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Hoolax
05-03-2008, 08:51 AM
[QUOTE=Laxdad1;1542830] I think they may hang for a while but Westm. is a different team now. Westm. is smelling blood and , of course, look what side of the bracket they are on. I wonder how they get there every year?(wonder not)

Not sure what you mean by that last comment. The W bracket had the number 1,4,6,7,8, and 10 ranked teams in the state. When you want to make snide comments like that do your homework first.

keylimepie111
05-03-2008, 09:28 AM
[QUOTE=Laxdad1;1542830] I think they may hang for a while but Westm. is a different team now. Westm. is smelling blood and , of course, look what side of the bracket they are on. I wonder how they get there every year?(wonder not)

Not sure what you mean by that last comment. The W bracket had the number 1,4,6,7,8, and 10 ranked teams in the state. When you want to make snide comments like that do your homework first.

Hoolax dont get your feathers ruffled. You need to remeber one thing laxpower means nothing now so stop using it, their are only four teams left. Also westminster got the bracket where their are teams that are not normal play-off contenders. Milton, Lassiter, Lovett, and Westminister always seem to do well in the play-offs funny thing is out of those four teams Westminister is in a bracket by itself. That is all Laxdad is saying. So relax man and keep it classy the season is all most at a close.

laxdog27
05-03-2008, 11:13 AM
I have a suggestion for the Lassiter webcast team. That decatur webcast is cool. The bitrate is high. But they stay too tight (zoomed) on the ball. You can't see anything, especially because the camera man is a little slow. They need to widen out a little.

Laxdad1
05-03-2008, 11:31 AM
[QUOTE=Laxdad1;1542830] I think they may hang for a while but Westm. is a different team now. Westm. is smelling blood and , of course, look what side of the bracket they are on. I wonder how they get there every year?(wonder not)

Not sure what you mean by that last comment. The W bracket had the number 1,4,6,7,8, and 10 ranked teams in the state. When you want to make snide comments like that do your homework first.

Let's get one thing straight, I'm one of the biggest status quo guys on this forum. I usually give credit where credit is due, but I have always lauded the big four of Ga Lacrosse, 2 private & 2 public schools. Heck, I wish booster clubs could augment community coaches salaries so the public schools could get some real quality coaches because that's where the difference lie. I'm not cutting the present coaches but, an experienced coach or, even a recent DI,II,or III graduate, would raise the level of public school lacrosse so much faster it would make your head spin.

laxdog27
05-03-2008, 11:39 AM
A lot of community coaches don't take any stipend.

Sack Attack
05-03-2008, 11:46 AM
Not sure what you mean by that last comment. The W bracket had the number 1,4,6,7,8, and 10 ranked teams in the state. When you want to make snide comments like that do your homework first.
Not to mention West won the toughest region in the state as well.

Crew_Socks, how would you say private school fans differ from public school fans? What part of their attitude/demeanor makes them seem elitist? Just curious..

justchillaxin88
05-03-2008, 11:53 AM
[QUOTE=Hoolax;1542883]

Hoolax dont get your feathers ruffled. You need to remeber one thing laxpower means nothing now so stop using it, their are only four teams left. Also westminster got the bracket where their are teams that are not normal play-off contenders. Milton, Lassiter, Lovett, and Westminister always seem to do well in the play-offs funny thing is out of those four teams Westminister is in a bracket by itself. That is all Laxdad is saying. So relax man and keep it classy the season is all most at a close.

Well this sounds familiar... if i recall, last year everyone was all up in arms about how Westminster got such an easy road to the finials and that it was somehow rigged. Lets just stop this now before it gets started.

IMO, every team left in the playoffs is beatable, there is no stellar team that will dominate, hands down. Now, if Harrison and Pope were still in the playoffs, i dont think that this issue would have been brought up. But think about it, McIntosh and Northview beat those teams, so on that night, they were better.

I personally would much rather be on the side that west is on if i was playing, but who wouldnt?
Milton and Lovett are much more consistent. The same cannot be said for the other side.

BUT, last year lots of people were complaining about how west really didn't deserve to be there... BUT THEY BEAT THE TEAM THAT CAME OUT OF THE OTHER SIDE! You cannot say that they really didnt win because they never played Lovett or the teams on the other side. They beat Lassiter, who came out on top of that side of the bracket.

galax2009
05-03-2008, 12:02 PM
regardless of which side of the bracket you come out of, if you beat the team that comes out of the other side in the finals does it matter?

laxshooter18
05-03-2008, 05:17 PM
McIntosh 5 - Pius 4 Final

Hoolax
05-03-2008, 05:55 PM
Westminster 12-7 Final

JogSplitBurn
05-03-2008, 06:16 PM
In the first half both teams came out strong, with Northview scoring first and #6 for West scoring second. Pretty sloppy game after the rain, and the game was tied 5-5 at half. After the half, Westminster went on a 7-2 run and dominated offensively, defensively, and at the faceoff X.

the freshman #10 for West had a hat trick, and #6 had 2 or 3 goals.

49 played the best for Northview, and Alan Holbert (#33) did a pretty nice job on #3 for West.

Westminster's clears in the 2nd half were much better than in the first half.

Luckily i didn't see much bad sportsmanship or hurtful heckling during the game

justchillaxin88
05-03-2008, 07:00 PM
Was a great game to watch, west could have thrown in the towel when they were down 3-1, but they didn't.
Was an even game in the first half, but in the second west literally ran away with it. They were running about 10 middies and northview was running half that from what i saw. They just ran out of gas and west turned it up a notch. 10 for west had a great game, and number 6 had some great dodges, especially when northview got tired, he just ran around them. northview's number 33 was all over west number 3 and didn't let him get any good looks at the cage, however because he was so focused on 3 not going to cage, number 3 was able to dump the ball off to west cutting middies for some easy goals.

can't wait for next week!

attacklax08
05-03-2008, 08:23 PM
the west. northview game was a good one...for most of the game. At the beginning it appeared that northview would have another commanding win, but west. rallied back and won big. #10(thomas) had 2 or 3 quick goals from the crease. #6( Dunleavy) had at least 4 maybe 5 goals. He had some good dodges. #4 also looked good. For northview #49 was seemingly their only offensive threat. #33 on defense did well on shutting off #3 Westminster was fun to watch and im sorry that i wont be able to make it out to mccintosh next week

Catfish
05-03-2008, 08:36 PM
Any word on the Lovett Lassiter Game

Laxdad1
05-03-2008, 09:30 PM
two quick things: coaching, coaching coaching and refs who are FUBAR

Thanks Lass for a good game. Congrats to Lovett for a better game.

laxdog27
05-03-2008, 11:45 PM
oh man. if we see Westminster/Lovett in the championship, so much for parity.

loganlax
05-04-2008, 12:01 AM
lovett gets revenge... 13-11
Lovett takes on Milton

Seems like you want to lose the Lov-Lass regular season game

By the way- reviewing all state. Is it me, or are there way TOO many people on that list. There are some great players on that list but it seems like WAY too many people

watchthepole12
05-04-2008, 12:01 AM
was anyone at the mcintrash spx game?

Plume
05-04-2008, 12:06 AM
No, no one was there; the game was played in an empty stadium.

watchthepole12
05-04-2008, 12:09 AM
ooh...a bit snippy are we? would you happen to be a golden lion?

longpole58
05-04-2008, 12:25 AM
#33 on defense did well on shutting off #3 Westminster was fun to watch and im sorry that i wont be able to make it out to mccintosh next week

#3 had 3 or 4 assists, and at least 2 of them were strikes to a middie or attack in motion that made the goal almost a certainty. As GA lax advances, I hope we all develop an appreciation for the assist. It earns the same number of points as a goal and when done properly it's a beautiful thing. One-on-one dodging is nice to watch, but take in any college or pro game and you'll gain an appreciation for passing and assists. A good D can shut down the best 1 on 1, but great passing is an art.

tigerlax22
05-04-2008, 01:28 AM
any predictions for the semi finals? on west v mcintosh or lovett v milton?

Sack Attack
05-04-2008, 02:17 AM
Lovett/Westminster for the title.

mullengoal141
05-04-2008, 10:21 AM
i kind of want to see milton mcintosh....

just because its something new!

newsignupname
05-04-2008, 10:48 AM
Great game last night - Lov & Lass both came to play and played hard for whole game. 13 - 11 Lovett. Very few penalties and both teams were physical. Could have gone either way, but Lov took the 3rd qtr and roared back from 4 down and scored 5 unanswered goals. One big turning point was in 3rd when Lass # 24 -Erickson - went in up high from top of crease and was about to score, and Lov. goalie Perrett stepped up and just pancaked him on his back and stopped the shot - Lov then took the ball down and scored Lov team got really re-fired up and they kept the momentum from there. Lov attack Greene also had a career game with 6 or 7 goals. Good solid lax on both team's parts - very exciting game to watch as a spectator. Anyone else there to add more perspective / thoughts?

JDM591
05-04-2008, 11:16 AM
Great game last night - Lov & Lass both came to play and played hard for whole game. 13 - 11 Lovett. Very few penalties and both teams were physical. Could have gone either way, but Lov took the 3rd qtr and roared back from 4 down and scored 5 unanswered goals. One big turning point was in 3rd when Lass # 24 -Erickson - went in up high from top of crease and was about to score, and Lov. goalie Perrett stepped up and just pancaked him on his back and stopped the shot - Lov then took the ball down and scored Lov team got really re-fired up and they kept the momentum from there. Lov attack Greene also had a career game with 6 or 7 goals. Good solid lax on both team's parts - very exciting game to watch as a spectator. Anyone else there to add more perspective / thoughts?
I counted 8 goals for Owen Greene. He single handedly controlled that game. He dominated every defender Lassiter put on him. The one bright spot of the defense was McGuire who actually kept Owen in check. Wentz had a bone rattling hit one one of the Lovett attack guys, and there were several hard hits by both teams. This was a hard fought game that was played well by both sides. Lamie scored almost at will for Lassiter. Two of his four goals were earned by fighting through triple teams that should have had him on his back, but somehow he managed to be untouchable. Seth contributed 4 or 5 goals and was a big impact, but he took about 20 shots to make those five. The thing that was lacking for Lassiter in this game was the complete shutdown of their attack line. Bannick had one goal and Sechrest had one goal on a great one on one dodge where he manufactured a goal. Aside from that, the Lassiter attack was silent. Lovett was able to take advantage of the Lassiter defensive habit of over extending and playing too far on the perimeter. That works on teams that have marginal stick skils, but creates a wealth of opportunity for teams with the ability to hold on to the ball. Owen Greene had a field day beating his guy from way outside and then beating a late slide to try to stop him. As always there were some calls that should not have been made, and some that should have by the officials, but none of those calls turned into a score on the following possesion, so they were irritating to the crowd, but irrelevant to the outcome of the game. The best thing about this game was that neither team gave up. They both left everything on the field. Lassiter, who has a reputation of imploding when they are down, did not pack up early and give up. They fought hard and should be proud of their effort. Lovett, congratulations on a hard fought win.

psychoT
05-04-2008, 11:31 AM
any recaps of the mcintosh-pius game? anything exciting/bizarre?

Lax-A-Tive
05-04-2008, 11:49 AM
I went to the Lass/Lov game to see if my prediction would hold true. As usual, I was wrong about the score. However, I still feel that Lov needs to shore up their defense if they hope to win the state championship. Milton has a very strong offense and Lov's lack of intensity (although the did play hard on occassion during the Lass game) will be their undoing. It was a great game and both teams played hard. OGreene did dominate on offense and both goalies played outstanding. Still can't figure out how Perrett didn't get first team. Some of Lov's middies seemed like they were afraid to touch the man they were defending. I'll say it again, if the Lov defense doesn't show some b**ls and play hard, they are out after the Milton game. Lastly, who was the Lass cheap shot artist that took Lov's #7 out of the game with a very late hit. Totally uncalled for. He should be proud of himself. Milton 11/Lovett 9.

JDM591
05-04-2008, 12:27 PM
I went to the Lass/Lov game to see if my prediction would hold true. As usual, I was wrong about the score. However, I still feel that Lov needs to shore up their defense if they hope to win the state championship. Milton has a very strong offense and Lov's lack of intensity (although the did play hard on occassion during the Lass game) will be their undoing. It was a great game and both teams played hard. OGreene did dominate on offense and both goalies played outstanding. Still can't figure out how Perrett didn't get first team. Some of Lov's middies seemed like they were afraid to touch the man they were defending. I'll say it again, if the Lov defense doesn't show some b**ls and play hard, they are out after the Milton game. Lastly, who was the Lass cheap shot artist that took Lov's #7 out of the game with a very late hit. Totally uncalled for. He should be proud of himself. Milton 11/Lovett 9.
That was number 22 for Lassiter and it was ttally a legit hit. #7 had the ball when he was hit. What made it look so bad was that the Lovett guy who passed the ball to #7 completely telegraphed the pass and then threw it high so that the kid had to stretch out to catch it. # 22 from Lassiter saw the pass start before it ever was thrown and made a great play on the ball. That kid was so much bigger that #7 and when he hit him, he was just coming back to the ground from the catch so he was a sitting duck. That was his teammate's fault, not #22. It did look ugly and I would not wish that on anyone, but it was not a cheap shot. It was clean.

watchthepole12
05-04-2008, 02:44 PM
any recaps of the mcintosh-pius game? anything exciting/bizarre?

i heard a mcintosh goal (that was not counted) was under protest...is that true? and if so, could anything be ruled to change the outcome or send the game into overtime?

Tek
05-04-2008, 04:00 PM
i heard a mcintosh goal (that was not counted) was under protest...is that true? and if so, could anything be ruled to change the outcome or send the game into overtime?

there were two shots by SPX on mcintosh goal. the first one hit inside pipe. Hit the net and bounced out and was not counted. Second crossed over the line but did not hit net. Also was not counted. Refs did not call a fair game.

GK32
05-04-2008, 04:42 PM
I couldn't make it out to any of the games yesterday, could somebody give a full recap of Mcintosh SPX? The lovett lassiter and Northview recaps were good I thought. These forums are quite ideal for playoff season when all of the games are too close in time to go to all of them. What does everything think the championship will look like?

justchillaxin88
05-04-2008, 04:45 PM
there were two shots by SPX on mcintosh goal. the first one hit inside pipe. Hit the net and bounced out and was not counted. Second crossed over the line but did not hit net. Also was not counted. Refs did not call a fair game.

I find it hard to believe that a ball would hit pipe and net, and still bounce out. If it is going to hit both, it should bounce back into the goal... With the way that the goals are set it i really dont understand how that could happen, unless it did not hit net.

Some more details would be helpful for us to understand...

flowtowin
05-04-2008, 04:55 PM
i predict milton to come out fired up against a very strong lovett team. a revenge game for milton, they will have a lead for most of the game but will give it up in the 4th because they just cannot match up with lovett's attack. lovett will pull away and win by 2 12-10

mcintosh will have an advantage at the attack but thats it. westminster has a lot of momentum and is in yet another revenge game. they will control the game in its entirety and will break mcintosh physically and mentally by the fourth quarter. they will run away with a 4+ goal win
13-7

lovett will host westminster for the state championship for the battle of buckhead

Laxcats2012
05-04-2008, 04:56 PM
So, in case you guys haven't figured out, I'm a westminster kid who is graduating 2012. I feel like that was pretty evident. But I wanted to ask you if it's just my biased opinion of the team or whether it seems like this to you guys too-- don't you think Westminster got the shaft this year? One first team all state, one 2nd team, one third team, one honorable mention, and one AA? I don't know but it seems to me that some more westminster players deserved recognition/ deserved higher team ranks.

Laxdad1
05-04-2008, 05:04 PM
That's All She Wrote:

A most perplexing and exasperating season has come to an end. No longer do I have to wonder what team is showing up because, last night, Lassiter was ready to play. They never have had a problen with intensity when it comes to playoff time. I began to feel a little apprehensive as halftime approached and prayed that somehow there wouldn't be one so Coach B could not make that slightest adjustment, that little nuance that would change the fortune of his team. Coaches M. and F. had figured out that what they needed was Seth Erickson. I don't think he took 20 shots(but close) but you have to admit, he adds so much to Lassiter's game that you just don't care. It's unfortunate that he could not play all year because his presence, determination, and his will could and probably and would have changed the outcome had he been involved in the developement of the offensive scheme at Lassiter during the year.

The 3rd was the difference. Lovett's mids began to play closer and hustled harder and they did cause problems for Lass. All they had to do was get the ball to their attack and BOOM-the net rattled. I've never seen such a dominating attack as Lovett's last night. Lass. defense could not adjust and when they did they were late. Hammock got beat on several occasions. The shot #22 made on Lov. #7 was legal, I saw it clearly. I just hope it was not the same kid that had his shin injured in the first game. I hope he is OK to play on Weds because Lovett is gonna need everyone they have. Milton has hit their stride and are playing the best ball in the state right now.

The Lass boys should hold their heads up, they played a good game. Lamie played great. His dodging and stick skills are at the top or near it in the state. Perrett had no idea where the ball was coming from. I can't wait to watch him next year on what I believe will be a well balanced, very strong, quick team with a lot of depth. J Shriner had a good game also. By doing a very good job on f/o,he put his team with the ball. It's just to bad Lass. couldn't score. The kid played his guts out and I got p----ed when Coach M yelled at him on the sidelines for making a defensive mistake when he should have been yelling at his D instead.

Lovett did score 2 goals on man up situations. I believe both on very low shots that Axe didn't or barely reacted to. I think they were scored by the other attackman. The refereeing was not up to par, and I'm being kind. Coach B and Coach M were giving the ref plenty of advice. It was easily heard in the stands behind the Lass bench. One was clearly a push with Poss. right in front of the Lass bench. I'd like to give Axe credit for playing a good game. He is perhaps one of the best one-one goalies in the state. He played well in a high pressure game.

Good luck to all the graduating SNRS from both Lovett and Lassiter. Thanks for all the lacrosse you have played against each other. GOOD LUCK to Lovett on Weds.

Although I won't be going to Milton for the right reason, I'll be there to watch what should be an interesting game.

mullengoal141
05-04-2008, 06:35 PM
there were two shots by SPX on mcintosh goal. the first one hit inside pipe. Hit the net and bounced out and was not counted. Second crossed over the line but did not hit net. Also was not counted. Refs did not call a fair game.

with the way the goals are shaped it is nearly impossible for it to hit the net anywhere and then come bouncing out. thats why there are specific rules for the construction of the goal to limit these instances

keylimepie111
05-04-2008, 07:49 PM
So, in case you guys haven't figured out, I'm a westminster kid who is graduating 2012. I feel like that was pretty evident. But I wanted to ask you if it's just my biased opinion of the team or whether it seems like this to you guys too-- don't you think Westminster got the shaft this year? One first team all state, one 2nd team, one third team, one honorable mention, and one AA? I don't know but it seems to me that some more westminster players deserved recognition/ deserved higher team ranks.

Personally I would not be complaining if my team had an All-American but I guess some people just want it all. Anyway

You might be right but when the votes were cast Westminister did not have that good of a season. That is probably why you got the shaft. Just look at Lassiter and Milton. Both of these teams had poor regular seasons yet they had some great players that did not get nearly the recognition they deserve. Look at both of those teams goalies Hostetler(sp) and Axford. In my mind both of these goalies deserve all american over Flood, because they were just as good if not better and they didn't have an all-american defender taking out the opponent's best attackman.

split-to-roll
05-04-2008, 08:01 PM
So, in case you guys haven't figured out, I'm a westminster kid who is graduating 2012. I feel like that was pretty evident. But I wanted to ask you if it's just my biased opinion of the team or whether it seems like this to you guys too-- don't you think Westminster got the shaft this year? One first team all state, one 2nd team, one third team, one honorable mention, and one AA? I don't know but it seems to me that some more westminster players deserved recognition/ deserved higher team ranks.

yeah i think keylime may be right here. when the voting took place, westminster had not had that great of a season. few would have predicted them in the semi-finals. but lets look at what they got.

Seiler (AA) - i think a well deserved honor. he shut bender down in the first round. very good takeaway defenseman. played everyones best attackmen great all year.

Dunleive (2nd) - very good middie but not quite at first team status yet. very fast, good right handed shot. at least he is a junior and will be back next year.

Noonan (3rd)- was 1st team all-state last year but lets look at how his season went. broke his thumb before first game and missed like 8 games. that sucks. After playing in half of his games he figures out he has 20/80 vision and needed glasses. that sucks. tore a ligament in is thumb in the hies game. that sucks. just didnt play as well as he did last year.

Ball (AL) - like noonan he dropped too (HM last year). Great player but doesnt put in a lot of goals. If anyone was shafted from westminster it was him.

there really isnt anyone else i can think of on westminster. they are a great team made up of decent players.

Crew_Socks
05-04-2008, 08:07 PM
Most teams would be happy to have an All American and 4 Kids make the All-State team... I think they need to spread the votes out, one team had 10 kids make all state, even one of their backups made it....thats ridiculous... Stop skeeting all over the usual big name teams and try to spread the wealth out...

tigerlax22
05-04-2008, 08:25 PM
So, in case you guys haven't figured out, I'm a westminster kid who is graduating 2012. I feel like that was pretty evident. But I wanted to ask you if it's just my biased opinion of the team or whether it seems like this to you guys too-- don't you think Westminster got the shaft this year? One first team all state, one 2nd team, one third team, one honorable mention, and one AA? I don't know but it seems to me that some more westminster players deserved recognition/ deserved higher team ranks.

are you kidding me?! i know plenty of other amazing teams with superstar players that didnt even get half that recognition. i dont think west. should have even gotten that much, they dont have many great players they just play well as a team. with your players, you should be greatful you even got an all american cause thats a stretch as it is

justchillaxin88
05-04-2008, 08:52 PM
So, in case you guys haven't figured out, I'm a westminster kid who is graduating 2012. I feel like that was pretty evident. But I wanted to ask you if it's just my biased opinion of the team or whether it seems like this to you guys too-- don't you think Westminster got the shaft this year? One first team all state, one 2nd team, one third team, one honorable mention, and one AA? I don't know but it seems to me that some more westminster players deserved recognition/ deserved higher team ranks.

Fellas, before we get on people about wanting more votes and feeling that they got shafted when we might feel that what west got was not deserving, keep in mind that this might not be a west kid, but someone looking to stir up trouble and get people pissed at west...

HOWEVER, i personally fell that all state and AA voting should be held over to the end of the season, because a player might not have that great of a regular season, but hit a hot streak in the playoffs, and i think that how a player performs under the pressure in the playoffs says alot about him.

Now for what west did get, i agree with split-to-roll's comments.

Seiler is a great player and has been all season. It sucks for Noonan to be injured when he had a great season ahead of him, but i think that he has played well this season over all. Dunlieve is a great player and should be fun to watch next year. IMO, Ball did get shafted and had alot of great assists this year, even though his goal total might have dropped.


are you kidding me?! i know plenty of other amazing teams with superstar players that didnt even get half that recognition. i dont think west. should have even gotten that much, they dont have many great players they just play well as a team. with your players, you should be greatful you even got an all american cause thats a stretch as it is

Well dont you win as a team??? One player does not win games, the team does and that is why west is playing well, they mesh very well and play as a team.

And i highly disagree that their AA was a stretch... Seiler totally shut down Bender, a fellow AA and took him out of the offense for roswell. He is their best defender and has showed it throught the season. I would love to have him guarding the crease on my team.

with your players, you should be greatful you even got an all american cause thats a stretch as it is


Are you saying that west does not have good players?? My guess is that they beat you and you are a little sour about it...:devil:

lax_royalty
05-04-2008, 08:59 PM
So, in case you guys haven't figured out, I'm a westminster kid who is graduating 2012. I feel like that was pretty evident. But I wanted to ask you if it's just my biased opinion of the team or whether it seems like this to you guys too-- don't you think Westminster got the shaft this year? One first team all state, one 2nd team, one third team, one honorable mention, and one AA? I don't know but it seems to me that some more westminster players deserved recognition/ deserved higher team ranks.

I completely disagree. Westminster didn't get shafted, however other teams did. The decision was stacked with Alpharetta, Pope, and Roswell players which I think was a little unfair despite how "good" people believe they are. Plenty of players didn't get the recognition they deserved, but Westminster had 5 recognitions. Be happy with what you get.

galax2009
05-04-2008, 09:11 PM
who cares what recognition people get? i just want that state trophy

blahblah1234
05-04-2008, 09:13 PM
So, in case you guys haven't figured out, I'm a westminster kid who is graduating 2012. I feel like that was pretty evident. But I wanted to ask you if it's just my biased opinion of the team or whether it seems like this to you guys too-- don't you think Westminster got the shaft this year? One first team all state, one 2nd team, one third team, one honorable mention, and one AA? I don't know but it seems to me that some more westminster players deserved recognition/ deserved higher team ranks.

no. remember when HIES beat you by 3? they got less recognition and they have more talented individuals.

tigerlax22
05-04-2008, 10:11 PM
Are you saying that west does not have good players?? My guess is that they beat you and you are a little sour about it...:devil:

no im just saying that i dont think westminster had very good players. i do agree with you that i was wrong before about their defensemen, but i think there are many better offensive players out there that were not recognized at all. as we both pointed out, westminster capitalized on great teamwork, so i think they are worthy of a great record and final four in the playoffs, but i personally believe their individual abilities dont amount to the individualistic rewards some of their players recieved.

rhslax25
05-04-2008, 10:24 PM
Are you saying that west does not have good players??

no im just saying that i dont think westminster had very good players.



wait... what?

galax2009
05-04-2008, 10:43 PM
no im just saying that i dont think westminster had very good players. i do agree with you that i was wrong before about their defensemen, but i think there are many better offensive players out there that were not recognized at all. as we both pointed out, westminster capitalized on great teamwork, so i think they are worthy of a great record and final four in the playoffs, but i personally believe their individual abilities dont amount to the individualistic rewards some of their players recieved.

Out of curiosity, have you seen Westminster play? #6 Puts up atleast 3 goals a game and with Westminsters schedule I would say thats pretty good. As for the others, Noonan, Ball, and Seiler received recognition last year and deserve it this year as well. Its hard to put up 17 with out very good players

theking2
05-04-2008, 10:52 PM
no. remember when HIES beat you by 3? they got less recognition and they have more talented individuals.


A bold statement. If I recall, HIES got beat in the first round. Their great "talent" (besides Lukens and Georgakakos, not one other player on that team impressed me, and I watched them play 3 times this season) did not seem to do much in the post season. Just like last year (and the year before etc).

tigerlax22
05-04-2008, 10:53 PM
Out of curiosity, have you seen Westminster play? #6 Puts up atleast 3 goals a game and with Westminsters schedule I would say thats pretty good. As for the others, Noonan, Ball, and Seiler received recognition last year and deserve it this year as well. Its hard to put up 17 with out very good players

yeah i played em and i didnt think they put up nearly as good a fight as lovett lassiter roswell holy innocents or even pace and pius

lax_royalty
05-04-2008, 10:58 PM
A bold statement. If I recall, HIES got beat in the first round. Their great "talent" (besides Lukens and Georgakakos, not one other player on that team impressed me, and I watched them play 3 times this season) did not seem to do much in the post season. Just like last year (and the year before etc).

And a bold statement from you as well. Yes, HIES got beat in the first round. But Pope and Alpharetta both got beat by teams that they should have defeated. Clearly your expectations for lacrosse teams are way higher than everyone else's because HIES surprised people for even making it to the playoffs and for beating Westminster. Making it to the first round is a great accomplishment in itself, and the teams that made it should be very proud. Don't try and take that accomplishment away from those teams by making statements like that.

theking2
05-04-2008, 11:06 PM
And a bold statement from you as well. Yes, HIES got beat in the first round. But Pope and Alpharetta both got beat by teams that they should have defeated. Clearly your expectations for lacrosse teams are way higher than everyone else's because HIES surprised people for even making it to the playoffs and for beating Westminster. Making it to the first round is a great accomplishment in itself, and the teams that made it should be very proud. Don't try and take that accomplishment away from those teams by making statements like that.

I aimed to take nothing away from anyone, except maybe HIES haha. They did great this season, and may have suprised people, but it was shortlived. I just don't believe they are at the level of teams like Milton, Lassiter, Lovett and West.

Lovett/Milton should be a fantastic game. I don't know about y'all but I don't really want to see a Lovett/Westminster(if they can beat McIntosh) final. Go Eagles.

IronShef
05-05-2008, 12:22 AM
I think Lovett has the edge on Milton, unless milton's d can stop #'s 2 on attack and 20 on midfield. both are very quick.

Westminster vs. Mcintosh should be a good game as well. Little known, but apparently Mcintosh beat westminster in a pre-season scrimmage pretty handily. west. is obviously a different team now, and will have the edge going in.

TheKing2, the fact that hies made it out of their region is an accomplishment. Pace, Hies, and Westminster are all top tier teams that deserve to be in the playoffs and at least have a chance to make a run. Pace got the wrong end of the three-way tie, but still rounds out the most competitive region in the state.

blahblah1234
05-05-2008, 07:07 AM
A bold statement. If I recall, HIES got beat in the first round. Their great "talent" (besides Lukens and Georgakakos, not one other player on that team impressed me, and I watched them play 3 times this season) did not seem to do much in the post season. Just like last year (and the year before etc).

i'm pretty sure roswell and harrison lost in round 1 too. my point is that AA's are decided before the playoffs.

watchthepole12
05-05-2008, 09:54 AM
my point is that AA's are decided before the playoffs.

but should they?

mullengoal141
05-05-2008, 10:08 AM
of course, you can't decide on one game alone to define a player, so a player has an amazing season, then they have one off game which happens to be the first round of the playoffs, does that automatically make them any less of a player? no! EVERY player has an off day.

GALAX63
05-05-2008, 10:35 AM
No different than professional or college awards. They are all based on regular season. Post season never enters into it. Which should not be any different with GA lacrosse.

luvitatLS
05-05-2008, 10:49 AM
because GA has the most forum replies.....duh

Lax-A-Tive
05-05-2008, 10:59 AM
There sure seems to be a lot of gabbing and griping going on about AA. I planned to stay out of this one but enough is enough. I've been around GA lax for a while and I'm not sure that some of the kids who made it should have or that some of the kids left off shouldn't have. I was very surprised that Lovett's goalie didn't do better. I saw him play several games and he was always outstanding (and, no I'm not him or his dad/mom). Certainly as good (or in my opinion better) as any of the higher rated goalies. One kid who made AA (not a goalie) could only shoot and to be honest, he wasn't really that good of a shooter. He didn't pass to his teammates, he didn't seem to have strong lacrosse knowledge and really didn't appear to understand it is a team game. I hate to think that just because spots are available, that means they need to be filled. That being said, lets get this one behind us and be happy for everyone (even though they may not be our particular choices) that made AA and All-State.

longpole58
05-05-2008, 11:51 AM
That being said, lets get this one behind us and be happy for everyone (even though they may not be our particular choices) that made AA and All-State.

Well said lax-a-tive! Let's talk semi-finals... no clear favorite that I see. Once it's all over we can then push for an all-tourney team as voted on/debated by this forum!

laxshooter18
05-05-2008, 12:11 PM
Well said lax-a-tive! Let's talk semi-finals... no clear favorite that I see. Once it's all over we can then push for an all-tourney team as voted on/debated by this forum!

or we could talk about next season. I'd be shocked if we had the same 8 or 16 in the playoffs next year that we have this year. A few teams are loosing a ton of Seniors.

keylimepie111
05-05-2008, 02:11 PM
Actually the three teams who made it to the semis are all pretty young. Milton, Lovett, and Westminister all have lots of talented juniors I'm going to have to completely disagree with you.

Lax-A-Tive
05-05-2008, 02:46 PM
Lassiter is young, unfortunately they didn't make it to the semis. A friend told me that Lovett starts 8 underclassmen. I've heard Westminster is young also.

watchthepole12
05-05-2008, 03:11 PM
yeah, westminster and lovett are both young...but both teams lose their stud goalies, at least two starting d-poles and their LSMs...defense could be the question next year

tigerlax22
05-05-2008, 03:18 PM
Actually the four teams who made it to the semis are all pretty young. Milton, Lovett, Lassiter and Westminister all have lots of talented juniors I'm going to have to completely disagree with you.

i think milton only started 1 or 2 seniors against alpharetta when they beat them...

watchthepole12
05-05-2008, 04:04 PM
Common Opponents for McIntosh vs. Westminster:

Lassiter- Mc Win by 1
West Loss by 2

McCallie- Mc Loss by 5
West Loss by 6

Alpharetta-Mc Loss by 1
West Loss by 1

Harrison- Mc Loss by 6
West Win by 1

BT- Mc Win by 10
West Win by 14

Northview- Mc Win by 3
West Loss by 3
West Win by 5

St Pius- Mc Win by 1
West Win by 2

watchthepole12
05-05-2008, 04:14 PM
Common Opponents Milton Vs Lovett:

Lassiter- Milton Win by 8
Lovett Loss by 3
Lovett Win by 2

Alpharetta-Milton Loss by 2
Milton Win by 1
Lovett Loss by 3

St Pius- Milton Loss by 2
Lovett Win by 2

Walton- Milton Loss by 3
Lovett Win by 6

Pope- Milton Loss by 8
Lovett Win by 6

Pace- Milton Loss by 7
Lovett Win by 7

Westminster- Milton Loss by 2
Lovett Win by 1

Holy Innocents- Milton Win by 3
Lovett Win by 5

Head to Head: Milton 11
Lovett 12

Statman
05-05-2008, 04:16 PM
yeah, westminster and lovett are both young...but both teams lose their stud goalies, at least two starting d-poles and their LSMs...defense could be the question next year

Same thing holds for Lassiter, young this year on attack and middie, loosing stud goalie, LSM and d-pole (or poles if one rising Sr. focuses on Football scholarship and not lacrosse-#22).

longpole58
05-05-2008, 06:53 PM
Awesome watchthepole12! So it looks like edge to McIntosh v Westminster and who the heck knows on the other - depends on which Milton shows up.

galax2009
05-05-2008, 07:25 PM
yeah i played em and i didnt think they put up nearly as good a fight as lovett lassiter roswell holy innocents or even pace and pius

funny that only lovett is left out of those...

B1ackout
05-05-2008, 07:37 PM
I think Lovett has the edge on Milton, unless milton's d can stop #'s 2 on attack and 20 on midfield. both are very quick.

If milton plays the way they did against Holy Innocents and Alpharetta, then there is no question about whether they can stop those players. They stopped both the AA from Alpharetta, David and Brad, from contributing much.

But honestly I believe that this game will be one of the best match-ups so far. Both goalies are good with Hostetler hitting a hot streak and making great saves in both playoff games. Lovetts offense is strong and OGreen is a very dominating player. Milton's D is notorious for being inconsistent, but if the last two games say anything then they have fixed that. I'm just looking forward to seeing a great game.

As for the Westminster talk. You have to watch West play to know what your talking about. The reason they have no huge standout players is that their team play is so fluent that everyone stands out. They dont need the sick outside shot because your D is to confused to see the guy shooting from crease. They are a good team and deserve to be where they are.

watchthepole12
05-05-2008, 08:06 PM
Awesome watchthepole12! So it looks like edge to McIntosh v Westminster and who the heck knows on the other - depends on which Milton shows up.

I dont know if you were basing what you said on the results i had posted, but why would that favor McIntosh? With a plus/minus system on those games against common opponents, Westminster is +9 and McIntosh is +3...while i wouldnt say that gives West the edge, it certainly doesnt point toward McIntosh.

If you want to say that the common opponent system means something, it should certainly point to Lovett on the other side...with a plus minus system of common opponents, Lovett is +27.5 and Milton is -12.5!! (fyi if a team played the common opponent twice, I averaged the results. also, i didn't follow the 10 goal max used officially; that only effected the West v McI vs BT)

tigerlax22
05-05-2008, 08:40 PM
funny that only lovett is left out of those...

yeah also funny that westminster didnt have to play nearly as hard of teams as lassiter alpharetta or holy innocents. i mean northview to get into final 4? they were good this season but not that good. well see by saturday

tigerlax22
05-05-2008, 08:43 PM
As for the Westminster talk. You have to watch West play to know what your talking about. The reason they have no huge standout players is that their team play is so fluent that everyone stands out. They dont need the sick outside shot because your D is to confused to see the guy shooting from crease. They are a good team and deserve to be where they are.

exactly my point; great team, not so great individual players. you dont need all americans to win games, look what happened to holy innocents, roswell, pope, retta, and a couple other teams who are done

psychoT
05-05-2008, 08:44 PM
i mean northview to get into final 4? they were good this season but not that good. well see by saturday

tell that to harrison...

theking2
05-05-2008, 08:54 PM
exactly my point; great team, not so great individual players. you dont need all americans to win games, look what happened to holy innocents, roswell, pope, retta, and a couple other teams who are done

Westminster does have an All American if I am not mistaken, #29 I think?

Fire_Truck
05-05-2008, 08:59 PM
Any predictions for the next round??
Milton Lovett= MIlton 13-11
McIntosh Westminster = McIntosh 12 -7

Sack Attack
05-05-2008, 09:00 PM
Lovett 10-8
Westminster 11-10

laxrunner
05-05-2008, 09:04 PM
im sorry i dont like talkin about all state and AA but from looking at the list, and as much as i hate them, doesnt it seem like lovett may have been shafted? only 1 all state first team and no AA.

and im taking milton and westminster with milton taking it all.

laxwar12
05-05-2008, 09:23 PM
yeah also funny that westminster didnt have to play nearly as hard of teams as lassiter alpharetta or holy innocents. i mean northview to get into final 4? they were good this season but not that good. well see by saturday

you wouldnt being saying that if pope and harrison hadnt lost...so the only argument that you are making is that ga lacrosse is really competitive, the way it should be, and any team can lose on any day to anyone

tigerlax22
05-05-2008, 10:12 PM
you wouldnt being saying that if pope and harrison hadnt lost...so the only argument that you are making is that ga lacrosse is really competitive, the way it should be, and any team can lose on any day to anyone
yeah, and i like it that way to. my argument is that yes, i know westminster has an AA, but the previous comment saying west. got shafted is not true. im saying i dont think they got shafted BECAUSE they play great as a team but aren't stacked with all american worthy players. their players just play well as a team, nothing against westminster just saying its not stacked. and there are teams like lovett and milton that deserved more player awards than westminster, i bet 24 from milton's defense could outplay westminsters AA and hopefully well get to see that in playoffs. he hasnt gotten looks cause milton had a dissapointing season but throughout the playoffs hes been sick, shutting down holy innocents' AND alpharetta's all americans. AAAANNNDD he shut down bender too. so put that in a sock and eat it.

justchillaxin88
05-05-2008, 10:15 PM
yeah, and i like it that way to. my argument is that yes, i know westminster has an AA, but the previous comment saying west. got shafted is not true. im saying i dont think they got shafted BECAUSE they play great as a team but aren't stacked with all american worthy players. their players just play well as a team, nothing against westminster just saying its not stacked. and there are teams like lovett and milton that deserved more player awards than westminster, i bet 24 from milton's defense could outplay westminsters AA and hopefully well get to see that in playoffs. he hasnt gotten looks cause milton had a dissapointing season but throughout the playoffs hes been sick, shutting down holy innocents' AND alpharetta's all americans. AAAANNNDD he shut down bender too. so put that in a sock and eat it.

too bad for him AA and all state voting is before the playoffs...

and i beleive that milton goalie got recognized... not sure anyone help me out here? 1st team all state... so you cant blame Miltons regular season on a player not getting recognized, if one of his teammates does...

rhslax25
05-05-2008, 10:24 PM
I don't remember #24 being that great, and as far as I remember, he didn't shut down Bender...

justchillaxin88
05-05-2008, 10:26 PM
but westminster's number 29, AA, did... but number 24 of milton is soooooooooo much better...

tigerlax22
05-05-2008, 10:38 PM
I don't remember #24 being that great, and as far as I remember, he didn't shut down Bender...
from what i saw he didnt look so hot out there.
It doesn't surprise me that Milton won. I stayed until the game stopped for lighting. Milton just looked like a better team then Roswell. They had much more time of possession, won more faceoffs and stopped bender. He did have three goals (No assists) but I still consider that being stopped for Bender. All I have to say is besides Lovett ga lacrosse is looking very interesting.
and apparently im not the only one who saw bender get shut down. his 3 goals were from when 24 was not on him.

tigerlax22
05-05-2008, 10:43 PM
so 24 played just as well as seiler

rhslax25
05-05-2008, 10:45 PM
And he had one more when play resumed...

4 goals?

Not exactly what I consider shutting down.

Soto held him to 2, and Seiler held him to 1, and maybe an assist or two.

laxn29
05-05-2008, 11:37 PM
24 didnt guard bender, # 6 did and Bender had three goals one where he actually beat him and two in transition. #24 Joseph Burton is good and deserved all state without a doubt, he is just not as flashy as a soto or georgokakos.

tigerlax22
05-05-2008, 11:42 PM
24 didnt guard bender, # 6 did and Bender had three goals one where he actually beat him and two in transition. #24 Joseph Burton is good and deserved all state without a doubt, he is just not as flashy as a soto or georgokakos.

oh my b. i wasn't sure cause i didnt see much of that game but i thought milton usually puts him on the powerhouses. GOOD ATHLETIC STANCE. sorry, that last phrase just kinda slipped out

calc1454
05-05-2008, 11:56 PM
Haha yall are ridiculous.

If you shut bender down, then you are an All American. Thats how i judge it. (sarcastic)

Plume
05-06-2008, 12:10 AM
Westminster 10, McIntosh 8
Milton 13, Lovett 12

naderlax23
05-06-2008, 12:36 AM
are those actual scores, or just predictions?

psychoT
05-06-2008, 12:40 AM
predictions

ny2galax37
05-06-2008, 01:18 AM
from what i saw he didnt look so hot out there.

and apparently im not the only one who saw bender get shut down. his 3 goals were from when 24 was not on him.

Did he cover Bender, or not? 3 goals is 3 goals, and he had 1 goal and 3 assists against #29 from Westminster, who is a heck of a defenseman. I guess, using Bender as the barometer, is the highest compliment one can give him. The thing about Bender is he doesn't have to be a hero; his unselfish play makes his teammates better. He has different skills than other attackman, and he's not flashy, which I suppose upsets many of you who don't know anything about lacrosse. He had 51 assists this year. As some of the more knowledgeable posters on this forum have pointed out, those who know lacrosse revere the assist. More importantly, with his lacrosse IQ and leadership, he's like having a coach on the field.

#24, and Milton's defense as a whole, looked phenomenal against Alpharetta. This clearly was not the same defense that matched up against Roswell, and other teams, earlier in the season. It was a blast watching them play.

There is so much good lacrosse going on in the state right now. I suppose what we are all trying to do is recognize those that may not have gotten the recognition for the season, but are now demonstrating prowess in the post-season. That's what makes sports so great.

justchillaxin88
05-06-2008, 06:53 AM
but what i personally find is funny, is that Westminster's AA on D scored just as many goals as Bender did...:clap:

GALAX63
05-06-2008, 07:36 AM
Pretty funny posts about who shut who down. Those who were recognized for their regular season accomplishments should realize it didn't happen just because of one game. Every good player at one time or another will get shut down by an off game or a good defense/offense that just comes to play. All this talk about AA's and who deserved or didn't is pretty humorous.

While I'm sure there are deserving players who got left off, I have to trust the coaches were pretty accurate on who they saw as deserving of the awards.

Now it's playoffs, and it doesn't matter. You got to come to play. All the best to McIntosh, Lovett, Westminister, and Milton for getting to this point.

rhslax25
05-06-2008, 08:09 AM
but what i personally find is funny, is that Westminster's AA on D scored just as many goals as Bender did...:clap:

Haha that made me laugh

Has anyone seen this:

http://www.georgialax.com/08allstargames.html

Looks pretty cool.

ny2galax37
05-06-2008, 08:41 AM
but what i personally find is funny, is that Westminster's AA on D scored just as many goals as Bender did...:clap:

So did one of Roswell's defensemen, who scored on his own goalie!:nut:

loganlax
05-06-2008, 09:41 AM
looks cool as another money maker for someone that will provide the players nothing.
That is one week after the NCAA's. Unless they are paid I can not imagine any big league coaches coming besides lowly DII programs down here.
If you want to get noticed GO TO WHERE you want to be recruited.
Seek them out.

unclax1
05-06-2008, 10:10 AM
predictions Agree on West. Main reason is coaching in this one. Very hard to bet against West Coach. McInt certainly has earned their way but, i dont think they have the pers all the way through to get pat adjustments they will see.

Other game for me is a coin flip. Here's why and relax all of you with affiliations who are going to jump all over me for next statement..remember I am not affilaited and I go to these games only to enjoy and send some reports to thsoe colleges that have asked me to look around. I think Milton beat the best team in the state to be where they are now. And while everyone has analyzed the Milton Alpha game here are some facts - Milton's poles played well but, Alpha's attack had 8 of their goals - (#20 had four goals) - and missed or hit pipes on more than I could count. Faceoffs were even but, Alpha's deadly transtion game was stopped cold. Alpha's defense made adjustments but, other Milton guys stepped up. One comment I have no disagreement with is Milton's Middies outplayed Alpha's on both ends of the field and that was a big diff. BUT, the biggest was Milton's goalie because despite Alpha's mids being outplayed, their goalie being banged up, their transition stopped, their dumb mistakes - they had chances and Milton's goalie made unbelievable saves some in the first three minutes so:
Can Milton play with the same passion? - remember the crowd was intense
I think Milton's middies are fine with Lovetts and if they play like they did against Alpha will be better esp on faceoffs. Both teams attack will score as neither D is stong enough to shut down so it comes down to which goalie makes the big saves at the right time. I ve seen Lovetts goalie be just ok (Harrison and Lass ist game) and Ive seen Milton's goalie be just Ok (First Lovett game. IF teams play to their potential this is which goalie can make that one extra save. I give coaching edge to Lovett, I give Mids to Milton and passion to Milton and I belive both attacks will score. Looking forward to this one and no I cant predict. HS kids have a funny way of not showing up all the time.....................................

LaxMessenger
05-06-2008, 10:34 AM
Same thing holds for Lassiter, young this year on attack and middie, loosing stud goalie, LSM and d-pole (or poles if one rising Sr. focuses on Football scholarship and not lacrosse-#22).

LHS won't miss those poles. They are slow. Lovett's attackers beat them from X and the wing the entire game. That's probably why 22 went after one of them. Don't protest and say you saw it clearly until you look at again. On his slide from the top of the crease, 22 lowered his head and led with his helmet. He should have been tossed. Maybe he should stick to his native game and leave this one to the real players. Pretty classy jeering, too, from Lassiter's students when the player couldn't get up without assistance. All in all, a good week for sportsmanship in East Cobb.

Fire_Truck
05-06-2008, 11:46 AM
Agree on West. Main reason is coaching in this one. Very hard to bet against West Coach. McInt certainly has earned their way but, i dont think they have the pers all the way through to get pat adjustments they will see.

Other game for me is a coin flip. Here's why and relax all of you with affiliations who are going to jump all over me for next statement..remember I am not affilaited and I go to these games only to enjoy and send some reports to thsoe colleges that have asked me to look around. I think Milton beat the best team in the state to be where they are now. And while everyone has analyzed the Milton Alpha game here are some facts - Milton's poles played well but, Alpha's attack had 8 of their goals - (#20 had four goals) - and missed or hit pipes on more than I could count. Faceoffs were even but, Alpha's deadly transtion game was stopped cold. Alpha's defense made adjustments but, other Milton guys stepped up. One comment I have no disagreement with is Milton's Middies outplayed Alpha's on both ends of the field and that was a big diff. BUT, the biggest was Milton's goalie because despite Alpha's mids being outplayed, their goalie being banged up, their transition stopped, their dumb mistakes - they had chances and Milton's goalie made unbelievable saves some in the first three minutes so:
Can Milton play with the same passion? - remember the crowd was intense
I think Milton's middies are fine with Lovetts and if they play like they did against Alpha will be better esp on faceoffs. Both teams attack will score as neither D is stong enough to shut down so it comes down to which goalie makes the big saves at the right time. I ve seen Lovetts goalie be just ok (Harrison and Lass ist game) and Ive seen Milton's goalie be just Ok (First Lovett game. IF teams play to their potential this is which goalie can make that one extra save. I give coaching edge to Lovett, I give Mids to Milton and passion to Milton and I belive both attacks will score. Looking forward to this one and no I cant predict. HS kids have a funny way of not showing up all the time.....................................

Yeah you can bet the crowd will be just as loud if not louder...and I really think that miltons attack diddnt play as well against alpha as they did against lovett...no one for lovett really stood out to me when I watched them play
but you are right about the middies making the difference in that game

laxshooter18
05-06-2008, 12:16 PM
Actually the three teams who made it to the semis are all pretty young. Milton, Lovett, and Westminister all have lots of talented juniors I'm going to have to completely disagree with you.

Read my post "I'd be shocked if we had the same 8 or 16 in the playoffs next year that we have this year. A few teams are loosing a ton of Seniors."

Again, a few teams (in the top 8 or 16 - not Semis) are loosing a ton of Seniors. I'm not saying they don't have any Jrs - just that the make up, and playoff likelyhood, will be changing significantly for some.

West. has 10 or 11 Seniors, I think. Alpharetta and Roswell have a ton as does Etowah. Not sure about the others

luvitatLS
05-06-2008, 01:12 PM
LHS won't miss those poles. They are slow. Lovett's attackers beat them from X and the wing the entire game. That's probably why 22 went after one of them. Don't protest and say you saw it clearly until you look at again. On his slide from the top of the crease, 22 lowered his head and led with his helmet. He should have been tossed. Maybe he should stick to his native game and leave this one to the real players. Pretty classy jeering, too, from Lassiter's students when the player couldn't get up without assistance. All in all, a good week for sportsmanship in East Cobb.

yeah there are some pretty bad fans out there, but hitting is part of the game. the only difference is kids aren't looking for it in lacrosse. he needed help getting up, big deal. ive seen kids get hurt on lot lesser hits.

Lax-A-Tive
05-06-2008, 03:05 PM
The point is, there is really no need for that kind of a hit. Some people thought it was fine/legal and some didn't. I'm pretty sure some kids don't think about the hit before they lower the boom on someone just as I know some kids do take cheap shots. Do you really want to be the kid who breaks someone's neck because you are pissed off. I've seen plenty of hits on players long after they've scored or passed off. Legal doesn't always make it right or necessary. Refs, coaches and players need to do all they can to protect these kids. I would hate to see measures taken the day after some kid gets paralyzed or dies on the field. Please don't give me any immature meathead responses to a serious problem. Kids that can't play hit, kids that can, let their sticks do the work.

NED
05-06-2008, 03:14 PM
What camps are people going to this year?

keylimepie111
05-06-2008, 04:20 PM
Ned I think everyone here is still focus on the season. Try the summer camps forum.
On a different note what are Mc's odds of beating Coach S... I mean Westminister. Do you think they will beat the power house, or get overwhelmed by the pressure.

Lax-A-Tive
05-06-2008, 04:56 PM
I'm thinking McIntosh over Westminster in a close one and Milton over Lovett, also in a close one. I think McIntosh has more talent than Westminster and I think Milton is playing at a higher level than Lovett. Also, I still think Lovett's defense is made up of a bunch of girly men that can be easily pushed around. Lovett becomes Milton's "bee yotch" this week. See you all at the McMilton Final.

Hoolax
05-06-2008, 05:05 PM
I'm thinking McIntosh over Westminster in a close one and Milton over Lovett, also in a close one. I think McIntosh has more talent than Westminster and I think Milton is playing at a higher level than Lovett. Also, I still think Lovett's defense is made up of a bunch of girly men that can be easily pushed around. Lovett becomes Milton's "bee yotch" this week. See you all at the McMilton Final.

Sorry lax-a-tive, the balance of power in Georgia HS Lacrosse remains in Buckhead (ITP).

Westminster 12 Peachtree City 10
Lovett 9 Milton 8

flowtowin
05-06-2008, 05:51 PM
yet again, laxative has done a very good job pick on, and picking against his former and favorite team in order to motivate them. maybe we should all use this tactic...?

B1ackout
05-06-2008, 06:09 PM
too bad for him AA and all state voting is before the playoffs...

and i beleive that milton goalie got recognized... not sure anyone help me out here? 1st team all state... so you cant blame Miltons regular season on a player not getting recognized, if one of his teammates does...

Ben Hostetler has been recognized every year he has started varsity and that includes his freshman year. Many feel that he did get under-recognized if thats a word. Because his defense was faulty and inconsistent this year it was tough to be recognized as the best goalie in state, which he might very well be. That being said #24 has always been a good players. He just didnt start to shine until it mattered and that is during the playoffs. personally if i was still playing id rather have an ok season not get recognized and then get on fire in the playoffs and help give my team a chance at state.

split-to-roll
05-06-2008, 06:17 PM
Ben Hostetler has been recognized every year he has started varsity and that includes his freshman year. Many feel that he did get under-recognized if thats a word. Because his defense was faulty and inconsistent this year it was tough to be recognized as the best goalie in state, which he might very well be. That being said #24 has always been a good players. He just didnt start to shine until it mattered and that is during the playoffs. personally if i was still playing id rather have an ok season not get recognized and then get on fire in the playoffs and help give my team a chance at state.

Ben is a great goalie, but he didn't have as good of a year as he did last year. I was borderline surprised they gave him first team again.

But that last part is very true. He and #24 are playing great in the playoffs, and I'm sure thats all they care about.

Sack Attack
05-06-2008, 06:32 PM
Ben is a great goalie, but he didn't have as good of a year as he did last year. I was borderline surprised they gave him first team again.

But that last part is very true. He and #24 are playing great in the playoffs, and I'm sure thats all they care about.

I concur with this statement.

justchillaxin88
05-06-2008, 08:27 PM
Ned I think everyone here is still focus on the season. Try the summer camps forum.
On a different note what are Mc's odds of beating Coach S... I mean Westminister. Do you think they will beat the power house, or get overwhelmed by the pressure.

eh, i think that west is playing really well right now and that the level that they are playing at as an entire team will be too much. It is not that they have one player who is on his A game, but they are all clicking and playing really well...

You have to watch out for their poles though... they are shooters, especially one of their LSM's. I have seen him take it to cage in a couple different games this season... had a deciding goal in the pace game...

Sack Attack
05-06-2008, 08:33 PM
had a deciding goal in the pace game...

Was not deciding, he scored to have them go up by 2 with 4 seconds left... They were going to win regardless of whether or not he took the shot.

flowtowin
05-06-2008, 08:42 PM
the pole who scored at the end of the game was seiler, a close d man. the LSM who scored earlier did have more of a deciding goal, #14 i believe.

justchillaxin88
05-06-2008, 08:51 PM
the pole who scored at the end of the game was seiler, a close d man. the LSM who scored earlier did have more of a deciding goal, #14 i believe.

This is the goal that i was reffering to... Seiler did score at the end of the game as well... he also scored in back to back games which is pretty awesome...(pace and roswell):thumbsup:

RIT37FO
05-06-2008, 09:05 PM
Ladies and gentleman.

Here is the deal

This thread is so very close to being closed and many points being handed out as well as some perma-bans.

PLEASE clean this up so we can all enjoy the forum with little moderator action.

LAST WARNING

thanks

-tfl mod squad

Laxdad1
05-06-2008, 09:05 PM
Lov/Milton Milton is playing the best ball in the state. This is the playoffs. It doesn't matter what happened during the season now. Milton outplayed Alpha. Hostetler has had a hot hand his last two games. If Milton can play a whole game, and that's what it will take, they will come out ahead. If they let up Coach B will drive his team right through it to victory. It's a close call. I admire the Lovett program and what it has done for lacrosse in Ga., but I'm getting sick of them. Kick their A--ES MILTON.

Westminster/McIntosh I'm not a big fan of McIn. but I respect what they have accomplished. They have played some tough teams and have hung in them. Their Pope win was a mild surprise. I have to give them the credit for beating SPX in another "sqeaker", but although some peaple believe SPX had a "great" year, I don't. Good record not a great year. Westm. has had an interesting year. Terrible goalie problems, and numerous injuries. They lost practically every big game they had. They started winning when they had to. They are pretty healthy and have a 5 game win streak at their back. I see it as a push, but I'm going with Westm. They've shown "guts" and determination in the Pace and Roswell games and they have Coach S.

It's been fun, hasn't it. Thanks to all four of these teams. Good luck Wednesday night.

Big Stick
05-06-2008, 09:41 PM
My predictions:

Milton 11 Lovett 9

McIntosh 8 Westminster 5

justchillaxin88
05-06-2008, 09:44 PM
i persoanlly keep going back and forth on the milton/lovett game...
as for west v mac....

west 10 mac 5

laxmiddy#23
05-06-2008, 10:12 PM
im not sure what the score was but my neighbor(a teacher at mcintosh) said they lost in the playoffs.

justchillaxin89
05-06-2008, 10:15 PM
im not sure what the score was but my neighbor(a teacher at mcintosh) said they lost in the playoffs.

um... game hasn't been played yet....:dummy:

calc1454
05-06-2008, 10:20 PM
I admire the Lovett program and what it has done for lacrosse in Ga., but I'm getting sick of them. Kick their A--ES MILTON..


Agreed. I hate good teams.

tigerlax22
05-06-2008, 10:54 PM
im not gonna be able to sleep tonight. all this back and forth talk is makin me jittery

ScooPs-33
05-06-2008, 11:08 PM
I admire the Lovett program and what it has done for lacrosse in Ga., but I'm getting sick of them. Kick their A--ES MILTON.


I am a Roswell player and I still would rather see Milton win state over West/Lov... I agree with you 1000% laxdad.

galax2009
05-06-2008, 11:23 PM
litton.....

rhslax25
05-06-2008, 11:27 PM
He's been discovered haha

Laxdad1
05-07-2008, 02:27 AM
What time is the Lov/Milton game? 7:00 or 7:30

ny2galax37
05-07-2008, 04:36 AM
What time is the Lov/Milton game? 7:00 or 7:30

7:00 P.M. @ Milton

rhsgoalie35
05-07-2008, 07:15 AM
Aahahaha it's about time someone discovered litton lol.

flowtowin
05-07-2008, 09:26 AM
i heard attackman #3 for west shattered his ankle yesterday in practice? No idea if this is true or not so do not look to me as a reliable source, thats just what one of my community coach buds told me. if this is true, however, i dont know that west will be able to produce the kind of offense that mcintosh will for sure put on the board. thoughts?

longpole58
05-07-2008, 10:31 AM
i heard attackman #3 for west shattered his ankle yesterday in practice? No idea if this is true or not so do not look to me as a reliable source, thats just what one of my community coach buds told me. if this is true, however, i dont know that west will be able to produce the kind of offense that mcintosh will for sure put on the board. thoughts?

A big loss if it's true.

luvitatLS
05-07-2008, 10:32 AM
I admire the Lovett program and what it has done for lacrosse in Ga., but I'm getting sick of them. Kick their A--ES MILTON.


Thank you laxdad, finally someone said it. go milton

Notre Dame
05-07-2008, 10:55 AM
A comment on hard hits. Lacrosse is not soccer, it's more like football. There is a limit as to how much you can protect someone. If there is a cheap shot or late hit, the refs need to flag it. My issue is that peple get hurt. Accept that as a given. A young goalie in Long Island died when he took a shot to the chest a few yaers ago. Should we ban shots at the goal above the waist? I don't think hard hits means someone is a goon or doesn't know how to play lacrosse "the right way". Some players are hackers, including attachmen who think a ride involves slashing away rather than moving there feet. My take on the Lovett play was the hit was clean. 22 lost awareness of what was happening around him and paid for a poorly timed "buddy pass". Up North this type of hit is expected and the palyers are more aware as a result. Putting more restrictions on Georgia lacrosse will make it a "softer" and safer version. Will it prepare Georgia kids for play at the college level? No! That's the choice you have to make. The rest of the country will not dumb down lacrosse to look like soccer. Teach kids how to become more aware and understand the results of losing that awareness. Let's hope the remaining games are well played and hard fought. That is the only way for Georgia to step up it game.

luvitatLS
05-07-2008, 12:11 PM
haha i love how u bash on soccer

laxshooter18
05-07-2008, 12:23 PM
McI 12-7 over West

Lovett 11-7 over Milton

ATLredgoalie55
05-07-2008, 12:31 PM
Aside from the regular season, I've been told theres supposed to be a senior all star game at lassiter. does anyone have any information on this?

Laxdad1
05-07-2008, 12:52 PM
I did not see #22 lower his head, and if he did that, I believe that is illegal. However, when you are in the vicinity of the crease all players have to be prepared to get "hit". I watced the Maryland game on Sunday and guys were getting flattened. Also, if you were at the Alpha/Milton game there were some "no-call" bad hits during a 30 second or so part of the game when some "hitting" started. One was of what I call "intentional" deliberate kind. It should have been called. The 3rd ref was right there. Unsportsmanlike would have
been proper. I agree with the comment concerning the "hacking" attackmen are famous for due to the lack of defensive skills. Especially when the ball carrier nears the center line and then the attackmen do their "tight-rope" thing, showy yes, but ineffective mostly. Attackmen need to improve their footwork. Many attackmen "loaf" when the ball changes possession. As a general comment, I have seen so many players running at full speed striking heel first more this year than ever before. General lack of running technique needs to be addressed. Just like soccer, I've seen many more "rule breaking" techniques used this year. Well placed elbows and the oldest under the arm holding stuff. Many refs are calling them the wrong way. Many players use these techniques, I know in football and soccer I did, but, the refs need improvement in recognizing these things and hopefully with time they will. Warding rules need to be stressed at ref clinics also.

A couple of suggestions for camps.
1. Get out of the south. Find the camps NEW YORK, Mass. Maryland guys go to. Gettesburg,
Roanoke, Top Gun in Vermont.
2.Specialty camp for shooting skills, Hampden Sydney College, Virginia, Coach Ray Rostan
I believe Roanoke has defensive specialty camp.

I'm getting testy about my predictions but, this time I'll resist changing my mind.

rhslax25
05-07-2008, 01:49 PM
Kids on Long Island are also shooting about 100 times faster than most kids down south...

Uh... no?

Maybe 10-15 mph faster in general...

luvitatLS
05-07-2008, 01:55 PM
yeah i agree with rhslax25. i doubt that most of the kids up there shoot upper 90's, maybe some but not most

rhslax25
05-07-2008, 02:04 PM
Aside from the regular season, I've been told theres supposed to be a senior all star game at lassiter. does anyone have any information on this?
http://www.georgialax.com/08allstargames.html

loganlax
05-07-2008, 02:11 PM
come on guys, speed does not equate to much on a shot. I will take 20 less MPH for accuracy any day!

Laxdad1
05-07-2008, 02:32 PM
Who's got the best shot in Ga Lacrosse for 2008?

I think Lamie has one of the top shots for a mid in the state. He has velocity and is very accurate between 10-15 yrds. He also hides his stick well.

laxshooter18
05-07-2008, 02:39 PM
Kids on Long Island are also shooting about 100 times faster than most kids down south...

Besides the obvious exaggeration, the speed of the shot is not what kills. It is the timing. Check out http://www.la12.org/ for more information. It happens every year, in many sports, at high school and college levels and even in the backyard.

laxshooter18
05-07-2008, 02:41 PM
come on guys, speed does not equate to much on a shot. I will take 20 less MPH for accuracy any day!

I agree, accuracy is more important.

Beta26
05-07-2008, 02:59 PM
Who's got the best shot in Ga Lacrosse for 2008

Best: Lamie, hands down the best shooter. Knows when, how and where to put the shot. When the ball is in his stick...there's a need to start worrying.

Runners Up: Kevin Reed (Milton) is an impressive shooter not because speed, but because of placement and when-to-shoot. Andrew Russell (Pope) has a very mean-looking lefty and had a ton of points (I think) this year. #5 for Harrison, Kupcewicz (sp?) is in Kevin Reed's league in terms of dodging to shoot.

Lamie is just downright scary to defenses.

ItalyLaxer11
05-07-2008, 05:00 PM
what about bender? last time i saw him play ('07) he had two goals from probably +15 yards. straight burners too. that kids shot is impressive

rhsgoalie35
05-07-2008, 05:11 PM
what about bender? last time i saw him play ('07) he had two goals from probably +15 yards. straight burners too. that kids shot is impressive

Yea, I definitely agree. Having seen all of the previously mentioned players shoot, I would say that Bender is right up there with Lamie for the best shot. I personally was not overly impressed with Kupcewicz's (sp?) shot but I have only seen him play once and it may have just been an off game.

rhslax25
05-07-2008, 06:10 PM
Stanton (Alpharetta) has quite the underhanded crank, as well.

loganlax
05-07-2008, 07:22 PM
McIntosh 10
Westminster 9
in OT

West. had a 3 goal lead with 3 minutes to go.....
Boys from southside going to the 'ship!

Sack Attack
05-07-2008, 08:36 PM
Lovett/Milton score?

Beta26
05-07-2008, 09:07 PM
Much suspense!

ny2galax37
05-07-2008, 09:07 PM
Lovett/Milton score?

9-4 Lovett in a runaway. Holy moly was this the same Milton team that took it to Alpharetta and had previously lost to Lovett by only a goal? They had no umpf. Lovett, on the other hand played, as aggressive a game as I've seen this year and their ball movement was outstanding. Owen Green has the fastest feet of an attackman in the state and he's durable as heck. I would have liked to have seen more of a game, but it sure was fun watching Lovett play lacrosse at the level they were at tonight.

B1ackout
05-07-2008, 09:15 PM
9-4 Lovett in a runaway. Holy moly was this the same Milton team that took it to Alpharetta and had previously lost to Lovett by only a goal? They had no umpf. Lovett, on the other hand played, as aggressive a game as I've seen this year and their ball movement was outstanding. Owen Green has the fastest feet of an attackman in the state and he's durable as heck. I would have liked to have seen more of a game, but it sure was fun watching Lovett play lacrosse at the level they were at tonight.

very accurate description. it seemed like milton couldn't do anything right. Lovett went up with a quick lead that they held all game. Milton only had a few great plays one was a behind the back by TJ Kenary and one was a sick outside shot by Kevin Reid, besides that though their offense did not play great. #37 i believe for Lovetts D played great today as did the rest of Lovetts D. They just seemed like they wanted it more.

lax_royalty
05-07-2008, 09:28 PM
I'm so sick of Lovett. It would be nice to see different teams in the championship for once. I really hope McIntosh comes ready to play because if Lovett wins a championship again, I'll go crazy. I think I'd rather have seen Alpharetta make it, and that is really hard for me to say.

Laxdad1
05-07-2008, 09:49 PM
ny2 is right on. You could tell from the get go. Milton had no ball movement and Lovett's attack owned them in the 1st, 4/1. 2nd started with an illegal 3 min. stick penalty on Milton's #16. Milton did score on man down, but Lovett put one in immediately. Half, Lov.6/3. Milton had a great chance when #33 got behind everyone in an unsettled situation,got a great pass but rushed the shot and Perrett blocked it. On the ensuing transition Lov scored and the 3rd ended 7/3. Lovett played a very good defensive game tonight.They rotated to the ball well. Their mids were agressive and Perrett, although not realy tested tonight, played well. I quess Milton just could not put 4 good games together. Lovett seemed relaxed and basically played a smart game. As I've said many times coaching, coaching, coaching.

Thanks for the thrills Milton. You made the end of the season exciting. Good luck to Lovett on Sat.

attacklax08
05-07-2008, 10:00 PM
so what all happened in the mcintosh westminster game?

Laxdad1
05-07-2008, 10:02 PM
come on. someone tell us what happened at McIn. When they lose, you notice how quiet they get. Wait till Sat, West girls have to face Milton again. Who sets those brackets, anyway?

tigerlax22
05-07-2008, 10:13 PM
i love me some 2 girls 1 cup.

AHSfarsh28
05-07-2008, 10:23 PM
I don't think that's a fair statement to make, it may seem like they didn't try but the point is they won. I think we can all agree that life will throw stuff at you that you don't think is fair or that you don't want. We had to go through that but regardless it is what it is. Those Lovett kids may not seem to have worked hard to deserve it or those Mcintosh guys may "play dirty" but in the end it is what it is and no one can change it. Let's try commenting more on the matchups rather than what is fair...there are many things that we think are fair that didn't happen. Sorry for the loss TJ, but this will make you more hungry for next year, good luck to you

laxrunner
05-07-2008, 10:26 PM
tigerlax please go watch a westminster lovett or milton practice before you say such ridiculous comments as "teams dont work hard"

how can stick skills just be given to someone? i suggest you rethink your statement

rhslax25
05-07-2008, 10:29 PM
Agreed. Pretty ridiculous statement right there. Congrats to Milton, though.

galax2009
05-07-2008, 10:43 PM
im sick of watching teams winning state when they dont even care about it anymore. georgia lacrosse is boring, nobody plays with any heart. the milton girls probably wont even think twice about winning another one, its like christmas:exciting but expected to arrive the same time every year. and lovett plays well but they dont seem like they have to work hard, they just come from an overpaid private school program and have a ridiculous advantage. same goes for westminster, even though they lost. and mcintosh just plays dirty, id rather see them win but its not even legit lacrosse. if milton was still in it too its hard to watch a team that doesn't put effort into every game go all the way. ive never seen so many jogging final four athletes in my life

what is the ridiculous advantage? Lovett is AA and westminster is moving to AA next year while many of the other lacrosse power houses in georgia are AAAAA. wouldnt that be more of a disadvantage considering how many less guys there are to field a team with? sorry if your bitter about a loss to both of those schools but no need for a comment like that. good luck next year

ItalyLaxer11
05-07-2008, 11:02 PM
Woodward academy enrolls somewhere around 2,00o students. Is a top private school. and yet our lacrosse team does not win 3 outta the past 5 state championships.
We are also one of the states older programs, and we pull from a much larger area than lovett.
and yet we are still not as successful as lovett.
There is the answer to the debate

tigerlax22
05-07-2008, 11:07 PM
what is the ridiculous advantage? Lovett is AA and westminster is moving to AA next year while many of the other lacrosse power houses in georgia are AAAAA. wouldnt that be more of a disadvantage considering how many less guys there are to field a team with? sorry if your bitter about a loss to both of those schools but no need for a comment like that. good luck next year

i never wrote that.

tigerlax22
05-07-2008, 11:09 PM
Woodward academy enrolls somewhere around 2,00o students. Is a top private school. and yet our lacrosse team does not win 3 outta the past 5 state championships.
We are also one of the states older programs, and we pull from a much larger area than lovett.
and yet we are still not as successful as lovett.
There is the answer to the debate

because nobody likes academies. and lacrosse is for people who fold their jerseys before games like lovett.

galax2009
05-07-2008, 11:18 PM
bitter bitter bitter

calc1454
05-07-2008, 11:19 PM
because nobody likes academies. and lacrosse is for people who fold their jerseys before games like lovett.

Haha i like this tigerlax kid, even though he has a lot of ridiculous comments. And i am sure the kids work hard in practice. The kids might act lathargic because they play smart and do not do unnecessary things, but think what you want. Yeah and i hear that they pay their coaches 10,000 dollars every game they win. Just what i hear tho. (sarcastic)

laxdog27
05-07-2008, 11:40 PM
Woodward academy enrolls somewhere around 2,00o students. Is a top private school. and yet our lacrosse team does not win 3 outta the past 5 state championships.
We are also one of the states older programs, and we pull from a much larger area than lovett.
and yet we are still not as successful as lovett.
There is the answer to the debate


Woodward's problem has been coaching since the beginning of time.

Bexican 408
05-07-2008, 11:49 PM
West was leading by 1 going into the half, i think it was 6-5.
Was tied going into the fourth, and west had a 3 goal lead with about 1;15 left, and let the game slip away from them. mac had a dump in goal, then won the next two face offs and scored quickly. in OT, during a horn, west lost track of 45 (i think it was him) and he was wide open for a 7 yard shot...
fair warning to lovett, Mcintosh will play dirty, just be ready for it... kicking poeple, late hits and hitting people in the back...

It was 4 to 3 going to half time.
West got up 9 to 6 with 3:15 left.
McIntosh scored 1, then won 2 more faceoffs to fast break to score.
go to OT 9 to 9
McIntosh wins faceoff, missed shot, chased by McI attack.
While subbing, 45 on McIntosh had a 10 yard run on his defender and scored 33 seconds into OT for win.

And i dont recall anyone kicking any one but say what you want. :bull:

Sack Attack
05-07-2008, 11:51 PM
Sounds like a strategic error/coaching mistake by Westminster cost them the game... Unlike the Wildcats.

Thoughts on the championship? I'm taking Lovett by 5.

flowtowin
05-08-2008, 08:32 AM
hmm championship game i will say lovett 12 mcintosh 5

lovett will control this game the entire way for many reasons the number one being coaching. Mcintosh is a good team, but they will not match up with lovett in any way. look to lovett's attack to dominate mc's poles in every way possible and put in at least 8 goals. lovett's peterson and williams will dominate the mc attack because of lacking stick protection on mc's attack's part.

mcintosh squeeked away with a win last night and they know they are lucky to have gotten that one. not to take anything away from them but it seemed evident that west was the better team. but at the end of the day the score board is all that matters and mcintosh won.

they will not be so lucky vs a very strong lovett team and lovett will come away with the trophy. maybe hicks will be at the game to show mcintosh what they are to do with the runner up trophy...?

Lax-A-Tive
05-08-2008, 10:18 AM
Went to the Lovett/Milton game. I had predicted a Milton win but Lovett prevailed. I thought after Milton's victory over AHS and their one goal loss to Lovett during the regular season that they would come out on fire but such was not the case. Lovett dominated from start to finish and the game wasn't as close as the score would lead you to believe. I always thought Lov's defense was the weakest part of their game but lately it seems as though they have picked it up. Maybe may past posts have motivated them. If so, your team can rent me out next year to provide the same incentives. In the Lassiter game it was No. 2 doing the damage, last night it was No. 7 (I think he had 5 or 6 goals against a very good Milton goalie). They seem to have the ability to come at you in so many ways. That being said, McIntosh has come a long way and didn't have an easy road to get to the final game. They are to be congratulated on their wins over Pope and Westminster. I'm not picking a winner because I think anything can happen in a final game. Lastly, I hope what I've read about Mc being a dirty team doesn't prove true in the final. I've seen them play twice and I didn't see that "side" of them. Both teams need to play hard and forget about the dirty stuff. This is the championship game and hopefully both teams will conduct themselves like champions. As you so often hear "Honor the Game". Lastly, lets see a big turnout on Saturday. If you hate Lovett, as so many of you seem to do, then maybe you will get the chance to see them lose to Mc. If you love them, maybe your night will be a good one. Win or lose, both teams are to be congratulated. P.S., I don't think Hicks will be at the game since he will be getting ready for ND's first round NCAA game against Colgate.

LAXFANatl
05-08-2008, 02:10 PM
there have been a few posts over the years on this board critical of the GLOA officials.

in the spirit of "honor the game," here are a few suggestions:

1. buy the NFHS rule book and read it (and recommend the same to the parents and others in your program).

2. those of you that have the time, become a certified lacrosse official. you will quickly find out how hard it is to officiate a lacrosse game, no matter how long you've been involved with the sport. the need for officials is critical at all levels (HS, MS and younger, boys and girls).

3. some have advocated more training and travel to out-of-state training opportunities. please donate to the Kevin Moore fund to help fund these activities - www.galaxref.com/kevinmoore

the goal is to encourage more people to become officials and reinforce them in a positive way. too often, the newest officials are treated very poorly and some choose not to return. the only way to success is too officiate more games. it takes YEARS to become a good official.

no official is perfect. they all make mistakes, just like the players and the coaches and the fans.

to paraphrase an old chinese proverb

"those that can, do. those that can't, criticize."

good luck to both teams in the championship this saturday.

LAXFANatl
05-08-2008, 06:50 PM
nobody likes you, zebra shirt man. make like a certain goalie we all know and go get your vision checked. ive seen better eyes on a sewing needle

Kevin Moore was a friend of mine and a dedicated GLOA official. He died in 2006 at the age of 38 from a sudden heart attack. your pitiful attempt at humor is sorely misplaced and says much about your character or lack thereof.

LaxFanatyx
05-08-2008, 07:45 PM
there have been a few posts over the years on this board critical of the GLOA officials.

in the spirit of "honor the game," here are a few suggestions:

1. buy the NFHS rule book and read it (and recommend the same to the parents and others in your program).

2. those of you that have the time, become a certified lacrosse official. you will quickly find out how hard it is to officiate a lacrosse game, no matter how long you've been involved with the sport. the need for officials is critical at all levels (HS, MS and younger, boys and girls).

3. some have advocated more training and travel to out-of-state training opportunities. please donate to the Kevin Moore fund to help fund these activities - www.galaxref.com/kevinmoore

the goal is to encourage more people to become officials and reinforce them in a positive way. too often, the newest officials are treated very poorly and some choose not to return. the only way to success is too officiate more games. it takes YEARS to become a good official.

no official is perfect. they all make mistakes, just like the players and the coaches and the fans.

to paraphrase an old chinese proverb

"those that can, do. those that can't, criticize."

good luck to both teams in the championship this saturday.

I've publicly criticized officiating before but never trashed them. SOME offficials in GA are very thin-skinned about any critiquing. Criticism positively given should not be dismissed.

Most people of this board really care about the game and want to see the level of play in GA rise up. For that to happen, it will take the players, coaches, parents, school administrators, athletic administrators and the officials all taking things up a notch. Nobody ought to expect a free pass.

I for one would like to see High School programs require that the players and parents have a copy of the rules and sign an agreement that they have read the rules. If not, then the player can't be on the team. I don't think GHSA can mandate it but I think individual schools can make that a part of their programs. I laugh at a lot of comments I hear at games. There's an old adage that says it's better to keep your mouth shut and be thought of as stupid than speak and dispel any doubt. I'd also like to see some of the "public announcers" at games at least learn the officials hand signs and verbally relay the officials call.

I'd like to see more varsity players volunteer some time as community coaches or assistant coaches in the youth leagues. Same for officiating some of those games. Great opportunities to make a positive contribution.

In 10 years lacrosse has grown from literally a handful of teams (boys, girls, jv, & youth leagues) to who knows how many now. I'm amazed that the sport has been able to provide enough officials to keep up.

I really like your suggestion about making donations to foster additional training for officials. Kevin Moore was a great lax ref. Ron Mallonee was another. Both were great guys too. There are plenty of other creative ways to foster improvement. Maybe a pow wow of officials & head coaches could come up with some ideas of how the GA lacrosse community could help.

Everybody likes to ***** about officiating. Everybody ought to quit whining and do something positive to help make it better.

Big Stick
05-08-2008, 07:58 PM
Is there anyone else here who is on team georgia?

blahblah1234
05-08-2008, 09:01 PM
Everybody likes to ***** about officiating. Everybody ought to quit whining and do something positive to help make it better.

its not bad officiating, its one-sided officiating throughout a period of a game that pisses people off.

Snake~eyes
05-08-2008, 09:12 PM
Thread is very close to being locked.

Run-DMC
05-08-2008, 09:30 PM
Is there anyone else here who is on team georgia?

Yeah I am, PM me if you want to talk more.

Sack Attack
05-08-2008, 09:41 PM
Thread is very close to being locked.

Can you not just ban someone instead of closing an entire thread because of one person?

ItalyLaxer11
05-08-2008, 09:58 PM
i am also on team Ga. pm me

Snake~eyes
05-08-2008, 10:02 PM
Can you not just ban someone instead of closing an entire thread because of one person?

It's not one person, several people are acting up 3-5 people have received warnings in that last 2 days in this thread. It's becoming a hastle to moderate just this thread.

galax2009
05-09-2008, 12:11 AM
It's not one person, several people are acting up 3-5 people have received warnings in that last 2 days in this thread. It's becoming a hastle to moderate just this thread.

then just ban them. i dont know what else will keep me distracted from my work

Laxdad1
05-09-2008, 12:35 AM
Why is the game at 7PM

flowtowin
05-09-2008, 07:22 AM
state championship is at 7? oh wow...has it ever been a night game before....ever?

LAXFANatl
05-09-2008, 08:21 AM
lovett girls soccer in same stadium at 2 pm for state championship.

lovett beat westminster in 2002 for championship on a wednesday night game played at roswell high school.

Laxdad1
05-09-2008, 09:13 AM
There is a chance of rain. Move it to turf, like Westm. down the street and change the time to 4:00. The game should be played on a nuetral field anyways.

If this forum were the oddsmakers in Vegas, what would be the betting odds on this game?

Did anyone see that Eric Soto is on the south roster of the 2008 National Senoir Showcase team. Does anyone know what some of the other potential recruits are doing this summer?

lax_royalty
05-09-2008, 09:25 AM
I don't think Westminster would be too happy about having the championship played on their turf when they aren't in it. That would just be a slap in the face.

Hoolax
05-09-2008, 10:16 AM
I don't think Westminster would be too happy about having the championship played on their turf when they aren't in it. That would just be a slap in the face.
I think Westminster would be fine with hosting the event, we have graciously hosted many events in the past. The issue however is that our turf field has no seating.

luvitatLS
05-09-2008, 10:21 AM
pius has a great turf field and tons of seating too, just a possibility

Beta26
05-09-2008, 10:30 AM
Did anyone see that Eric Soto is on the south roster of the 2008 National Senoir Showcase team. Does anyone know what some of the other potential recruits are doing this summer?

In terms of graduating seniors, everyone's pretty much made up their minds on where they are going. I would say we get the all state list up here and put the seniors' colleges but with 103 of them....that would be frustrating to read...let alone to put together.

A good rising seniors (current juniors) team is the shockers coached by (I beleive) Buczyk, Souza and Gannon. Owen Green, Parker Frost, TJ Kenary and Erickson are some of the name currently/previously on that team.

There's about 500 camps this summer in da souf, too.

Lax-A-Tive
05-09-2008, 11:00 AM
Although I understand why a neutral field makes sense, I think that neither Lovett or McIntosh wants to go to a school far from their location (I guess everywhere is far from McIntosh) to play the championship game. I believe that the best team (left standing based on record, etc.) should get to play at home. Several years ago Westminster and Lovett played at Chattohooche and the only people there were the West/Lovett parents and some kids from Chattahoochee. To the winner goes the spoils and one of the two remaining teams should get to play before their home fans. See you Saturday night at Lovett.

World_B_Free
05-09-2008, 11:21 AM
Why don't we call and see if the Georgia Dome is available??

doublelax
05-09-2008, 12:07 PM
Is anyone on here playing at Bagataway next week?