Dunking a head in chromer?

[rynolax]

I was just wondering, would it be a bad idea to put a head in chroming liquid? My friend has some and I think it would be cool. It's probably a stupid idea, but give me your opinion.

[MaKiMaKi13]

i think itd be BA to do your facemask heads not so much

[ccslax6]

Do it with a broken or crap head first.

[MaKiMaKi13]

wait on another note where did you friend get this chrome?

[rynolax]

wait on another note where did you friend get this chrome?

I don't know, he came to school one day with it on his thumb(don't ask), and i thought it would be cool to do that to a lax head. If i do it its gonna be on a blaze.

[roycegracie47]

The only way we learn is through experimentation, and you essentially already have a test head ready to go, I say go for it and post the results. If it works you have bragging rights and a shiny head. If it doesn't then aspiring chromers will know to shy away.

[mnlax9]

i dont see why you shouldnt give it a shot

[rynolax]

Ok thanks guys I'll give him the head tomorrow.
For once my friends stupidity paid off. The kid sharpied his X2 once with black and blue marker. WTF?

[MaKiMaKi13]

hmm while your at it mind asking him where he got it?

[WAC_Shoremen]

Cool idea, but it might chip off if I'm thinking of the same stuff. We might have found out how Doc gets his shiny heads.

[rynolax]

hmm while your at it mind asking him where he got it?

Yeah sure no problem man. And I know it will probably chip off, but I just want to try it out.

[EHSLAX12]

you should go get an av8 or something and test on that. i think that is the way dougherty got his heads to be that shiny.

[Wooks]

Doesn't chromer only work with metal? It's entirely possible that I don't what I'm talking about though....


Anyways, I say try it with an Av8 or something bad.

[rynolax]

Do it with a broken or crap head first.

you should go get an av8 or something and test on that. i think that is the way dougherty got his heads to be that shiny.

Doesn't chromer only work with metal? It's entirely possible that I don't what I'm talking about though....


Anyways, I say try it with an Av8 or something bad.

Thats why I'm using an old blaze that I experiment on anyway. And wooks, thats a good point.

[slinkyspine]

Wouldn't it just melt the plastic and not stick? I mean its not a steel head I hope

[rynolax]

Thats a good point slink. It's an old warped p.o.s. head that i don't use, so it's worth a shot. I didn't even pay for it, and it's 4 years old, but whatever.

[THE_1protector]

that would prolly be the coolest thing since sliced bread and peanut butter slices[ its for real google it] i would def use one... if it worked. like everyone else said use a crap head. you might even be able to make designs with it. like dye it red and then tape or hot glue it up then dip it in the chrome. that would look redonkulusly sa weet!! post pics!!!!

[ccslax6]

Try Dipping some mesh and strings with it.

[laxgoalie2011]

The other think that might be cool is trying the same thing with a shaft. For example, splatter some hot glue on an old colored shaft, and then dip it in the chromer. That might turn out really cool. You could have your own version of the gait splatter!

[spenny]

i'm going to guess that the chrome will crack and flake off.

ever seen a chrome bumper after an accident? the metal bends and the chrome cracks. i think thats probably what would happen.

and if you are doing real chroming, the bath liquid is acid (which will eat the head) and is incredibly toxic.

[THE_1protector]

The other think that might be cool is trying the same thing with a shaft. For example, splatter some hot glue on an old colored shaft, and then dip it in the chromer. That might turn out really cool. You could have your own version of the gait splatter!

same idea but drip it down the sides of the pole length wise. it might get a neat dribble pattern

[cali feeder]

Spenny's right. Assuming you're using real chroming fluid, your head will get destroyed, and you might too.

If you're talking about a chrome look-alike or whatnot, then by all means go for it.

If it does indeed work, does anyone know of a sealant that could be used to retain the chrome dye and not let it crack or chip?

[ccslax6]

But he said his friend got it on his finger. So maybe it wasn't real.

[kleinlax-75]

If it does indeed work, does anyone know of a sealant that could be used to retain the chrome dye and not let it crack or chip?if you want the head to be 5 lbs adding chrome to it is already alot of weight

[CSlax06]

Obviously it isnt the same as chroming automotive parts. His friend had it on his finger, thus it wont melt the plastic. Id give it a shot.

[chucktownattack]

Spenny's right. Assuming you're using real chroming fluid, your head will get destroyed, and you might too.

If you're talking about a chrome look-alike or whatnot, then by all means go for it.

If it does indeed work, does anyone know of a sealant that could be used to retain the chrome dye and not let it crack or chip?

I know of a spray paint that doesn't crack or chip, I think it might have a bonding/sealant kind of thing. It works on this plastic flashlight I got...

[snafoo]

Warrior actually did this years ago. It was at the MLL draft the year Sonke got drafted. He was given Attackman of the year (they did awards for top college attack, middie and d) and got a chrome stick. They looked sick as they were crazy shinny, think it was this that lead them to the lazer titanium shaft

[bigdale9]

I know of a spray paint that doesn't crack or chip, I think it might have a bonding/sealant kind of thing. It works on this plastic flashlight I got...

chucktown i think e lacrosse treid that and it didnt work

[KnightsLAXDad]

You cannot "chrome plate" plastic or any other non electrically conductive material. The plating process requires an electrical current to pass through the chroming solution to the part to be plated, which in turn attracts the chrome particles to the part. Since plastic doesn't conduct, it can't be plated. Plastic can be covered using vacuum metalization where, generally, aluminum is evaporated in a vacuum chamber holding the part to be covered. The evaporated aluminum particles condense on the part forming a thin layer on it. Aluminum can be polished to resemble chrome.

[laxplaya6912]

what about the stiffi then KnightsLAXDad? theres a metal in it

[bigdale9]

the metal would be chromed not the head

[Wooks]

You cannot "chrome plate" plastic or any other non electrically conductive material. The plating process requires an electrical current to pass through the chroming solution to the part to be plated, which in turn attracts the chrome particles to the part. Since plastic doesn't conduct, it can't be plated. Plastic can be covered using vacuum metalization where, generally, aluminum is evaporated in a vacuum chamber holding the part to be covered. The evaporated aluminum particles condense on the part forming a thin layer on it. Aluminum can be polished to resemble chrome.

Do you think there is some sort of conductor than can be spray-painted onto the head? Then maybe the chroming might work?

[laxgoaliebm16]

i have a feeling that it is more like chrome spray paint, and if is legit a metal finish or something of that sort, think about the added weight

[CSlax06]

http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXJLV7&P=ML

A good hobby grade paint will be good seeing how they tend to crack less do to the abuse on the RC car lexan bodies.

[rynolax]

AGGGHHHHH!!! :guns: His brother used the rest on a bike!!!! :guns: :hot: I'll see if i can buy some over the weekend.

[bigdale9]

Do you think there is some sort of conductor than can be spray-painted onto the head? Then maybe the chroming might work?

the coating woul be chromed and chip or just peel off
also that sucks a ton ryno

[rynolax]

GAHHHHH!!!! GAHHHHHH!!!!!! I SO ANGRY!!!! CS thanks for the link, i'll try to find the right ca, and i'll see if i can order it.

[KnightsLAXDad]

the metal would be chromed not the head


Exactly, only the exposed Ti would take the chroming.

[textileguru420]

Sand the head thoroughly with 80 grit prior to coating. That should help the coating to stick better.

[laxcanada]

Do you think there is some sort of conductor than can be spray-painted onto the head? Then maybe the chroming might work?

I dont belive there is any coating you could put on a head to truley chrome it
to chrome plate any alloy, it has to be washed in acid, plated with copper, washed in acid again, the dunked in the chrome solution
Im willing to say that the firts acid bath would eat the head in a matter of seconds

[spenny]

You cannot "chrome plate" plastic or any other non electrically conductive material. The plating process requires an electrical current to pass through the chroming solution to the part to be plated, which in turn attracts the chrome particles to the part. Since plastic doesn't conduct, it can't be plated. Plastic can be covered using vacuum metalization where, generally, aluminum is evaporated in a vacuum chamber holding the part to be covered. The evaporated aluminum particles condense on the part forming a thin layer on it. Aluminum can be polished to resemble chrome.

yeah, ummm. i guess physics isnt my strong suit. :)

[laxdefense9]

why not just try gloss? like economy sized nail polish gloss or paint gloss. wouldnt that shine? it might chip, but still.

[EastCoastDeft]

has anyone seen the nike shox with chrome on them? its not actually chrome.....ITS PLASTIC. just for those who are wondering.

[HawkletLax]

has anyone seen the nike shox with chrome on them? its not actually chrome.....ITS PLASTIC. just for those who are wondering.

ya i know thats what i was thinking...but how do we get that? and how does it not chip.

also bro, if your not gonna do it, dont say it. there are countless threads of people saying they are gonna do all these cool ideas but never get around to it

[neuf]

You cannot "chrome plate" plastic or any other non electrically conductive material. The plating process requires an electrical current to pass through the chroming solution to the part to be plated, which in turn attracts the chrome particles to the part. Since plastic doesn't conduct, it can't be plated. Plastic can be covered using vacuum metalization where, generally, aluminum is evaporated in a vacuum chamber holding the part to be covered. The evaporated aluminum particles condense on the part forming a thin layer on it. Aluminum can be polished to resemble chrome.

wouldnt you be able to do this with a stiffi since it has the ti rod in it, which conducts electricity?

[KnightsLAXDad]

wouldnt you be able to do this with a stiffi since it has the ti rod in it, which conducts electricity?

Basic physics, the plastic doesn't. The dissolved chrome is only attracted to the parts that have the opposite charge. Since plastic doesn't conduct electricity, the chrome is not attracted to it. The Ti rod perhaps, but no the plastic parts.

[dodgerlax34]

come on i want to see this...
also i wonder about the gold looking chrome on a head like a trophy maybe go to a trophy shop and ask if they can do it for me

[THE_1protector]

come on i want to see this...
also i wonder about the gold looking chrome on a head like a trophy maybe go to a trophy shop and ask if they can do it for me

yea! trophys are plasitc with some sort of metallic coating. if you have ever had on break on you, you see that it is plastic under the gold plating. so this is totally possible to do on a lax head. you just need to find the right stuff to do it with.

infact after looking around on ask.com i found this site.... www.redspot.com that coats anything with everything.

[rynolax]

yea! trophys are plasitc with some sort of metallic coating. if you have ever had on break on you, you see that it is plastic under the gold plating. so this is totally possible to do on a lax head. you just need to find the right stuff to do it with.

infact after looking around on ask.com i found this site.... www.redspot.com that coats anything with everything.

Can you order from that site? Guys, i've been really busy lately, and I'm still looking. But The_1protector has a good site here.

[rynolax]

NO!!!!!!!!! you can't order from there without minimum quantities.:hot:

[OldPtboBoy]

Trophies peel like a mother you know whatever after years of sitting and doing nothing in humid or improper temperatures. It's a paint coat. A lacrosse head wouldn't last a period.

[UNCLax12]

That's false, there are some coatings which companies use on base trophies which enables the coating to not deteriorate.

Also, ryno when are you gonna actually do it... I feel like you weren't gonna do it in the first place, but if you don't I will probably end up doing it to a crappy AV8.

[rynolax]

That's false, there are some coatings which companies use on base trophies which enables the coating to not deteriorate.

Also, ryno when are you gonna actually do it... I feel like you weren't gonna do it in the first place, but if you don't I will probably end up doing it to a crappy AV8.

I said, my friend ran out of the stuff that Iwas gonna do it with, and he has no idea how e got it in the first place. So I'm looking for something to do it with. If you want to do it, be my guest.

[UNCLax12]

To everyone who thinks chroming plastic is impossible, it's not... just simple rules of metalizing... I was google searching and found that someone actually chromed a bottle of Sunny D.

http://www.chromeservices.com/images/sunny_d_bottle-175b.jpg

[KnightsLAXDad]

If you read back a few posts, it is not impossible to put a metal coat on plastic, but it is a very different process than how metal parts are chromed. Metal parts are chromed (or other types of metal) plated by "electroplating" which requires that the part to be plated conduct electricity, which plastic clearly does not. Plastic pieces such as trophies and Sunny D bottles are coated using vacuum plating or vapor deposition. Similar end results, two very different processes.

[UNCLax12]

Looks to me like if anyone finds out how to do this effectively and enable it so it is durable, they might be making a pretty penny.

[247atak]

If you paint a head it will alter the strength of the head,because of the solvents used in the paint.It will break down the head and make it weak.Also you woould need a flex agent put into the paint for flexibilityLike a plastic bumper on a car.Which means more solvents eating away at your head.The only use for your head would be a cute little trophy.

[rynolax]

HERE IS THE LINK TO CHROME PAINT (http://www.kustomrides.com/kustom/chrome-paints/)!!! Order it if you want, because I can't.

[THE_1protector]

my eclipse. im going to use spray chromer for plastic that you can get at home depot.

should i clean off all the skid marks from the head or dont worry about them?

[KnightsLAXDad]

If you are going to try chrome paint (which won't really come out like real chrome, but anyways....) don't try spraying directly to the plastic. Use a plastic primer first or else it will never stick. Like any other paint job, clean the piece as thoroughly as possible first.

[UVALAXR2011]

i tryed that plastic spray paint...works. but you gotta wait a while (day or 2) to put a second coat on if you need it.

[THE_1protector]

If you are going to try chrome paint (which won't really come out like real chrome, but anyways....) don't try spraying directly to the plastic. Use a plastic primer first or else it will never stick. Like any other paint job, clean the piece as thoroughly as possible first.

im actually going to buy this Krylon paint that is for plastic. its wat my mom says to use at least, cause im not trying to buy another can just to prime it with and idk how many more sticks ill be spraying.

[OutlawLax085]

Basic physics, the plastic doesn't. The dissolved chrome is only attracted to the parts that have the opposite charge. Since plastic doesn't conduct electricity, the chrome is not attracted to it. The Ti rod perhaps, but no the plastic parts.


NERD (now now don't warn me its from the office)
(hes not a nerd he just pays attention in school)

[KnightsLAXDad]

NERD (now now don't warn me its from the office)
(hes not a nerd he just pays attention in school)

While I may be, I am actually a 40 year old electrical engineer.:OMG:

[NBCLAX23]

Electrosizing is only one way to crome, finding an agri grade paint and a sealent might work.adding any metal to the head to use the other way would be useless because the flexiblity would go to the dogs and its wiehgt would sky rocket. remember its METAL

[KnightsLAXDad]

This is all one big tease. Come post pics already.

Last post saying "do it" or "we're waiting" or the whole thread gets shut down. If they do it I'm sure they'll post the results. Use PMs if you are impatient.

KLD

[MainLax28]

I found a site that sells paint that is real chrome, like it actually has metal in the paint. It is like 120.00 for the kit though, so that is a little expensive, but it may be worth it if you could do a couple heads. I have e-mailed the company, and am currently waiting for a response. hopefully they will get back to me.

[ccslax6]

Okay I actually got the paint and did it, but for the first time this month it started raining right after I finished. Then I tried taking pictures but my camera ran out of battery after four shots.
Anyway, here is a link: http://s204.photobucket.com/albums/bb243/ccslax6/?action=view&current=07280001.jpg
The pictures don't do the head justice. It looks really awesome in real life, but that didn't translate through the camera lense.
I took four pictures but some had flash and some didn't. I'll try to get more batteries and if anyone has suggestions on how to take better pictures, I'd like to hear them.

[ReLaxin 13]

Hit it against some stuff to see if it stays on.

[NBCLAX23]

put up a black sheet as a backround

[oviedolax]

that prizma coat stuff would look awesome. heres a link:
http://www.kustomrides.com/supplies/chrome-paint-full-kits.html

[Lax4life528]

that looks sick man

[bigdale9]

does the chrome paint add extra wieght? also did you use the paint from the link that ryno posted?

[CSlax06]

Is that bubbles in the scoop? Did you lightly sand the head before painting?

[Valley21lax]

finally, hey i just may try this now that some one has been the guinea pig!

[rynolax]

Nice man. How do you think it will hold up? (the head and paint)

[bigdale9]

Is that bubbles in the scoop? Did you lightly sand the head before painting?

it looks like rain, he said it was raining when he took the pics

[Atkman9]

whoa looks sick, i might dip everything i own in chromer!!!!

[Lax4Midi]

how much heavier is it than before?

[FamousAmos]

Okay I actually got the paint and did it, but for the first time this month it started raining right after I finished. Then I tried taking pictures but my camera ran out of battery after four shots.
Anyway, here is a link: http://s204.photobucket.com/albums/bb243/ccslax6/?action=view&current=07280001.jpg
The pictures don't do the head justice. It looks really awesome in real life, but that didn't translate through the camera lense.
I took four pictures but some had flash and some didn't. I'll try to get more batteries and if anyone has suggestions on how to take better pictures, I'd like to hear them.

woah, imagine a chromed out head with grey jima mesh, on a Ti shaft.....:bye:

[slinkyspine]

woah, imagine a chromed out head with grey jima mesh, on a Ti shaft.....:bye:

Nah, he should do black with silver shooters/string. It would contrast better

[pvlax02]

you just used the spray-can chromer right?

[cheesehead]

shiny:yumyum:
but seriously that's pretty sick:worship: