Ga Lacrosse

[blahblah1234]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=NtxB5bBQMZk

[Crew_Socks]

This is the list via lax power of the Ga High School Commitments so far...any others that werent added??

Recruits2008 Database
ID Div Name Hometown State HighSchool HS_St Position Status College
1791 3 Krupa, Dylan Marietta GA Alan C. Pope GA Midfield R Birmingham-Southern
754 3 Pearce, Matt Alpharetta GA Alpharetta GA Midfield/FO R Vassar
907 3 Feuerstein, Jared Alpharetta GA Alpharetta GA Defense W Connecticut College
2103 P Mastowy, Brad Alpharetta GA Alpharetta NY Midfield U Trinity-Pawling School
1407 3 Joseph, Noah Roswell GA Blessed Trinity/Emory GA Midfield TR Mount St. Joseph
1196 3 Szabo, Jason Alpharetta GA Centennial GA Attack R Western Connecticut
1790 3 Danek, Beau Alpharetta GA Chattahoochee GA Attack R Birmingham-Southern
2305 3 Maxwell, Clay Atlanta GA Christ School NC Attack W Hampden-Sydney
2179 3 Clarke, Chris Decatur GA Decatur GA Defense/LSM R Birmingham-Southern
1449 2 Tortorello, Mark Woodstock GA Etowah GA Midfield S Tennessee Wesleyan
1822 2 LeMoine, Jonathan Woodstock GA Etowah GA Goalie S Tennessee Wesleyan
1788 3 Curtis, Austin Acworth GA Harrison GA Midfield R Birmingham-Southern
1044 3 Lukens, Davis Marietta GA Holy Innocents' Episcopal GA Attack/Midfield R Denison
990 2 McNitt, Michael Kennesaw GA Kennesaw Mountain GA Midfield S Tennessee Wesleyan
989 2 Montague, John Kennesaw GA Kennesaw Mountain GA Midfield S Tennessee Wesleyan
1027 3 Hammock, Phil Marietta GA Lassiter GA Defense R Roanoke
2023 3 Elwood, Hank Marietta GA Lassiter GA Defense R Birmingham-Southern
1133 1 Huggins, Jon Marietta GA Lassiter/Air Force Prep GA Midfield/FO R Air Force
1586 2 Duchemin, Steven Powder Springs GA McEachern GA Midfield S Tennessee Wesleyan
1786 3 Bexley, David Peachtree City GA McIntosh GA Defense R Birmingham-Southern
1787 3 Ward, D.J. Peachtree City GA McIntosh GA Attack R Birmingham-Southern
1789 3 DeRosa, Nathan Peachtree City GA McIntosh GA Defense R Birmingham-Southern
1883 U Pike, Bryan Alpharetta GA Milton GA Attack/Midfield W Auburn
925 2 Kratzer, Justin Greenville GA North Cobb GA Midfield/FO R Tennessee Wesleyan
2232 3 Rubin, Matthew Marietta GA Pope GA Midfield R Wooster
588 1 Soto, Eric Marietta GA Pope GA Defense/LSM E Hobart
957 U Guerra, Jonathan Marietta GA Pope GA Defense R Brigham Young
1515 U Flood, Andrew Marietta GA Pope GA Goalie R Lindenwood
1326 3 Work, Jonathan Atlanta GA Riverwood GA Attack R Birmingham-Southern
1370 3 Francis, Robert Atlanta GA Riverwood GA Midfield R Birmingham-Southern
1723 1 Gleason, Andrew Roswell GA Roswell GA Midfield/FO W Notre Dame
430 3 Litton, David Roswell GA Roswell GA Defense R Birmingham-Southern
1648 U Greenough, Ben Marietta GA Sprayberry GA Defense/LSM W Georgia
1078 2 Willeson, Tyler Peachtree City GA Starr's Mill GA Defense/LSM S Tennessee Wesleyan
1795 3 Hyde, Cameron Acworth GA Woodstock GA Midfield R Birmingham-Southern

This cannot be the entire list? Where is Bender going? What about all the Lovett kids? Haha and it seems like Tennessee Wesleyan and Birmingham Southern are using the get the best players from mediocre team strategy that Tennessee Wesleyan was trying hard to do last year....

[ny2galax37]

Bender is going to the University of Virginia. Birmingham Southern, by the way, picked up 5 All-State players (including the two top LSMs from GA) from 3 playoff teams, including runner-up McIntosh. I don't see that as the best players from mediocre teams.

[blahblah1234]

Bender is going to the University of Virginia. Birmingham Southern, by the way, picked up 5 All-State players (including the two top LSMs from GA) from 3 playoff teams, including runner-up McIntosh. I don't see that as the best players from mediocre teams.

they also got a handful from riverwood.

[Beta26]

This cannot be the entire list? Where is Bender going? What about all the Lovett kids? Haha and it seems like Tennessee Wesleyan and Birmingham Southern are using the get the best players from mediocre team strategy that Tennessee Wesleyan was trying hard to do last year....

A lot of people don't put themselves on laxpower. So there will always be people not on their database.

Haha Tennessee-Wesleyan. I love how they tell kids they're "D2" when they forget to add "MCLA Division 2" to the front of that. All of those kids think they're playing NCAA, meanwhile back in reality they get worked by Emory, UNC-Charlotte, etc.

Birmingham Southern is doing the smart thing and building their roster with some big numbers. With a new program, the last thing they need is only 15 kids on their squad.

[Statman]

Here are the numbers I have of a few schools:

Lassiter-8


9 when you count Seth. I have them with 20 rising Seniors to pull from, with Goalie, one LSM and one D-pole as main holes to fill.

[GAmc9]

Soto is going to UMass instead of Hobart now.

[GAmc9]

Are any Juniors or underclassmen joining the select team this summer coached by Walton's Tim Pritts?

[luvitatLS]

Are any Juniors or underclassmen joining the select team this summer coached by Walton's Tim Pritts?

i know a few

[Crew_Socks]

True Birmingham Southern is getting a lotta good players...I just knew some from some schools who you guys definitly wouldnt count as good...but they are definitly not on the level of Tennessee Wesleyan...That school has about 500 kids at it, the players are all extremely cocky and over confident...They are just a mediocre MCLA D2 team....not quite at that true D2 level...haha the school doesnt even have a facebook registry

[Honors the Game]

Bender is going to the University of Virginia.

I heard around mid-season that Bender was going to UGA, not UVA ... either way, both great schools.

[ny2galax37]

I heard around mid-season that Bender was going to UGA, not UVA ... either way, both great schools.

Initially, he was leaning towards the Honors Program at UGA. It came down to the last week before he made his decision. After visiting both schools, he decided UVA was a better fit.

[ItalyLaxer11]

a close friend also told me that noonan from westminster will also attend UVA. can anyone confirm?

[Sack Attack]

a close friend also told me that noonan from westminster will also attend UVA. can anyone confirm?

Correct, as will Rhodes.

[Crew_Socks]

Impressive. Will any of those guys continue playing in college, or are they concentrating on academics?

[Beta26]

Impressive. Will any of those guys continue playing in college, or are they concentrating on academics?

If they do, it'll be club. Same situation as Bender, getting into a great D1 academic school usually means that if they have a lacrosse team...it's a good one (Duke, UVA, Hopkins, Georgetown, etc). Past GA players have gone to those schools like Corona, Cain, etc.

Education FIRST.

[ny2galax37]

If they do, it'll be club. Same situation as Bender, getting into a great D1 academic school usually means that if they have a lacrosse team...it's a good one (Duke, UVA, Hopkins, Georgetown, etc). Past GA players have gone to those schools like Corona, Cain, etc.

Education FIRST.

You got that right!

[Sack Attack]

Just found out Rhodes is actually going to Penn, not UVA.

[LaxFanatyx]

FYI ... UGA Club Lacrosse is playing in the MCLA Tournament in Dallas TX. Last night they played Sonoma State and won 19-15. Tonight they play #1 ranked Michigan.

[GeorgiaDolfan]

Follow UGA lacrosse at www.collegelax.us

[namrogo]

Are any Juniors or underclassmen joining the select team this summer coached by Walton's Tim Pritts?


are you talking about the team that goin to that tournament in NJ? I think i am i dont know for sure though

[GAmc9]

are you talking about the team that goin to that tournament in NJ? I think i am i dont know for sure though

yea that one. i signed up today

[attacklax08]

so what are the all american predictions for next year...

[Beta26]

so what are the all american predictions for next year...

These are the shoe-ins, in my opinion...

Midfield
Kevin Reed (Milton)
Lamie (Lassiter)
Frost (Pope)

Attack
Owen Green (Lovett)

Defense
VERY WIDE OPEN

Goalie
Hostetler (Milton)

[ny2galax37]

These are the shoe-ins, in my opinion...

Midfield
Kevin Reed (Milton)
Lamie (Lassiter)
Frost (Pope)

Attack
Owen Green (Lovett)

Defense
VERY WIDE OPEN

Goalie
Hostetler (Milton)

Beta - Great List!

Other possibilities:

Attack
Kevin Dunn (Milton)
TJ Kenary (Milton)

Midfield
Scott Dunleavie (Westminster)

Defense
Murphy ? (#24, Milton) - I think he was a junior this year
Mike Peterson (Lovett) - same thing
Scott Ratliff (Walton)

[Beta26]

Peachtree Ridge announced it's going GHSA for boys and girls lacrosse for the 2009 spring season. That almost assures that Collins Hill will also.

That is HUGE. Brookwood, Norcross, Grayson, North Gwinnett, Parkview are sure to be doing the same in the coming years (most likely).

Time to redraw the areas again.

[luvitatLS]

maybe eventually we can get actual divisions like A AA AAA AAAA AAAAA or at least areas divided by size

[Laxdad1]

Are any of you guys playing for teams going to the Bagataway tourny at St. Mtn this weekend? High school level.

[laxn29]

#24 from Milton was Joseph Burton he was one of two starting seniors to leave the other was #6, and #4 who played alot at the end of the year is also leaving other than that all starters are back.

[Sack Attack]

Peterson was a senior.

[blahblah1234]

Beta - Great List!

Other possibilities:

Attack
Kevin Dunn (Milton)
TJ Kenary (Milton)

Midfield
Scott Dunleavie (Westminster)

Defense
Murphy ? (#24, Milton) - I think he was a junior this year
Mike Peterson (Lovett) - same thing
Scott Ratliff (Walton)

3x from milton? LAWL

[Who Cares?]

Some one needs to start a new GA lacrosse thread.

[rhsgoalie35]

3x from milton? LAWL

The D-pole is graduating but both of the attackmen are IMO of the best 5, maybe even 3, in the state next year. Those two along with Kevin Reed and Ben Hostetler, the odds-on favorite for AA goalie next year, I really don't think it's unreasonable to believe that Milton has the players to potentially produce 3 All-Americans in 2009.

[blahblah1234]

The D-pole is graduating but both of the attackmen are IMO of the best 5, maybe even 3, in the state next year. Those two along with Kevin Reed and Ben Hostetler, the odds-on favorite for AA goalie next year, I really don't think it's unreasonable to believe that Milton has the players to potentially produce 3 All-Americans in 2009.

just like some people think HIES deserved more than the repeat of Lukens.

[Beta26]

just like some people think HIES deserved more than the repeat of Lukens.

I was a little surprised Georgakakos didn't get it.

The all-state system in Georgia is messed up anyways. 103 total selections? 5 1st team attackmen? 3 1st team goalies? 4 middies from Harrison? Talk about everyone gets a trophy.

I digress...

[Run-DMC]

Are any of you guys playing for teams going to the Bagataway tourny at St. Mtn this weekend? High school level.

Why yes I am Laxdad. Will you be in attendance?

[Laxdad1]

Why yes I am Laxdad. Will you be in attendance?
Well, No. I was Just trying to drum up some conversation. Many of these guys go out for these teams, make it and then land up playing for another team. I'd be interested to know who is on the Buczek,Souza,Gannon team this year. Also the Copperheads and and Trident teams.What Tournaments they are going to.

[namrogo]

yea that one. i signed up today

yea im playin too. what school do you go to?

[Run-DMC]

Well, No. I was Just trying to drum up some conversation. Many of these guys go out for these teams, make it and then land up playing for another team. I'd be interested to know who is on the Buczek,Souza,Gannon team this year. Also the Copperheads and and Trident teams.What Tournaments they are going to.

There are so many people at this tournament. Bamalax, Stars, Team Georgia, Copperheads (who won their first two games 15-0 and 16-0) Team Trident, and many many more. They also have a huge tournament shop. if you have a chance you should probably go, its worth it. If/when the copperheads win, I believe they qualify of the NDP tourney in Orlando, and are already going to one in Charlotte, around the same time that the Gettysburg clash was scheduled (which got cancelled)

Oh and Team Georgia beat Team Trident :).

[Beta26]

Oh and Team Georgia beat Team Trident :).

How are the hs teams/games looking?

It's always funny with travel teams from the same state play each other. Bragging rights for the players...and coaches are on the line...

[Run-DMC]

The copperheads (a select hs team) beat bamalax in braveheart overtime, it was quite interesting. All of the travel teams are looking pretty good, there are some I didnt watch but there is lots of raw talent at the tourney.

[Beta26]

Bamalax beat Team Georgia today by a few. I believe they (bama) went undefeated this weekend.

Trident beat Team Georgia in the HS division today in braveheart with a pole (Ratliff from Walton) beating a (I believe) middie from McIntosh.

Trident and Team Georgia will face each other again later in the summer, that should be good.

[Run-DMC]

Wow. Team Georgia dropped both of them. Im pretty sure there were two bamalax teams correct? That Trident 1 team must be pretty good. Did the copperheads go undefeated as expected?

[GAmc9]

yea im playin too. what school do you go to?

i play for pope

[Beta26]

Wow. Team Georgia dropped both of them. Im pretty sure there were two bamalax teams correct? That Trident 1 team must be pretty good. Did the copperheads go undefeated as expected?

Copperheads went undefeated in the 15 year old division. My buddy coached them this weekend. They had a 10 minute braveheart or something ridiculous like that.

Team Georgia and Trident looked good in their own ways...esp considering that they have had minimal practices...if any. Team Ga had good individuals and could ISO well..but looked to feed instead of taking easier shots. Trident flourished more in transition with a run/gun style of play.

I would expect Bamalax to do pretty well...their best player (that I noticed, perhaps more) was a graduating senior this year and is going to the naval academy (#31). Playing with graduating seniors in summer tournies = bad form.

[Run-DMC]

Copperheads went undefeated in the 15 year old division. My buddy coached them this weekend. They had a 10 minute braveheart or something ridiculous like that.

Team Georgia and Trident looked good in their own ways...esp considering that they have had minimal practices...if any. Team Ga had good individuals and could ISO well..but looked to feed instead of taking easier shots. Trident flourished more in transition with a run/gun style of play.

I would expect Bamalax to do pretty well...their best player (that I noticed, perhaps more) was a graduating senior this year and is going to the naval academy (#31). Playing with graduating seniors in summer tournies = bad form.

I watched the braveheart overtime. It was FANTASTIC. You could tell both players were getting tired as shots kept missing and goalies kept saving them. It lasted a good 10 min. Copperheads are nasty.

[Lacrossebum03]

If/when the copperheads win, I believe they qualify of the NDP tourney in Orlando.

Correction: Wesley Chapel, FL (near Tampa) with the Host team being the Tampa Tribe. The tournament was fun for us guys in FL to come up for our first games of the year. The fields were questionable, but it was a good tournament. Btw, Copperheads looked pretty beastly, I won't lie.

[Run-DMC]

Correction: Wesley Chapel, FL (near Tampa) with the Host team being the Tampa Tribe. The tournament was fun for us guys in FL to come up for our first games of the year. The fields were questionable, but it was a good tournament. Btw, Copperheads looked pretty beastly, I won't lie.

My apologies. They will be there then, I suppose.

[ItalyLaxer11]

the copperheads were u16(rising stars) division. I have a few friends on the team, and they are VERY good considering they barely practice together.
Trident was a very fast team who made very few mistakes, i liked their style of play. The pole who took that braveheart was absolutely fantastic, forcing three turnovers, regaining one, and completely destroyed the goalie in front of cage to win it. It was impressive
I'm on team GA u15, and we were swept pretty much in our game vs bamalax. The u15 bamalax gave up 2 goals the whole tourny( i scored one on a turnover i forced on a clear)
The other bamalax teams were also very good, and the bamlax-copperhead braveheart was EPIC.

[Run-DMC]

Yeah that pole who did the braveheart (Ratliff from Walton) is SO good.

[Laxnuthin']

FYI, Trident 1 beat Team Georgia in a braveheart.

[rhslax25]

https://www.georgialacrosseclassic.com/Rosters__Boys.html

Allstar team rosters have been posted.

Congrats to all selected, hope to see a bunch of people out there that weekend.

[doublelax]

The Bamlax Elite crushed Trident #1 in the finals 13-2. The Bamalax U15 spanked Team Ga 9-1 in the semi finals and then completly dismantled the defending champion Carolina Cyclones 8-3 in the finals. The Bamalax B team lost to the Copperheads in a great game.

[Crew_Socks]

Nice to see *some* diversity on that "All Star Classic" Game...

[Run-DMC]

Hahaha I didnt know Soto went to Alpharetta :P

[btgoalie21]

Im kinda mad that Bamalax brought their senior team in a u17 tournament, it was supposed to be rising seniors that were supposed to be the oldest there, o well we didnt do to bad against bamalax in the final that was our 4th game of the day and half of our team had to leave because they had finals. O well it was a fun tourney.

[Laxnuthin']

The Bamlax Elite crushed Trident #1 in the finals 13-2. The Bamalax U15 spanked Team Ga 9-1 in the semi finals and then completly dismantled the defending champion Carolina Cyclones 8-3 in the finals. The Bamalax B team lost to the Copperheads in a great game.

Bamalax = graduated seniors = poor form for a tournament team to be playing HIGH SCHOOL level ball

[btgoalie21]

Bamalax = graduated seniors = poor form for a tournament team to be playing HIGH SCHOOL level ball


Totally agree with you, i knew there was something wrong when i heard that these guys were graduated seniors and i had a navy recruit shooting elevator shots at me, o well 31 only scored once against me out of 4 shots so thats good for me.

[Beta26]

Ah, here's the article that came out in the paper...referring to Gwinnett allowing High Schools to gain GHSA approval.

http://www.ajc.com/metro/content/printedition/2008/05/18/lacrosse.html

Redraw the areas, once again.

[Sack Attack]

There is no one named Lee Handee at Pace...

[Statman]

There is no one named Lee Handee at Pace...
Looks like list is somewhat "botched". I thought Parker Frost was a Jr...and it appears Seth Erickson would be playing 3rd position over the last month at defense.

[ny2galax37]

There is no one named Lee Handee at Pace...

I think he's from St. Pius.

[GAmc9]

Looks like list is somewhat "botched". I thought Parker Frost was a Jr...and it appears Seth Erickson would be playing 3rd position over the last month at defense.

my boy parker frost is a junior

[ATLredgoalie55]

Also Scott Dockery has an evil twin

[ATLredgoalie55]

I'm looking forward to the game, I wonder how they're going to split up the teams.

[Statman]

I'm looking forward to the game, I wonder how they're going to split up the teams.Good question. How about Cobb-vs-Fulton and sprinkle privates and the rest to fill out holes. I'm sure the coaches have a sound plan, though, for what looks to be fun and great event.

[rhsgoalie35]

Ah, here's the article that came out in the paper...referring to Gwinnett allowing High Schools to gain GHSA approval.

http://www.ajc.com/metro/content/printedition/2008/05/18/lacrosse.html

Redraw the areas, once again.

This should be more than interesting.

[knightstick7]

Well, No. I was Just trying to drum up some conversation. Many of these guys go out for these teams, make it and then land up playing for another team. I'd be interested to know who is on the Buczek,Souza,Gannon team this year. Also the Copperheads and and Trident teams.What Tournaments they are going to.

ATL Select 2008

Attack
TJ Kenary (Milton)
Owen Green (Lovett)
Zack Ward (McIntosh)
Bo Anderson (Lovett)
Bill Schwartz (Westminster)

Midfield
Griffin Lamie (Lassiter)
Kevin Reed (Milton)
North Winship (Lovett)
Jordan McLean (Lovett)
Bennett Gillogly (Westminster)
Scott Dunlevie (Westminster)
Miller Jump (Westminster)
Parker Frost (Pope)
Matt Hickey(Pace)

Defense
Perrin Williams (Lovett)
Frank Keith (Lovett)
Thomas Bowman (Pace)
David Doriss (Westminster)
Darius Bowling (HIES)

Goal
Ben Hostetler (Milton)
Brock Galloway (Harrison)

[Sack Attack]

That is a dirty team.

[knightstick7]

yeah it should be fun

[Laxdad1]

Knightstick7 Thanks for the info. Are ya'll going to play locally anywhere and what tournaments are you going to?

[Laxdad1]

Does the team have a website?

[knightstick7]

Knightstick7 Thanks for the info. Are ya'll going to play locally anywhere and what tournaments are you going to?

No, there is not a website. The tournaments are the King of the Hill tournament in philly (swarthmore college), Duke Invitational Tournament (in durham), and Ga Tech All Star 7's (at GT...not really sure what it is though...)

[loganlax]

GT 7v7... it is the summer 7v7 tourney.
heard they are trying to get everyone on travel teams to play in it to sort of have a king of georgia style of tourney. in the fall 7v7 everyone plays with their team. this would be nasty to get the travel teams to play one another.
Atl Select will split into 2 teams. I heard doublestixx is entering.
Come on Team GA and TRIDENT! Get in the mix!

[gadawgs0820]

Mostowy is playing on the Atl Select team too..

[keylimepie111]

Guys!!!!! you will never just what I just heard!!!!!!! BRAD MOSTOWY is playing on the Atl Select TEAM Ohhhh WOOOOW thanks Brad for telling us you made everyones day.

[Laxnuthin']

Guys!!!!! you will never just what I just heard!!!!!!! BRAD MOSTOWY is playing on the Atl Select TEAM Ohhhh WOOOOW thanks Brad for telling us you made everyones day.

Wait, aren't the travel teams for high school players? Do graduates really belong there? I'm just curious!

[gadawgs0820]

ill be at a prep school next year doing a PG year so ill technically be in 12th again..

[Run-DMC]

Guys!!!!! you will never just what I just heard!!!!!!! BRAD MOSTOWY is playing on the Atl Select TEAM Ohhhh WOOOOW thanks Brad for telling us you made everyones day.

Yeah because making fun of an All-American player on a team with 18 wins is sooooo cool.

[knightstick7]

Mostowy is playing on the Atl Select team too..

Yes, Brad Mostowy is also on the Atl Select team. I dont think his name was on the roster at first but that will help the team that he is playing again.

[btgoalie21]

Unless my coach scheduled another tournament Trident will not be playing at the GT 7v7 tournament, we will be playing however in a tournament in New Jersey, Maryland, The Tilt in georgia, and the Georgia games.

[Beta26]

Unless my coach scheduled another tournament Trident will not be playing at the GT 7v7 tournament, we will be playing however in a tournament in New Jersey, Maryland, The Tilt in georgia, and the Georgia games.

The GT Summer 7on7 is the same weekend as the Georgia Games. So odds are, there won't be people in both since they're both during the day.

There should be a decent amount of teams in the GT 7on7 since you only need like, 12 people to sign up.

The Georgia Games will hopefully have more than 5 teams in it this year. Although...if things stay the same as the Stone Mtn Tourney...BamaLax will win the Georgia Games too... :DOH:

[rhslax25]

https://www.georgialacrosseclassic.com/Teams.html

Haha, these teams are sooooo lopsided

[Sack Attack]

I don't think they are THAT lopsided. Looks like there are great, mediocre, and bad teams on both sides.

[Run-DMC]

In whos favor are you saying they are lopsided in?

[RaiderDMarty]

In whos favor are you saying they are lopsided in?

your mom is lopsided fatty i love you

[rhslax25]

Team 2's.

Just seems a little weird to have Pope, Alpharetta, Lovett, Westminster, McIntosh, and St. Pius on one side, and 6/9 All-Americans, but whatever.

[Run-DMC]

your mom is lopsided fatty i love you

Couldnt this have been in a private message? Thanks anyways :P

It seems like that but on any given day a team can come out and surprise the other.

[RaiderDMarty]

Couldnt this have been in a private message? Thanks anyways :P

It seems like that but on any given day a team can come out and surprise the other.
I agree just because you have all-Americans does not mean they can have off days or they could get hurt nobody knows.

[btgoalie21]

The GT Summer 7on7 is the same weekend as the Georgia Games. So odds are, there won't be people in both since they're both during the day.

There should be a decent amount of teams in the GT 7on7 since you only need like, 12 people to sign up.

The Georgia Games will hopefully have more than 5 teams in it this year. Although...if things stay the same as the Stone Mtn Tourney...BamaLax will win the Georgia Games too... :DOH:


Not nessesarily, keep in mind bamalax had a week of practice before the stone mountain tournament and trident had none, we were also missing half of our team and when the championship came alot of our guys left because they had to study for finals. Give us some practice and some more games before you count us out.

What are those teams that are put together about i havent heard anything about it? What are they for?

[Beta26]

Not nessesarily, keep in mind bamalax had a week of practice before the stone mountain tournament and trident had none, we were also missing half of our team and when the championship came alot of our guys left because they had to study for finals. Give us some practice and some more games before you count us out.

One week of practice for travel teams really means nothing; travel teams are 90% about individual talent. Bamalax has an advantage for 2 reasons 1) Smaller # of players in the state...so the kids have all seen/played-with/against each other many times...ie they know each other and 2) They use graduating seniors, some of which (#31) are solid. They beat everyone they played against at the Stone Mtn Tourney (sometimes twice)...for that reason I think Trident/Team-Ga have to prove that they can beat Bama...and until they do so...Bama is the better team head to head. That's just how it goes. Nothing against Trident or TeamGa...but they got beat.

What are those teams that are put together about i havent heard anything about it? What are they for?

The teams being referenced are for the Georgia Lacrosse Classic where they have 2 teams of rising seniors that play one another, and 2 teams of graduating seniors that do the same. It's an all star game at Lassiter, basically.

Should be good stuff. I'd suggest anyone still in HS not playing in it...should go watch.

https://www.georgialacrosseclassic.com

[Laxnuthin']

One week of practice for travel teams really means nothing; travel teams are 90% about individual talent. Bamalax has an advantage for 2 reasons 1) Smaller # of players in the state...so the kids have all seen/played-with/against each other many times...ie they know each other and 2) They use graduating seniors, some of which (#31) are solid. They beat everyone they played against at the Stone Mtn Tourney (sometimes twice)...for that reason I think Trident/Team-Ga have to prove that they can beat Bama...and until they do so...Bama is the better team head to head. That's just how it goes. Nothing against Trident or TeamGa...but they got beat.



The teams being referenced are for the Georgia Lacrosse Classic where they have 2 teams of rising seniors that play one another, and 2 teams of graduating seniors that do the same. It's an all star game at Lassiter, basically.

Should be good stuff. I'd suggest anyone still in HS not playing in it...should go watch.

https://www.georgialacrosseclassic.com


For you to say that a week of practice by bama means nothing, means that, NOTHING...and it should be about more than 10% teamwork. If individual talent is 90% of the importance, why do you think they call it a "Team" ?

[Beta26]

For you to say that a week of practice by bama means nothing, means that, NOTHING...and it should be about more than 10% teamwork. If individual talent is 90% of the importance, why do you think they call it a "Team" ?

Wow.

Bamalax has one, single practice (www.bamalax.com ....read the Cos Blog, and it's in the very first sentence on that page)...and all of a sudden they outsmarted Georgia kids. Funny.

Thank you for your philosophical viewpoint on sports, coach (Socrates?). Defense wins championships, 100% of the shots you don't take don't go in...blah blah blah. I can read all of that crap on the back of tshirts.

These are travel teams....not school teams with 5 days of practice a week. To expect HS players to begin playing as a team after 2 hours is pretty absurd. Two people playing 2-man on the field is one thing...but an entire HS travel team playing as a unit is basically not happening till the end of summer...if even by then.

Did you go to the games and actually watch (assuming you know what you're talking about)? To say that they weren't individual efforts all around...would be incorrect. Was it teamwork that made Ratlif (Trident) work the Team Georgia player? Nope. Was it teamwork that made French (Bama #31) smoke his middies and score..pretty much at will? Nope. And no...running a 4on3 fastbreak does not constitute a high grade of team work.

Take a team of players from Georgia...any group...and 3 months of practice. And go up against the Crabs (MD), or the Canes (CT), or the Edge (Canada)...and who wins? And why? BETTER INDIVIDUALS?

And yes, I understand that a team of B-level players can use A-level teamwork to beat a team of A-level individuals who don't play as a team. But this isn't the Mighty Ducks. These are all-star teams...in the south...that lost to the perennial powerhouse that is Bamalax. Who are better...because they did


10 minutes of stretching
20 minutes of line drills
30 minutes of shooting/clearing
30 minutes of transition
30 minutes of 6on6


..and Trident/Team-Georgia didn't? That's crap. People need to stop making excuses. End of story.

Sounds like people here should pay the Bamalax coaches to work with kids.

[farside]

Beta great post

I am not sure if you are with teams from Bama or Georgia however do you really think the best players from Georgia were on any of those teams this past weekend.

I am sure it was exciting at the tournament but Team Georgia the past two years does not measure up to the teams in 04,05,06.

I don't know much about Team Trident so I can't comment other then a few players I know like Ratliff and Tenuta.

[Laxnuthin']

There was a lot of talent at the tournament last weekend, and not just on the team from Alabama. It was the first time many of the teams had played together, so they will all improve after the coaches determine what they have to work with. Some of the teams were blended age groups (mostly rising 10th, 11th and 12th graders). The team from AL had at least several players who are already committed to play college ball next year. It's no wonder they won with a stacked deck. Don't count out the teams from Georgia - there are plenty of them now and they all have players who are athletic and smart enough to do well in honoring the game through hard work.

[farside]

There was a lot of talent at the tournament last weekend, and not just on the team from Alabama. It was the first time many of the teams had played together, so they will all improve after the coaches determine what they have to work with. Some of the teams were blended age groups (mostly rising 10th, 11th and 12th graders). The team from AL had at least several players who are already committed to play college ball next year. It's no wonder they won with a stacked deck. Don't count out the teams from Georgia - there are plenty of them now and they all have players who are athletic and smart enough to do well in honoring the game through hard work.

Laxnuthin - not trying to take away from the players from Georgia. All I am saying is the talent is spread out more because there are so many travel teams now. Shockers, Trident, Coach Pritts from Walton, Team GA, Heroes etc. Maybe Bama was stocked with Players that are going to play in college...any ideas where they are going. Team Ga 04,05,06 sent players to ND, Bucknell, Penn, Yale, W&L, Gettysburg,Lynchburg, Swartmore,Presbyterian, OU, and many club programs like Auburn, Georgia, GT, etc

[Laxnuthin']

From what I have been told, one of them is going to Navy and one is going to Birmingham-Southern. Not sure about any others, but some may even be going on to play college football, as it is widely known that many of them play both sports. Does Hoover, AL ring a bell?

[farside]

From what I have been told, one of them is going to Navy and one is going to Birmingham-Southern. Not sure about any others, but some may even be going on to play college football, as it is widely known that many of them play both sports. Does Hoover, AL ring a bell?

Laxnuthin...Thats great we are seeing more and more football,basketball,soccer players playing lacrosse which will hopefully make it a more athletic sport in GA. Players are really getting better each year.

Good luck to the BAMA boys:worship:

[relaxified]

Team 2's.

Just seems a little weird to have Pope, Alpharetta, Lovett, Westminster, McIntosh, and St. Pius on one side, and 6/9 All-Americans, but whatever.

I agree. I also noticed that 3 of the 4 goalies are on the B Team as well as 9 of the 14 short stick middies. I would hope they make some adjustments once they find out which players are actually going to play.

[Beta26]

Beta great post

I am not sure if you are with teams from Bama or Georgia however do you really think the best players from Georgia were on any of those teams this past weekend..

Do I think some of the best players were on those teams? Definitely a few(Ratliff, Darius, etc). It seems as if there are so many travel teams right now (as you mentioned) that the talent is spread pretty thin amongst all eleventy teams.

I'd have to say that the current travel team to beat in the state is the Shockers. Wehman (Trident), and the Team Ga coaches are great...but not many travel teams have the best of the best Ga players (IMHO)...and the best of the best Ga coaches with Buczyk, Souza, etc.

The TILT (trident tourney) should be decent this year with Trident and Team Ga playing each other again, along with Bamalax. The Shockers don't (from what I can tell) play any in-state games...other than the Georgia Tech Summer thing.

I am sure there's a list of all of the summer events going on in Ga somewhere if anyone has one.

[rhsgoalie35]

I agree. I also noticed that 3 of the 4 goalies are on the B Team as well as 9 of the 14 short stick middies. I would hope they make some adjustments once they find out which players are actually going to play.

Yea, I personally don't agree with the decision to split up the teams of an All-Star game by schools. My best guess as to why they're trying to do this is to have more team chemistry already developed for each team, but it really doesn't seem logical or reasonable, mainly for the reason relaxified stated. As much as I wish it were different, I do believe All-Star games/teams are meant more for individual talent to shine than teamwork and chemistry. Especially when the solution to encourage teamwork directly leads to the teams being so lopsided.

[ScooPs-33]

well, they cant really pick the teams until everyone that is going signs up. I know already that Bender is busy, and I am sure that others will be during that time also. So we will see who shows up... should be a fun game to play in regardless.

[gadawgs0820]

and I am sure that others will be during that time also. So we will see who shows up... should be a fun game to play in regardless.

Stanton and I both wont be there.. :(

[calc1454]

aww dude The Atl Shockers look sick.

Personally i think that the Schenck School and Mount Vernon Presbyterian all-star team is the best all-star team in the state that will be the hardest to beat. YA Atl Shockers look good but not as good as this other all-star team.

I heard they are cummin out with a new all-star team for Atlanta called ATL ***** Poppin'. Seems as though they will be the team to beat next year. Cant wait for next summer all-star teams to come through GA again next year. Its going to be sweet.

[ATLredgoalie55]

I wonder what they're going to do about goalies? It looks like a 3 way split for B and Ax will be playing the whole time on the other team.

[doublelax]

Ok, first a BIG disclaimer...These pictures which I am going to post a link to, were taken I think by someone from Alabama. With that said, there are a lot of games that don't involve Bamalax, just Ga teams. And, even though the ones where Bamalax is playing, there are some good pics of the other kids. So I hope you find some pics you enjoy. It does not show any scores or anything antagonizing, just kids playing lax.
http://www.picsmaker.exposuremanager.com/g/bagataway_tournament_08

[Sack Attack]

If Gwinett is doing GHSA for 09, does that mean new areas are going to be redrawn for 09 too? :)

[calc1454]

Personally i do not think that Trident and Team Georgia represent the All-Stars in Ga very well, but they are pretty good. I guess.

[Beta26]

If Gwinett is doing GHSA for 09, does that mean new areas are going to be redrawn for 09 too? :)

Yeap, some areas redrawn.

http://www.ghsa.net/node/1247

BOYS LACROSSE

AREA 1
East Coweta
McIntosh
Newnan
Northgate
Starr's Mill
Whitewater

AREA 2
Decatur
Greenbrier
Lakeside, Evans
Marist
St. Pius X
Washington County

AREA 3
Blessed Trinity
Grady
Holy Innocents'
North Springs
Pace Academy
Riverwood
Westminster

AREA 4
Centennial
Chattahoochee
Collins Hill
Greater Atlanta Christian
Northview
Peachtree Ridge
Wesleyan

AREA 5
Harrison
Hillgrove
Kennesaw Mountain
McEachern
South Cobb
Tri-Cities
Woodward Academy

AREA 6
Alpharetta
Gainesville
Milton
North Forsyth
Riverside Military
Roswell
South Forsyth
West Forsyth

AREA 7
Allatoona
Etowah
Kell
Lassiter
Sprayberry
Woodstock

AREA 8
Darlington
Lovett
North Cobb
Pope
Walton
Wheeler

[ATLredgoalie55]

Lassiter's region is a joke!

[Laxnuthin']

Calc1454, they can compete and that's what they will do. That's what matters.

[Sack Attack]

No areas are redrawn as far as I can tell, teams are just added in.

[btgoalie21]

these areas are rediculous, they are so uneven, Lassiter's region is a joke, they have only good teams in some regions, and crappy teams in their own regions, teams that shouldn't make playoffs but do because their region is garbage. The GHSA needs to fix these areas its rediculous.

[Beta26]

No areas are redrawn as far as I can tell, teams are just added in.

Isn't that what redrawing is? If you add a team to a region...you have to change (redraw) the lines of that region to include new teams if they don't fall under current "maps"...which there really aren't since they are not geographical...in most of the cases. The areas are drawn by perceived talent of those in charge.

Like Northview with Area 4...weren't they in a region with Alpharetta last year? Alpharetta is now with Milton and Roswell in Area 6. Area 8 is in the same boat with having Lovett, Walton and Pope together. To think that 2 of those 6 teams won't make the playoffs...but 2nd place teams in Areas 1, 2, 4, 5 and 7 will?

Playoff numbers (without having a 1st round bye) must have 4, 8, 16 or 32 teams. Unless they plan on changing things...some good teams will be getting screwed.

Sometime this summer I will post a map of the current (2008-09) regions on a geographical map.

BTGoalie21...I feel ya. You guys are in a region with Westminster, Pace and HIES...at least you guy are adding a 9th grade team (I hear).

[unclax1]

No areas are redrawn as far as I can tell, teams are just added in.
Some changes - I see Alpharetta got moved to area 6 with Milton, Roswell and SF - That seems like a tough area.

[I got man!]

https://www.georgialacrosseclassic.com/Teams.html

Haha, these teams are sooooo lopsided


agreed, i just did not want to be the one to say it. RHS25, looks like you will have to step up for the team.

[farside]

agreed, i just did not want to be the one to say it. RHS25, looks like you will have to step up for the team.

Looks like the tradtional schools that make the playoffs will have a harder time. That being said each year some teams surprizes (Alpharetta 18-1) and some teams do not come up to speed like you would think.

The great thing is it will make the region that more important. Teams are getting better as more and more young players (kids playing 5-6 years)are moving up to their HS teams. Some teams may have an easy go of it but you still have to be the last one standing as Lovett proved this year. Who would have thought that Milton (500 team entering the playoffs) would knock off HIES and Alpha and make the Final Four (Good job Eagles BTW).

Just proves that lacrosse is getting better and better with more teams. The teams that are not up to Par are going to have to raise their game unless they want to continue to be doormats.:thumbsup:

[Statman]

Playoff numbers (without having a 1st round bye) must have 4, 8, 16 or 32 teams. Unless they plan on changing things...some good teams will be getting screwed.

I think they should expand to 24 teams, add a play-in round, reward the #1's with a bye for earning that right via winning area, then let the #2's play #'s 17-24 wild cards based on Laxpower (or some other method) ranking of teams who did not finish in top two of area. Those wild cards get slotted into the bracket in reverse order based on their strength (or lack thereof), and as part of that slotting, use the Laxpower ranking again only to derive what #1 they play. Basically, the highest ranked #1 would have #24 in their bracket, and the #2 in that bracket would be just as it has been, again #1 gets bye. That keeps your 2 teams from each area in playoffs, but also rewards 8 other teams, including a handful of really good teams, and possibly all 8 better than some who are a #2 seed.

2nd idea, seed all of the current 16 slots by Laxpower or other ranking system, that negates need for areas in first place, but I also understand the perceived local rivalries that are created by correctly drawn areas or regions and what that means to fans.

[Statman]

You guys are in a region with Westminster, Pace and HIES...at least you guy are adding a 9th grade team (I hear).

Who else has freshman teams planned or already up and running? I am aware of Roswell and I think Milton.

[Run-DMC]

Alpharetta has one

[relaxified]

I think they should expand to 24 teams, add a play-in round, reward the #1's with a bye for earning that right via winning area, then let the #2's play #'s 17-24 wild cards based on Laxpower (or some other method) ranking of teams who did not finish in top two of area. Those wild cards get slotted into the bracket in reverse order based on their strength (or lack thereof), and as part of that slotting, use the Laxpower ranking again only to derive what #1 they play. Basically, the highest ranked #1 would have #24 in their bracket, and the #2 in that bracket would be just as it has been, again #1 gets bye. That keeps your 2 teams from each area in playoffs, but also rewards 8 other teams, including a handful of really good teams, and possibly all 8 better than some who are a #2 seed.

2nd idea, seed all of the current 16 slots by Laxpower or other ranking system, that negates need for areas in first place, but understand the perceived local rivalries that are created by correctly drawn areas or regions. would . To those blasting the areas, they are

Statman, I really like your first idea, not so much the second. Previously, I supported the system that was in place because I thought that as Georgia lacrosse grew, the obvious problems that result from having areas that are unequal in talent would be minimized. However, now that I see that GHSA is willing to "redraw" every couple of years and that they seem to be overly concerned with geography at the expense of parity. I think a wild card system is the way to go. I believe that the areas, as drawn for next year, presents the potential for greater inequity than the area system did this year.

[Run-DMC]

I would like to know the criteria for re drawing the areas. Does anybody have any information?

[Statman]

Don't see yet why Alpharetta would be moved from Area 4 to create an 8 team Area 6, Area 4 could have left as the 8 team Area and better parity. Maybe the commissioned geographical study will shed light.

[Statman]

Statman, I really like your first idea.
That first idea also incenticizes teams to play a tougher schedule, if laxpower used to rank the area winners and seed the 17-24 slots. You are better off to play a tougher schedule, no patsies, even out of state, than focus on W's. Better for GA Lacrosse and you get an unbiased way of establishing the bracket, no "homers" involved.....

[Laxdad1]

I agree basically with Statman's idea concerning playoffs. If the brakets are again left to the Westminster's girls lacrosse coach, respected as he is in some quarters, next years playoff brackets will be even more messed up than they were this past year. The state must go to some sort of seeded tournament. We will see if certain people in the GHSAA will to the "right" thing and allow lacrosse to go to the next level when it comes to the state championship tournament.

The growth of "summer" lacrosse teams has been just amazing. I don't know how many different teams there are,6-10 teams just at the high school level. All of them are going to 2-3 out of town tournaments competing at some of the biggest in the country. No matter what level these teams compete at, it is really unbelievable that so many kids are exposing themselves to some of the best lacrosse in the country. Ga lacrosse fans have much to be proud of. So go out there and play your best and have fun this summer.

[Socrates]

Should the max number of games be lowered from 18? What about putting the scheduling in the hands of someone other than the coach to bag the homers?

[Laxdad1]

Should the max number of games be lowered from 18? What about putting the scheduling in the hands of someone other than the coach to bag the homers?

No. Many are going to play at least one extra game due to the addition of new teams. There may be some coaches who feel that it benefits their team to play easier teams but, this tact does not, in the long term, help their team improve. I feel that the schedule should be increased maybe by 2 games. Maybe this will encourage some of these teams to schedule games with teams from other states, or maybe more events like the one they have at Milton. Some questions I would like to know the answers to are if the Pa. teams that Milton played are returning the visit this year. I'd love to see some of the Texas and Fla teams up here for "mini tournaments". We have many turf fields now so the chances of playing are less dependent on the weather.

I am concerned about the state tournament next year. Sometimes people are reluctant to giving up certain powers that they may control even if it is to advance the progress of the game. This year alone there were 300 more state sanctioned high school lacrosse teams nationwide than the year before. This demands refinements to the system our kids play under. We have to get more coaches and many more refs. What about the new NCAA rules that were not put into effect in Ga this past year.

[Plume]

I agree basically with Statman's idea concerning playoffs. If the brakets are again left to the Westminster's girls lacrosse coach, respected as he is in some quarters, next years playoff brackets will be even more messed up than they were this past year. The state must go to some sort of seeded tournament. We will see if certain people in the GHSAA will to the "right" thing and allow lacrosse to go to the next level when it comes to the state championship tournament.

The GHSA sets the brackets every year. No coaches are involved in determining who plays who. The GHSA determines the regions that will be matched up before the season begins, and you can see what regions will be matched next year if you just follow the pattern from the last two ... what they do not account for is that some teams are not in the same region every year. Alpharetta got moved to a new region so they not only have a much tougher fight to just make the playoffs, but they could end up with a very different draw than if they had stayed where they were. Did any other schools get moved?

[Plume]

I think Alpharetta was the only school that actually moved to a new region this year. Why Alpharetta? Did anyone ever publish the schools on a geographical map?

[Laxdad1]

The GHSA sets the brackets every year. No coaches are involved in determining who plays who. The GHSA determines the regions that will be matched up before the season begins, and you can see what regions will be matched next year if you just follow the pattern from the last two ... what they do not account for is that some teams are not in the same region every year. Alpharetta got moved to a new region so they not only have a much tougher fight to just make the playoffs, but they could end up with a very different draw than if they had stayed where they were. Did any other schools get moved?

I believe your information is incorrect. Although the brackets may be set early in the season, they are set by one person. His team has not been on the same side as Milton girls team for years. That's why many of us are in favor of a seeded tournament.

[luvitatLS]

i tihnk that having a seeded tournament is a must, i mean this year the lower bracket was loaded, lassiter, lovett, westminster, Alpharetta, and maybe more i cant remember. with a seeded bracket one team wont have a easy road like they have in the years past

[Beta26]

McIntosh did not have an easy road to the playoffs, just as Lovett did not have the hardest. Had Milton beat Lovett..they would have had to face Alpharetta, Lovett and Lassiter. But that didn't happen.

They (McIntosh) beat Pope, St Pius and Westminster.

Lovett beat Starrs Mill, Milton and Lassiter.

[GeorgiaDolfan]

What about the new NCAA rules that were not put into effect in Ga this past year.

Since the GHSA teams use the National Federation of High Schools (NFHS) Rule Book, those new NCAA rules have no effect in GA. For someone who supposedly knows a lot of about lacrosse in Georgia, this basic factoid continues to escape you Laxdad1.

The GHSA doesn't have a seeded state championship tournament in any other sports.... Why do some of you think they will do it differently in lacrosse? They certainly aren't going to cede control to an arbitrary external rating system like LaxPower.

[Sack Attack]

Exactly. No way GHSA uses LaxPower for the state championships. We're stuck with the way things are.

[Laxdad1]

Since the GHSA teams use the National Federation of High Schools (NFHS) Rule Book, those new NCAA rules have no effect in GA. For someone who supposedly knows a lot of about lacrosse in Georgia, this basic factoid continues to escape you Laxdad1.

The GHSA doesn't have a seeded state championship tournament in any other sports.... Why do some of you think they will do it differently in lacrosse? They certainly aren't going to cede control to an arbitrary external rating system like LaxPower.

Tenn and Maryland definitly use the new face off rule and that, sir, is what I was referring to. Also I believe Fla and NC use it. I also know that they are not in effect here but, they should be. I don't quite understand why you are so antagonistic, we're just having a discussion here.

A month or two ago, I suggested a committee of the past year's quarter finalist coaches seed the brackets, At least this would get the brackets out of the hands of one particular person. Although it may not solve controversy, it would probably lend an "air" of being at least more equitable.

[laxdog27]

"Random" regional brackets are just as fair as using some computer driven ranking system.

The worst thing that could ever happen is if coach's votes ever got involved. Coaches will vote for who they have seen, or who someone they trust tells them deserves it. It's a freaking nightmare. The quarter finalist coache idea is even worst than a coaches poll. Every year Lassiter, Lovett, and Westminster are going to determine your seeding? You guys would lose your sh-- every year about how unfair it is.

The seeding system is what it is and will not change. GHSA has a system and seems happy with it across sports.

It is more fair than anything else because there is no politicking or "gaming" of computed rankings.

Take care of business and win championships. People who blame losing out on the championship because they got beat in a "tough" bracket are destined to lose anyway. harsh but true.

[Statman]

I think some of you are going down a different path than intent of my earlier playoff suggestion. The seedings and laxpower involvement would only be used to expand the post-season tourney by adding 8 teams, and those 8 (#'s 17-24) would get seeded inversely compared to area #1's. The GHSA current method of bracketing what area #2 plays another area #1 would still hold, the #2 would just have to play a wild-card first. My strategy here was due to GHSA still maintaining control, a true seeded tourney of 16 or 24 teams would probably never be embraced.

I only have the current final Laxpower ranking, but let's say it was the same when last regular season game was recorded, #'s 17-24 seeds would have been in this order: (rank) Pace(11), Walton(15), Blessed Trinity(18), Sprayberry(19), Wesleyan(20), Lakeside-Evans(21), Centennial(23) and Chattahoochee(24).

ALL #1's in playoffs get bye>Play-in games in top bracket would have been Wesleyan@Etowah, Sprayberry@Pope, Walton@Roswell, Lakeside@Northview.

Lower bracket play-in games would have been Centennial@Woodward, Pace@Holy Innocents (I know.... tough draw for both, but this due to Pace being highest ranked non-playoff team and Milton in same bracket being worst ranked #1), Hooch@Starr's Mill, and Blessed Trinity@Decatur.

Hard to get ALL opinions on one page, just clarifying the concept of expanded playoff for forum fodder....PS-this would have had all 1-24 ranked teams in the playoffs, as chances of a 25th or worse ranked team making a #2 in an area probably not reasonable.

Benefits> 1)extra round of playoff games to further grow GA lacrosse, 2)good teams truly in best 16 in state would still be in playoffs, 3)statman would continue to hone skills at end of year with different scenarios.

[GeorgiaDolfan]

Tenn and Maryland definitly use the new face off rule and that, sir, is what I was referring to. Also I believe Fla and NC use it. I also know that they are not in effect here but, they should be. I don't quite understand why you are so antagonistic, we're just having a discussion here.

Tennessee and Maryland (Private, MIAA schools) use NCAA rules. (The sport is not sanctioned in the state of Tennessee. The private schools in Maryland choose not participate in the state sanctioning. I don't think they compete with public schools at all.)

In Georgia, the sport of lacrosse is sanctioned by the GHSA - thus GA sanctioned (varsity) teams are compelled to use NFHS rules as the GHSA is a member of the NFHS. They can't pick and choose which rules (i.e. new NCAA faceoff rule) they want to use. Read more about the NFHS here:
www.nfhs.org (http://www.nfhs.org)

A month or two ago, I suggested a committee of the past year's quarter finalist coaches seed the brackets, At least this would get the brackets out of the hands of one particular person. Although it may not solve controversy, it would probably lend an "air" of being at least more equitable.

An interesting idea... but this will never happen. Forget about it. Laxdog27 hits the high points in his post above.

The GHSA doesn't seed the brackets in any other sport. They aren't going to do it in lacrosse.

P.S. If the lacrosse head coaches and athletic directors are up in arms over these tainted area assignments (as much as the message board posters claim to be here), there is a formal appeal process to the GHSA.

[Sack Attack]

Good explanation of why GA uses NFHS and not NCAA, Dolfan.

[Laxdad1]

Do you think the new faceoff rule should be adopted by the NFHS? I actually haven't decided whether I like the new rule or not. Not only do you lose possession but you have to immediately leave the field and play is resumed while this happens giving even more advantage. Listen, I really don't have a problem with the playoff brackets. I know the brackets are set by the GHSA, but I believe they are set by the coordinator which happens to be committee of one. For the sake of equity and fairness, so there would be less complaining, don't you think this should be done by more than one person? How about drawing names randomly, 3 or 5 members, to serve for a two year period.

[laxshooter18]

I think some of you are going down a different path than intent of my earlier playoff suggestion. The seedings and laxpower involvement would only be used to expand the post-season tourney by adding 8 teams, and those 8 (#'s 17-24) would get seeded inversely compared to area #1's. The GHSA current method of bracketing what area #2 plays another area #1 would still hold, the #2 would just have to play a wild-card first. My strategy here was due to GHSA still maintaining control, a true seeded tourney of 16 or 24 teams would probably never be embraced.

I only have the current final Laxpower ranking, but let's say it was the same when last regular season game was recorded, #'s 17-24 seeds would have been in this order: (rank) Pace(11), Walton(15), Blessed Trinity(18), Sprayberry(19), Wesleyan(20), Lakeside-Evans(21), Centennial(23) and Chattahoochee(24).

ALL #1's in playoffs get bye>Play-in games in top bracket would have been Wesleyan@Etowah, Sprayberry@Pope, Walton@Roswell, Lakeside@Northview.

Lower bracket play-in games would have been Centennial@Woodward, Pace@Holy Innocents (I know.... tough draw for both, but this due to Pace being highest ranked non-playoff team and Milton in same bracket being worst ranked #1), Hooch@Starr's Mill, and Blessed Trinity@Decatur.

Hard to get ALL opinions on one page, just clarifying the concept of expanded playoff for forum fodder....PS-this would have had all 1-24 ranked teams in the playoffs, as chances of a 25th or worse ranked team making a #2 in an area probably not reasonable.

Benefits> 1)extra round of playoff games to further grow GA lacrosse, 2)good teams truly in best 16 in state would still be in playoffs, 3)statman would continue to hone skills at end of year with different scenarios.

1. I think 18 games is the max currently allowed. I think many of the players get burned out 3/4 of the way thru the season. More lacrosse doesn't necessarily grow the game. We need to get make sure the players are taken care of.

2. Why do we need the best 16 to have a playoff? If the goal is to crown a champion, are we concerned that the current system isn't capturing the likely champion? Even with all the discussion about this year's playoff, can anyone honestly say that the top 4, 6 or 8 teams WEREN"T in the playoffs?

[Statman]

1. I think 18 games is the max currently allowed. I think many of the players get burned out 3/4 of the way thru the season. More lacrosse doesn't necessarily grow the game. We need to get make sure the players are taken care of.

2. Why do we need the best 16 to have a playoff? If the goal is to crown a champion, are we concerned that the current system isn't capturing the likely champion? Even with all the discussion about this year's playoff, can anyone honestly say that the top 4, 6 or 8 teams WEREN"T in the playoffs?

Looks like range of games played was low of 14 by Pace to high of 21 by Milton. Not sure if a true maximum is mandated, maybe so, but must be in-state games only, or forgiveness for any spring break games.

As to #2, no doubt top teams were in playoffs, winning area pretty much does that, argument was that several #3's in an area miss the playoffs, and they are better than many of the #2's. Based on what you are saying, may as well only allow the area winners (8) to make playoffs. Surely top 4 would be there......why waste time on the #2's.....

[Quijibo]

Do you think the new faceoff rule should be adopted by the NFHS? I actually haven't decided whether I like the new rule or not. Not only do you lose possession but you have to immediately leave the field and play is resumed while this happens giving even more advantage. Listen, I really don't have a problem with the playoff brackets. I know the brackets are set by the GHSA, but I believe they are set by the coordinator which happens to be committee of one. For the sake of equity and fairness, so there would be less complaining, don't you think this should be done by more than one person? How about drawing names randomly, 3 or 5 members, to serve for a two year period.

It most likely will be, most of the time the NFHS allows a 1-2 year buffer zone from the time it is adopted by the NCAA just to see how it works out then adopts it. I can't think of any big rule that the NFHS hasn't adopted lately.

With the amount of illegal procedures and inexperienced people taking faceoffs (especially in JV) it would definitely be a huge deal, but I like it. Under the old rules if you were getting dominated you could just jump the whistle a little and you either got away with it or got caught and lost possession like you would have anyway (without the fast break).

[Crew_Socks]

Did anyone get the list of people who made the AJC All Cobb County Team?

[laxshooter18]

Looks like range of games played was low of 14 by Pace to high of 21 by Milton. Not sure if a true maximum is mandated, maybe so, but must be in-state games only, or forgiveness for any spring break games.

As to #2, no doubt top teams were in playoffs, winning area pretty much does that, argument was that several #3's in an area miss the playoffs, and they are better than many of the #2's. Based on what you are saying, may as well only allow the area winners (8) to make playoffs. Surely top 4 would be there......why waste time on the #2's.....

1. According to the 2007-08 GHSA rules, "The number of Lacrosse games allowed will be 18 (head-to-head or tournament competition) not including Area
and other post-season competition."

2. Check these numbers, DI has 56 teams with 16 dancing. DII is 34 and 4; DIII is 148 and 20. Percentage wise, we are talking about 29%, 12% and 14%. This year GA HS was 35% and if we moved to 24 team playoff we'd be at 52%! Just increasing the number of teams exacerbates the problem - what about the 25th or 26th place team? I'm not knocking the suggestion because we need them to have intelligent conversations. I just don't think more is necessarily better. Alternatively, we could "nanny-state" the whole thing and include the entire state starting after Spring Break? Sorry, that's a little sarcastic. I think the teams that win their Area should be rewarded and not just by seeding. Otherwise, bag the areas and let 'em all go at it.

[Plume]

I believe your information is incorrect. Although the brackets may be set early in the season, they are set by one person. His team has not been on the same side as Milton girls team for years. That's why many of us are in favor of a seeded tournament.

LaxDad,
I emailed the GHSA office ... they have a contact link on their web site ...

Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2008 7:55 PM
Subject: Playoff Brackets for Lax

To Whom It May Concern:
How are the lacrosse playoff brackets determined? Are they set by the GHSA or by some of the coaches? Also when will the brackets for 2009 be ready?

Thank you,
Peter Xxxxxx

And here is the reply I got ...

Mr. Xxxxxx: All brackets are made by the GHSA office and there is a built-in rotation pattern that differs with each sport. The brackets are included in the GHSA Constitution and By-laws. The updated document should be on the GHSA web site some time during the summer.
Ralph Swearngin
GHSA Executive Director



By the way, I also noticed that the lacrosse brackets are the same as the volleyball brackets. They use the same match-ups with the areas. I do not think anyone from lacrosse would care about volleyball so this response I got seems to make sense. I have been involved with other sports in Georgia for several years, and I thought this was the case. Unfortunately, I do not know of any case where the GHSA has created a real seeded tournament. I am pretty sure we are stuck with the random rotation that the GHSA creates from year to year.

[Sir-Lax-A-Lot]

So who else out there is in the double stixx summer league?

looks like the white team is going to dominate... any thoughtss?

[Beta26]

Double Stixx is garbage.

This will be better:

http://www.ymcalax.com/Master%20Pages%20920/Summer%20Adult%20League%20%20Master.html

I am referring to the men's summer league...not the HS leagues, owners, or anything else. The HS league and owners are strong sauce.

Have we hit the point on the timeline where everyone stops showing up to games yet? Usually it's week 3-4.

[MRDukks]

first of all - great post by plume explaining how the GHSA sets the brackets BEFORE the season starts. and a great catch that volleyball and lacrosse have the same crossover pattern in the brackets. these brackets usually change every two years as to the crossover pattern. but lacrosse has grown so quickly that the regions and the brackets change EVERY year.

but my main reason for this post is to support one person who gets beat up on this forum (mainly by one other person!). the GHSA coordinator for lacrosse has done as much or more to support lacrosse and help grow lacrosse in this state. it is because of his efforts that lacrosse became GHSA sanctioned (2002) and a GHSA championship sport (2005) faster than any other sport in GHSA history. were it not for his efforts, lacrosse would be right there with ultimate frisbie and roller hockey fighting for GHSA recognition.

he does NOT set the regions (why would he put westminster boys in one of the toughest regions?). he does NOT set the brackets (for proof see plumes excellent post above).

there will NEVER be any seeded tournament run by the GHSA. BUT if the girls's tournament WAS seeded, Westminster would be seeded #2 or #3 each of the past five years. so even in a seeded tourny, westminster girls would only meet milton in the finals!!

[MRDukks]

"We have to get more coaches and many more refs"

agreed. so i ask each person on this forum: do you do either of these things?

"refs who are FUBAR." do not agree. you should try officiating and see how you do! "antagonistic" comments such as this one are not helpful in the discussion. the only solution is more refs (many who are not from a lacrosse backround), doing more games over many years. it takes many years for an official to become even close to good at this thankless job. and listen to the coaches, fans, etc. demean them no matter how good they are.

by the way, the Kevin Moore Fund helps pay the cost for Georgia Officials to go out-of-state events for training and experience (http://www.galaxref.com/kevinmoore.shtml). you should consider contributing to this fund.

enough for this season. talk to y'all next year.

still pompous after all these months!

MRDukks (and don't call me mister)

[Hoolax]

first of all - great post by plume explaining how the GHSA sets the brackets BEFORE the season starts. and a great catch that volleyball and lacrosse have the same crossover pattern in the brackets. these brackets usually change every two years as to the crossover pattern. but lacrosse has grown so quickly that the regions and the brackets change EVERY year.

but my main reason for this post is to support one person who gets beat up on this forum (mainly by one other person!). the GHSA coordinator for lacrosse has done as much or more to support lacrosse and help grow lacrosse in this state. it is because of his efforts that lacrosse became GHSA sanctioned (2002) and a GHSA championship sport (2005) faster than any other sport in GHSA history. were it not for his efforts, lacrosse would be right there with ultimate frisbie and roller hockey fighting for GHSA recognition.

he does NOT set the regions (why would he put westminster boys in one of the toughest regions?). he does NOT set the brackets (for proof see plumes excellent post above).

there will NEVER be any seeded tournament run by the GHSA. BUT if the girls's tournament WAS seeded, Westminster would be seeded #2 or #3 each of the past five years. so even in a seeded tourny, westminster girls would only meet milton in the finals!!

Great post! I was tired of that one poster's shots as well.

[Laxdad1]

Who do you think sets the brackets? An entity, like the GHSA can not do it. It is a thing. Who in it,sets the brackets? I am not bashing the gentleman from Westminster. I know who he is and what he has done for lacrosse in Georgia All I'm saying is for the sake of being more or at least showing equity and fairness, the brackets should be set by more than one person. Personally, I really don't care. Many have complained about it. So to eliminate this complaining, I just bring up the idea. I really don't see that the change would be a big deal.

[Sir-Lax-A-Lot]

Who do you think sets the brackets? An entity, like the GHSA can not do it. It is a thing. Who in it,sets the brackets? I am not bashing the gentleman from Westminster. I know who he is and what he has done for lacrosse in Georgia All I'm saying is for the sake of being more or at least showing equity and fairness, the brackets should be set by more than one person. Personally, I really don't care. Many have complained about it. So to eliminate this complaining, I just bring up the idea. I really don't see that the change would be a big deal.

The brackets are not "set" as you might put it. The pairings of regions are random and the formula is changed every two years. True, it is one person who does the math on the formula, but the person from westminster has nothing to do with it.

and if you really dont care about it, then why have you complained so much??????

[laxdog27]

you can't setup brackets to benefit a team. 1) you never know who is going to jump into the front of the pack, like Alpharetta, McIntosh, Northview, etc. 2) you eventually have to win a tough game to get to win it all.

All this bracket talk is silly. Just win games and the rest works itself out.

You guys think Lovett gives a flying cr-p who they play in the brackets? They have the confidence to take care of business.

[farside]

you can't setup brackets to benefit a team. 1) you never know who is going to jump into the front of the pack, like Alpharetta, McIntosh, Northview, etc. 2) you eventually have to win a tough game to get to win it all.

All this bracket talk is silly. Just win games and the rest works itself out.

You guys think Lovett gives a flying cr-p who they play in the brackets? They have the confidence to take care of business.

Nicely said Lax Dog!:clap:

[MRDukks]

"Who do you think sets the brackets?." the ghsa sets the brackets for lacrosse as they do in every other sport. "An entity, like the GHSA can not do it." why not? they do it for EVERY other sport, including riflery. "It is a thing." i don't know what that means. "Who in it,sets the brackets?" again i don't understand this sentence. "I am not bashing the gentleman from Westminster. I know who he is and what he has done for lacrosse in Georgia." semantics i guess. you are not supporting him and you are questioning his integrity in my opinion. "All I'm saying is for the sake of being more or at least showing equity and fairness, the brackets should be set by more than one person." they are set by the ghsa, not by one person. go ask the Lassiter AD or the Cobb Co. AD (similar to what mr. plume did with his e-mail to the ghsa) and see what response you get. "Personally, I really don't care." your posts say you do care. "Many have complained about it." many? mainly one person. "So to eliminate this complaining, I just bring up the idea. I really don't see that the change would be a big deal." it will NEVER happen. you apparently have never dealt directly with the GHSA. NEVER equals NEVER as in EVERY other sport.

lastly your complaint seems to center around the fact that westminster girls don't have to face milton girls until the final round. for the past SIX years, westminster and milton would have been seeded in opposite sides of any seeded bracket. so explain what was unfair (even though it was RANDOM!!!!). you avoid this question it seems because you have no rational response.

p.s. "refs are FUBAR." please explain this statement.

[Beta26]

You're a towel!

[Laxdad1]

The GSHA is an organization. The gentleman who is the lacrosse coordinator sets the brackets, as suggested by people who know, by some sort of mathematical formula, and we have our brackets. When you suggest the GHSA, I understand it as saying everyone who is involved with or holds a position within it is involved in setting the brackets. I only suggested that this is not the case. According to what I read, it is done by the lacrosse coordinator.

Your not knowing what the term "FUBAR" means, suggests you need to read more.

I really shouldn't have even responded. I do know that the chances of changing the status quo are next to none. I just brought up the question of a seeded tournament and the "bracket" topic to stimulate conversation and maybe to throw around new ideas. I hope new ideas don't scare you. It's called change and that can be a good thing, sometimes.

You, sir, take yourself to seriously.

[Crew_Socks]

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[Sir-Lax-A-Lot]

The GSHA is an organization. The gentleman who is the lacrosse coordinator sets the brackets, as suggested by people who know, by some sort of mathematical formula, and we have our brackets. When you suggest the GHSA, I understand it as saying everyone who is involved with or holds a position within it is involved in setting the brackets. I only suggested that this is not the case. According to what I read, it is done by the lacrosse coordinator.

Your not knowing what the term "FUBAR" means, suggests you need to read more.

I really shouldn't have even responded. I do know that the chances of changing the status quo are next to none. I just brought up the question of a seeded tournament and the "bracket" topic to stimulate conversation and maybe to throw around new ideas. I hope new ideas don't scare you. It's called change and that can be a good thing, sometimes.

You, sir, take yourself to seriously.

This train of thought has gone on too long... some one needs to be the bigger man and just let it go...

As i have said before, the lacrosse coordinator has nothing to do with the "status quo" He has done a lot for the sport in Georgia, and has nothing to do with how the brackets come out. And i highly doubt that he is the one that comes up with the formula... that is something the GHSA has done for all sports, and im sure that the coordinators for all of the sports have much more important things to do than work on formulas, and i bet that some might not be a math or business major and have no clue how to work the formula.
Maybe you need to do some more reading...

And change can be a good thing, but there is no way the GHSA is going to change it, so let the topic go...

And what might you be referring to by the "status qou"



You, sir, need to take a vacation.

[rhslax25]

So who else out there is in the double stixx summer league?

looks like the white team is going to dominate... any thoughtss?

I am. I'm on Guns N' Roses with a few other Roswell guys.

[Laxdad1]

I drop the subject. I was ready to do so and then another post was made, so I just responded. I agree, enough already. If I offended anyone, I apologize. I'm an attorney and I have pleaded many positions, sometimes when there isn't even a position.

[JamLax]

Any new coaching changes in any programs? I believe coaching is the single most important aspect of high school lacrosse. A new coach coming in with a experiance and a plan is invaluable.

Seeing progams like McIntosh, Woodward, Decatur make a turn around says alot about the impact of what a good coach can do to a program.

[laxdog27]

Just for the sake of clarity, Decatur didn't exactly make a "turnaround". It's a new program and has made the playoffs both of it's varsity years. I think the coaches do a good job, but I'm biased.

I reserve judgement on Woodward's coach. They made the playoffs, but the Gillman every clear approach is mind boggling. They do run a good zone defense and that is tougher than most people think.

Doublestixx.... I haven't seen the white team yet. We (Quiet Riot) played the McIntosh (green) team week one and won in overtime. Last week we played Northview (black i think) and won easily.

It's a fun league. I actually heard an older d man yell at a young attackman last week "damnit kid quit running in f-ing circles". it was funny as heck

[rhslax25]

I think we (Guns N' Roses) are playing you tonight, laxdog27.

[World_B_Free]

one of the keys to the development of lacrosse is the "acceptance" of lacrosse as a cross-over sport for football athletes. i.e. are football coaches in the atlanta area encouraging or discouraging their football athletes from playing lacrosse in the spring? curious what any HS lacrosse athletes on this site have to say about this subject. (for what it is worth, i played football and lacrosse in HS and in college). what are the football coaches at your HS saying about lacrosse??

[Run-DMC]

Doublestixx.... I haven't seen the white team yet. We (Quiet Riot) played the McIntosh (green) team week one and won in overtime. Last week we played Northview (black i think) and won easily.


TIGHT names.

[Quijibo]

one of the keys to the development of lacrosse is the "acceptance" of lacrosse as a cross-over sport for football athletes. i.e. are football coaches in the atlanta area encouraging or discouraging their football athletes from playing lacrosse in the spring? curious what any HS lacrosse athletes on this site have to say about this subject. (for what it is worth, i played football and lacrosse in HS and in college). what are the football coaches at your HS saying about lacrosse??

Not really, a couple coaches want big time players to run track because it increases their stock as far as recruiting, and when good players get scholarship offers the schools usually discourage them from playing, but other than that it isnt big.

One of the groups that could become a big problem though are the baseball coaches. Lacrosse pulls out of the same group of athletes they do, it is the only spring contact sport, and it's easier to get playing time. On baseball teams outside of the starting 9 you don't get any playing time and many of the 9 are people that play baseball year round. Apparently there is some big time animosity brewing among baseball coaches.

I haven't seen any of the numbers, but I'd imagine that youth baseball teams are already getting a little peeved at the fact that their recruiting base is rapidly diminishing due to the emergence of youth lax teams.

[rhslax25]

the only thing i have against doublestixx is that there are a lot of guys trying to relive their past careers...

[laxdog27]

I don't think that is true for most older guys.

i think more likely it is that some are:
a) coaches associated with the HS teams -- some goaded into playing that haven't played in a while, or want to see and correct what their kids are doing while playing.
b) guys that like competition, but for whatever reason hate the club scene. I've heard there are a lot of good reasons for that.
c) fun. it's an ice hockey beer league, without the beer. it can be fun to just play without caring too much.

The point of the league, in theory, is to mix young athleticism with old guy knowhow.

Personally, I think the teams are pretty evenly matched, and my guess is that most of them would beat the local HS teams precisely because of the mix of youth and experience.

Who did you mean? One of your guys (like the one who chattered and scored a couple of times), or one of ours?

[rhslax25]

True, I'm just saying that tonight we had quite a few players just isoing every time they touched that ball...

[dc8rlax]

as an older guy, i can tell you most of my brethren just want to have fun. it's not the forum for reliving our glory years. most of us have lost a step and can only make up for athletic losses with oxygen-deprived-brains to be in the right position.

also, 2 of your goals were #20 fed inside, not an iso. I think a third was a feed on a cutter too. another was a busted asignment on our part during man down. I don't remember a lot of go to the goal drives by your team.

[JamLax]

Just for the sake of clarity, Decatur didn't exactly make a "turnaround". It's a new program and has made the playoffs both of it's varsity years. I think the coaches do a good job, but I'm biased.

I reserve judgement on Woodward's coach. They made the playoffs, but the Gillman every clear approach is mind boggling. They do run a good zone defense and that is tougher than most people think.


But I feel like they were both significantly a different team from playing them from the 07 to the 08 season. As for the Gilman or any other play in lacrosse, I think teams should use whatever works against the other team and then adjust if necessary so if it works for Woodward to use the Gilman clear then use it.

[laxdog27]

I think that was age more than scheme. last year the team was 50% sophomore. we had 2 seniors I think and 2-3 juniors. It was a young team.

[Beta26]

So Muetzel is gone from McIntosh...imagine what they would have done if they had only lost in the 1st overtime in the state championship game, as opposed to the 2nd.

(rolls eyes)

[BigLaxDummy]

What gives? What happened at McIntosh?

[ATLredgoalie55]

:guns: Beta26

[Beta26]

:puke:ATLredgoalie55

[BigLaxDummy]

Did DoubleStixx Atlanta Elite tryout happen yesterday or get rained out?

[LaxMessenger]

They got it in.

[laxdog27]

would anyone have bet after this season that the first coach "M" to go would be at McIntosh? /stirring_the_pot

[Run-DMC]

So.. final four predictions for next year?

[Big Stick]

Top 4 teams (in no specific order)

Lovett
Milton
McIntosh
The fourth spot will be pretty wide open

[JamLax]

Top 4 teams (in no specific order)

Lovett
Milton
McIntosh
The fourth spot will be pretty wide open

in my opinion, there is absolutely no way mcintosh will repeat back to the final four or anywhere close to that. They lost all there playmakers at the key positions and were a senior heavy team.

[Statman]

Top 4 teams (in no specific order)

Lovett
Milton
McIntosh
The fourth spot will be pretty wide open

Parity is definitely in play in GA, so definitely wide open for top slots. I saw several Sr. heavy teams this past year, Pope comes to mind. Count the Trojans in the mix for '09, as they will be Sr. heavy and only loosing a few key people, they should be back in the hunt after down year.

[BigLaxDummy]

Parity is definitely in play in GA, so definitely wide open for top slots. I saw several Sr. heavy teams this past year, Pope comes to mind. Count the Trojans in the mix for '09, as they will be Sr. heavy and only loosing a few key people, they should be back in the hunt after down year.

Wesleyan is a team to watch......12 Jrs next year, most are on Corsetti's Heroes team this summer.

[Run-DMC]

And the heroes will be it the Blue Hen Challenge this weekend correct?

[BigLaxDummy]

And the heroes will be it the Blue Hen Challenge this weekend correct?

don't know what Blue Hen is, YMCA website sez Warrior Southern Sizzle in two weeks.

[calc1454]

Lovett
Lassiter
Milton
Harrison

All these teams had a lot of juniors on their teams this year. They will all be very good next year. None really lost any that will hurt them a lot. Except for Axford and Fraser.

[Sir-Lax-A-Lot]

Wesleyan is a team to watch......12 Jrs next year, most are on Corsetti's Heroes team this summer.

Wesleyan will not be a contender next year... other than fulton, they are not that strong. There are too many other teams with more than one dominate player

[tigerlax22]

Top 4 teams (in no specific order)

Lovett
Milton
McIntosh
The fourth spot will be pretty wide open

i honestly think milton is going to have a horrible season next year despite the great group of seniors. their best players dont have that much drive and the new head coach is a piece of sh**, its going to kill the program

[farside]

i honestly think milton is going to have a horrible season next year despite the great group of seniors. their best players dont have that much drive and the new head coach is a piece of sh**, its going to kill the program

Coach Dellt he new Milton Coach is a very nice man unless you played for him at Hootch you should not call him a POS. Please remember Coach Ryan the community Coach runs the program and always has. He is one of the most respected coaches in the state and knows a ton about the game.

From what I have seen over the years is Miltons strong teams underachieve and their weaker teams over achieve. Maybe that is coaching or the players just having a bad game in tight games. They finished strong this year however.

Does anyone know who the new Hootch coach is going to be

[Run-DMC]

don't know what Blue Hen is, YMCA website sez Warrior Southern Sizzle in two weeks.

Oh yeah thats the one. What age group are you in?

[galax2009]

Lovett
Milton
Lassiter
Westminster

[LaX 4 LiF3]

McIntosh is bring back like 15-18 seniors and next it will be like 13-15 seniors All i am saying is that it looks like a good year for MHS
Yea thats why i think mcintosh is doing well at. they take all the kids in 8th grade and if there good enough put em on training w/ varsity over the summer. Im gonna be a freshmen at mcintosh next yr and im def. gonna make jv at least cuz my friend talked to the coach and he said he'd make jv no doubtand this is his 1st yr playin at all.Ive been playin since i was 7 and ive got a sniper 70+mph shot + im lefty so idk im hopin v but i doubt it

[Laxnuthin']

i honestly think milton is going to have a horrible season next year despite the great group of seniors. their best players dont have that much drive and the new head coach is a piece of sh**, its going to kill the program

I honestly think that you're out of line here. That type of post shows your immaturity and baselessness. You didn't even try to substantiate why you 'honestly think' that, but please keep comments like those off this forum or they will shut it down. Or, keep making them, and you will be banned from it.

[LaX 4 LiF3]

Mcitosh should be good this yr. The whole school will be pumped to get state title and will hopefully pull through. i hope im gonna be on this yrs team but i doubt it. im gonna be a freshman and will make jv for sure b/c my friend talked to the jv coach and told him that it was his 1st yr and he said that he'd make the jv team no doubt so i'll make it to and hopefully varsity cuz ive been playin since i was 7. but im just shootin for jv this yr to get more playin time

[ATLredgoalie55]

so as i ignore lax 4 lifes posts...

Milton shouldn't have a horrible year like tigerlax said. There is the small chance that Hostetler is too tired of dominating between the pipes since he was a freshman, but not likely. Their defense should be playing better next year since they seemed sort of inexperienced at varsity this year. It should be a fun year for them.

[GAmc9]

:bartmoon: ATLredgoalie55

[Honors the Game]

i honestly think milton is going to have a horrible season next year despite the great group of seniors. their best players dont have that much drive and the new head coach is a piece of sh**, its going to kill the program

Irregardless of your feelings or your experience, this is not an appropriate comment to be making on a public forum. If everything else stays the same, Milton will probably be ok for the next year or so, based on the following:

Milton has been well coached by Ryan, Beach, and the rest of the coaching staff over the past few seasons. Chattahoochee has had a couple of good community coaches during the same period of time, that were never given the opportunity to make a true impact.
The Milton program has seemed to recognize the commitment required by the players (and their parents) to perform at a high level. The Chattahoochee program was not able to successfully motivate the same of its players (and their parents), with the exception of a handful that were self-motivated.
The Milton adminstration made lacrosse a real priority, recognizing its rapid growth and that it fits in very well with the North Fulton demographic. The Chattahoochee administration never really recognized this, even though it was the 2nd biggest fundraiser among the sports programs (to football), preferring to try to compete in football with the Gwinnett schools.

I hope this helps put this situation in the proper perspective.

[tigerlax22]

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[tigerlax22]

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[Beta26]

first of all milton was not motivated by the coaches, and most importantly if milton adminitration made lacrosse a real priority they wouldnt have fired beers over some booster club parent's inability to add and subtract and to put in a football coach to up his salary

Because if anyone has any idea how the inner workings of a program works...it's you....talking on an interwebz message board.

Please stop talking.