive. Collins Hill went 8-0 last year, but I doubt they will see the same success moving forward.

Inquiring minds would like to know.

[farside]

Of all the club teams, which ones are going to actually be a threat in 09'? Collins Hill and Peachtree Ridge are coming into one of the easier divisions with only one team being above .500 (Northview). Are the Gwinnetians going to do anything? I can't see the club level being that competitive. Collins Hill went 8-0 last year, but I doubt they will see the same success moving forward.

Inquiring minds would like to know.

Peachtree Ridge should do ok they have some athletes. Even thought the Club league is a glorified JV league there are some athletes playing.

GAC I watched this year and they at least could pass and catch and they were a brand new Varsity team after playing a year of JV.

Most of the teams were south of the Airport but I think most of them are going GHSA. So who knows if there will even be a club league any more with more and more GHSA teams joining ever year.

[Sack Attack]

GAC is hardly a second year team. They had a JV team for 3 or 4 years before they started Varsity last year.

[farside]

GAC is hardly a second year team. They had a JV team for 3 or 4 years before they started Varsity last year.

I thought GAC played a year of Varsity. Thanks for the update. They looked ok when I watched them.:worship:

[Beta26]

GAC was JV in 2006 and 2007. They were varsity in 2008.

[Who Cares?]

Anyone that is looking for a middle school program or knows someone looking for a middle school team in the Sandy Springs/Dunwoody area, go to www.sandyspringslax.com and send in your contact info. I know this is a "high school forum" even though everyone in here is a parent or a coach or a 14 year old kid that "can't wait to try out for Varsity", but I thought that I would just shoot that info out there anyways.

Nibb High Football Rules

[naderlax23]

Honestly i wasn't really all that impressed with most of the teams in the walton tournament. There were certainly some good players but it was nothing like what i've been used to from georgia. I was on the team tennessee and we got to the finals with 13 people. We literally had the lower middle class players and still beat team georgia. I guess they were in football and couldn't play.

[BigLaxDummy]

congrats on the event, Georgia Select clearly had been playing together recently. I heard the North ATL Select team was the younger Team Ga U16 team with several guest players, the youngest team at this event and hadn't played together since Warrior Southern Sizzle. Not that it matters, last minute lax fun before school starts.

[kevLAXpro]

all right enough with these summer tourny's, Next year, top 4,
Lassiter
Milton
Lovett
McIntosh
any thoughts

[GAlacrosse]

If you wanna be a cop out and a *****, then yeah. Thats a safe bet. Just take the top 4 from the past 10 years in GA lacrosse. Freakin OTP trash

[Run-DMC]

all right enough with these summer tourny's, Next year, top 4,
Lassiter
Milton
Lovett
McIntosh
any thoughts

Care to explain why?

[kevLAXpro]

well lassiter is gonna have a very good year so no one can count them out; milton is in the same boat as lassiter, having a strong senior line and a good goalie, the only thing i can see holding them back is that they are easy to defend (call me crazy); i dont know too much about Lovett's middies and attack but i know they have some all state quality players putting the ball in the back of the net, they lost that goalie that kept us away from a state championship last year; Even after losing Zach Ward to McCallie, mcintosh has a very strong senior middie core and a young, but skilled defense,

[ATLredgoalie55]

It's too early for me to go that deep, but i'll give it a shot.

1. Milton- hostetler's a baller, kenary's cannon. they just need to work out the kinks.

2. Lovett- Owen will be back and Stuart Dodd's will probably get more recognition this year. He lit me up last year when we played lovett and i seemed to hardly ever hear his name.

I can't clearly define who could be next but i'll widely throw a curveball:

3. Harrison
4. Westminster
5. Walton or Pope- The game between these two can easily go either way

[GAmc9]

Yea, Georgia Select dominated. If I remember correctly, it was mostly Walton & Harrison kids. All rising seniors.

Im on GA select and our team consists of players from mainly harrison, pope, and walton with a few from milton and mcintosh. Not everyone on the team were actually rising seniors. Im pretty sure we had a couple rising juniors. But overall GA select was awesome. Extremely laid back team that worked well with only a few practices together.

Preciate coach pritts

[Who Cares?]

We were dropping on the High school page so I thought that i would post something.

I dont see Harrison making a deep run in the playoffs. They come from a weak division and their record is a bit misleading.

Walton will not get the edge on Pope and Lovett will be the number one in that division.

And I think Westminster is a shoe in in a weak division.

I am curious to see Area 1 and Area 2, I do not know anything about those teams.

Area 4 is a toss up between any of those teams. Collins Hill may even jump into the post season if Wesleyan and Northview dont step it up. Northview has a new coach, an able coach, but a new coach non the less so i guess we will see with them.

Milton and Roswell are a lock. Alpharetta had a fluke season even though they were undefeated. I can see that team having issues in the coming seasons. South Forsyth is going to rise up to be a power house in that division in a few short seasons.

As for a final four? I'm not even going to try. I would like to see Roswell get there some day. They have a great system set up and they seem to fall short every year.

[ATLredgoalie55]

gamc9 you act like you played for the team...:bull:

[JamLax]

Alpharetta had a fluke season even though they were undefeated.

They had a legit schedule playing every top team in GA and you are gonna say that they were lucky not to loose? I dont know about the upcoming season but their 08 seniors carried them as they were deep, talented, and had played together for awhile.

[Who Cares?]

Alpharetta played in a relatively weak division last year. Notable wins

Westminster by 1
Roswell by 1
Walton by 1
Milton by 2
Harrison by 3
Lovett by 3

That shows quality coaching. I heard that they are losing close to 20 guys? How do you make up for something like that? Next year they have to beat out Milton and Roswell for the playoffs. Not gonna happen. Not after losing 20 seniors. Im sure that they will clean up the rest of that division. But third isnt going to get them back to the playoffs.

Nibb High Football Rules

[farside]

Alpharetta played in a relatively weak division last year. Notable wins

Westminster by 1
Roswell by 1
Walton by 1
Milton by 2
Harrison by 3
Lovett by 3

That shows quality coaching. I heard that they are losing close to 20 guys? How do you make up for something like that? Next year they have to beat out Milton and Roswell for the playoffs. Not gonna happen. Not after losing 20 seniors. Im sure that they will clean up the rest of that division. But third isnt going to get them back to the playoffs.

Nibb High Football Rules

Who does Rowell have coming back next year. Weren't they very senior laden. Here are my picks for next year. Let the fun begin:guns:

AREA 1
McIntosh
Whitewater

AREA 2
Decatur
St. Pius

AREA 3
Pace Academy
Westminster

AREA 4
Northview
Wesleyan
Maybe Peachtree Ridge

AREA 5
Harrison
Kennesaw Mountain

AREA 6
Alpharetta
Milton
Maybe Roswell
AREA 7
Etowah
Lassiter

AREA 8
Lovett
Pope
Maybe Walton

[Who Cares?]

Everyone talks about the best of the best next season. I've got a real question, who is going to be the worst of the worst. Who is going to pull themselves out of the lower positions of each division?

I have already stated that I think South Forsyth is going to start moving towards the head of the pack. Maybe not next year but soon. Their feeder program is ridiculous. Those kids remind me of the Hawks from the Mighty Ducks. They shoot better than highschool kids.

Area 4 is going to get shuffled around. There are some well established teams in that division that are heading for a major down slope due to coaching issues and the split up of certain schools.

I have no clue what happened to Darlington. They used to beat the crap out of everybody except for Lovett and Westminster.

I think some of the lower teams in Area 3 are going to make that division a little more competitive. HIES, Westminster, and Pace will keep that division locked down but it won't be as easy.

Is anybody going to follow with some trash talk? I want to hear what people have to say about the bad teams and what their expectations are.

[Kr3wLaxUno]

Hey does anyone know is Cumings (I hope thats the name) has a lacrosse team because one of my friends moved down there years ago and i heard that he is playing lax

[Run-DMC]

Alpharetta played in a relatively weak division last year. Notable wins

Westminster by 1
Roswell by 1
Walton by 1
Milton by 2
Harrison by 3
Lovett by 3

That shows quality coaching. I heard that they are losing close to 20 guys? How do you make up for something like that? Next year they have to beat out Milton and Roswell for the playoffs. Not gonna happen. Not after losing 20 seniors. Im sure that they will clean up the rest of that division. But third isnt going to get them back to the playoffs.

Nibb High Football Rules

I believe it is 12, not 20.

[Middie07]

my top 4
1. Lovett- you cant argue with only 2 lost starters from their state championship team.
2. Milton- Best goalie, and possibly best attackmen in the state along with a lot more senior talent.
3. Harrison- All attack returning, 2 defenders, and goalie along with a few very strong middies.
4. Lassiter- Very strong midfield, but the defense and goalie will be the biggest question. Should make a good run for state though.

[roosterlax]

idk but since im going to pope next year im going to have to say that our team will be unbelievable within the next 2-3 years. For 1 season the Frost brothers will be together and dominate the field hands down. But they just lost a lot of good players

[kevLAXpro]

i know why everyone is counting mcintosh out but just hear me. u cant deny that we have one of the best face off-run-score guys georgia has ever seen in brennan ott/two of the fastest, most accurate shots in nicco derosa and caleb benson and a deep and strong goalie line. i know everyone thinks that we have a bad defense, but its young and talented

[laxbra990]

nobody cares

[ATLredgoalie55]

without coach mike it's going to be hard to get someone in the peachtree city area that actually has a good amount of lacrosse knowledge.

[calc1454]

Frist of all kevLAXpro Brandon Ott is good at faceoffs sure but i am pretty sure Brad Mustowy was a better face off and run and score guy. And who is better than all them is the face off guy for pace back in '05 and '06 i think that in '06 or '05 he won about 90% of his faceoffs. And zach ward was the best player on yalls team easily. And yall lost him. Only thing i would have to say is that he will be a lot better at McCallie cuz he will be surrounded by real good players, not just some good players like at McIntosh. And just cuz you say peoples names doesnt mean that we know who they are and if they will be good or not.

1- Milton down fall is ben hosteteler, kevin, and TJ those kids r really not that good.
2 - Lovett down fall owen green. he is very over rated
3 - Harrison down fall is brock, the goalie. he is not very good
4 - Lassiter down fall is Griffin. He needs to step his game up

[naderlax23]

Frist of all kevLAXpro Brandon Ott is good at faceoffs sure but i am pretty sure Brad Mustowy was a better face off and run and score guy. And who is better than all them is the face off guy for pace back in '05 and '06 i think that in '06 or '05 he won about 90% of his faceoffs. And zach ward was the best player on yalls team easily. And yall lost him. Only thing i would have to say is that he will be a lot better at McCallie cuz he will be surrounded by real good players, not just some good players like at McIntosh. And just cuz you say peoples names doesnt mean that we know who they are and if they will be good or not.

1- Milton down fall is ben hosteteler, kevin, and TJ those kids r really not that good.
2 - Lovett down fall owen green. he is very over rated
3 - Harrison down fall is brock, the goalie. he is not very good
4 - Lassiter down fall is Griffin. He needs to step his game up

Lassiter's downfall is their lack of team intensity and everyone but Griffin. I'd say that he's easily the best player in the state, and if anything his teammates need to step their game up so that he won't have to carry all the weight.

[Run-DMC]

Frist of all kevLAXpro Brandon Ott is good at faceoffs sure but i am pretty sure Brad Mustowy was a better face off and run and score guy. And who is better than all them is the face off guy for pace back in '05 and '06 i think that in '06 or '05 he won about 90% of his faceoffs. And zach ward was the best player on yalls team easily. And yall lost him. Only thing i would have to say is that he will be a lot better at McCallie cuz he will be surrounded by real good players, not just some good players like at McIntosh. And just cuz you say peoples names doesnt mean that we know who they are and if they will be good or not.

1- Milton down fall is ben hosteteler, kevin, and TJ those kids r really not that good.
2 - Lovett down fall owen green. he is very over rated
3 - Harrison down fall is brock, the goalie. he is not very good
4 - Lassiter down fall is Griffin. He needs to step his game up

Coach Danowski doesn't seem to think so.

[Who Cares?]

Hey, does anybody have a schedule for fall ball games, uh, this fall? Not rec league, but high school teams that will be playing some games?

And in response to the post above me, its great Atl is on the radar for recruiting.

Nibb High Football Rules.

[TrojanHorse]

Hey, does anybody have a schedule for fall ball games, uh, this fall? Not rec league, but high school teams that will be playing some games?

And in response to the post above me, its great Atl is on the radar for recruiting.

Nibb High Football Rules.

No info on HS League Schedule on web sites yet

www.doublstixxlacrosse.com
www.ymcalax.com

ATL has been on the Radar for the last 5 years
Notre Dame, Yale, Penn, W&L, Hampton Sydney, PC, Ohio Wesleyan, Gettysburg, Lynchburg not to mention UGA, Tech, Auburn etc

Not bad lacrosse for the Southern Teams

[Who Cares?]

One kid from Lovett went/ goes to Notre Dame. And all of those other schools are DIII or MCLA, or is it called "Championship Bowl Sub Division Series/ League". (that was a football reference/ joke)

You know what I mean. A legit Division I power house school acknowledging athletes from our area is pretty impressive. If its true. That's all I'm saying.

I was just talking about how awesome it would be to have Rivals for lacrosse. That way we could compare our local talent to the National pool of athletes.

Somebody ought to start looking into that. Could end up making a career out of talking BS on some message boards. We already do that for free!

[calc1454]

1- Milton down fall is ben hosteteler, kevin, and TJ those kids r really not that good.
2 - Lovett down fall owen green. he is very over rated
3 - Harrison down fall is brock, the goalie. he is not very good
4 - Lassiter down fall is Griffin. He needs to step his game up


ha god dang yall are bad at cathcing sarcasm.

[Run-DMC]

Might wanna use the sarcasm meter, a number at the end of your post---> (10) is the most sarcastic, (1) is least.

[AROE]

which teams are playing in the bagataway league?

[laxlaxlaxlax4]

Wow
Looking at some of your predictions for the Roswell, Alpharetta, Milton region (region 4?), I can't help but to think you are missing out on another team. Look for South Forsyth to be powerful this year. With Roswell and Alpharetta losing a bunch of key players, the opportunities for South opens up. South only lost about 3 seniors last year. My question, is why is no one thinking that south has a chance at making playoffs?

[laxshooter18]

Wow
Looking at some of your predictions for the Roswell, Alpharetta, Milton region (region 4?), I can't help but to think you are missing out on another team. Look for South Forsyth to be powerful this year. With Roswell and Alpharetta losing a bunch of key players, the opportunities for South opens up. South only lost about 3 seniors last year. My question, is why is no one thinking that south has a chance at making playoffs?

You're kidding - right? Name one playoff team SF has EVER beaten. Want some help?

You have to prove it on the field, and SF has not done that.

[laxlaxlaxlax4]

they haven't but they were a young team

[Sack Attack]

While the opportunity might be there, I feel like the gap is still too big between Milton/Roswell/Alpha and SF to make a significant difference.

[Who Cares?]

Let this be known, I have zero affiliation and a little bit of disdain for South Forsyth, but laxlax is half right. They won't make a run for the playoffs this year, but in the next couple of seasons, when their middle school guys get some high school experience and a little more athleticism, they will be dangerous. That feeder program is one of the best that I have seen. They may be a little over competitive at the middle school level, but that talent will be transferring over to the high school soon. I definitely see them being a power house. This isn't the first time that I have said this either.

Some organizations take their feeder programs to an entirely different level.

At age 13, do you play to win or do you play for "fun"? As a coach do you play your best 12 or give everyone a chance? Time will tell.

There are two different styles of lacrosse here in Atlanta. South Forsyth plays at a very competitive level at a young age.

Is it about growth or is it about W's?

[ny2galax37]

Let this be known, I have zero affiliation and a little bit of disdain for South Forsyth, but laxlax is half right. They won't make a run for the playoffs this year, but in the next couple of seasons, when their middle school guys get some high school experience and a little more athleticism, they will be dangerous. That feeder program is one of the best that I have seen. They may be a little over competitive at the middle school level, but that talent will be transferring over to the high school soon. I definitely see them being a power house. This isn't the first time that I have said this either.

Some organizations take their feeder programs to an entirely different level.

At age 13, do you play to win or do you play for "fun"? As a coach do you play your best 12 or give everyone a chance? Time will tell.

There are two different styles of lacrosse here in Atlanta. South Forsyth plays at a very competitive level at a young age.

Is it about growth or is it about W's?

Rich Wehman and Co. have built a powerhouse feeder team in So. Forsyth, but as I understand it, at least 50% of those boys are being redistricted to the new high school, Lambert, which I understand will also be coached by Wehman.

[TrojanHorse]

which teams are playing in the bagataway league?
Roswell and alpha and maybe South Forsyth and one of the Gwinnett teams according to web sites

DoubleSticks (Varisity and JV TEAMS)
Lassiter my team
Sprayberry
POPE
KELL
Walton
Westminster
North Cobb
Northview
Hootch
Milton
Centennial
Woodward

YMCA
Grady/Decatur Varsity -- Holy Innocents, Varsity
Lovett JV --- Lovett Varsity
Pace Varisty---Peachtree Ridge Varsity---Riverwood Varsity
St. Pius Varsity--Wesleyan Varsity---Westminster JV

:bull:

[lax_royalty]

So basically the elite of GA Lacrosse is playing YMCA Lax and DoubleStixx instead of Bagataway. I think that speaks volumes for itself.

[Beta26]

So basically the elite of GA Lacrosse is playing YMCA Lax and DoubleStixx instead of Bagataway. I think that speaks volumes for itself.

Until signups are over...it's all speculation really.

I've never seen the Bagataway or YMCA high school leagues...are the more/less organized that DoubleStixx?

[Who Cares?]

Beta, my understanding is that the private schools like to stick to the YMCA league. At least the ones closer in to the city. I heard the Bagataway is not the best and will probably not be able to compete with a competitive fall ball boys league after this year. Or did you tell me that?

Nibb High Football Rules!

[lax_royalty]

Bagataway now is not the same Bagataway it was two years ago. Now it is an unorganized mess. While the website and director say that they have all of those field locations, it is my understanding that it isn't true.

YMCA is one of the most organized leagues around and its location is convenient for pretty much everyone. That's where I'll be, but some of my friends are playing in DoubleStixx. If you haven't signed up for fall ball yet definitely sign up for YMCA or DoubleStixx because you will get a way better experience there than at Bagataway.

[kevLAXpro]

the only teams left at baggataway are McIntosh and Alpharetta

[lax_royalty]

According to their website, apparently there are a lot of schools "represented" in Bagataway's Fall Ball League, but I find it funny because the schools listed like Lovett, Westminster, Alpharetta, Pace, Roswell, Milton, Woodward, etc. are already playing elsewhere meaning that there's probably only one or two players from those schools actually registered. That's a great "representation".

I also find this statement "Southeast’s most convenient, largest, safest, most competitive league" to be severely untrue. And this "Only league to provide full time trainers
Only league to provide a staff of field managers, scorekeepers, and timekeepers
Only league to provide unlimited water and ice for all players" to be absolutely false.

Please check your facts before even thinking of registering for this program.

[I got man!]

lax royalty, you kill me! :chuckle:

[TrojanHorse]

lax royalty, you kill me! :chuckle:

This guy Hannon kills me...first he talks about not having fields because of the drought. Now he says they have unlimited ice and water for players.
What happened to the drought!

Is this not a given when you play a game to have water on the sidelines and ice...i mean come on is that the reason why we play the game.

Lax Royalty is right on the money.

[Beta26]

If they were smart there would be one giant league administered correctly to give the PLAYERS what is deserved, but hey...greed works too I guess.

(Sarcasm 0/10)

[TrojanHorse]

Beta please explain...what do stores have to do with leagues...i don't understand:idea:

[Beta26]

Hahaha, with leagues already mentioning each other on their respective websites...it's only a matter of time.

I'm just saying...when it comes to youth sports...it should be 100% about the players...and nothing else...no exceptions....ever.

[TrojanHorse]

What leagues mention each other? or do you mean when you go on Faceoff website they say bad things about Trident Lacrosse

[Run-DMC]

Ya know what would be solid...

If the leagues in Georgia would start/keep acting as immature as "some" of the stores already do.

Because business ethics are way overrated.

(Sarcasm 10/10)

If they were smart there would be one giant league administered correctly to give the PLAYERS what is deserved, but hey...greed works too I guess.

(Sarcasm 0/10)

I see you have adapted the sarcasm meter :P

[Beta26]

Sarcasm meter is clutch.

Bagataway's website has been changed...so yeah...n/m to that. Just wishing there was more unity in the GA-lacrosse scene overall and less $-signs.

Just noticed that there's a TON of Gwinnett elementary schools on the site...that's really good for the county's growth.

What leagues mention each other? or do you mean when you go on Faceoff website they say bad things about Trident Lacrosse

Haha, that always cracks me up.

[willbail]

I am curious if anyone has moved from MD, NY,VA the hot bed areas for Lacrosse that can enlighten this thread on how fall ball programs are run up there?
I can't imagine that there aren't 5 different Lacrosse Co trying to turn a buck

[ny2galax37]

There is more than enough business to go around. If nothing else, it's a reflection of the growth this area has seen. I don't see how bashing anyone benefits this thread. Grow up and keep your petty beefs to yourselves.

[willbail]

There is more than enough business to go around. If nothing else, it's a reflection of the growth this area has seen. I don't see how bashing anyone benefits this thread. Grow up and keep your petty beefs to yourselves.

I wasn't attempting to bash anyone I just wanted to know if FALL BALL is run differently up north, were it's been around for 15 to 20 plus .

[loganlax]

up north there are just as many people doing the same thing- running leagues as a BUSINESS! That is what the sport has become I hate to say. Up north though the travel teams are viscous! I know some people involved up there and it is very cut throat. We have not gotten that way in terms of travel teams yet, but we are closing in from what I have seen.

Beta I appreciate your sunny happy smiley approach to what these leagues SHOULD be about, but some one has to book fields (which is not easy I am guessing), put their name on the line (insurance, liability, etc), market, hire staff, schedule games, stats?, and everything else involved in running a league. I don't blame them for wanting to turn a dollar for their time and effort- like coaches, refs etc.... It is no different I hate to tell you

[Beta26]

Beta I appreciate your sunny happy smiley approach to what these leagues SHOULD be about...

Thank god you appreciate it! Lets not forget...Georgia is the pinnacle of how youth sports should be operated! (SARCASM 12 out of 10)

Here's the broken down way to look at it, for ease of understanding.

The best product makes the most money (see: iPod) Therefore, what is the best "product" for a league? One that is "run correctly", has plenty of facilities, teams, convenient locations, scorekeepers, refs, etc etc etc? Or one that simply makes the owners the most money?

People would be surprised at what can happen when a company puts the best product out there for the consumer (in this case, the players)...it um...I dunno...sells the most and everyone likes it?

I have not seen every league down here, thus I ask about the Bagataway or YMCA HS leagues. What is the scoop on the leagues down here, because whichever one is the best...needs to be known.

I agree 100% with ny2galax, no one wants to hear personal problems with anyone on an internet message board. Everyone has problems with someone/something in this world...that doesn't mean everyone else cares.

That means if you don't like a league, actually say why without saying something stupid like "Coach SuchAndSuch ist not teh funnay lolz!".

[TrojanHorse]

Great points Logan and Beta. I don't think abyone has a problem with companies or youth programs making money. The points on making money are well taken and it does cost money to run things.

However if it is done in a way where players are treated poorly and parents and players don't get information thats when I have a problem and will vent.

Doublestix, Bagataway, Trident, Soccerbarn, the stores are all making money from the market and Beta is right the best product (IPHONE) will shine through.

My stance on Bagataway has not changed and hopefully this guy will go out of business because he is not a nice person.:angry:

[Who Cares?]

I know some of the guys that run DoubleStixx and YMCA.

I had a lengthy conversation with "someone" from YMCA the other day about youth lacrosse, picking his brain and asking him advise about starting a youth league. He is very adamant about players first. Learning, teaching and coaching the game properly are more important than wins and losses and all stars and "Elite" leagues. I have not played for said coach in about 10 years and I have not been apart of the YMCA program, but I have to think that the players come first over there.

DoubleStixx seems like more of a business to me. I also know a few of the guys over there. I don't think that they are trying to turn a bad product or skees their way into some money by booking bad fields or poorly run programs. They are trying to offer a quality product and by the amount of people that are signed up for the different leagues that they offer, they seem to be doing a good job.

I know nothing of bagataway other than what people have stated here on these message boards. They catch a bad rap. I dont know if its deserved. I personally did not recommend that league to a coach based on what i have heard here. I hope people are posting honest thoughts in this forum. They go a long way. I dont take what i read from here as fact, but i do consider it.

(0/10) I hope this post wasnt too serious, ill leave you with a little nugget.

Nibb High Football Rules!

[gclark94]

I have never played for doublestixx before but I havent heard anything bad about it. Having played for bagataway for one season when they were in Buckhead, I was not impressed. It was pretty unorganized, my parents saind that the guy who ran it was a jerk based on the email conversations they had with him and the competion was not the best. After playing in a summer league at the YMCA, I will never go back ro any other league. It was very organized, Ms. Corsetti was at just about every event, the coaches were nice and after a little bit of fixing it up, the facilities a were great.

Hope this helped.

[lax31115]

And Hannon never returns phone calls. EVER!

[Run-DMC]

And Hannon never returns phone calls. EVER!

http://lacrosseforums.com/showthread.php?t=130358

[LambertLax11]

dude i used to go to South Forsyth High but im gunna be on the lambert high team opening next year....we've got all the best players movin to there

[Beta26]

Post on the new thread...not this one.

http://lacrosseforums.com/showthread.php?t=130358

[TrojanHorse]

And Hannon never returns phone calls. EVER!


And he is a Jackass and D' Bag