Ga Lacrosse

[NElaxer56]

That should have been a 2 goal loss- the first one never went in :-) but it was a great game no less!

[Laxdad1]

McCallie 13 Charlotte Latin 7 in the rain. u--rah turf!!!

[naderlax23]

were you there? if so i'm suprised you stayed through that hurricane to watch two teams from another state play. On the subject of mccallie vs. westminster, James Cupo had 6 goals and an assist. when one guy can dominate every player on the opposing team, sometimes even two of them at once, your chances of winning aren't very good. i'm not sure why people on this forum are suprised when mccallie wins. the only reason that i can think of is that we're young. we have 5 very good sophmores that can stand their own against a lot of GA players. the only person that i've seen in Ga that we can't match is Griff, but i'm not sure that cupo is far behind.

[Laxdad1]

Yes, I returned at 6:30 to see 2 teams that were eager to play. Both coaches wanted their teams to play. Charlotte L. is a good team and would be a good team to play. Pope is going up there on break. The game was close with McCallie going ahead at half by 1/2 goals. Latin has this middie #18 who is "good". They have excellent team speed and play aggressive. Both teams have good D and LPM's that can pass under any kind of pressure. McCallie's scoring was spread around more evenly. I have forgotten which team but, Latin's coach was an assistent coach at a top program up north and you could tell by their style of play. Alot of ya'll know about McCallie's coaches already.
I really can't understand why someone would make an excuse that the team was tired. Good gosh! they played at 5/6 the day before and they're 15-18 yrs old. I have great respect for Westm. and for you to make such a lame excuse denigrates that team, coaches,and the parents. McCallie played at noon and then waited there all day in the rain on a bus and played in the rain.
Lamie, I've heard was considering going to McCallie, and if he had, I could not even imagine what a line that would be. I have to respectfully disagree, however, I think Cupo is a little ahead of Lamie. I have great respect for Lamie and have complimented him many times. His game v. Lovett was one of the best games played by a middie in Ga this year, perhaps in many years. He did the majority of f/o's in that game also.

[keylimepie111]

Solan is by far the most improved. Reads releases on transition very well & gets the ball up field quickly by passing or with speed to burn! And oh, he's stopping well over 60% this year. He too is a major part of the AHS rise to the top.

NElaxer56, good thing we have you on this forum because without you I don't know where I would get my unbiased Alpharetta information from.

[laxshooter18]

NElaxer56, good thing we have you on this forum because without you I don't know where I would get my unbiased Alpharetta information from.

:thumbsup: Man, ain't that the truth!

[ScooPs-33]

Any predictions on this week's upcoming games?

[naderlax23]

haha, i'll tell cupo you said that. but, having known both of them for a number of years, i'd still say that griffin is harder to deal with. while cupo is a wall on defense, griffin is nigh unstoppable from up top. either way, with griffin on our team it would have been lights out. too bad he didn't come. sigh, there's always next year! lol

[rhsgoalie35]

With all the recent talk about goalies, I am inclined to point out the gross lack of credit and recognition that Andrew Flood, Pope's goalie, has received and ask if anybody else agrees with me. He is a dominant goalie, both stopping and clearing the ball, and he serves as the backbone for one of the top teams in the state yet he is rarely mentioned at all when there is discussion about the top-tier goalies in the state. Anyone else see the problem here?

[unclax1]

With all the recent talk about goalies, I am inclined to point out the gross lack of credit and recognition that Andrew Flood, Pope's goalie, has received and ask if anybody else agrees with me. He is a dominant goalie, both stopping and clearing the ball, and he serves as the backbone for one of the top teams in the state yet he is rarely mentioned at all when there is discussion about the top-tier goalies in the state. Anyone else see the problem here?
Clearly a fair point. Ive seen him only once and like new up and coming teams like AHS, he is part if their D's success. Bottom line is they are all good goalies and the playoffs should be good.

[dc8rlax]

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[GAmc9]

Pope vs. HEIS tonight at pope 7 o clock

should be an intense game

[Laxdad1]

Games 3/31-4/5


3/31 Hies@Pope Hies out to prove themselves. Not tonight. Pope

4/1 Alpha@Walton Walton not ready for this team Alpha
4/2 Roswell@Lassiter Lass. has found theemslves, I Hope, Lass.
4/2 SPX@Milton SPX has played OK V. better teams. SPX
4/4 Harrison@SPX not this team, however. Harrison.
4/4 Hies@Lovett After Mon. Lovett all the way
4/5 Pope v Providence Day I'm going with Pope, the Ga.team
4/5 Heis@Westm. Westm. is ready to start winning. Close. Westm.
4/5 Milton@Downington East(PA)Last yr maybe DowningtonEast

All the talk time is over for Hies. Playing their schedule I would not be saying a word. It's tough playing the big boys-They bite!!! Good Luck.
If HIES and SPX want to earn respect, they must win against their tough opponents. Time to put up or u know what. It will be interesting to see how HIES' ex-Lov. coaches do.

[Statman]

Games 3/31-4/5

4/4 Hies@Lovett After Mon. Lovett all the way


I think the Lovett/HIES game is 4/2/08. I also saw Pace/McIntosh on 4/4 as interesting. Spring break also has a few interesting games, with private schools matching up and McCallie/Issaquah coming to town.

[Lax-A-Tive]

Yesterday on Prep Sports they had a segment on Westminster lacrosse. Very nice piece but I had one question. I'm pretty sure they said Westminster has won 3 out of the last 6 state championships. I thought they had only won two state championships and that the time period between those two was more than six years. Did anyone else see this segment. Is Westminster holding themselves out as winning more championships than they have or am I wrong. Please let me know. P.S. All the Westminster players looked like fleshy headed mutants from the forbidden zone.

[Statman]

I think Westminster won state in 2003 and 2007, Lassiter in 2006 and co-champ in 2004 w/Lovett. Lovett>2000, 2001, 2002, 2005 and the tie in 2004.

[farside]

Laxitive they may have mixed it up with the girls Westminster Team which has won 3 state titles

[MRDukks]

"3/31 Hies@Pope Hies out to prove themselves. Not tonight. Pope

4/4 Hies@Lovett After Mon. Lovett all the way

4/5 Heis@Westm. Westm. is ready to start winning. Close. Westm.


All the talk time is over for Hies. Playing their schedule I would not be saying a word. It's tough playing the big boys-They bite!!! Good Luck.
If HIES and SPX want to earn respect, they must win against their tough opponents. Time to put up or u know what. It will be interesting to see how HIES' ex-Lov. coaches do."

The ex-lov coaches have yet to score a goal, make a save or pick-up a ground ball. Maybe they'll suit up this week, but I doubt it.

"All the talk time is over for Hies. Playing their schedule I would not be saying a word." Please point to one post from anyone from HIES where they were "talking" or "saying a word."

Win or lose this week , they haven't been talking near as much as you have.

[MRDukks]

Westminster played in 3 of the last 6, won twice. maybe that is what they meant.

[MRDukks]

Westminster has played in 3 of the last six, winning two ('03 & '07), losing in '02. Fyi, Lovett has played in seven of the past nine, winning 4, tieing one.

Send us a picture of the players from your team so we can judge them for ourselves. I am sure they all look like Mikey Powell.

What will your boys call the gentlemen from Westminster in a few years??

BOSS!!

[kevLAXpro]

if anyone here is on Team Georgia "Red" can you tell me if we're going to a tourney before the team camp.
Por favor, quiero saber.

[Laxdad1]

MRDukks- Try reading "all" the posts. A little sensitive, ya think.

[Laxdad1]

Westminster has played in 3 of the last six, winning two ('03 & '07), losing in '02. Fyi, Lovett has played in seven of the past nine, winning 4, tieing one.

Send us a picture of the players from your team so we can judge them for ourselves. I am sure they all look like Mikey Powell.

What will your boys call the gentlemen from Westminster in a few years??

BOSS!!

U R A POMPOUS A--. You are definitely no gentleman. Your mama never taught you any manners.

[Sack Attack]

U R A POMPOUS A--. You are definitely no gentleman. Your mama never taught you any manners.

Come on laxdad... Control yourself. Keep the posting related to lacrosse.

[stpiuslax08]

U R A POMPOUS A--. You are definitely no gentleman. Your mama never taught you any manners.

Sad as it is Lax Dad, though their team didn't deserve to beat us, on the sidelines all of the Westminster parents were rich and smart. That's how it is at Westminster, they breed intelligence and success.
Also, one of my sons friends said that at the JV game it looked like their goalie (the third string Varsity one who played SPX Alpharetta and Roswell(I think?)) was hurt, meaning that all of their high school goalies have been hurt.
Is there some sort of curse on the team?

[split-to-roll]

Also, one of my sons friends said that at the JV game it looked like their goalie (the third string Varsity one who played SPX Alpharetta and Roswell(I think?)) was hurt, meaning that all of their high school goalies have been hurt.
Is there some sort of curse on the team?

Three goalie injuries???? That is almost unheard of. wow.

Noonan did play for Roswell though and probably had like 25 saves. Triple overtime. Great game.

[Attackalltheway]

Whats up with all the hatin' on HIES and SPX?

[rhslax25]

Three goalie injuries???? That is almost unheard of. wow.

Noonan did play for Roswell though and probably had like 25 saves. Triple overtime. Great game.

Yep, Noonan did play against us.

[dc8rlax]

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[justchillaxin88]

dont hate on the westminster players for some thing that the media said... i doubt that they would tell them incorecct info, the media people have got a million things on their mind and most likely didnt think to check all of their facts... my guess is that he got the girls state record by accident...

does anyone have a link to it online? I would like to see it before i comment on what the west players looked like...:crazy:

[GAlax3]

pope 11 hies 7

[Laxdad1]

Pope 11 Hies 7
Hies up 2/0 when I walked in. Quarter ended HIES 2/1. HIES was up for the game and had more energy. They won most of f/o's and a majority of GBs in the 1st half. Pope was not as sharp as I have seen them. Both goalies played well. #11(Lukens?) played well in the 1st half. Soto lost him a couple of times. HIES defense #32 and #34 played well also. Half Pope 4/3.
Second half the game slowly turned. HIES offense still centered on #11. Pope started winning f/o's and got to more ground balls. They seemed to get more shots. Pope's offense was more balanced and Hies D broke down. Pope pulled away at the 6-7 minute mark of the 4th. Final 11/7. It was a good game. HIES came ready to play.

[dc8rlax]

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[blahblah1234]

HI fought hard and had to lead by 1-2 goals twice. Pope had more speed (which went hand-in-hand) with being better conditioned. someone mentioned to me that York (8) of HI was not full strength. 5 minutes left in 4th quarter: pope holds ball with 2 pt lead, hi pressures but does not slide well enough=4 easy goals in end of game.

[keylimepie111]

Mr. Dukks,i dont know your affiliation with westminster, but you sir show no class at all. I know westminster players and you were accurate to call them gentlemen they certainly are sportsman, and your boss statement while offensive is probably true as well. Everyone knows that westminsters kids do so well not because they are smart, creative, or particularly good at any one thing. They do well because their mommyies and daddies buy them a good life. Lets face it westminister kids are fed from the silver spoon and will have to do nothing for the rest of their lives to be well off. It is a basic truth of life Rich get Richer.

[Sack Attack]

Mr. Dukks,i dont know your affiliation with westminster, but you sir show no class at all. I know westminster players and you were accurate to call them gentlemen they certainly are sportsman, and your boss statement while offensive is probably true as well. Everyone knows that westminsters kids do so well not because they are smart, creative, or particularly good at any one thing. They do well because their mommyies and daddies buy them a good life. Lets face it westminister kids are fed from the silver spoon and will have to do nothing for the rest of their lives to be well off. It is a basic truth of life Rich get Richer.

Not true at all... Let's try to stick to lacrosse guys.

[dc8rlax]

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[rhslax25]

I don't understand what the problem is with having well-to-do parents. So what if their parents have been successful and have the money to send them to a great school such as Westminster? No need to be jealous or put people down because of that...

[ItalyLaxer11]

Mr. Dukks,i dont know your affiliation with westminster, but you sir show no class at all. I know westminster players and you were accurate to call them gentlemen they certainly are sportsman, and your boss statement while offensive is probably true as well. Everyone knows that westminsters kids do so well not because they are smart, creative, or particularly good at any one thing. They do well because their mommyies and daddies buy them a good life. Lets face it westminister kids are fed from the silver spoon and will have to do nothing for the rest of their lives to be well off. It is a basic truth of life Rich get Richer.

wow, that was so friggin offensive. how is it the rich get richer when i'm going to west next year and my dad lived off welfare checks for 16 years of his life? huh? that would make me 1st generation "silverspoon," so i hardly think that qualifies as an example of rich get richer? my dad AND mom work very hard for their money so that I can get a good education in a positive environment, and i strive to make their money well spent. Please, stick to lax discussion, and keep your offensive views of "rich kids" away from this forum

[Alpha15]

can we get back to what this forum is about... lacrosse

[dc8rlax]

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[IronShef]

great point ItalyLaxer. i know a few kids from private schools whose parents buy their way into good colleges, but most are sacrificing other stuff to give their kids a good education. Also, most of the private school kids i know work their a##es off...gotta put that out there

back to lax, Holy innocents was untested before tonight. I wonder if they are four goals worse than pope or if i would've been a bigger blowout had HIES not come so pumped up?

[galax2009]

Yesterday on Prep Sports they had a segment on Westminster lacrosse. Very nice piece but I had one question. I'm pretty sure they said Westminster has won 3 out of the last 6 state championships. I thought they had only won two state championships and that the time period between those two was more than six years. Did anyone else see this segment. Is Westminster holding themselves out as winning more championships than they have or am I wrong. Please let me know. P.S. All the Westminster players looked like fleshy headed mutants from the forbidden zone.

neal, there is no need to be so negative towards westminster. i dont think lovett players look much better

[Laxdad1]

great point ItalyLaxer. i know a few kids from private schools whose parents buy their way into good colleges, but most are sacrificing other stuff to give their kids a good education. Also, most of the private school kids i know work their a##es off...gotta put that out there

back to lax, Holy innocents was untested before tonight. I wonder if they are four goals worse than pope or if i would've been a bigger blowout had HIES not come so pumped up?

I thought Pope came out a little tentative. Early in the game, they did not do much to take Hies out of their early rhythm. They did do a good job not letting Hies jump out ahead to far. Their attack should have played a little tighter defense. Momentum can be a tough thing to stop. You have to give Hies credit, they came to play. Overall, Pope handled it pretty well.

[keylimepie111]

on the back of that comment by keylime I would like quote Tracy Morgan on 30 Rock. "I want to be so rich my grandkids play Lacrosse. Lacrosse, Liz Lemon, Lacrosse."

30 rock is such a good show, I agree no more off topic hate. Lets get back to lax

[Statman]

This is what makes this year's GA Lax so enjoyable. Laxpower 4-9 ranking within .32 power rating of each other.

[Beta26]

With all the recent talk about goalies, I am inclined to point out the gross lack of credit and recognition that Andrew Flood, Pope's goalie, has received and ask if anybody else agrees with me. He is a dominant goalie, both stopping and clearing the ball, and he serves as the backbone for one of the top teams in the state yet he is rarely mentioned at all when there is discussion about the top-tier goalies in the state. Anyone else see the problem here?

Because Pope kids/parents don't come on here and selfishly tout themselves like a LOT of other teams do. Which is a good thing.

I would trust a room full of HS goalies to pick out who is the best of the group than I would a room full of parents. The SAME parents who think defense is about hitting or taking the ball away. The same parents that think offense is about standing still and cranking the ball underhand. And the same parents that think that being a good goalie is the quantity of saves and not the quality of saves. Parent/Homer A is going to vote for Player A, Parent/Homer B for Player B...and so on and so forth until the end of time.

Flood is a fantastic goalie. Minimal mistakes (from what I've seen) and in the only game Pope lost (Lovett)...Flood was facing inside shots from unstoppable angles and still had at least 10 quality saves.

Ben Hostetler is still a first time all state goalie (as he was last year, as a sophomore). He has gotten shelled in a few games in Milton's transitional period this year...but is fundamentally solid in cage and makes tons of stops.

Ben, Flood, Ax, Fraser, Solan...all in the top tier of keeps this year...from what I've seen.

[Laxdad1]

I really do not see alot of posts by players. Rosw., Alpha., Pope, & McIn. A few others occassionally. Most have been respectful and stick to lax. These guys "talk" on the field.
Concerning the brackets this year, it looks like Region(area)3 is going to cause the most problems this year. Who do u think is going to win out? I hope Westm. wins out so we will avoid the possibility of having Lov., Lass., Westm., in the same brackett. Of course, that leads to the chance that Lov/Lass meeting again in the semi and if Westm can make it, a final again of the "TRIUMVIRATE". It's a possibility. I have a feeling that, unless they get a key injury, Alpha will reach the final. Pope also has a even chance of making it. What do U guys think?

[relaxified]

I really do not see alot of posts by players. Rosw., Alpha., Pope, & McIn. A few others occassionally. Most have been respectful and stick to lax. These guys "talk" on the field.
Concerning the brackets this year, it looks like Region(area)3 is going to cause the most problems this year. Who do u think is going to win out? I hope Westm. wins out so we will avoid the possibility of having Lov., Lass., Westm., in the same brackett. Of course, that leads to the chance that Lov/Lass meeting again in the semi and if Westm can make it, a final again of the "TRIUMVIRATE". It's a possibility. I have a feeling that, unless they get a key injury, Alpha will reach the final. Pope also has a even chance of making it. What do U guys think?

Area 3 has three great teams and one will be left out of the playoffs. The same might be said of Area 8, whereas the second place teams in Areas 1 and 5 appear to have a much easier admission ticket. It would stink to be a top ten team and get left out of the playoffs, but overall the system seems to be working and should become more equitable as more teams are added. Another fortunate aspect is that, in Area 8, Pope and Walton play on their last regular season game. Also, the rivalry contests in Area 3 are loaded towards the end of the season. They get to start the playoffs early.

However, the season is still young and there seems to be so much inconsistency that it is hard to get a good read on who will finish strong. Who will show up; the Lassiter that beat Lovett, or the one that was soundly beaten by Milton and Alpharetta? Which Lovett will show up; the one that rolled through Walton, Pace and Pope or the one that lost to Lassiter? Westminster, Roswell, and Milton have all been somewhat inconsistent. McIntosh seems to have only one quality win and it could be argued that Holy Innocents has none. However, Harrison seems to be on the rise.

I think any of the top fourteen teams have a chance. I extended down past number 12 because of Milton. They have beaten Lassiter and Roswell and will probably be a #1 seed.

Personally, I think the top three teams, as ranked by Laxpower, not necessarily in that order, presently have the inside edge for the championship. They all have quality wins and they only have two losses between them against Georgia opponents. Primarily, they seem to be the most consistent of the top tier.:flamed:

[Canadianlax420]

the hillacademy, from ontario son

[farside]

Hats off to Pope - great Win for the Hounds.:thumbsup:

HIES will rebound :bartmoon:

[dc8rlax]

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[Laxdad1]

I really looked at this the other night and came to many if the conclusions u did Relaxified. Alpha. seems to be on such a roll that it's hard to imagine them loosing but, u know lax, what seems to be sometimes may not be. Alpha does have Lov left and may drop one or two games(Issaquah and one to Tenn team) but, then, they may go all the way. Pope can be inconsistent. Pope and SPX play in a few weeks. I agree on Harrison. They could easily make it to the semi. Lassiter will show us if they have solved their problems on Weds. against Roswell. After that they only have to play McCallie, Issaquah, Pope, Walton, and two other games. If they do well and stay healthy, I think they could possibly take the title. If their defense played a solid game, they can match Alpha's speed. Both teams by then will be worn down and ,I believe Lass. has a little more depth. This is all a waste of time, however, cause Lass probably won't beat Lov for a second time anyway.

[unclax1]

I really looked at this the other night and came to many if the conclusions u did Relaxified. Alpha. seems to be on such a roll that it's hard to imagine them loosing but, u know lax, what seems to be sometimes may not be. Alpha does have Lov left and may drop one or two games(Issaquah and one to Tenn team) but, then, they may go all the way. Pope can be inconsistent. Pope and SPX play in a few weeks. I agree on Harrison. They could easily make it to the semi. Lassiter will show us if they have solved their problems on Weds. against Roswell. After that they only have to play McCallie, Issaquah, Pope, Walton, and two other games. If they do well and stay healthy, I think they could possibly take the title. If their defense played a solid game, they can match Alpha's speed. Both teams by then will be worn down and ,I believe Lass. has a little more depth. This is all a waste of time, however, cause Lass probably won't beat Lov for a second time anyway. I agree with your comment :but, u know lax, what seems to be sometimes may not be.
I think Pope gets a good draw and they will be tough. As for AHS, they have speed and their D is (or was, I am not sure) very very good. But, they have a weird schedule. They go out and play 8 quickly then get a week and half off and now they have spring break and a parent tells me they are not practicing before they play the out of state teams...and then they have another break before lovett. So, who knws with them. Got to believe Lovett is going to come back and will be interesting to see LAssitter now. And the other teams that round out the top ten are all capable on any given night. No one is really out of it if they bring there A game. Players are getting better and coaching is getting better. And speaking of coaching, cant count out West. This should be a good end of the season with more twists to come.

[relaxified]

Laxdad, I just haven't seen Lassiter play that well. When you say they play Roswell, McCallie, Issaquah, and Pope, I see 2-4 losses for Lass. I didn't see their speed.

[Lax-A-Tive]

I'm not sure who you think I am, but my names not "Neal". However, I must assume you are referring of a recent graduate of a local high school who, unfortunately, must still still stir up envy/jealousy in you. Its time to get over it, bub. Move on with your life. My guess is that "Neal" was probably somewhere other than here in Atlanta when "Prep Sports" played on local television. I'm could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure television stations up north don't show Atlanta based "Prep Sports".

[Laxdad1]

Granted. Their two dismal games v. Alpha and Milton really define their season, but they are basically a young team. I have seen improvemnt in the last couple of games. I don't know what game you saw but you can't tell me their mids are slow. I have been one of their biggest critics and also an advocate 'cause I claim them as my home team. I dare to say that any team that had their schedule would be able to do that much better. Area games are the only games that matter when it comes to the playoffs. Sprayberry, Etowah, and W'dstock are left. I'd be happy with a split of the others and I hope they win v. Rosw. and Pope.

[relaxified]

Granted. Their two dismal games v. Alpha and Milton really define their season, but they are basically a young team. I have seen improvemnt in the last couple of games. I don't know what game you saw but you can't tell me their mids are slow. I have been one of their biggest critics and also an advocate 'cause I claim them as my home team. I dare to say that any team that had their schedule would be able to do that much better. Area games are the only games that matter when it comes to the playoffs. Sprayberry, Etowah, and W'dstock are left. I'd be happy with a split of the others and I hope they win v. Rosw. and Pope.

I saw Alph v. Lassiter. I refer to team speed as middies, attack, and D. I saw Lass. as fairly average at attack and mid for a top tier school, and I saw them to be a bit slow at D. They seem to have one fast transition middie that was well handled by Alph's fast middies.

You also referred to them having more depth than Alph, but Lass seemed much more gassed towards the end of the game than Alph.

[keylimepie111]

Alpharetta does not have depth (they only run one middie line) but that one middle line can and will play 3/4ths or more of the game without getting tired.

[dc8rlax]

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[Laxdad1]

I totaly agree with you. Lassiter was not ready for that game at all. It almost looked like they had no idea what was coming. The team was not prepared. I can say the same for Milton. Trust me when I say, "I don't get it." I have said on this forum, more than once, that I believe that there are some problems within the program. This Dr Jeykell, Mr Hyde thing can get to you.

[Mr Magoo]

Etowah- 5
Hooch- 2

Laxdad,

If you want to hear about issues with a program ask me.

[Sack Attack]

Pace 11
BT 7

[whslax09]

Whitewater- 7
Starr's Mill- 5

[rhslax25]

3/4 of a game, seriously? has any offense tried to cut and pick them to death yet?

Haha, you can try as you may, but they are the best conditioned team in the state.

[RaiderDBiscuit]

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[gadawgs0820]

Alpharetta does not have depth (they only run one middie line)

you have no idea what your talking about keylime..

[RaiderDBiscuit]

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[rhsgoalie35]

While I disagree that Alpharetta does not have depth at middie (you simply do not become the best team in the state with no good backups), I understand and agree with the point that keylime was trying to make about their first middie line staying in the game longer than the vast majority of teams do. But needless to say, it works pretty well for them so until someone finds a way to take advantage of that and/or shut it down (good luck trying), it really does not matter that they run their first middies so much.

[gadawgs0820]

i appreciate that..

[galax2009]

I'm not sure who you think I am, but my names not "Neal". However, I must assume you are referring of a recent graduate of a local high school who, unfortunately, must still still stir up envy/jealousy in you. Its time to get over it, bub. Move on with your life. My guess is that "Neal" was probably somewhere other than here in Atlanta when "Prep Sports" played on local television. I'm could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure television stations up north don't show Atlanta based "Prep Sports".

you can watch it online

[laxshooter18]

Etowah- 5
Hooch- 2

Laxdad,

If you want to hear about issues with a program ask me.

Mr Magoo, After big wins the last 2 games (Centennial and Wesleyan), this is something of a shock. It looked like Hooch was on their way to being the 3rd or 4th best team that doesn't make the playoffs. What happened? Is their goalie that good that he only allowed 2 goals or did Hooch have an off night shooting?

[relaxified]

While I disagree that Alpharetta does not have depth at middie (you simply do not become the best team in the state with no good backups), I understand and agree with the point that keylime was trying to make about their first middie line staying in the game longer than the vast majority of teams do. But needless to say, it works pretty well for them so until someone finds a way to take advantage of that and/or shut it down (good luck trying), it really does not matter that they run their first middies so much.

Thanks rhs, I think they have great depth at Middie. They have two of the better face-off/center middies in the state and great supporters whose legs feel fresher at the end of the game than their opponents, even though they do it with less bodies.

[Laxdad1]

Was the game as close as the score indicates?

[RaiderDBiscuit]

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[Alpha15]

walton came out ready to play and proved to be one of the tougher opponents we have faced this year... it was a fun game to play

[Mr Magoo]

Laxshooter

The Etowah goalie did a very good job. Hooch played a selfish game last night with very little passing and the Etowah coaches figured that out early and shut them down. Hooch has been plauged by poor team cohesion and a selfish approach to the game for about three seasons now. As a Chattahoochee alum and former player it is very disheartening to see some good players getting screwed over season after season and to witness the program take such a downward slide.

[relaxified]

I noticed that some teams in some Areas play in-Area opponents multiple times. I was wondering if someone could help me determine the seeding under the following situation:

Team A plays all 5 other Area teams in a 6 team Area, beating all Area opponents except Team C and finishes 4-1.
Team B plays 6 Area games in the same Area by playing a lowly ranked team twice. They beat all Area opponents except they lose to Team A and finish 5-1.
Who would be the number one seed in the Area?

[dc8rlax]

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[relaxified]

Thanks, the first sentence, if true, clears up the question. However, look at Area 4, Northview's 2 wins over Centennial are listed in Laxpower's Area standings.

[lax_royalty]

Today's games:
Harrison v. Wheeler
Lassiter v. Roswell
Lovett v. Holy Innocents
Milton v. St Pius X
North Springs v. West Forsyth
Woodward v. Decatur

I think Lassiter v. Roswell, Lovett v. HIES, and Milton v. SPX will be the best games to watch tonight. Lassiter definitely can win, but Roswell has done pretty well this season and have had some good games. Especially against Alpharetta, they played a close game. Lovett and HIES will be close I think. HIES proved themselves as a tough competitor on Monday even though the Hounds won-it was a great game. Milton v. SPX I think could go either way-both have had experience playing top teams, but I believe Milton could pull through and surprise us. We'll see what happens :roll:

[Beta26]

Hooch has been plauged by poor team cohesion and a selfish approach to the game for about three seasons now. As a Chattahoochee alum and former player it is very disheartening to see some good players getting screwed over season after season and to witness the program take such a downward slide.

Didn't the addition of Northview take away a lot of kids from the Hooch area?

[dc8rlax]

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[Honors the Game]

Didn't the addition of Northview take away a lot of kids from the Hooch area?

Both Northview and Alpharetta did ... and a new high school is under construction about 2- 3 miles from both Northview and Chattahoochee, which will further dilute the talent base in the area.

[mmiddie]

the bad lassiter shows up and roswell wins......... lovett just had an off night on a good lassiter night................ there are only three real teams in the hunt

Alpharetta (say what you will but they just keep winning it isn't always pretty but they are always on top when the smoke clears and that is a mark of a good team)(they have also showed class on this board and on the field)

and lovett and pope trying to catch them............

The rest are ............ well ............ "the best of the rest"...........

[dc8rlax]

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[Beta26]

That's why coaches get paid the big bucks dc8rlax :DOH:

[dc8rlax]

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[unclax1]

the bad lassiter shows up and roswell wins......... lovett just had an off night on a good lassiter night................ there are only three real teams in the hunt

Alpharetta (say what you will but they just keep winning it isn't always pretty but they are always on top when the smoke clears and that is a mark of a good team)(they have also showed class on this board and on the field)

and lovett and pope trying to catch them............

The rest are ............ well ............ "the best of the rest"...........I am inclined to say it is more than three teams and we will see some more things that dont make sense which is why the playoffs should be good. Completely agree on AHS comments. Didn't see them last night but heard they dug quite a hole and yet got out out it. Lovett, Pope , AHS - clearly the toughest but, on any given night there are a lot of teams that can win including Lass, Roswell, HIES, West and I suspect the rest of the best as you say. Its about time btw - this is a fun season.

[Beta26]

HIES/Lovett has potential to be a ridiculous game.

Edge:
Attack - HIES
Midfield - Lovett
Defense - HIES
Goalie - Lovett

Faceoffs - HIES
EMO - HIES
Man Down - Lovett
Coaching - Lovett

Laxdad (most likely) won't be there...can we get someone that has actually lacrosse intelligence that can give us a recap after it's complete.

ie: "...Lukens drew several double/triple teams and found York wide open twice...Winship scored 3 goals on transition play...Fraser was solid b/w the pipes....etc etc etc"

and not the typical (although humorous) crap like: "...sweet sidearm rip....private schools parents have money...the word "lax"...McIntosh/Alpharetta would pwn all of them...etc etc etc"

[dc8rlax]

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[Honors the Game]

Laxdad (most likely) won't be there...can we get someone that has actually lacrosse intelligence that can give us a recap after it's complete.

Good one ... you're probably one of the few "adults" frequenting these forums. Are you inferring that the typical poster in this thread does not have a true appreciation for the sport of lacrosse (not lax)? If you really want some "humor" check out the Recruiting thread on which seems to be primarily populated by 8th graders (and their parents).

[Laxdad1]

I'm glad we got u guys to 'splain this stuff.

[Laxdad1]

I wish I could be at Lov/Hies game. A bitter pill on Mon night. Lov attack is better than u think. I'd say they are even. EMO about even also. Although Hies has improved alot this year, I just don't think they will pull it off. Good luck to both teams.
I don't know what to expect tonight, but I've had the same feeling before every game I've been to over the past 4 yrs. Why would this night be different. Talk to y'all after the game.
I expected a diifferent kind of lacrosse year this year, but, honestly, this has been a surprise. When I saw Walton/Lov early in the year, I said that I thought Walton had some young talent and would give everyone they played
a good game. I think they have done that. They should be even better next year. Good luck the rest of the way!!

[Beta26]

Beta26, the big difference is that Lovett has a diverse offensive philosophy with more breadth to their offense. HIES flows all their offense (to date) through 2 players. Lovett will show you one look, then change it to 5 others based on what you do.

Given those factors, I don't know that you can give the edge to HIES for attack or defense. Maybe (big maybe) you can on athleticism. But the team game for Lovett is traditionally stronger than what HIES has shown so far this year.

I was going by position...not offense/defense in a general sense of the words. Lukens and York are a good tandem and are (from what I've seen) make HIES' attack better than Lovett's attack unit. Lovett's attack is VERY good...I think HIES' is better. However, Lovett's midfield is deep and can play O and D. HIES seems to like to run 1 midfield line. Defensively HIES are indeed athletic and play well together.

Lovett's offense (in general) is better than HIES because of the depth through attack and defense. HIES' defense gels well together. However the goalie edge is Lovett's...which can be huge at times. Even if HIES is one-sided with their attack on offense...you still have to be able to stop them.

The game (IMHO) will be won/lost at the midfield...as are most games. You can't score if your midfield doesn't get the ball on O...and you can't stop it if your middies aren't back on D.

Good one ... you're probably one of the few "adults" frequenting these forums. Are you inferring that the typical poster in this thread does not have a true appreciation for the sport of lacrosse (not lax)?

Hahaha define "adult"...regardless of that...have you actually read the majority of posts in here by people? This is an internet message board...not a think tank. People can know absolutely nothing about something (or worse...the wrong information), regardless of age :banghead: (ironically, I made a spelling error in my post about intelligence...hahahaha)

I am not inferring that the typical poster here doesn't have appreciation for lacrosse, far from it. I am however inferring that you didn't actually read that only sentence because I said nothing about appreciation (love of the game). I said "intelligence" in terms of reporting the game and knowing what is actually going on. Just because someone loves the game....doesn't necessarily mean they can give a recap...esp one that is actually informative and devoid of own-team biased. For that matter, even know what the heck is going during the games.

To request intelligence when it comes to a game recap for one of the best games of the year...is not too much to ask...in my humble, non-intelligent opinion :ahhno:

[Honors the Game]

You might have misinterpreted my post, Beta26, 'cause I really think that we're on the same page. By adult, I meant anybody 16 - 60 (or anywhere in between) that posts "intelligently". By appreciation I meant the Webster's dictionary definition of "to grasp the nature, worth, quality, or significance of".

[Beta26]

You might have misinterpreted my post, Beta26, 'cause I really think that we're on the same page. By adult, I meant anybody 16 - 60 (or anywhere in between) that posts "intelligently". By appreciation I meant the Webster's dictionary definition of "to grasp the nature, worth, quality, or significance of".

Word. My mistake/apologies for any/all misconceptions.

Blasted inter-web and its hindrance on communication.

[Socrates]

DC8RLAX, can you provide a source for this information?

Guys... Straight from the league:

Coaches,

As we wind down the regular season I wanted to remind coaches about the
tiebreaker rules for areas to advance to the playoffs that we agree to
every fall. If two teams are tied with identical area records the head
to head match up determines the team that advances. If three teams are
tied the criteria is, in order:

Record vs all common opponents-if still tied

Goal differential in region games. (10 goal max) if still tied

Goal differential vs all common opponents (10 goal max) if still tied

[Mr Magoo]

For a school such as Chattahoochee which has gone through the dilution of talent caused by 2 new high schools and soon to be a third, the battle to stay competitive with other teams will be won or lost at the lower levels of the program. You can gripe all you want about new schools diluting the talent base but the fact that the county builds new schools is something that no one can change. Luckily, up here in North Fulton it looks like they are going to run out of space to build any new high schools in the Alpharetta/Johns Creek area after the one already under construction is completed.

The development of a solid Junior Program (grades 6-8) that is teaching the fundamentals and the team concepts in accordance with the high school program is a must for any successful team. Lassiter is a perfect example of a program that placed great emphasis on its Junior Program from day one and it continues to supply the high school teams with a depth of players who know the fundamentals and team concepts of lacrosse. For diluted areas, having serious Junior Programs with good coaches who are plugged in to what the high school program wants out of incoming players will go a long way to increasing the density of talent in these now smaller pools of players that some teams have to draw from.

By increasing the density of talent feeding in to high schools from well run Junior Programs these high school programs will be able to add Freshman teams. 9th graders who previously would have not received much if any playing time on JV would now be playing in a full schedule of games, receiving more coaching, and gaining more experience. For example, Alpharetta has recently added a Freshman team to their program and while they are playing at a high level now they will continue to improve and benefit because of the increased flow of experienced, well-skilled players afforded by a Freshman team.

The addition of Freshman teams would then afford more 10th graders who may have previously sat behind better skilled 9th graders on JV more opportunities to get on the field and play. These 10th graders would then be even better prepared to make that next move to the Varsity team and contribute as 11th and 12th graders. As with Junior Program and Freshman coaches, JV coaches should also be on the same page in regards to offensive/defensive philosophies as the Varsity coaching staff. This continuity across all levels would instill a focus on fundamentals and the team concept of lacrosse which will ultimately improve the quality of play at schools with smaller pools to draw from.

With all of these pieces in place at the lower levels of the program, players would arrive at the Varsity level with ample playing experience, solid fundamental skills, and ready to compete with other teams that have larger pools to draw from. The final component for small pool teams to stay competitive is to find head coaches (Freshman, JV, Varsity) from the school's teacher ranks that allow the community coaches to do their jobs. I could go on and talk about the requisite commitment from the AD and school administration, but that would warrant another post entirely.

I could see a small pool public school team such as Chattahoochee competing on the level of larger pool teams if steps such as these were implemented. The only way for the Hooch to work towards these steps is to change their philosophy at the top, work for more support from school administration, and commit to growing as a program. Alpharetta is already reaping the rewards and showing every small pool public school team the benefits of this approach.

[Beta26]

The only way for the Hooch to work towards these steps is to change their philosophy at the top, work for more support from school administration, and commit to growing as a program. Alpharetta is already reaping the rewards and showing every small pool public school team the benefits of this approach.

Is it possible for you to get involved?

[Who Cares?]

Mr. Magoo hit the nail on the head. I don’t know about a freshmen team though, this is Georgia and I don’t think the interest is to that level. Programs that want to grow and be competitive definitely need to be nurtured from the ground up. That means you have to have a successful Jr. program with able coaches, not just parents that want to help out. Parents are a necessity and parent involvement is required at all levels of play but solid coaching is a must too. A common coaching philosophy is required as well, one that transfers from middle school to JV to varsity. Coaches need to have an open line of communication and a common vision. Most of the time you are going to have to deal with egos and every once in a while people’s feelings are going to be hurt, i.e. school appointed head coaches. Year round play is something that cannot be overlooked. Off season sports like football are great because it keeps kids in shape, but when your best player are wrestlers, basketball player, or hockey players, your program will be seriously disadvantaged during the beginning of the season. They have to play catch-up to everyone else. And the kids that are there from the get go will resent any player that starts over them come mid season. When all that is taken care of, then it comes down to athletes. Just because kids have been playing lacrosse their entire lives it doesn't mean that they will be successful lacrosse players. A great athlete will beat a kid with decent stick work any day of the week. A great athlete that has been playing lacrosse his whole life, now that’s scary and that’s what larger programs have.

[Who Cares?]

sorry about the grammar but I think my point was made. whether people want to read it or not is up to them.

[blahblah1234]

lovett 12, HIES 7.
HIES came back form a 3 point deficit in 1st half to tie it 7-7, but lovett quickly pulled away in 2nd half, shutting out HIES. solid play from Fraser. some questionable reffing as well, but Lovett still outplayed HIES.

[GAlax3]

roswell won 12-7

[lax_royalty]

lovett 12, HIES 7.
HIES came back form a 3 point deficit in 1st half to tie it 7-7, but lovett quickly pulled away in 2nd half, shutting out HIES. solid play from Fraser. some questionable reffing as well, but Lovett still outplayed HIES.

Worst officiated game I have ever seen in my entire life. HIES had it in the first half, and it looked like they were going to continue strong after halftime. Lovett had more speed, but HIES did pretty well keeping up. It was a game of cat and mouse until the middle of the third quarter, Lovett got ahead by three. HIES couldn't recover. The referees were absolutely horrible. If there were different officials, it would have been a completely different game. Not saying that's an excuse for either team, but most of you know that when the officials aren't good it can throw the whole dynamic of the game off. It was also the brightest game I've been to. The Lovett field (Denny?) gets a ton of sunlight on the side closest to the entrance, making it hard to score on that side of the field because you're staring directly into the sun. All in all, it was a game worth watching. It was definitely the closest game between the two in...forever.

[gagalax18]

lax-royalty, you were right about the officiating. just wondering though, can you get a penalty for "flopping/faking"? if so, the refs need to call it. if not, #2 for lovett needs to go play soccer where that is applauded. #2 gets an A- for his game and and A+ for acting. its a shame to see talent like that wasted on a ______. lacrosse is physical (not brutal, but physical) and if you cant deal with it, trade in your pads for wire goggles and a skirt.

[GAlax3]

My understanding is that the first area game is the one that counts towards seating. Laxpower shouldn't count the second one in the area standings.

You scenario is incomplete. I'm going to assume team C beat A and lost to B. But, did it beat everyone else?

If C beats A, A beats B, B beats A and they are all 4-1 (not including 2nd games against area opponents) it goes into the tie breakers. I'm not sure what they are except that play against each other won't break this one.

If C had not beat everyone else and was 3-2, then C has a worse area record so it is out. A is the 1st seed because it beat B.
I'm pretty sure the tie breakers consist of performance against common opponents and goal differential.

[dc8rlax]

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[blahblah1234]

can you get a penalty for "flopping/faking"? if so, the refs need to call it.

i dont think so ( i could be wrong) but if the refs notice it (which i think they should be able to since its usually pretty obvious...) they shouldnt call a push from behind. nonetheless, nice win lovett. HIES just needs to rebound against Westminster.

[Honors the Game]

Is it possible for you to get involved?

It's a slipperly slope to get those that are not dedicated coaches too involved beyond organizational and fund raising responsibilities. The team here in question has a player's father keeping stats and mother taking photos, both on the field. Well guess what ... they're both telling their son to take it to the goal and shoot essentially every time he touches the ball irregardless of the defensive situation, which is not resulting in a lot of team oriented offense, or wins for that matter. However, there are 2 other alums that are the defensive and goalie coach, respectively, and those units are doing ok for the team. So if you don't have an overall buy-in from your players and parents that this is a team game you're pretty much screwed.

[dc8rlax]

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[calc1454]

lax-royalty, you were right about the officiating. just wondering though, can you get a penalty for "flopping/faking"? if so, the refs need to call it. if not, #2 for lovett needs to go play soccer where that is applauded. #2 gets an A- for his game and and A+ for acting. its a shame to see talent like that wasted on a ______. lacrosse is physical (not brutal, but physical) and if you cant deal with it, trade in your pads for wire goggles and a skirt.


HAHAHA seems like a mad parent or athlete. Did not get to see the game. How did it go?

[blahblah1234]

HAHAHA seems like a mad parent or athlete. Did not get to see the game. How did it go?

obviously it wasnt very smooth for HIES in second half as they were shut out. and by reading your posts you seem like a pro-lovett person so its a bit immature to mock someone for making a legitimate argument about the flopping.

[Socrates]

We played a team tonight that literally Gillman'ed every single clear from the goalie. I've never seen anything like it in...20+ years being around lacrosse. It was unbelievable.

No word on Milton/SPX yet huh?

I saw the same thing from the same team 2 weeks ago. Lack of coaching?

Pius won 6-4 or 6-5 can't remember. Tied at 3 beginning of the 4th.

[dc8rlax]

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[Bexican 408]

McIntosh @ Pace tomorrow...5:30

any predictions?

but wow am i dreading that bus ride :thumbsdow :

[Socrates]

I wouldn't go that far for a lot of reasons. The most obvious is that I'm not going to trash talk a coach on a message board.

They also do some things well like run a 3-3 zone, which is harder than it sounds. It takes away isolation plays and there are a lot of teams in this league that cannot score without iso'ing.

Not my intent to trash - my comment was meant to point out a bandwidth issue that many teams face. Goalie play has many facets and few teams have dedicated goalie coaches. There is only so much you can cram into practice given a particular coach/player ratio.

Case in point - Milton. Great goalie - great goalie coach. BT last year. Good goalie - great goalie coach.

Given more dedicated goalie coaches, would we see the same technique applied?

FYI, the game I saw, they did score off of it once. :banghead:

[Crew_Socks]

Lack of a coach with experience, and the role of parent-coaching conflicts will forever prevent certain teams from stepping up into the next tier of GA Teams...

[Socrates]

lax-royalty, you were right about the officiating. just wondering though, can you get a penalty for "flopping/faking"? if so, the refs need to call it. if not, #2 for lovett needs to go play soccer where that is applauded. #2 gets an A- for his game and and A+ for acting. its a shame to see talent like that wasted on a ______. lacrosse is physical (not brutal, but physical) and if you cant deal with it, trade in your pads for wire goggles and a skirt.

gagalax18,

Yes, you can be penalized for "flopping/faking." Here's your reference:

2008 NCAA MEN’S LACROSSE RULES

Illegal Procedure
SECTION 6.

Any action on the part of players or substitutes of a technical nature that is not in conformity with the rules and regulations governing the play of the game shall be termed illegal procedure. The following are examples:

t. Taking a dive or feigning a slash to the head or body in order to deceive the official and draw a penalty.

[Crew_Socks]

There is no way anyone would ever get called for "taking a dive"... However I wouldnt be suprised if Bob Jackson threw a double penalty: One for the slash, and one for reacting to harshly to the slash...

[relaxified]

We played a team tonight that literally Gillman'ed every single clear from the goalie. I've never seen anything like it in...20+ years being around lacrosse. It was unbelievable.

No word on Milton/SPX yet huh?

Sorry for the ignorance, what does that mean? Did they just heave the ball down field?

[Attackalltheway]

Sorry for the ignorance, what does that mean? Did they just heave the ball down field?
Yea its just when they have the goalie launch it down field most likely because they dont have an organized clear

[GeorgiaDolfan]

gagalax18,

Yes, you can be penalized for "flopping/faking." Here's your reference:

2008 NCAA MEN’S LACROSSE RULES

Illegal Procedure
SECTION 6.

Any action on the part of players or substitutes of a technical nature that is not in conformity with the rules and regulations governing the play of the game shall be termed illegal procedure. The following are examples:

t. Taking a dive or feigning a slash to the head or body in order to deceive the official and draw a penalty.

Georgia doesn't use NCAA rules for High School games. (They use Federation Rules).

[I got man!]

I hate gilmans:devil:

Ranks up there with a buddy/hospital pass :nono:

It is a desparate impatient move. :dummy:

Keep in mind a gilman is different than actually trying to hit your attackman.

[GALAX63]

Any details on what went on with the Lassiter / Rosewell game?

[Beta26]

Lassiter/Roswell (From what I saw in the 2nd half)....Roswell already had a 4-5 goal lead and seemed to shy away from going to the goal...and worked the ball around...made some shots...backed them up...etc. Lassiter wasn't really pressuring but Ax made some pretty solid saves. Roswell got out in transition almost IMMEDIATELY. While Lassiter slow-cleared almost every single time. The few goals that I saw Lassiter put in were just guys fighting through Roswell's defense/slides and getting some good angle shots. Bender had a TON of good shots. He was clearly mismatched by Lassiter's defense with a larger/slower defender. Whereas a speedier/more-agile pole would have had a better shot. Bender was seriously just running around the field...doing whatever he wanted. Whether his shots found the net or not...wasn't guaranteed because Ax looked VERY good. Litton for Roswell was having a field day on faceoffs, man-down and 1on1 defense. #25 for roswell looked good on defense, but looked like he tweaked his ankle late in the game. Roswell's goalie looked young, but played well and made some perfect outlet passes. A few bad ones too...but never any Gilmans.

Lassiter had absolutely no fire...and looked like the did against Alpharetta. Lassiter did seem to thrive on transition/pushing the ball but could never generate any momentum. A team that jumps on them early...seems to over power them...

[watchthepole12]

Yea its just when they have the goalie launch it down field most likely because they dont have an organized clear

lassiter scored a sweet goal on a "gilman" in the state championship game. axe bombed a pass downfield and one of the tall attack just beat his pole to the ball and put it in. can be affective with big smart attack.

[dc8rlax]

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[nrthview123]

games to watch on friday
Pace vs McIntosh.........McIntosh

Pius vs Harrison.........Pius

Centennial vs South Forsyth......Centennial


Anyone have any thoughts on these games, who are the players to watch in these games bc they seem like they are all close games where one player will take over the game

[nrthview123]

#32

games to watch on friday
Pace vs McIntosh.........McIntosh

Pius vs Harrison.........Pius

Centennial vs South Forsyth......Centennial


Anyone have any thoughts on these games, who are the players to watch in these games bc they seem like they are all close games where one player will take over the game

[Statman]

Any details on what went on with the Lassiter / Roswell game?

See newspaper article.

http://www.mdjonline.com/content/index/showcontentitem/area/2/section/13/item/108389.html

[watchthepole12]

who would ya'll say is the best shut down defender in state?

[ItalyLaxer11]

We played a team tonight that literally Gillman'ed every single clear from the goalie. I've never seen anything like it in...20+ years being around lacrosse. It was unbelievable.

No word on Milton/SPX yet huh?

lmao, that would be my team. Our goalie is actually amazing, got offered to walk on at notre dame and john's hopkins(also very smart). But our new coach absolutely loves gilmaning it, and my team does it too. its surprisingly effective, if run right. But ya, i can see why it seemed strange. i was at the game btw

[blahblah1234]

who would ya'll say is the best shut down defender in state?

SOTO from Pope (17) though he didnt do a stellar job against Lukens of HIES (11). he plays good body position defense and doesnt throw too many reckless checks. also very dependable in the clearing game.

[Tblax09]

HIES vs Westminister this weekend 1 p.m at West.....
Any predictions?
Also this is a huge game for the Pace... West... HIES region so both teams will be playing with everything on the line.
I say West. takes it by 2 or 3 goals coming late in the game

[dc8rlax]

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[ItalyLaxer11]

no offense to your team or anything, it's just not something you ever see. We've actually been practicing against Gilman clears because some of the worse teams revert to it when they can't clear. So I think we were prepared but not on purpose.

Your zone D is pretty good. It's hard to get guys to move in a zone. A lot of guys get lazy because they think it is easier, when in reality it takes just as much effort. Judging by your goals against, the teams that can only iso must get real frustrated.


haha, they tend to. thats how we got kennesaw mountain. And honestly, our team was a little bit off last night, not to take anything away from your win. Wasn't our goalies best night, though ya'll were screening the heck of him. and our best offensive player was playing out of position at midfield and he got shutout. But boy, could ya'lls middies really run! i think that was the difference

[Laxdad1]

Thoughts on Ros/Lass
Lass--listliss, lifeless,slow,clumsy,no urgency, no game plan, no D-Pole that could ride Bender, terrible attack, out hustled all night on f/o's and GB's.

It was not possible that they watched film of Roswell. You can not let Bender have any breathing room. What did he have 7,8,9, etc. points?!!! Soto's performance was the guide. Do they have a clue? As much as a hate to say it, they will lose their next 3 games but, will back into the play-offs, unfortunately. I've just about had it and I'm tired of making excuses for them. That means the whole team including the coaches.

[Laxdad1]

Harrison/SPX Harrison
Westm/Hies Westm.
Pace/McIn Pace

[rhslax25]

Thoughts on Ros/Lass
Lass--listliss, lifeless,slow,clumsy,no urgency, no game plan, no D-Pole that could ride Bender, terrible attack, out hustled all night on f/o's and GB's.

It was not possible that they watched film of Roswell. You can not let Bender have any breathing room. What did he have 7,8,9, etc. points?!!! Soto's performance was the guide. Do they have a clue? As much as a hate to say it, they will lose their next 3 games but, will back into the play-offs, unfortunately. I've just about had it and I'm tired of making excuses for them. That means the whole team including the coaches.

He had 7 points.

[relaxified]

He had 7 points.

rhslax, u da man. You are always standing up for your teammates, posting insightfully, and a heck of a d-pole to boot. I like it.

[dc8rlax]

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[rhslax25]

rhslax, u da man. You are always standing up for your teammates, posting insightfully, and a heck of a d-pole to boot. I like it.

Haha, well thank you, I appreciate it. :thumbsup:

[GALAX63]

Etowah was an okay team, some good goalie play and good ball movement on offense, however, I'd be very surprised if Lassiter didn't win by 6-8 goals. No offense to Etowah, but Harrison played them at the beginning of the week and pulled their 1st line in all positions at the start of the 4 quarter and won pretty easily.

It would be a shocker.

[SFHSLAX]

#32

games to watch on friday
Pace vs McIntosh.........McIntosh

Pius vs Harrison.........Pius

Centennial vs South Forsyth......Centennial


Anyone have any thoughts on these games, who are the players to watch in these games bc they seem like they are all close games where one player will take over the game

you are probably right on all 3. Our goalie missed practice yesterday cuz he was sick and we don't think he'll be there tomorrow.

[nd1359]

as someone who came out of lasiter's JTL program and came up to mccallie to play there is a huge difference between play here in TN and play in georgia. i still live in the same place and go to games when i can, and i can say one thing for lassiter...they have talent, however it is completely misused. griffin lamie is arguably the best middie in the state but the coaching staff at lassiter has underused his talent terribly. he has the potention to play for a solid D1 program, but it probably wont happen outside of gettin recruited at camps. against roswell he would take a shot and make it only to come right out. then if he missed a shot he would come right back out. dave banik is an excellent attackman who hustles more than anyone on ridesand moves offball like a madman. they're a slid team but undercoached to their potential. axford is an excepetional goalie but doesnt have the defensive slide scheme to protect him. they can match up with anyone around with talent and atheticism but their coaches dont do them any justice. i personally cant wait to play them, i think the rivalry between mccallie and lassiter is great, especially with players from lassiter playing and me starting against my old team. theyre not a bad team, just not playing their game against other teams, lack of preperation.

[Beta26]

who would ya'll say is the best shut down defender in state?

Going by just the top 10 teams....

1 Alpharetta - Talent seemed pretty spread out.
2 Pope - Soto, no question is tops in the state for shutting down. BUT....Guerra is also looking sharp and is starting to stand out even with Soto there.
3 Lovett - (Someone shine some light here)
4 Roswell - Litton is good at GBs but isn't consistent 1on1. #25 is good with team defense.
5 Harrison - (Someone shine some light here)
6 McIntosh - Nada
7 St Pius X - Gilbert is pretty solid, can handle the ball too.
8 Holy Innocents - Georgakakos plays perhaps the best "position"-based defense in the state. Not a lot of checks, great feet though.
9 Lassiter - Nada
10 Walton - Ratliff is surprisingly good, as long as he doesn't get check hungry. He's the best ball-handler with a pole in the state.

Individual defense can only take your team so far though...

SOTO from Pope (17) though he didnt do a stellar job against Lukens of HIES (11).

Lukens (All American as a junior, will get it again this year too) had 1 non-EMO goal against Soto. I would say that is a pretty good game against someone considered one of the best in the country....two years in a row. There's more to defense than stripping the ball or laying a big hit.

[Beta26]

Any good games this weekend?

[GAlaxfan123]

Soto is very talented-definitely one of the top couple in the state, he did do a good job limiting Lukens to a couple of goals (although Lukens got past him and just plain missed some easy "chip shots" in that game), in contrast Lukens tore up Lovett's D in the first half 4-G, 2-A. including totally flattening one defenseman going to the cage to tie at 7 to end the half. It appeared to me that Lovett has some solid defense but no real stand-out that can dominate in one on one situations or even double team situations. Second half of that game was lopsided partly due to the fact HIES kept thowing the ball away on clears and losing faceoffs giving Lovett a chance to run in transition, quickly score and gain momentum rolling over HIES without much offensive chance/threat from HIES. I am in no way saying Lovett would not have won but HIES certainly did not help themselves.

One to add to your list on Defense is Darius Bowling from HIES (now obviously totally outing my bias here) he is only a sophomore, has an extremely good stick, is very fast and really understands the game, as he continues to gain size and skill he will be a force to be dealt with and may have D-1 potential.

[GALAX63]

As for Harrison defense, they are a very solid team defensive team. Early on in the year, the long poles were not getting support as much from the middies, but that has changed about 5 games into the year. Overall, very fast team defense that are good at slides, and really swarms at loose balls. Stand-outs are Patrick Lovelace #28 (strong stick-work, fast at recovering, not afraid to lay someone out, and very fast - normally able to outrun most middies he goes against), Wes Goldsberry #27 (very good on grounder and take-aways, solid skills, came to school from state of PA this year so has been trained well), Alex Goldsberry (#22, younger brother of Wes with solid skills). Brandon Lane, #13, plays both long pole middie and in during defensive transition, or man-downs. He's also very solid. As I've earlier stated, they don't get the publicity, but in general their defense is very strong. #28 typically will draw the assignment on the stronger attacks or middies, but all the aboves are not afraid to move it around.

I'd wouldn't be surprised if 1-2 of their d makes All State year end awards.

[dc8rlax]

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[unclax1]

Going by just the top 10 teams....

1 Alpharetta - Talent seemed pretty spread out.
2 Pope - Soto, no question is tops in the state for shutting down. BUT....Guerra is also looking sharp and is starting to stand out even with Soto there.
3 Lovett - (Someone shine some light here)
4 Roswell - Litton is good at GBs but isn't consistent 1on1. #25 is good with team defense.
5 Harrison - (Someone shine some light here)
6 McIntosh - Nada
7 St Pius X - Gilbert is pretty solid, can handle the ball too.
8 Holy Innocents - Georgakakos plays perhaps the best "position"-based defense in the state. Not a lot of checks, great feet though.
9 Lassiter - Nada
10 Walton - Ratliff is surprisingly good, as long as he doesn't get check hungry. He's the best ball-handler with a pole in the state.

Individual defense can only take your team so far though...



Lukens (All American as a junior, will get it again this year too) had 1 non-EMO goal against Soto. I would say that is a pretty good game against someone considered one of the best in the country....two years in a row. There's more to defense than stripping the ball or laying a big hit. youhit a lot of them and no disagreement but could add a few I dont have any affilaition here and somewhat new so I dont have all the names although I have seen every top team. Lass has a strong kid (Hamrik?)who I believe has signed with Roanoke but is often misued in my opinion. I suspect he could shut off. Ditto with Waltons # 7. AHS's d is solid but number 28 has been their shut off guy (1 goal for bender on a man up) and is very good. Lovett seemed like they were spread out and all pretty solid. other thoughts?

[relaxified]

My experience is that the guys who play on pressure defenses get most of the attention during allstar voting. It's unfortunate. The best team players, guys who are very solid and play their role within the defense, don't get much recognition.

For the teams we've played against, I liked Pope's defense across the board. HIES' player that has darker skin (African-American I think) really impressed me. He started out soft, and as he learned the limits of our player he pushed those limits.

Our team won't get any credit because we are team defense oriented. With that said, we've only had one stinker (Pope) and I can put #8 (Rigger) on anyone and feel confident. He's my quarterback out there too. He will change slide packages based on the offensive set. Our LSM is a beast too #7 (Clark).

HIES guys, how many did Lukens get against us? At least 1 (maybe 2) was a transition goal. I mean straight up 6v6.

I completely agree with what you said regarding the type of guys that get the all-state recognition. I would have to extend that to say that short stick middies who play great team defense are even more overlooked as compared to LSMs and offensively oriented middies. I also see the gambling middies who sometimes create turnovers receiving more credit for their defense than the patient guys who rarely let someone get passed them and wait for their opportunities.

[Beta26]

Lass has a strong kid (Hamrik?)who I believe has signed with Roanoke but is often misused in my opinion.

Oh I absolutely missed people...but I haven't seen every team play every game so there's people I missed. I was trying to keep it to the "top" defender since there are some good team defenses out there.

Bingo! And (unfortunately) "potential" isn't what we're talking about...because he's good. But if he's not used in the right way...then they can't reach that potential.

dc8rlax, you are referring to Darius on HIES. If he keeps improving like he has...he'll be a star. Very impressive for (I believe) a sophomore.

On that note, (from what I saw) Decatur's defense was well-organized and knew what they were doing. LSM play on Decatur was VERY solid as well. A good LSM can control a team with a standout midfielder and really shutdown an offense.

[GAlax3]

as someone who came out of lasiter's JTL program and came up to mccallie to play there is a huge difference between play here in TN and play in georgia. i still live in the same place and go to games when i can, and i can say one thing for lassiter...they have talent, however it is completely misused. griffin lamie is arguably the best middie in the state but the coaching staff at lassiter has underused his talent terribly. he has the potention to play for a solid D1 program, but it probably wont happen outside of gettin recruited at camps. against roswell he would take a shot and make it only to come right out. then if he missed a shot he would come right back out. dave banik is an excellent attackman who hustles more than anyone on ridesand moves offball like a madman. they're a slid team but undercoached to their potential. axford is an excepetional goalie but doesnt have the defensive slide scheme to protect him. they can match up with anyone around with talent and atheticism but their coaches dont do them any justice. i personally cant wait to play them, i think the rivalry between mccallie and lassiter is great, especially with players from lassiter playing and me starting against my old team. theyre not a bad team, just not playing their game against other teams, lack of preperation.
I strongly disagree about him being underused. Maybe he was in the Roswell game, but in the Lassiter games that I've seen this year, he was maybe even overused. Griffin's a great midfielder but he can't do it all on his own. Yet that's what I've seen him trying to do, especially against McIntosh.

[lacrosse123]

Who are the top 3 players per position in GA? (only 1 goalie)

[rhslax25]

Gleason and Mustowy, from Roswell and Alpharetta, respectively, are both great midfielders.

[ny2galax37]

Who are the top 3 players per position in GA? (only 1 goalie)

Attack
Kenary - Milton
Lukens - HIES
Bender - Roswell

Midfield
Mostowy - Alpharetta
Frost - Pope
Gleason - Roswell
Litton - Roswell (LSM)

Defense
Soto - Pope
Georgakakos - HIES
Mostoufi - Alpharetta

Goalie
Perrett - Lovett

[Beta26]

Good list ny2galax37,

My personal opinion on the following:

Harrison's midfielder (#5) is fairly dominant, I would put him over Gleason.

I really like Litton, his speed and his good attitude...but (right now) he's really one-sided on just GB's and isn't a superior 1on1 or team-defense as an LSM. I'd give the edge to Decatur's LSM (forgot his #, but he's very good) or Pope's #24.

[ny2galax37]

Good list ny2galax37,

My personal opinion on the following:

Harrison's midfielder (#5) is fairly dominant, I would put him over Gleason.

I really like Litton, his speed and his good attitude...but (right now) he's really one-sided on just GB's and isn't a superior 1on1 or team-defense as an LSM. I'd give the edge to Decatur's LSM (forgot his #, but he's very good) or Pope's #24.

Won't see Harrison until later in the season. I'll definitely keep my eyes out for #5. Litton is an excellent takeaway defender from up-top, but not as strong playing 1-1 close D. I gave him the nod more because his presence on the field changes the outcome of a game greatly. I haven't seen Decatur at all this year, so I'll go with your input; you seem to have had the chance to see a broader spectrum of teams play. What's great is that there are so many quality players out there.

[TPRU]

Walton's #7 on D is Chase Thomas who has been on the All-State list for past 2 years and should be again this year (going to Stanford to play football - 1st Team All-State in football and a stellar athlete). Having said that, #23 is Scott Ratliff who is a JR and converted middie playing close D who may be one of the best defenders overall in GA - great take away ability, great stick and good field awareness (also plays man up). Both should get post season recognition.

[Sack Attack]

Pace/McIntosh cancelled in the first quarter due to weather -- it was tied 2-2.

[nrthview123]

who is all goin 2 play in college next year? obviously there is a good talent pool here but a lot of them never try and play collegiate ball.

[GAlax3]

So far from Pope, Soto is going to be playing at Hobart. Guerra is going to BYU. Flood will be playing at Lindenwood. Krupa will be playing at Birmingham Southern.

[Socrates]

who is all goin 2 play in college next year? obviously there is a good talent pool here but a lot of them never try and play collegiate ball.

Here's where 20+ GA players are going:

http://www.laxpower.com/recruits/recruits.php?action=viewRcd&db=recruits2008

[ny2galax37]

Walton's #7 on D is Chase Thomas who has been on the All-State list for past 2 years and should be again this year (going to Stanford to play football - 1st Team All-State in football and a stellar athlete). Having said that, #23 is Scott Ratliff who is a JR and converted middie playing close D who may be one of the best defenders overall in GA - great take away ability, great stick and good field awareness (also plays man up). Both should get post season recognition.

Chase Thomas is a talented football player who has achieved All-State recogniton at the lacrosse level as well. He is aggressive and handles the ball well and therefore should be acknowledged again this year. Scott Ratillif is on of my favorite players; as I've said before, he has the sickist box-fake in Georgia. He is an awesome stickhandler. He is still learning close defense, but I think he will be All-America as a Sr. He is SICK on man up, with a CANNON!

[rhsgoalie35]

I strongly disagree about him being underused. Maybe he was in the Roswell game, but in the Lassiter games that I've seen this year, he was maybe even overused. Griffin's a great midfielder but he can't do it all on his own. Yet that's what I've seen him trying to do, especially against McIntosh.

Although I don't know much outside of the Roswell game, Lamie was heavily underused in the Lassiter-Roswell game. He scored 3 times in the first half yet the Lassiter coaching staff seemed to pull him at virtually every opportunity they had and he played sparingly in the 2nd half. The coaches seemed almost as though they were willing to accept less production in order to get the whole team involved. I'm not saying that overusing him would have solved all their problems and won them the game but he was clearly outplaying the majority of his team when given the chance, which seems to me motivation to keep him in the game. But also don't forget that it was Lassiter's Senior Night, which I'm sure influenced the decision, and Lamie was not the only player underused. This said, I still found it very odd that the coaching staff seemed reluctant to utilize several of their best players to the fullest extent through the whole game.

[calc1454]

Attack
Kenary - Milton
Lukens - HIES
Bender - Roswell

Midfield
Mostowy - Alpharetta
Frost - Pope
Gleason - Roswell
Litton - Roswell (LSM)

Defense
Soto - Pope
Georgakakos - HIES
Mostoufi - Alpharetta

Goalie
Perrett - Lovett


Haha bet this guy does not go to a public school.

3 all americans (pretty much what you are saying) from Roswell?
There are 8 from a public school and 4 from a private school?

[rhslax25]

Have you seen them play? And last time I checked, 4/5 top 5 teams were public schools.

So far this season, Bender has 74 points, Gleason has 34, with 74 ground balls, and Litton has 110 GBs.

[namrogo]

deacaturs LSM is #7 and hes fast and has good stick skills

[ScooPs-33]

any news on the westminster vs HIES game today?

[blahblah1234]

any news on the westminster vs HIES game today?

10-7 HIES
Noonan had a poor game in my opinion. (scored on himself once)
solid play from all of HIES attack and middies. HIES defended the open set pretty well, could've used a bit of improvement. #4 and #3 (i think) on Westm. made some good plays as well. by far one of the coolest plays i have witnessed thus far in the season was #8's (HIES) goal over the shoulder, without looking. HIES came out ready to rebound and knew the significance of the region game.

[ny2galax37]

Haha bet this guy does not go to a public school.

3 all americans (pretty much what you are saying) from Roswell?
There are 8 from a public school and 4 from a private school?
Where's your list, tough guy?

[dc8rlax]

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[naderlax23]

that's why Griffin should have came up to mccallie. with his talent combined with ours he'd have a lot more success, and i think a lot more fun playing.

[farside]

I wish everyone would stop with this PUBLIC vs PRIVATE BS.

It means nothing if a player from any type of school deserves after season accolades so be it.

Get over yourselves. There are many teams that play weaker schedules and if you score 30 goals in a season and play only 3 weaker teams vs 75 goals and you play 12 weak teams that should be taken into account. The coaches vote on this stuff and it usually pretty close although every year a few players get hosed.

My List of top players that should make All-STATE and All-American - PLEASE BE ADVISED I HAVE NOT SEEN EVERY TEAM THIS YEAR (such as St. Pius, Walton, Northview (they have some very good players) I have not seen the weaker teams (I won't mention names) - SO Don't lose you mind.

Goalie : AXFORD, PERRITT, LEAF, HOSTETLEER, SOLAN
Honorable Mention: Schweers and Trottenbach - these goalies get shelled all week.

Attack: Lukens, YORK, Green, Bender, Banik, Beaman, Stanton, Kearney, Ward
Honorable Mention: Griswald, Garr

Midfield: Lamie, Rhodes, Bennett, Mostowy, Pearce, Reed,
Honorable Mention: Seacrest, Fulton, Llado, Dockery (POPE - should be playing midfield)

Defense: Kid from Alpharetta - goes by MO: Georgakokas, Bowling, Mohamidian, Soto
Honorable Mention: Bowman, Litton,

[blahblah1234]

I wish everyone would stop with this PUBLIC vs PRIVATE BS.

It means nothing if a player from any type of school deserves after season accolades so be it.

Get over yourselves. There are many teams that play weaker schedules and if you score 30 goals in a season and play only 3 weaker teams vs 75 goals and you play 12 weak teams that should be taken into account. The coaches vote on this stuff and it usually pretty close although every year a few players get hosed.

My List of top players that should make All-STATE and All-American - PLEASE BE ADVISED I HAVE NOT SEEN EVERY TEAM THIS YEAR (such as St. Pius, Walton, Northview (they have some very good players) I have not seen the weaker teams (I won't mention names) - SO Don't lose you mind.

Goalie : AXFORD, PERRITT, LEAF, HOSTETLEER, SOLAN
Honorable Mention: Schweers and Trottenbach - these goalies get shelled all week.

Attack: Lukens, YORK, Green, Bender, Banik, Beaman, Stanton, Kearney, Ward
Honorable Mention: Griswald, Garr

Midfield: Lamie, Rhodes, Bennett, Mostowy, Pearce, Reed,
Honorable Mention: Seacrest, Fulton, Llado, Dockery (POPE - should be playing midfield)

Defense: Kid from Alpharetta - goes by MO: Georgakokas, Bowling, Mohamidian, Soto
Honorable Mention: Bowman, Litton,

thats quite a lot of HIES goin All-American. while Bennet is a strong midfield and Mohammodioun is a solid defender, they will make 1st team All state at best. and i cant help but wonder why Noonan didnt even get Honorable mention?

[ny2galax37]

I wish everyone would stop with this PUBLIC vs PRIVATE BS.

It means nothing if a player from any type of school deserves after season accolades so be it.

Get over yourselves. There are many teams that play weaker schedules and if you score 30 goals in a season and play only 3 weaker teams vs 75 goals and you play 12 weak teams that should be taken into account. The coaches vote on this stuff and it usually pretty close although every year a few players get hosed.

My List of top players that should make All-STATE and All-American - PLEASE BE ADVISED I HAVE NOT SEEN EVERY TEAM THIS YEAR (such as St. Pius, Walton, Northview (they have some very good players) I have not seen the weaker teams (I won't mention names) - SO Don't lose you mind.

Goalie : AXFORD, PERRITT, LEAF, HOSTETLEER, SOLAN
Honorable Mention: Schweers and Trottenbach - these goalies get shelled all week.

Attack: Lukens, YORK, Green, Bender, Banik, Beaman, Stanton, Kearney, Ward
Honorable Mention: Griswald, Garr

Midfield: Lamie, Rhodes, Bennett, Mostowy, Pearce, Reed,
Honorable Mention: Seacrest, Fulton, Llado, Dockery (POPE - should be playing midfield)

Defense: Kid from Alpharetta - goes by MO: Georgakokas, Bowling, Mohamidian, Soto
Honorable Mention: Bowman, Litton,

I like your list - very complete.

[gclark94]

Hey, I know that this isnt really highschool, but is anybody playing at the summer league at the buckhead YMCA that just split off from bagataway. I just signed up and looks like it would be fun.

[Beta26]

My List of top players that should make All-STATE and All-American - PLEASE BE ADVISED I HAVE NOT SEEN EVERY TEAM THIS YEAR (such as St. Pius, Walton, Northview (they have some very good players) I have not seen the weaker teams (I won't mention names) - SO Don't lose you mind.

Goalie : AXFORD, PERRITT, LEAF, HOSTETLEER, SOLAN
Honorable Mention: Schweers and Trottenbach - these goalies get shelled all week.

Attack: Lukens, YORK, Green, Bender, Banik, Beaman, Stanton, Kearney, Ward
Honorable Mention: Griswald, Garr

Midfield: Lamie, Rhodes, Bennett, Mostowy, Pearce, Reed,
Honorable Mention: Seacrest, Fulton, Llado, Dockery (POPE - should be playing midfield)

Defense: Kid from Alpharetta - goes by MO: Georgakokas, Bowling, Mohamidian, Soto
Honorable Mention: Bowman, Litton,

Farside, I think you left off some of HIES' 4th string middies, or perhaps the 5th pole? Maybe some JV guys? You're obviously a HIES homer but c'mon dude. And defensively you have their entire starting defense listed? Haha wow. Perhaps you weren't at the Pope game...where the Pope "statues" as you so nicely put it seemed to do fairly well (and by fairly well, I surely mean "win")...and hold 2-time AA Lukens to 1 non EMO goal.

Get over yourselves.

Take some of your own advice there, chief.

[farside]

Hey if you read the past posts I said the Pope Defense Looked like Statues in the Lovett/Pope Game. As far as HIES goes yes I am partial to them because they are the Team I have seen the most. I have no Dog in the HUNT but if there is one thing I know and that is talent. Pope may have held Lukens to a lower Point total but that is because Soto is as equal to Lukens in talent and athletic ability. And yes they won which happens when you play like a team. This was no disrespect to POPE it was just an observation of one game.

HIES - 4 Times
POPE - 2 Times
Lovett - 4 Times
Lassiter - 3 Times
Roswell - 3 Times
Wesleyan - 2 Times
Centinninal and Darlington - 2 times
Pace - 2 Times
McIntosh and Hootch, Westminster, Alpha - 1 Time

Maybe you should post a list so everyone can rant on you. ’m a big boy (literally), so save the recommendations, Enzo… Just read :guns: the posts and wait. I don’t tell you what brand of cologne to bathe in, so don’t tell me what people can be on my list.
:guns:

[lax_royalty]

Farside, I think you left off some of HIES' 4th string middies, or perhaps the 5th pole? Maybe some JV guys? You're obviously a HIES homer but c'mon dude. And defensively you have their entire starting defense listed? Haha wow. Perhaps you weren't at the Pope game...where the Pope "statues" as you so nicely put it seemed to do fairly well (and by fairly well, I surely mean "win")...and hold 2-time AA Lukens to 1 non EMO goal.

Take some of your own advice there, chief.

Calm down Beta. It's no mystery that HIES has some of the best players as individuals-Lukens made 1st team All-State and All-American last year, he'll get it again. York who made All-League last year has had his best season by far, despite being hurt at the beginning of the season-he is definitely a candidate for All-State. Bennett has been overlooked in the past and should be up for it this year as well. As for the defense: Georgakakos is one of the best defenders in the state, if not the best and that can't be denied. Making 2nd team All-State in 2007, he should be recognized this year for 1st team and All-American. Bowling received 3rd team All-State as a freshman, clearly that's talent. He will be a candidate again as he has proven himself as one of the best as only a sophomore. Mohammadioun had a rough season last year due to a break in his collarbone, but this year, I think, has shown what a great defender he is. The HIES defense is one of the best I've seen as individuals and as a unit. The team had a great game against Pope, and a rough one against Lovett, but I believe they redeemed themselves against Westminster yesterday.

As farside said, he hasn't seen every team play and therefore cannot make picks on every single team. Everyone is entitled to their own opinions, and everyone will have different ones on who is getting All-State and All-American. This is just a lacrosse chat board, don't get your panties in a twist.

And, Beta, you don't know that farside is an HIES homer or not. That's the great thing about these board with the exceptions of those clearly representing their team through their usernames and pictures, you don't know who is who. So calm down and don't get all worked up over someone's opinion. I'd love to hear your picks, and then maybe you can peacefully discuss with others who have shared their opinion.

[farside]

BTW - I was at the Westminster Game yesterday and saw a very young talented and well coached team. They will be strong for the next few years.

The reason Noonan was not on my Goalie List is that yesterday was the first time I saw him play and he looked like he had difficulty seeing the ball. I know he is good but he missed too many games this year to receive 1st team status in my book. If Westminster had the ball in their end more I think it would have been a closer game. The HIES Goalie played real well and made some tough saves. As well York had one of the best goals I have ever seen. I think it should be sent in the ESPN

[Crew_Socks]

Would any of you pick someone from a middle tier team to be all american? I realize they dont get as much exposure, but some kids are putting up very impressive statistics, and could start on bigger teams...yet they get no love...

[galax2009]

Would any of you pick someone from a middle tier team to be all american? I realize they dont get as much exposure, but some kids are putting up very impressive statistics, and could start on bigger teams...yet they get no love...

who do you have in mind?

[Beta26]

As far as HIES goes yes I am partial to them because they are the Team I have seen the most.

Actually, someone should pay you to watch their games...so that their team can be that much better and have everyone make all-state.

Pope may have held Lukens to a lower Point total but that is because Soto is as equal to Lukens in talent and athletic ability. And yes they won which happens when you play like a team.

Wow... :ahhno: you do realize that [good] defense is more than just one player guarding another player? Perhaps...."team" defense....??? Maybe? :idea: You just said it..."...happens when you play like a team..."...which is in fact, applicable to O and D...and more!

Maybe you should post a list so everyone can rant on you. ’m a big boy (literally), so save the recommendations, Enzo… Just read :guns: the posts and wait. I don’t tell you what brand of cologne to bathe in, so don’t tell me what people can be on my list.

I actually posted my top defenseman per team list for the top 10 teams at the time for laxpower...and didn't include info on 4 teams (Lassiter, McIntosh, Lovett, Harrison) because I didn't see anything phenomenal in the games that I saw them in...and asked for advice. It was basically a compliment list. Anytime you make a list that includes (doesn't include) players...there is going to be disagreement esp when that list is overly peppered with players from (any) one team. Saying "___ is a great player and a good person" is NOT the same thing as saying "TEAM X should get all-state". Compliment away...but all-state and AA is incredibly competitive. Creating a list and saying that no one can disagree with it is rather close-minded...I would say. Look at the list, dissect it, contradict it, do your worst to say I am wrong about the players I complimented and if you disagree...guess what...I'll somehow find a way to continue breathing and accept your opinion.

Next time you post a list or say anything however, I will agree with it NO MATTER WHAT because who does anyone think they are....to question you, sweetness?

This is just a lacrosse chat board, don't get your panties in a twist.

This is a lacrosse message board???

Lax_Royalty, you guys are the ones flipping out about me disagreeing wouldn't ya say? I can agree just like you can disagree. There aren't eleventy billion spaces for all state selections...so putting an entire squad (esp @ an entire position) on there seems a little far-fetched. And yeah it sucks that some kids may deserve all-state and not get it...but that's life. Westminster only had 5 guys (2 att, 1 mid, 1 def, 1 goalie) on all-state last year...and they won state (Milton had 6).

I'd better not disagree with anyone else's opinion anymore! Because then...someone might disagree with me! :thumbsup:

[Crew_Socks]

who do you have in mind?

It doesnt matter who I think should be in there. But there are many players on "bad" teams that have been playing varsity for 3-4 years and are putting up good stats regardless of who they play. Yet the all-state players are all from playoff teams. There are kids with stats more impressive than the one's someone listed about Bender earlier...The only thing is they dont have near th